Engine Oil Reviews/Technical talk v2, Everything Automotive lubricants/fluids
Engine Oil Reviews/Technical talk v2, Everything Automotive lubricants/fluids
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Feb 8 2015, 11:14 PM
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Can we use engine oil as a substitute for manual transmission fluid, say 75W90 API GL-4?
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Feb 9 2015, 04:50 AM
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Feb 9 2015, 05:02 AM
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Back to my question....
Can we use engine oil as a substitute for manual transmission fluid, say 75W90 API GL-4? http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=176856 |
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Feb 9 2015, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(izso @ Feb 9 2015, 09:28 AM) You're not comparing apple with apple. You're talking about putting engine oil into a gearbox. That's like saying can I use engine oil for cooking. Sure you can. It'll destroy the food, the taste will be terrible and you'll probably spoil your pans. Did you even bother to read this?If you had bothered to read up on engine oils, gearbox oils and all, the only thing they have in similarity is the base oil. Additives are different, detergents are different, friction modifiers are different, etc. But you're welcome to try. Just make sure you share your findings here once you destroy a synchro or two. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=176856 |
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Feb 9 2015, 10:02 AM
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Using the appropriate engine oil of the correct viscosity (typically 5W30 or 10W30) is not as bad as using the wrong API GLx manual transmission fluid.
I quote here an extract of Wikipedia...... "Most lubricants for manual gearboxes and differentials are hypoid gear oils. These contain extreme pressure (EP) additives and antiwear additives to cope with the sliding action of hypoid bevel gears. EP additives which contain phosphorous/sulfurous compounds are corrosive to yellow metals such as the copper and/or brass used in bushings and synchronizers; the GL1 class of gear oils does not contain any EP additives and thus finds use in applications which contain parts made of yellow metals. GL-5 is not necessarily backward-compatible in synchro-mesh transmissions which are designed for a GL-4 oil: GL-5 has a lower coefficient of friction due to the higher concentration of EP additives over GL-4, and thus synchros can not engage as effectively. Also, transmissions which explicitly call for GL-4 oil may have been designed around this lower concentration of EP additives and thus may contain yellow metal parts which GL-5 will corrode." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_oil |
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Feb 9 2015, 11:59 AM
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Would you use 5W30 viscosity oil if your manual says to use 10W30?
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Feb 9 2015, 12:20 PM
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My car manual says to use 2.15 litres of genuine MTF with specification 75W90 API GL-4.
What brand and part number of MTF is suitable to use as replacement as I don't know what the previous owner used. It is about time to change the MTF. |
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Feb 9 2015, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Feb 9 2015, 12:38 PM) Redline MT90 (Fully Syn), RM55 per quart (948mL) Thanks!Or, PetroCanada Traxon XL (Semi Syn), RM130 for 4liter. I shall take 3 litres of Redline MT90 then. Are you sure it is API GL-4 certified and not a GL-5? I don't want the brass synchros in my MT to be damaged by the excessive sulphur/phosphorous EP additives in a GL-5 spec-ed fluid. |
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Feb 9 2015, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2015, 01:11 PM) that's the easiest spec you can find, any petrol station carries it. I can't even find a bottle of MTF at the Shell and Petronas stations near my place, don't say whether the specs are correct first.additionally you can just go with your manufacturer/brand own fluid. My manufacturer/brand own fluid is Hyundai Genuine. Don't tell me I have to go back to an authorised service centre for a simple change of MTF. |
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Feb 9 2015, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2015, 01:26 PM) find at spare part shop No need to spoonfeed.for petrol stations: http://www.shell.com.my/products-services/...nge/spirax.html http://www.mymesra.com.my/Transmission_and_Gear-@-GL-4.aspx can't expect everyone to spoonfeed everything right? I can do it myself. I just went to the petrol stations this morning to find the MTF. None available. |
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Feb 9 2015, 02:05 PM
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