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post Aug 5 2014, 11:42 AM, updated 12y ago

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Dump your stuff here moving on, since got so many threads on this. Or if you feel so strongly u can try your luck ask seven for separate forum section. Which i doubt you will get, else we'll need for a new forum section for each world issue.

Dipersilakan sembang di sini

but take note, racism etc will still be acted upon. This does not give you a green light for generalisation / racism

Temporarily Pinned as short term solution till can think of something better

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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 12:41 PM)
Since no one is taking the initiative, I'm gonna start my engine:

I believe we shouldn't support anyone involved in Gaza conflict. They claim their goal is for eventual peace, yet they are all waist deep in violence.

Besides, what can we Malaysians really do for them? Yes, Malaysia sent troops to Gaza for humanitarian aid, but for political reasons and what not, that's all we can do. We can't stop the conflict, only they themselves can do that.
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Let's just drop one nuke there. Guaranteed peace.
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 12:41 PM)
Since no one is taking the initiative, I'm gonna start my engine:

I believe we shouldn't support anyone involved in Gaza conflict. They claim their goal is for eventual peace, yet they are all waist deep in violence.

Besides, what can we Malaysians really do for them? Yes, Malaysia sent troops to Gaza for humanitarian aid, but for political reasons and what not, that's all we can do. We can't stop the conflict, only they themselves can do that.
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y use dupe?

account got banhammer?

want to start engine oso lazy when seeing dupe account
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 12:50 PM)
That's not a solution, that's just running away from existing issue. Real life doesn't work like games, where you can reset and start with a clean slate.

Besides, it'll be a precedence, to fight fire with fire. Don't like the enemy? Wipe everyone clean.
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then what do u suggest? laugh.gif another move Israel to US?
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 12:55 PM)
No. That's the same as running away.

What we need is someone to turn their cheek. To accept their loss in grace, whether it's life or land loss. Fighting doesn't stop unless one stops fighting. Even better, they both should recognize the irony of their pursuit, and drop this once and for all.
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their war haven stopped since BC? icon_idea.gif why stop now? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 12:50 PM)
That's not a solution, that's just running away from existing issue. Real life doesn't work like games, where you can reset and start with a clean slate.

Besides, it'll be a precedence, to fight fire with fire. Don't like the enemy? Wipe everyone clean.
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A decisive and extreme action is required to push through a solution.

When neither sides agrees to a common solution and refuse to reach a compromise, then only the stronger one will take a decisive and extreme action for the benefit of themselves. When this happen, the stronger one are called a bully and the weak one play victim.

Since neither one refuse to back down, then we eliminate the source of contention for both, thus nullifying the reason of their fights. When 2 brothers fight over a toy and refused to share, what does parents do? They take away the toy until both brothers come to an agreement to share, or to forgo the toy totally and play another toy.

Same thing in this conflict, nuke the land, make it unhabitable. Nobody wants to live in a wasteland. Taadaa, no more land grabbing, no more rockets.
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"Gaza dumping ground,take a dump here"

wow so much for creating awareness

nice one TS will share this info
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:05 PM)
I don't know. I'm not familiar with teachings of their religion, so I can't just say "because it's a religion of peace so you should stop killing".

But I'm deeply troubled by the idea that, even if they know their children will get bombed to pieces when their enemy retaliates, they still want to do it.
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they have this "for a greater purpose" idea icon_idea.gif so i guess anything else wouldn't matter
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:13 PM)
What is the "greater purpose"? What's greater than human lives?
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what happened??? what i missed?
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dumping? yea...too many ppl much too constipated because instead of using brain for processing data stores too much undigested sheet down there instead...a big dump would be refreshing...owai..
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:20 PM)
That much we already know. But what is it that they're looking for? Peace? If so, wouldn't it be easier to just drop your hatred and hug your "enemies"?

This is precisely why I call all camps involved in Gaza conflict stupid. There won't be any fighting if no one wants to fight.
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QUOTE(beelzebob13 @ Aug 5 2014, 01:22 PM)
what happened??? what i missed?
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dumping? yea...too many ppl much too constipated because instead of using brain for processing data stores too much undigested sheet down there instead...a big dump would be refreshing...owai..
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yes,so much lau sai,admins did some operasi basuh tandas n a lot of thread went MH370
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:31 PM)
Indeed.

But let's look at this from another vantage point. What will Israel gain from this conflict?
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less rocket fired into Israel,no need buy extra batteries for Iron dome,civilian selamat laugh.gif
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just move israel to US. settled. everyone happy.
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anything involve killing people should be stop...like Israel they were not only targetting adult only but include children too...what they did just to make sure it will be less Gaza people who will fight for their land in the future by killed their children... to all Muslims especially we should unite and give support to our brothers at Gaza either by boycotting and crush Israel economy so they will stop killing and destroy Palestine

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QUOTE(chrommed @ Aug 5 2014, 01:41 PM)
just move israel to US. settled. everyone happy.
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I think this is an excellent move by the people in charge
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btw, this will clear space up for the more important things, e.g epl and champions league. Woohooo
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 5 2014, 01:43 PM)
anything involve killing people should be stop...like Israel they were not only targetting adult only but include children too...what they did just to make sure it will be less Gaza people who will fight for their land in the future by killed their children... to all Muslims especially we should unite and give support to our brothers at Gaza either by boycotting and crush Israel economy so they will stop killing and destroy Palestine
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before u even crush their economy,u probably end up making your fellow Muslims jobless icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Aug 5 2014, 01:03 PM)
A decisive and extreme action is required to push through a solution.

When neither sides agrees to a common solution and refuse to reach a compromise, then only the stronger one will take a decisive and extreme action for the benefit of themselves. When this happen, the stronger one are called a bully and the weak one play victim.

Since neither one refuse to back down, then we eliminate the source of contention for both, thus nullifying the reason of their fights. When 2 brothers fight over a toy and refused to share, what does parents do? They take away the toy until both brothers come to an agreement to share, or to forgo the toy totally and play another toy.

Same thing in this conflict, nuke the land, make it unhabitable. Nobody wants to live in a wasteland. Taadaa, no more land grabbing, no more rockets.
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Hnngggg the logic is sound in this one tongue.gif
Well nuking the land would be a bit extreme though sweat.gif

I don't think Israel is going anywhere and for sure they are not giving west Jerusalem back after the 1967 war...
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:45 PM)
That's assuming Israel wants to move, or Hamas will cease all act of violence if they move.

Since one isn't willing to move and the other isn't likely to stop fighting, what's your suggestion in ending the conflict?
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Aug 5 2014, 01:52 PM)
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:47 PM)
Boycotting doesn't work, despite what the experts in economy says.

Just look at McDonalds Malaysia. Suppose all Malaysians boycott their business, and McDonalds Malaysia goes under overnight. Whose economy suffers most?
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if MCD Malaysia crush it wont give a big impact to our economy...if they dont want to crash / bankrupt then dont channeled their money to Israel...how much we can do either than crush the israel economy...if im brave enough i want to send my self to Gaza and fight with them...but the thing is im not brave enough...so i can show my support by boycotting...

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 5 2014, 01:52 PM)
before u even crush their economy,u probably end up making your fellow Muslims jobless icon_idea.gif
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i do agree many Muslims will lose their job because of this but this is the only way we can do...i always know boycotting will make other people suffer but for the sake of our brother from continuous killing by Israel this boycotting should be done...
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 5 2014, 01:58 PM)
i do agree many Muslims will lose their job because of this but this is the only way we can do...i always know boycotting will make other people suffer but for the sake of our brother from continuous killing by Israel this boycotting should be done...
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 5 2014, 01:58 PM)
i do agree many Muslims will lose their job because of this but this is the only way we can do...i always know boycotting will make other people suffer but for the sake of our brother from continuous killing by Israel this boycotting should be done...
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In a separate, but similar matter closer to home, the same thing can be said about letting Proton die.

Although many will lose their job and will make *some* pipu suffer, but for the sake of *ALL* rakyat of malaysia from getting their wallet slaughtered by paying exhorbitant taxes and duties for imported vehicles, this boycotting of proton should be done.
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Aug 5 2014, 02:03 PM)
In a separate, but similar matter closer to home, the same thing can be said about letting Proton die.

Although many will lose their job and will make *some* pipu suffer, but for the sake of *ALL* rakyat of malaysia from getting their wallet slaughtered by paying exhorbitant taxes and duties for imported vehicles, this boycotting of proton should be done.
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Welcome back from your well-deserved break. I hope all of you had a very restful celebration with your loved ones.

Following the current Gaza conflict, some of you may have heard and asked by your contacts about the misguided calls on social media to take drastic actions against multinational companies, including Tesco.

Whilst we are saddened by the effects of the conflict, let me assure you that our business is continuing as usual. We are closely monitoring the situation however in the meantime I seek your support to continue ensuring and providing your usual great service to all our customers.

To ensure that we are consistent in our approach, I would like to share some key facts about our business in Malaysia to help you answer the queries at your end.

1) Tesco Malaysia is a joint-venture company between Tesco PLC and Sime Darby Berhad, where Sime Darby holds 30% shares in our business in Malaysia. Tesco is public listed and is owned by shareholders from all over the world
2) Tesco Malaysia DOES NOT source for any of its products from Israel or the occupied West Bank
3) Tesco Malaysia DOES NOT fund or sponsor any political campaign, violence or oppression at any parts of the world

If you are in any doubt or require assistance, please direct your questions to Corporate Affairs team.

This is a challenging time for all of us and I urge all of you to stand together as one team and avoid spreading unsupported information via social media portals.

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QUOTE(lone_wolf @ Aug 5 2014, 02:21 PM)
Orang bodoh jer boikot2 ni
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CEO company sampai keluar statement, nampak sangat boikot itu berkesan
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QUOTE(lone_wolf @ Aug 5 2014, 02:21 PM)
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Thread merged. please post here moving forward
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So now the jews park along Gaza for 8 day truce with Hamas.

Wonder until when can Hamas tahan without lobbing one over??
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So now the jews park along Gaza for 8 day truce with Hamas.

Wonder until when can Hamas tahan without lobbing one over??
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QUOTE(petirbuas @ Aug 5 2014, 02:22 PM)
CEO company sampai keluar statement, nampak sangat boikot itu berkesan
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Public statement takkan suruh macai cleaner & tea lady yg buat kot?
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CEO company sampai keluar statement, nampak sangat boikot itu berkesan
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Tak berkesan pun tongue.gif

CEO bagi statement takut semua HQ staff yang risau dengan masa depan diorg dengan TESCO
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 01:45 PM)
That's assuming Israel wants to move, or Hamas will cease all act of violence if they move.

Since one isn't willing to move and the other isn't likely to stop fighting, what's your suggestion in ending the conflict?
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u just quoted my suggestion. whats your suggestion?
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Aug 5 2014, 02:29 PM)
Public statement takkan suruh macai cleaner & tea lady yg buat kot?
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Usually company will just make general PR statement

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Tak berkesan pun  tongue.gif

CEO bagi statement takut semua HQ staff yang risau dengan masa depan diorg dengan TESCO
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QUOTE(Joyce Tedoen @ Aug 5 2014, 02:44 PM)
Turn a cheek.

Israel should just hold their ground and focus on defending. Iron Dome was a good start.
Hamas should just accept Israel is not going to butt off going to take over the country. Fight for better causes like their children's education, instead of spending money on mortars or rockets. Just go die somewhere, or move away, this is Israel country now.

Not much of a solution, I know, since it requires a huge amount of humility.
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nice move editing the thread title

the original title was a bit tasteless heh
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QUOTE(vandar59 @ Aug 5 2014, 03:07 PM)
nice move editing the thread title

the original title was a bit tasteless heh
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you are right. it was a bit tasteless in hindsight. However it was not in relation to the issue, but the regarding to the volume of reports and spam of threads of similar nature. This error has since been corrected
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Aug 5 2014, 03:09 PM)
you are right. it was a bit tasteless in hindsight. However it was not in relation to the issue, but the regarding to the volume of reports and spam of threads of similar nature. This error has since been corrected
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should also include no more MCD thread,the boikot propaganda is just annoying wink.gif
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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 5 2014, 03:12 PM)
should also include no more MCD thread,the boikot propaganda is just annoying  wink.gif
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yea all related goes here including that. i thought that was understood. if u see such new threads do help us help u by reporting, so we can merge it here. its consolidated, but at least its pinned, so should sorta please all parties. the best middle ground i can think of where all parties get a bit of something instead of outright ban due to spam. trial run see how it goes
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QUOTE(drowning @ Aug 5 2014, 02:28 PM)
So now the jews park along Gaza for 8 day truce with Hamas.

Wonder until when can Hamas zionist tahan without lobbing one over??
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QUOTE(chrommed @ Aug 5 2014, 02:49 PM)
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why always use this map one

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Aug 5 2014, 03:16 PM)
why always use this map one

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Nice. It was Ottoman to begin with. The British conquered it. They then decided to give it to the Jews and Transjordan and help set up some arab country (I think it was Saudi Arabia) in return for their help (in forming a Jewish Homeland) by fighting against the Ottomans. It was never the "Palestinians'". As the saying goes, the Strong Prosper. Might is Right. Yada yada.
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I'm sick of that map. Whenever I we try to reason anything this map gets shoved int the face. Finally got anothrr map of different opinion.
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Great. Now no need to see gaza every single freaking day. Instead can open ISIS every day
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Aug 5 2014, 04:18 PM)
Great. Now no need to see gaza every single freaking day. Instead can open ISIS every day
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I neutral. Must ask defender of gaza to so the same tongue.gif since they so free
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Aug 5 2014, 04:22 PM)
I neutral. Must ask defender of gaza to so the same tongue.gif since they so free
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Aug 5 2014, 04:22 PM)
I neutral. Must ask defender of gaza to so the same tongue.gif since they so free
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Biarlah yahudi2 /k/tard bangkang our causes just because they thought its all about religions, padahal its involving humanity too.

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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Aug 5 2014, 04:38 PM)
Biarlah yahudi2 /k/tard bangkang our causes just because they thought its all about religions, padahal its involving humanity too.
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Biarlah yahudi2 /k/tard bangkang our causes just because they thought its all about religions, padahal its involving humanity too.
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QUOTE(drowning @ Aug 5 2014, 04:58 PM)
Waah local terrorist penuh semangat ..... wonder when are they going to go there??
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Some ppl say this is not issue of religion and that its an issue on humanity. I ask you this. If this ppl r not your "brothers" will you all have gave the same amount of shit? Ironically the answer to that is a truthful no. People will generally give a shit if it were the main headline. But if it were just another news in the newspaper u will just flip thru as if nothing happen. Human rights violation like this is happening in Africa, Eastern Europe and South America almost daily and no one bats an eye. So no. Its hard for us the "yahudi" to believe that this is about humanity. Because your support for them did not begun because coz of that. It just conveniently become about that later on in the conflict.

But dont feel bad. You are not alone. I can say probably 70% of the world population sees the world the same way. They only give a crap about something that they are apart of. Its just human.

So stop sitting on your high horse and call ppl that dont agree with you names. It just make us look down on your cause with more cynicism.

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 5 2014, 01:58 PM)
i do agree many Muslims will lose their job because of this but this is the only way we can do...i always know boycotting will make other people suffer but for the sake of our brother from continuous killing by Israel this boycotting should be done...
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actually there is a way.

that Malaysia and other secular countries encourage peace talk and promote secularism among them. Kinda like a middle man between 2 fighting families

but it couldn't be done anymore since Malaysian over-reacting on this issue.
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Some ppl say this is not issue of religion and that its an issue on humanity. I ask you this. If this ppl r not your "brothers" will you all have gave the same amount of shit? Ironically the answer to that is a truthful no. People will generally give a shit if it were the main headline. But if it were just another news in the newspaper u will just flip thru as if nothing happen. Human rights violation like this is happening in Africa, Eastern Europe and South America almost daily and no one bats an eye. So no. Its hard for us the "yahudi" to believe that this is about humanity. Because your support for them did not begun because coz of that. It just conveniently become about that later on in the conflict.

But dont feel bad. You are not alone. I can say probably 70% of the world population sees the world the same way. They only give a crap about something that they are apart of. Its just human.

So stop sitting on your high horse and call ppl that dont agree with you names. It just make us look down on your cause with more cynicism.
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so u only kesah because ppl u hate kesah? lel.. tell that to mandela
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1 think really can't understand -

you guys said it was humanity, but why no against ISIS? Bakol Haram? They killed a lot too. Why not Suluk? They invade OUR COUNTRY. And this problem STILL EXIST. Why not concern about local security 1st? Why not solve our own problem 1st?

PUBLIC TRANSPORT
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I do always no comment toward to those who protest. But when come to boycotting, I really have no idea. Whats the point, do you think having impact on their business? Which sources said that they give fund to the wrong one? They have million of franchise around the globe. Why harming peoples' business while you can't actually make any impact while let others see the immaturity in human....
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As long as nobody seriously advocating boycott FB then all the boycott thing is just plain rubbish.

Spreading awareness my A. We have LYN and other similar sites to spread awareness. You don't have to depend on FB hypocrites.
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so u only kesah because ppl u hate kesah? lel.. tell that to mandela
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Hahaha. Ya. The very ironic thing is Sabah is like Palestine land too given to Israel (Malaysia) which Sulu (Palestine) demands back. If you support Palestinian then you must also support Sulu getting back their land. Even more ironic is that both land we own by the Brits before they handover...
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1 think really can't understand -

you guys said it was humanity, but why no against ISIS? Bakol Haram? They killed a lot too. Why not Suluk? They invade OUR COUNTRY. And this problem STILL EXIST. Why not concern about local security 1st? Why not solve our own problem 1st?

PUBLIC TRANSPORT
HAZE
WATER CRISIS
SABAH SECURITY CRISIS

I do always no comment toward to those who protest. But when come to boycotting, I really have no idea. Whats the point, do you think having impact on their business? Which sources said that they give fund to the wrong one? They have million of franchise around the globe. Why harming peoples' business while you can't actually make any impact while let others see the immaturity in human....
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im also like u once...i think boycotting is meaningless and inhuman because many will be jobless if the company is not making profit anymore...but like u said did we know that there is no money channeled to israel? this mcd business run in franchisee so the source of company own by israel...automatically they will channeled those money either they want or not...they cant turn over the system...same like other products...like issue on astro there is a statement they are using a services own by israel company AMDAC if not mistaken to upgrade their service...many muslims were protest so that astro stop to use service by israel company or they will boycotting the astro too...this boycotting might looks harsh and terrible but the one who died in Gaza are all our muslims brother...we here just lose our job no need to spill our own blood or facing death because of israel...

p/s : boycotting doesnt means we need to do some rally in front of the company it is enough just not to go to their company anymore...like in this mcd case if u want to boycott dont make rally in front of the mcd, just dont eat there anymore is enough...and ask your friend not to go too...but still dont use force if other people dun want to boycott...it must be done on their free will...

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 5 2014, 05:29 PM)
1 think really can't understand -

you guys said it was humanity, but why no against ISIS? Bakol Haram? They killed a lot too. Why not Suluk? They invade OUR COUNTRY. And this problem STILL EXIST. Why not concern about local security 1st? Why not solve our own problem 1st?

PUBLIC TRANSPORT
HAZE
WATER CRISIS
SABAH SECURITY CRISIS

I do always no comment toward to those who protest. But when come to boycotting, I really have no idea. Whats the point, do you think having impact on their business? Which sources said that they give fund to the wrong one? They have million of franchise around the globe. Why harming peoples' business while you can't actually make any impact while let others see the immaturity in human....
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really bosan with "why no condemn this.." "why no condemn that".. bosan ler... bosan.... ko tak bosan ke tanya soalan yang sama?

Does it mean in order for you to support whatever sh*t you want, you need to support other world issues also?

Why don't you condemn Himpunan Hijau because they only fight on Lynas issue but put aside other environmental issue like illegal logging, buang sampah sepah-sepah and so on? Bunch of hypocrite are they is it?

You have right to choose your cause to suppose, same goes to those who support Hamas / Palestine, they want to scream out loud for Palestine only ke apa ke then let them be.

If you don't like then leave this cause to them.

Just To satisfy your brain, We condemn Assad, Boko Haram and whatever killings happen in the world.

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im also like u once...i think boycotting is meaningless and inhuman because many will be jobless if the company is not making profit anymore...but like u said did we know that there is no money channeled to israel? this mcd business run in franchisee so the source of company own by israel...automatically they will channeled those money either they want or not...they cant turn over the system...same like other products...like issue on astro there is a statement they are using a services own by israel company AMDAC if not mistaken to upgrade their service...many muslims were protest so that astro stop to use service by israel company or they will boycotting the astro too...this boycotting might looks harsh and terrible but the one who died in Gaza are all our muslims brother...we here just lose our job no need to spit our own blood or facing death because of israel...
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so... Malaysians' lives < Palestinians because they don't spill any blood lah

must have malaysians homeless, suicide and kena along tetak mati first then only care lah

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meanwhile see the japan support to israel rally lel
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 5 2014, 05:42 PM)
im also like u once...i think boycotting is meaningless and inhuman because many will be jobless if the company is not making profit anymore...but like u said did we know that there is no money channeled to israel? this mcd business run in franchisee so the source of company own by israel...automatically they will channeled those money either they want or not...they cant turn over the system...same like other products...like issue on astro there is a statement they are using a services own by israel company AMDAC if not mistaken to upgrade their service...many muslims were protest so that astro stop to use service by israel company or they will boycotting the astro too...this boycotting might looks harsh and terrible but the one who died in Gaza are all our muslims brother...we here just lose our job no need to spit our own blood or facing death because of israel...
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I am really impressed, with your searching skill, until the fate of profits gained also in hand. A common private investigator can't do this.
the world is all about survival of the fittest, I rather take good care of our own first, esp the crime rate in Malaysia is getting higher and higher, as well as water crisis is selangor. And why not the intruder of sabah? Do you aware of how many lives had lost due to that. Do you remember March 2013? Do you know because of the insecure of the coastal area, how many tourists get kidnapped? And all that involves MALAYSIANS. The live of commando, lives of troops. MALAYSIA politics. MALAYSIA corruption issues. PKFZ? Using apartment to rear cow? Not paying tax? Billions of debt? Inflation rate? Why not we do our part to make our country, MALAYSIA to become a better country. I am not against any who want protest, but lets solve our country problem first. Shall we
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 5 2014, 05:57 PM)
I am really impressed, with your searching skill, until the fate of profits gained also in hand. A common private investigator can't do this.
the world is all about survival of the fittest, I rather take good care of our own first, esp the crime rate in Malaysia is getting higher and higher, as well as water crisis is selangor. And why not the intruder of sabah? Do you aware of how many lives had lost due to that. Do you remember March 2013? Do you know because of the insecure of the coastal area, how many tourists get kidnapped? And all that involves MALAYSIANS. The live of commando, lives of troops. MALAYSIA politics. MALAYSIA corruption issues. PKFZ? Using apartment to rear cow? Not paying tax? Billions of debt? Inflation rate? Why not we do our part to make our country, MALAYSIA to become a better country. I am not against any who want protest, but lets solve our country problem first. Shall we
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i dont know you irl, but what have you done with regards to the issues you brought up above?
honestly i have done nothing blush.gif
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im also like u once...i think boycotting is meaningless and inhuman because many will be jobless if the company is not making profit anymore...but like u said did we know that there is no money channeled to israel? this mcd business run in franchisee so the source of company own by israel...automatically they will channeled those money either they want or not...they cant turn over the system...same like other products...like issue on astro there is a statement they are using a services own by israel company AMDAC if not mistaken to upgrade their service...many muslims were protest so that astro stop to use service by israel company or they will boycotting the astro too...this boycotting might looks harsh and terrible but the one who died in Gaza are all our muslims brother...we here just lose our job no need to spill our own blood or facing death because of israel...

p/s :  boycotting doesnt means we need to do some rally in front of the company it is enough just not to go to their company anymore...like in this mcd case if u want to boycott dont make rally in front of the mcd, just dont eat there anymore is enough...and ask your friend not to go too...but still dont use force if other people dun want to boycott...it must be done on their free will...
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Your example is bad. Astro uses an external service which they can discontinue. They did this i believe not because they are afraid people stop using their service but more for a public outlook purpose and also they still need to do business with other companies and removing this little thorn would make their work much easier without the messy politic involve.

But McD doesnt have this option. U wan them to renounce their McD ties and rename it to Brothers Burger while taking supplies from Ramli burger? Or u just happier they close down shop and depriving other Malaysian of McD?

The point is end game. What is your end game? Will the president of mcd say omg msia sales down.. i better get on the phone with israel president ask him to stop, else tomoro my chic nugget cannot sell...

So in other words, it is meaningless.
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My 2 cents .

Gaza is innocent. Hamas isnt.

Israel is innocent. They have a bigger gun, it's not their fault they are forced to use it.


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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Aug 5 2014, 05:50 PM)
really bosan with "why no condemn this.." "why no condemn that".. bosan ler... bosan.... ko tak bosan ke tanya soalan yang sama?

Does it mean in order for you to support whatever sh*t you want, you need to support other world issues also?

Why don't you condemn Himpunan Hijau because they only fight on Lynas issue but put aside other environmental issue like illegal logging, buang sampah sepah-sepah and so on? Bunch of hypocrite are they is it?

You have right to choose your cause to suppose, same goes to those who support Hamas / Palestine, they want to scream out loud for Palestine only ke apa ke then let them be.

If you don't like then leave this cause to them.

Just To satisfy your brain, We condemn Assad, Boko Haram and whatever killings happen in the world.
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actually it does matter. the point here is consistency in your believe. if you want to claim support on ground of humanity, you need to be consistent with everything.

Else the only reason you support this is because they are your brothers. Change their origin to Vietnamese and you probably wouldn't give a damn.

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Aug 5 2014, 06:09 PM)
My 2 cents .

Gaza is innocent. Hamas isnt.

Israel is innocent. They have a bigger gun, it's not their fault they are forced to use it.
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Yup. Hamas is indeed a real problem. US was right to label them as a terrorist organization. Their way of doing this will never bring peace.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 5 2014, 06:05 PM)
Your example is bad. Astro uses an external service which they can discontinue. They did this i believe not because they are afraid people stop using their service but more for a public outlook purpose and also they still need to do business with other companies and removing this little thorn would make their work much easier without the messy politic involve.

But McD doesnt have this option. U wan them to renounce their McD ties and rename it to Brothers Burger while taking supplies from Ramli burger? Or u just happier they close down shop and depriving other Malaysian of McD?

The point is end game. What is your end game? Will the president of mcd say omg msia sales down.. i better get on the phone with israel president ask him to stop, else tomoro my chic nugget cannot sell...

So in other words, it is meaningless.
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i want to correct my statement first...actually we dun need to boycott until mcd is shutdown totally and many will be jobless...its just enough if israel stop their wars on gaza...after that the boycotting will be stop...if israel still not listen even their economy had been collapse yes the boycott will be continue and the most ugly consequences will be like u said mcd in malaysia will be totally shutdown...dont blame on our effort but blame on israel because dun want to acknowledge our big support towards gaza by collapsing their economy...this will be a long effort from us to stop israel from marge and invade gaza by killing Innocent people especially the children...they live miserably day and night because of this prolong wars...

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Aug 5 2014, 06:09 PM)
My 2 cents .

Gaza is innocent. Hamas isnt.

Israel is innocent. They have a bigger gun, it's not their fault they are forced to use it.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 5 2014, 06:10 PM)
actually it does matter. the point here is consistency in your believe. if you want to claim support on ground of humanity, you need to be consistent with everything.

Else the only reason you support this is because they are your brothers. Change their origin to Vietnamese and you probably wouldn't give a damn.
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Yeah. What a awesome view.
The whole world is wrong coz being inconsistent yet ktards here is so wonderfully correct of being neutral not condemned any party (condem palestine supporter not considered as taking any side)
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Bro good luck, you've just been labeled as a non-believer liao
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i dont know you irl, but what have you done with regards to the issues you brought up above?
honestly i have done nothing  blush.gif
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I saw the game you played.

What I want to pinned point here is our "mentality". We may done nothing to local crisis, but once we always think of the other unrelated stuff, how are we going to take care of our national crisis? I shall admit I did nothing too but
for water crisis, I use water real carefully, storing rain water for washing cars
for Sabah crisis, I can't do anything as I don't have any authority or professional in that particular field.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 5 2014, 06:38 PM)
I saw the game you played.

What I want to pinned point here is our "mentality". We may done nothing to local crisis, but once we always think of the other unrelated stuff, how are we going to take care of our national crisis? I shall admit I did nothing too but
for water crisis, I use water real carefully, storing rain water for washing cars
for Sabah crisis, I can't do anything as I don't have any authority or professional in that particular field.
Tax Paid.

Even little effort been done, but I do my part as a Malaysian.
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as malaysian in our daily life we are contributing something for our country...the person who go to work every day and need to pay tolls, parking fee and so on all of it can be called as contribute in something for our country...even many of us ktards are tax payer...

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How come suddenly boycotting McD = Stopping war in Gaza ???
If I'm McD I'll just issue a PR notice to condemn Israel's attack on Gaza if the boycott really have an affect on the business.

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i want to correct my statement first...actually we dun need to boycott until mcd is shutdown totally and many will be jobless...its just enough if israel stop their wars on gaza...after that the boycotting will be stop...if israel still not listen even their economy had been collapse yes the boycott will be continue and the most ugly consequences will be like u said mcd in malaysia will be totally shutdown...dont blame on our effort but blame on israel because dun want to acknowledge our big support towards gaza by collapsing their economy...this will be a long effort from us to stop israel from marge and invade gaza by killing Innocent people especially the children...they live miserably day and night because of this prolong wars...
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bro. i dont know what world u live in but its definately not same reality as me. U must be kidding if you think boycott McD can collapse Israel economy.

In my reality/world only great power can stop another great power. U need an economy the size of China to stop America. And even then they still keep rolling. And here you dream to stop Israel and its more "smarter" people by boycotting a fast food join? Are you kidding me?

Im speechless doh.gif

If Muslim really wants to show their power in the world they have to built an economy that can rival their "enemies". Please stop doing pointless stuff like this. I really want you all to berjaya but omg the level of naivety is ..........
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bro. i dont know what world u live in but its definately not same reality as me. U must be kidding if you think boycott McD can collapse Israel economy.

In my reality/world only great power can stop another great power. U need an economy the size of China to stop America. And even then they still keep rolling. And here you dream to stop Israel and its more "smarter" people by boycotting a fast food join? Are you kidding me?

Im speechless doh.gif

If Muslim really wants to show their power in the world they have to built an economy that can rival their "enemies". Please stop doing pointless stuff like this. I really want you all to berjaya but omg the level of naivety is ..........
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we never know if never try...boycotting to collapsed israel not involve our country only other country should take part too then we might have chance
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Yeah. What a awesome view.
The whole world is wrong coz being inconsistent yet ktards here is so wonderfully correct of being neutral not condemned any party (condem palestine supporter not considered as taking any side)
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If you saying me as the ktard tht is condemning Palestinian supporter, then that is where you are jumping to conclusion. I am not neutral. I support the one that can resolve this issue once and for all. And to me that is Israel. I believe they have the power to end this thing once and for all. Palestinian are powerless and their allies is, well lets just say if you have friends like this better no need have friends.

The way the achieve this end to this conflict however might not make everyone happy. But then again who is happy in such situation? Look at Iraq and Afgan. Even in our backyard, Southern Philippine still cant agree with each other.
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we never know if never try...boycotting to collapsed israel not involve our country only other country should take part too then we might have chance
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your action is like boycotting ramli burger and hope malaysia will go into an economic collapse.
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Boycotting means exercising your consumer rights. It's acceptable.

Disrupting businesses though is a totally different kettle of fish. It's unethical. It might even be criminal.
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we never know if never try...boycotting to collapsed israel not involve our country only other country should take part too then we might have chance
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So you think Israel will lesap if McDonald lesap too?
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If Zionist stop taking land n stop blocking border, hamas eventually will stop rocketing them.

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I saw the game you played.

What I want to pinned point here is our "mentality". We may done nothing to local crisis, but once we always think of the other unrelated stuff, how are we going to take care of our national crisis? I shall admit I did nothing too but
for water crisis, I use water real carefully, storing rain water for washing cars
for Sabah crisis, I can't do anything as I don't have any authority or professional in that particular field.
Tax Paid.

Even little effort been done, but I do my part as a Malaysian.
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no games played. just an honest question that i have been dying to ask

so basically we can do some for both

yes, this gaza thingy got more traction maybe due to jew/israel hatred but doesn't mean that other things are totally being ignored
just that..here in /k..doesnt matter whether you do or not, ppl have the freedom to bash you just for the sake of bashing

as you said, being part of malaysian, they need to do their part for the country..
same as for muslims, need to do their part for their 'brothers' no matter where they are
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There will never be peace this way.
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 5 2014, 07:07 PM)
no games played. just an honest question that i have been dying to ask

so basically we can do some for both

yes, this gaza thingy got more traction maybe due to jew/israel hatred but doesn't mean that other things are totally being ignored
just that..here in /k..doesnt matter whether you do or not, ppl have the freedom to bash you just for the sake of bashing

as you said, being part of malaysian, they need to do their part for the country..
same as for muslims, need to do their part for their 'brothers' no matter where they are
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they not even try....then it will be no peace.
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That's a nice looking British Mandate of Palestine currency. I take it that's 10 mils? 5 mils is a bit smaller, and has olive sprig around the hole.
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If you saying me as the ktard tht is condemning Palestinian supporter, then that is where you are jumping to conclusion. I am not neutral. I support the one that can resolve this issue once and for all. And to me that is Israel. I believe they have the power to end this thing once and for all. Palestinian are powerless and their allies is, well lets just say if you have friends like this better no need have friends.

The way the achieve this end to this conflict however might not make everyone happy. But then again who is happy in such situation? Look at Iraq and Afgan. Even in our backyard, Southern Philippine still cant agree with each other.
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Ktards is plural and not specifically point to u. biggrin.gif
So many of them claim they are not taking any side yet keep bashing those Palestinian supporters like no tomorrow.

TBH I don't really care brother which side you are taking (it is freedom of choice) but to leave this rotten problem to be resolved by Israel alone is unjust. It just like you let your bullies decide what to do with you coz you are out of strength.

Since you bringing up inconsistency issues here, are u consistent enough to condemn other inconsistent parties for e.g group that claim themselves as environmental activists group but only fight for specifics cause like Lynas. Or group that call for justice in politics yet keep silent when their favourite political parties do wrong?
Are they being condemned as much as you guys condemned Palestinian supporters for being inconsistent in humanity issue according to you?


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Garnier care packages boost Israeli soldiers' beauty regimens

Cosmetic donations spark backlash from opponents of Gaza offensive.

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Care packages of deodorants, soaps and other cosmetics sent to female Israeli soldiers are sparking outrage online.

The Israel advocacy group Stand With Us posted (link is external) several Facebook photos of the care packages, which they said were donated by Garnier Israel. The post went viral and received more than 10,000 comments, most of them criticising the decision to donate the cosmetics to the soldiers.

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http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201408041809-0024006

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A Palestinian girl sits and eats in the rubble of her destroyed home following an overnight Israeli strike on Gaza City

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ire-begins.html
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we never know if never try...boycotting to collapsed israel not involve our country only other country should take part too then we might have chance
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To say that it would bring down the economy of Israel probably too much. I would say this is as symbol of protest on their cruelty. This is better rather than not doing anything for the reason of "this is Hamas fault" or "i am not taking any side".


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QUOTE(Mustadio @ Aug 5 2014, 07:50 PM)
Garnier care packages boost Israeli soldiers' beauty regimens

Cosmetic donations spark backlash from opponents of Gaza offensive.

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Care packages of deodorants, soaps and other cosmetics sent to female Israeli soldiers are sparking outrage online.

The Israel advocacy group Stand With Us posted (link is external) several Facebook photos of the care packages, which they said were donated by Garnier Israel. The post went viral and received more than 10,000 comments, most of them criticising the decision to donate the cosmetics to the soldiers.

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http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201408041809-0024006

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ire-begins.html
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Garnier. Shit product. I use it, my face got many acne after i'm using it. My friends and also my sister experience the same thing
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I ask you this. As it is now. Forget the 1967 border, will the Palestinian accept it? Because I don't know if they ever would, especially Hamas.

The optimist likes to believe a two state solution. But the pessimist like me, dont believe it will ever happen. Because neither side really wants it because after so many years neither trust each other anymore. At best, you will have a situation like NK and SK.

But to me this too will never happen.

So the "brothers" was sort of right all along. The only way to peace is a 1 state solution. Except you can say bye bye to a Palestine state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-state_solution

But there is a lot of critic to this solution even within Israel as this would make the Jew a minority in a Jewish state.

So after all, there is no peaceful solution. Go on killing each other...

Despite all the horror, I feel Israel is being too soft. They have within their power to wipe Palestinian of the map. And in my opinion they should. Its messy but its a permanent solution to a never ending problem. Coz given a single chance, the Arab would won't shed a single sweat doing the same to them. And they did tried, unsuccessfully. Too bad in today's connected would doing so will permanently give them a bad image n politician always needs to jaga face.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 5 2014, 07:53 PM)
I ask you this. As it is now. Forget the 1967 border, will the Palestinian accept it? Because I don't know if they ever would, especially Hamas.

The optimist likes to believe a two state solution. But the pessimist like me, dont believe it will ever happen. Because neither side really wants it because after so many years neither trust each other anymore. At best, you will have a situation like NK and SK.

But to me this too will never happen.

So the "brothers" was sort of right all along. The only way to peace is a 1 state solution. Except you can say bye bye to a Palestine state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-state_solution

But there is a lot of critic to this solution even within Israel as this would make the Jew a minority in a Jewish state.

So after all, there is no peaceful solution. Go on killing each other...

Despite all the horror, I feel Israel is being too soft. They have within their power to wipe Palestinian of the map. And in my opinion they should. Its messy but its a permanent solution to a never ending problem. Coz given a single chance, the Arab would won't shed a single sweat doing the same to them. And they did tried, unsuccessfully. Too bad in today's connected would doing so will permanently give them a bad image n politician always needs to jaga face.
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Ktards is plural and not specifically point to u. biggrin.gif
So many of them claim they are not taking any side yet keep bashing those Palestinian supporters like no tomorrow.

TBH I don't really care brother which side you are taking (it is freedom of choice) but to leave this rotten problem to be resolved by Israel alone is unjust. It just like you let your bullies decide what to do with you coz you are out of strength.

Since you bringing up inconsistency issues here, are u consistent enough to condemn other inconsistent parties for e.g group that claim themselves as environmental activists group but only fight for specifics cause like Lynas. Or group that call for justice in politics yet keep silent when their favourite political parties do wrong?
Are they being condemned as much as you guys condemned Palestinian supporters for being inconsistent in humanity issue according to you?
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I'm so sick of looking all this people complaining. Lynas talks shit about rare earth, do they wan to live in the Amazon jungle where tech doesn't exist?
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Because many /k/tards degil wanna set up many threads regarding the same issue. And though they have different start points, they keep spiralling into the same issue. Might as well make one thread to rule them all.
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Because many /k/tards degil wanna set up many threads regarding the same issue. And though they have different start points, they keep spiralling into the same issue. Might as well make one thread to rule them all.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 5 2014, 07:58 PM)
U not my friend in real life so u cant be certain i am telling the truth but yes, I do.

I'm so sick of looking all this people complaining. Lynas talks shit about rare earth, do they wan to live in the Amazon jungle where tech doesn't exist?
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Good to know that you been consistent about it but why the virtual condemnation is not as much as you guys did to Palestinian supporters?


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If Zionist stop taking land n stop blocking border, hamas eventually will stop rocketing them.

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We should drag Egypt into this as well. Rafah border is under the control of Egypt authority.
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then don escalate thing more by taking more land.. sweat.gif
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Good to know that you been consistent about it but why the virtual condemnation is not as much as you guys did to Palestinian supporters?
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coz as i say people only support things that has something to do with them. Lynas has no ties to anyone. People jst dont give a shit. Just flip newspaper n continue each breakfast.... so they have no supporter. U wan to condem what? The company? BN? Aiya.. this people do everyday liao. Boring. Like makan nasi....
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Even the Egyptian dont want them.
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Even the Egyptian dont want them.
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They should boycott Egypt as well. I'm puzzled how nobody blame Egypt for this prolonged issue.
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Makcik ni menunggu depan Maybank minta derma. So I go asked where she's from and she claimed from Yayasan Hang Tawi. Did a quick search and looked shady as hell. Went back to the car and saw some people donated. After a while, she started going through the money inside the box and started pocketing the RM5 notes. Waited a while then changed location.

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Sejak akhir-akhir ini tersebar luas kempen untuk memboikot KFC di seluruh Malaysia, tidak kurang juga risalah yang bertaburan di masjid-masjid menyeru umat Islam Malaysia agar memboikot KFC Malaysia. Yang lebih malang, kempen boikot KFC yang penuh dengan fitnah ini datangnya daripada mulut mereka yang tahu hukum hakam agama bahkah bergelar Imam dan Ustaz. Padahalnya, mereka sendiri tanpa sedar menyokong rejim Ziones dengan menghisap rokok di kaki tangga masjid. Bukankah lebih molek dan baik jika lakukan kempen membiokot rokok? tidakkah kita tahu rokok itu haram hukumnya? membawa banyak fasad (kerosakan) ke atas tubuh badan manusia? Dan pelik apabila ada manusia yang menyuruh memboikot makanan yang halal tetapi berdiam diri tentang rokok? Mengapa sampai begitu jahilnya kita ini? Jika kita rasa bahawa kita tidak tahu, sama ada KFC Malaysia terlibat dalam menyalurkan royalti (bayaran cukai) kepada KFC Amerika Syarikat yang menyokong Israel, lebih baik kita diam. Jangan membawa fitnah ke sana ke mari, semata-mata kerana kita sendiri tidak berapa pasti maklumat tersebut dan hanya mendengar khabar angin.

Saya sempat menghubungi pegawai-pegawai kanan Tan Sri Muhammad Ali Hashim sebentar tadi- ternyata mereka sangat kecewa dengan kempen kotor lagi tidak bermaruah ini. Jelas, masyarakat kita kurang mengambil berat terhadap kesahihah sumber maklumat dan kurang amanah dalam ilmu pengetahuan. Perlu dijelaskan, bahawa KFC Malaysia hanya menggunakan jenama (brand) KFC semata-mata dan tidak membayar apa-apa cukai atau sebarang keuntungan kepada KFC induk di Amerika Syarikat. Cuma membayar yuran penggunaan jenama. KFC Malaysia adalah hak milik kita. Ia halal di makan tidak seperti rokok.

Menurut Pegawai-pegawai kanan Tan Sri Muhammad Ali Hashim, ini semua adalah fitnah dan boleh menjejaskan pendapatan para pekerja di restoran-restoran KFC di seluruh Malaysia yang berjumlah 19 000 orang itu. Malah, rata-rata pekerjanya terdiri daripada orang Melayu-Islam. Jika para pemboikot itu sanggup menyediakan pekerjaan baharu kepada mereka, itu tiada masalah, silalah boikot. Tetapi malangnya, yang kita tahu hanya memboikot, apabila disuruh untuk menderma ke dalam tabung bantuan rakyat Palestin kita hanya sanggup masukkan RM 5 saja ke dalam peti derma di tepi pintu masjid. Sekarang, mari kita bertanya di manakah kita letakkan keutamaan jihad kita? memboikot sebuah produk yang terbukti salah untuk diboikot atau menggandakan jumlah derma kita kepada rakyat Palestin? Tepuk dada, tanya iman dan bukan tanya kepada Aiman.

Saya tegaskan sekali lagi, tiada salah untuk memboikot - tetapi biar secara bijaksana, berhikmah dan berilmu. Pilih betul-betul produk yang jelas menyalurkan bantuan kepada Rejim Ziones tersebut, jangan main sedap boikot saja. Umat Islam mundur kerana kita ketepikan soal (bijaksana) sebab kita jarang baca al-Quran. Lantaran itu kita mudah diperkotak-katik oleh bangsa lain. Adalah lebih baik pada pandangan saya kita boikot semua jenama rokok. Jelas ia memudaratkan kesihatan, malah jenama syarikat-syarikat besar rokok antarabangsa belum tentu selamat daripada dikaitkan dengan negara Israel.

Oleh yang demikian, saya menyeru kepada sesiapa sahaja, pergilah menjamu selera di restoran-restoran KFC, jangan ragu dan jangan gusar. Ia bukan sahaja halal, malah KFC Malaysia adalah milik orang Islam dan tidak terlibat dalam menyumbang wang atau royalti kepada negara Israel. Malah, ramai yang tidak tahu berapa juta ringgit yang telah didermakan oleh JCorp hasil keuntungan KFC kepada tabung rakyat Palestin. Semua ini memerlukan kita berhati-hati sebelum memboikot.

http://virtualfriends.net/article/articlev...cfm?AID=41886YM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Aug 5 2014, 09:09 PM)
Sejak akhir-akhir ini tersebar luas kempen untuk memboikot KFC di seluruh Malaysia, tidak kurang juga risalah yang bertaburan di masjid-masjid menyeru umat Islam Malaysia agar memboikot KFC Malaysia. Yang lebih malang, kempen boikot KFC yang penuh dengan fitnah ini datangnya daripada mulut mereka yang tahu hukum hakam agama bahkah bergelar Imam dan Ustaz. Padahalnya, mereka sendiri tanpa sedar menyokong rejim Ziones dengan menghisap rokok di kaki tangga masjid. Bukankah lebih molek dan baik jika lakukan kempen membiokot rokok? tidakkah kita tahu rokok itu haram hukumnya? membawa banyak fasad (kerosakan) ke atas tubuh badan manusia? Dan pelik apabila ada manusia yang menyuruh memboikot makanan yang halal tetapi berdiam diri tentang rokok? Mengapa sampai begitu jahilnya kita ini? Jika kita rasa bahawa kita tidak tahu, sama ada KFC Malaysia terlibat dalam menyalurkan royalti (bayaran cukai) kepada KFC Amerika Syarikat yang menyokong Israel, lebih baik kita diam. Jangan membawa fitnah ke sana ke mari, semata-mata kerana kita sendiri tidak berapa pasti maklumat tersebut dan hanya mendengar khabar angin.

Saya sempat menghubungi pegawai-pegawai kanan Tan Sri Muhammad Ali Hashim sebentar tadi- ternyata mereka sangat kecewa dengan kempen kotor lagi tidak bermaruah ini. Jelas, masyarakat kita kurang mengambil berat terhadap kesahihah sumber maklumat dan kurang amanah dalam ilmu pengetahuan. Perlu dijelaskan, bahawa KFC Malaysia hanya menggunakan jenama (brand) KFC semata-mata dan tidak membayar apa-apa cukai atau sebarang keuntungan kepada KFC induk di Amerika Syarikat. Cuma membayar yuran penggunaan jenama. KFC Malaysia adalah hak milik kita. Ia halal di makan tidak seperti rokok.

Menurut Pegawai-pegawai kanan Tan Sri Muhammad Ali Hashim, ini semua adalah fitnah dan boleh menjejaskan pendapatan para pekerja di restoran-restoran KFC di seluruh Malaysia yang berjumlah 19 000 orang itu. Malah, rata-rata pekerjanya terdiri daripada orang Melayu-Islam. Jika para pemboikot itu sanggup menyediakan pekerjaan baharu kepada mereka, itu tiada masalah, silalah boikot. Tetapi malangnya, yang kita tahu hanya memboikot, apabila disuruh untuk menderma ke dalam tabung bantuan rakyat Palestin kita hanya sanggup masukkan RM 5 saja ke dalam peti derma di tepi pintu masjid. Sekarang, mari kita bertanya di manakah kita letakkan keutamaan jihad kita? memboikot sebuah produk yang terbukti salah untuk diboikot atau menggandakan jumlah derma kita kepada rakyat Palestin? Tepuk dada, tanya iman dan bukan tanya kepada Aiman.

Saya tegaskan sekali lagi, tiada salah untuk memboikot - tetapi biar secara bijaksana, berhikmah dan berilmu. Pilih betul-betul produk yang jelas menyalurkan bantuan kepada Rejim Ziones tersebut, jangan main sedap boikot saja. Umat Islam mundur kerana kita ketepikan soal (bijaksana) sebab kita jarang baca al-Quran. Lantaran itu kita mudah diperkotak-katik oleh bangsa lain. Adalah lebih baik pada pandangan saya kita boikot semua jenama rokok. Jelas ia memudaratkan kesihatan, malah jenama syarikat-syarikat besar rokok antarabangsa belum tentu selamat daripada dikaitkan dengan negara Israel.

Oleh yang demikian, saya menyeru kepada sesiapa sahaja, pergilah menjamu selera di restoran-restoran KFC, jangan ragu dan jangan gusar. Ia bukan sahaja halal, malah KFC Malaysia adalah milik orang Islam dan tidak terlibat dalam menyumbang wang atau royalti kepada negara Israel. Malah, ramai yang tidak tahu berapa juta ringgit yang telah didermakan oleh JCorp hasil keuntungan KFC kepada tabung rakyat Palestin. Semua ini memerlukan kita berhati-hati sebelum memboikot.

http://virtualfriends.net/article/articlev...cfm?AID=41886YM
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 5 2014, 08:40 PM)
Makcik ni menunggu depan Maybank minta derma. So I go asked where she's from and she claimed from Yayasan Hang Tawi. Did a quick search and looked shady as hell. Went back to the car and saw some people donated. After a while, she started going through the money inside the box and started pocketing the RM5 notes. Waited a while then changed location.

Location: Maybank Alam mesra KK

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What happen if I go McD this Friday and buy any menu? will anyone take my picture and post in FB? Will I be cursed by everyone and become popular?

Am I wrong by buying Halal Food?
You want boycott, boycott la. why wanna paksa people to boycott. some people have different opinion whether need boycotting or not.

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much hypocrisy; such unholy hatred towards israel
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then u go la.

if u dont care what other people gonna say about ur action, so be it.
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Aug 5 2014, 09:29 PM)
What happen if I go McD this Friday and buy any menu? will anyone take my picture and post in FB? Will I be cursed by everyone and become popular?

Am I wrong by buying Halal Food?
You want boycott, boycott la. why wanna paksa people to boycott. some people have different opinion whether need boycotting or not.

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QUOTE(hirano @ Aug 5 2014, 09:31 PM)
Just eat. I saw many arabs at mcd today
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QUOTE(kehadapan @ Aug 5 2014, 09:31 PM)
then u go la.

if u dont care what other people gonna say about ur action, so be it.
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scare of my picture being shared with 1 malaysia

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ButtSEX....Jaga2...
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Hey its your money anyway
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Aug 5 2014, 09:38 PM)
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scare of my picture being shared with 1 malaysia
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Aug 5 2014, 09:40 PM)
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what rule, ayam not online for a week because of Hari Raya. The last time ayam online, i remember amy story by Plant. but ayam miss part 3. can you share what happen to part 3?
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baru balik raya dah nak promote budaya boycott
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Aug 5 2014, 08:38 PM)
They should boycott Egypt as well. I'm puzzled how nobody blame Egypt for this prolonged issue.
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 5 2014, 08:40 PM)
Makcik ni menunggu depan Maybank minta derma. So I go asked where she's from and she claimed from Yayasan Hang Tawi. Did a quick search and looked shady as hell. Went back to the car and saw some people donated. After a while, she started going through the money inside the box and started pocketing the RM5 notes. Waited a while then changed location.

Location: Maybank Alam mesra KK

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haiz... doh.gif wait.....this makcik i see before like quite long ago also there adi.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 5 2014, 09:44 PM)
haiz... doh.gif wait.....this makcik i see before like quite long ago also there adi.. sweat.gif
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I saw some people also gossiping behind her back. Potential scammer very high
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 5 2014, 09:51 PM)
I saw some people also gossiping behind her back. Potential scammer very high
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u stay in alam mesra? laugh.gif my second home over there,break in there fukken rampant,bodo pinoy vmad.gif
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LOL i thought of buying a house there but luckily tak jadi.  thumbup.gif
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what about when the brother lost a plane? what did the oversea brother did?
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Thread berpotensi

Wait...
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QUOTE(harizdesu @ Aug 5 2014, 11:39 PM)
Thread berpotensi

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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 6 2014, 01:29 AM)

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in canto, people said -

Perompak himself yelled :"faster tangkap perompak! got perompak here!"
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Ini merupakan nasihat daripada seorang saudara kalian yang turut memboikot semampu beliau produk-produk yang menyokong pembinaan negara Zionis Israel.
1- Hendaklah kalian fahami bahawa produk-produk itu adalah halal, tidak haram. Jangan sesekali mengeluarkan perkataan produk itu haram, dan sebagainya.
2- Jauhilah mengeluarkan perkataan-perkataan seperti 'Pekerja McD bekerja dengan pembunuh, tak ada perkemanusiaan dan sebagainya..' Sesungguhnya perkataan sedemikian adalah perkataan hawa nafsu. Mereka bekerja mencari rezeki yang halal, dan bukan hak kita berkata sedemikian kepada mereka.
3- Jauhi sifat-sifat buruk seperti pergi bawa makanan lain dan makan dalam McD, atau saja-saja masuk McD untuk guna tandas mereka atas alasan untuk naikkan kos operasi mereka, atau berkumpul di hadapan kedai mereka. Sesungguhnya mereka membayar sewa untuk premis perniagaan itu, dan tindakan mengganggu kehadiran pelanggan mereka adalah tindakan yang melanggar akhlak Islami dan melanggar hak orang yang sudah membayar sewa untuk premis tersebut.
4- Fahamilah, boikot ini satu ijtihad politik. Ia bukan satu perkara yang qathie/pasti wajibnya. Ia akan sentiasa ada pro dan cons kerana ia satu ijtihad dalam bab keduniaan.
5- Ingatlah, saudara-saudara kita bukan hanya di Gaza, bahkan yang sedang mencari rezeki bekerja itu.
6- Memboikot adalah hak seorang pengguna. Kita sebagai pengguna berhak boikot, dan ajak orang boikot. Tetapi kita tiada hak mengganggu perniagaan orang yang sah dengan berdiri di depan kedai mereka, di pintu kedai mereka, apatah lagi masuk ke dalam premis mereka, atau mensabotaj supaya kos operasi mereka meningkat.
7- Saya memilih boikot, kerana itu hak saya sebagai seorang pengguna.
Inilah pendirian saya. TITIK.
Wallahua'lam.
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Sila baca...
Wakjul - Bab boikot & bersuara mmg hebat Di FB.. tp kalau bab buat solat hajat dimasjid bagi menjahanamkan Israel.. ramai tak yg follow??.. mungkin kita boleh boikot.. tp jgn terlampau fanatik.. Kita tgk balik solat kita & ibadah kita.. Nak boikot Pn tak perlu tunjuk² kat fb.. yg penting niat..
wallahualam..
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they also want iphone and KFC, damn egypt just open the damn border la


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Saw this at penang times square condolence board.
How is gaza any related to mh17?
Can't believe they are so shallow, uninformed and uneducated.
Wonder what's the tourist going to say when they see this.
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Aug 6 2014, 09:55 AM)
guys..my friend jst shared a jewtube about Egypt news commentors blasting on hamas leaders for enjoying luxury life while hamas fighters are fighting in palestine....

and also where hamas shoot rockets from civillians building and claim israel atrocity when israel counter back...

i googled and read that both egypt and jordan dont support much on hamas...

any summary or link for the reason why? reliable source la..not cempedak mangka type that simply claim because egypt/jordan are USA puppet...i mean if yes then at least with reason and explaination why..if got proof even better..

sekian..
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things won't go viral if every single Malaysian do the correct searching with reliable and legal sources.

but, too bad, how many are really "clear" with the current situations?

For now, may I know any action is taken by the Islamic organization (I forgot the name if this organisation, but its unite all the islam country as a whole)....
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QUOTE(Flo_2010 @ Aug 6 2014, 10:12 AM)
Saw this at penang times square condolence board.
How is gaza any related to mh17?
Can't believe they are so shallow, uninformed and uneducated.
Wonder what's the tourist going to say when they see this.
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such powerful message from a country who had lost MH17, we know their suffering. the tourist would be shedding tears
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Aug 6 2014, 09:55 AM)
they also want iphone and KFC, damn egypt just open the damn border la


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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 6 2014, 10:14 AM)
things won't go viral if every single Malaysian do the correct searching with reliable and legal sources.

but, too bad, how many are really "clear" with the current situations?

For now, may I know any action is taken by the Islamic organization (I forgot the name if this organisation, but its unite all the islam country as a whole)....
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I think you are referring to OIC
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People who make rally or demonstrate in front of MCD are not acceptable...just boycott not to go to the place is enough...if they really want to make any rally make at another place...
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 6 2014, 12:29 PM)
People who make rally or demonstrate in front of MCD are not acceptable...just boycott not to go to the place is enough...if they really want to make any rally make at another place...
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Freedom of expression.
Unless they're on the premises property, else it's up to them.
They can't stop people from going in though.
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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 6 2014, 12:39 PM)
Freedom of expression.
Unless they're on the premises property, else it's up to them.
They can't stop people from going in though.
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im agree with boycotting even im boycott MCD and some of the product channel money to Israel...but to make boycotting to that extend really inappropriate...even as a muslim im feeling shame with their behavior...that wasnt a freedom expression...it will tarnish our culture and give bad example to the young generation...

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 6 2014, 12:39 PM)
Freedom of expression.
Unless they're on the premises property, else it's up to them.
They can't stop people from going in though.
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yup i agree with you.

There is a fine line between freedom of expression (law) and being inappropriate (morale)

A thing can still be ok by law and be inappropriate. The Japanese is best at this. Things like do not talk on phone while on train for example.

Its important that freedom of expression be allowed (things like protest outside of a premise) even if its inappropriate because such law is the same law that will protect more important rally like BERSIH etc... (please dont sidetrack to talk about BERSIH after this. Stick to the topic at hand.)

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Aug 6 2014, 12:45 PM)
im agree with boycotting even im boycott MCD and some of the product channel money to Israel...but to make boycotting to that extend really inappropriate...even as a muslim im feeling shame with their behavior...that wasnt a freedom expression...it will tarnish our culture and give bad example to the young generation...
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You're allowed to be stupid, or smart, if you choose so.
Thing is, you should be allowed to do things that you believe in. Of course others may do things to counter that belief, but it's mutual respect that each person have their own opinions that should eventually be the baseline.
I know you support Palestinian's cause. You know I don't.
But the baseline is, you have just as much right to believe in your judgement as much as I do of mine. I don't know how to express myself further on this one without sounding too condescending.

Things are changing. Problems with Malaysians is that they're not vocal enough. The silent majority are being represented by a vocal part that are pretty damn racist to be honest. Choosing to stand up for your own belief is something that we all must learn to do.
It might not be right in your eyes, but respecting other people's choice in life, is just as important.
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QUOTE(Flo_2010 @ Aug 6 2014, 10:12 AM)
Saw this at penang times square condolence board.
How is gaza any related to mh17?
Can't believe they are so shallow, uninformed and uneducated.
Wonder what's the tourist going to say when they see this.
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Absolutely disgusting and an insult to the air tragedy victims to kuda like that.
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Aug 6 2014, 09:55 AM)
guys..my friend jst shared a jewtube about Egypt news commentors blasting on hamas leaders for enjoying luxury life while hamas fighters are fighting in palestine...
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i googled and read that both egypt and jordan dont support much on hamas...
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Aug 6 2014, 10:17 AM)
regardless, egypt and jordan are both neighbours to palestine..meaning they should have information which is a lot clearer than ppl in Malaysia..
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For your information, current Egypt government is pretty much anti-Islam. Posters that encourage sending salutations to the prophet Muhammad are torn down, and people who put up the posters are apprehended, because "it is discriminatory towards non-Muslims".

Egyptian media have been anti-Islam for a long time.

Them blasting Hamas is not surprising. Not that they are biased towards Israel, they are biased against Hamas.
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QUOTE(syockit @ Aug 6 2014, 02:36 PM)
For your information, current Egypt government is pretty much anti-Islam. Posters that encourage sending salutations to the prophet Muhammad are torn down, and people who put up the posters are apprehended, because "it is discriminatory towards non-Muslims".

Egyptian media have been anti-Islam for a long time.

Them blasting Hamas is not surprising. Not that they are biased towards Israel, they are biased against Hamas.
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from what i read on wiki, egypt has 90% muslim population, and in their constitution states that "any new legislation must at least implicitly agree with Islamic law." SOS

so you are saying that the Egyptian government and media are anti-islam? you really take the "if they're not with us, they're against us" to a new level don't you?

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Aug 6 2014, 02:48 PM)
<citation needed>
from what i read on wiki, egypt has 90% muslim population, and in their constitution states that "any new legislation must at least implicitly agree with Islamic law." SOS

so you are saying that the Egyptian government and media are anti-islam? you really take the "if they're not with us, they're against us" to a new level don't you?
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I'm sorry that I only have my Egyptian friends' testimonies i.e. anecdotes to back that up.
90% muslim population has no bearing on this. It's not like all of them chose to be Muslims in the first place.

"any new legislation must at least implicitly agree with Islamic law" needs citation. Constitution (2014 edition) says "the principles of sharia are the principal source of legislation", but it does not need to be exactly Islamic. But since when do governments follow their constitutions to the letter anyway? Our country is one good example to the contrary.

Okay, anti-pro-Islam is more appropriate I suppose. I dunno, do you have to all-out speak against Islam to be considered anti-Islam? It's just the media (and the current government) is kind of allergic to Islamic related things, just like the lots of /k/tards opening up threads on Gaza each time Israel does something.
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QUOTE(syockit @ Aug 6 2014, 03:09 PM)
I'm sorry that I only have my Egyptian friends' testimonies i.e. anecdotes to back that up.
90% muslim population has no bearing on this. It's not like all of them chose to be Muslims in the first place.

"any new legislation must at least implicitly agree with Islamic law" needs citation. Constitution (2014 edition) says "the principles of sharia are the principal source of legislation", but it does not need to be exactly Islamic. But since when do governments follow their constitutions to the letter anyway? Our country is one good example to the contrary.

Okay, anti-pro-Islam is more appropriate I suppose. I dunno, do you have to all-out speak against Islam to be considered anti-Islam? It's just the media (and the current government) is kind of allergic to Islamic related things, just like the lots of /k/tards opening up threads on Gaza each time Israel does something.
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body of the relevant Supreme Constitutional Court Rulings
Egypt Constitution 2014, page 5

on paper, it's still Islamic, regardless if they follow constitution to the letter or not..


It seems just mind-boggling to have Islamic governments and media to be allergic to their own religion openly just like that. in fact, this is the first time i ever heard of it.
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Aug 6 2014, 03:34 PM)
Thanks for the info...

but arent egyptians muslims? nearly all of them?

not sure how one can be anti-islam when they are islam themselves....or am i missing something?
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same as jews who is anti-israel

they call them self hating jew

cant brain why anti-israel (illegal terrorist nation ) considered as anti jew (race)

if non jew then u call them anti-Semite as usual
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QUOTE(syockit @ Aug 6 2014, 02:36 PM)
For your information, current Egypt government is pretty much anti-Islam. Posters that encourage sending salutations to the prophet Muhammad are torn down, and people who put up the posters are apprehended, because "it is discriminatory towards non-Muslims".

Egyptian media have been anti-Islam for a long time.

Them blasting Hamas is not surprising. Not that they are biased towards Israel, they are biased against Hamas.
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eh eh eh.. wait ya.

last time say its about "humanity" apasal suddenly become about religion.... tongue.gif

see this is why we "yahudi" dont trust that this is about "humanity" its was always about power, land, and religion.
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from what i read on wiki, egypt has 90% muslim population, and in their constitution states that "any new legislation must at least implicitly agree with Islamic law." SOS

so you are saying that the Egyptian government and media are anti-islam? you really take the "if they're not with us, they're against us" to a new level don't you?
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I'm sorry that I only have my Egyptian friends' testimonies i.e. anecdotes to back that up.
90% muslim population has no bearing on this. It's not like all of them chose to be Muslims in the first place.

"any new legislation must at least implicitly agree with Islamic law" needs citation. Constitution (2014 edition) says "the principles of sharia are the principal source of legislation", but it does not need to be exactly Islamic. But since when do governments follow their constitutions to the letter anyway? Our country is one good example to the contrary.

Okay, anti-pro-Islam is more appropriate I suppose. I dunno, do you have to all-out speak against Islam to be considered anti-Islam? It's just the media (and the current government) is kind of allergic to Islamic related things, just like the lots of /k/tards opening up threads on Gaza each time Israel does something.
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bhai.... Dun putar lah bhai....
I thought u guys Mia brotherhood always concerning humanity...

and yea, its OIC. Any action taken by them? Just want to know......
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bhai.... Dun putar lah bhai....
I thought u guys Mia brotherhood always concerning humanity...

and yea, its OIC. Any action taken by them? Just want to know......
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setakat condemn dalam paper / speech, macam hero nampaknye

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2013/02/unca...estine-conflict
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/06-A...tinian-genocide
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/76387E...5257D11006A000D

any other actions? tarak

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Fatwa wajib boikot barangan Israel

KOTA BHARU: Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan perlu mengeluarkan fatwa bagi mewajibkan umat Islam memulau semua barangan dan produk keluaran syarikat Yahudi Zionis.

Naib Ketua Pemuda PAS Kelantan, Mohd Asri Mat Daud ketika dipetik Harakahdaily berkata, kaedah pemulauan atau boikot merupakan cara berkesan yang pernah dilakukan Rasulullah SAW ketika baginda mentadbir Madinah.

"Baginda SAW mengarahkan umat Islam membina pasarraya sendiri bagi meninggalkan pasarraya Qainuqa’ yang dimonopoli kaum Yahudi pada masa itu.

"Oleh itu tekanan yang sama perlu dilakukan seluruh umat Islam, bahkan menjadi kewajipan ulama, mufti mengeluarkan kenyataan rasmi memulau barangan Yahudi Zionis," katanya di sini.

Beliau yang juga Setiausaha Akhbar Menteri Besar Kelantan berkata, kerajaan Malaysia perlu memutuskan segera hubungan dagang dengan Yahudi Israel walau dalam apa jua bentuk sekalipun.

Kata beliau hentikan segera penjualan minyak sawit kepada Israel.

"Kami menuntut kerajaan Malaysia jangan hanya sekadar menyalurkan sumbangan kepada rakyat Gaza, sedangkan dalam masa yang sama melantik APCO sebagai penasihat kerajaan," katanya.

Kelmarin Menteri Perdagangan Antarabangsa dan Industri, Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohamed mengakui ada syarikat multinasional mempunyai hubungan dengan Israel.

Pada 2013 Biro Statistik Pusat Israel menyebut Malaysia merupakan destinasi ke-11 eksport terbesar negara Zionis tersebut yang bernilai RM4.8 bilion.

"Kalau Britain RedRat boleh umumkan secara rasmi penamatan kontrak dengan Israel kenapa tidak kita di Malaysia," ujar Mohd Asri.

Mengikut catatan sejarah bumi Palestin diwakafkan Saidina Umar Al-Khattab kepada penduduk Islam Palestin.

Malah fatwa ulama-ulama antaranya fatwa Kesatuan Ulama Dunia pada 1935, fatwa Ulama Iraq (1937) dan fatwa Ulama Al-Azhar (1947) menjelaskan keseluruhan tanah air Palestin hanyalah untuk umat Islam.

Fatwa itu dipertegaskan lagi dengan tandatangan 63 ulama seluruh dunia pada 1988 bahawa Palestin adalah bumi umat Islam.

Ulama terbabit antaranya Dr Najmudin Arbakan, Syeikh Mustafa Mashur, Dr Yusof Al-Qaradhawi, Qadhi Husain Ahmad, Rashid Ghanushi, Dr Fathi Yakan, Syeikh Mohammad Al-Ghazali dan Dr Wahbah Al-Zuhaili.

Mereka sepakat memberitahu "Jihad (dengan senjata) adalah cara kita (umat Islam) berdepan dengan Yahudi untuk membebaskan Palestin.

"Haram sama sekali memberi hak walau satu inci daripada tanah Palestin kepada Yahudi. Begitu juga haram bagi orang perseorangan atau mana-mana institusi atau kerajaan yang membenarkan Yahudi menjajah bumi Palestin".

Negara haram Israel wujud pada 2 April 1947 selepas wilayah Palestin dibahagi kepada negara Arab dan negara Yahudi, manakala Baitulmaqdis diletakkan di bawah tanggungjawab antarabangsa.


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Fatwa wajib boikot barangan Israel

KOTA BHARU: Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan perlu mengeluarkan fatwa bagi mewajibkan umat Islam memulau semua barangan dan produk keluaran syarikat Yahudi Zionis.

Naib Ketua Pemuda PAS Kelantan, Mohd Asri Mat Daud ketika dipetik Harakahdaily berkata, kaedah pemulauan atau boikot merupakan cara berkesan yang pernah dilakukan Rasulullah SAW ketika baginda mentadbir Madinah.

"Baginda SAW mengarahkan umat Islam membina pasarraya sendiri bagi meninggalkan pasarraya Qainuqa’ yang dimonopoli kaum Yahudi pada masa itu.

"Oleh itu tekanan yang sama perlu dilakukan seluruh umat Islam, bahkan menjadi kewajipan ulama, mufti mengeluarkan kenyataan rasmi memulau barangan Yahudi Zionis," katanya di sini.

Beliau yang juga Setiausaha Akhbar Menteri Besar Kelantan berkata, kerajaan Malaysia perlu memutuskan segera hubungan dagang dengan Yahudi Israel walau dalam apa jua bentuk sekalipun.

Kata beliau hentikan segera penjualan minyak sawit kepada Israel.

"Kami menuntut kerajaan Malaysia jangan hanya sekadar menyalurkan sumbangan kepada rakyat Gaza, sedangkan dalam masa yang sama melantik APCO sebagai penasihat kerajaan," katanya.

Kelmarin Menteri Perdagangan Antarabangsa dan Industri, Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohamed mengakui ada syarikat multinasional mempunyai hubungan dengan Israel.

Pada 2013 Biro Statistik Pusat Israel menyebut Malaysia merupakan destinasi ke-11 eksport terbesar negara Zionis tersebut yang bernilai RM4.8 bilion.

"Kalau Britain RedRat boleh umumkan secara rasmi penamatan kontrak dengan Israel kenapa tidak kita di Malaysia," ujar Mohd Asri.

Mengikut catatan sejarah bumi Palestin diwakafkan Saidina Umar Al-Khattab kepada penduduk Islam Palestin.

Malah fatwa ulama-ulama antaranya fatwa Kesatuan Ulama Dunia pada 1935, fatwa Ulama Iraq (1937) dan fatwa Ulama Al-Azhar (1947) menjelaskan keseluruhan tanah air Palestin hanyalah untuk umat Islam.

Fatwa itu dipertegaskan lagi dengan tandatangan 63 ulama seluruh dunia pada 1988 bahawa Palestin adalah bumi umat Islam.

Ulama terbabit antaranya Dr Najmudin Arbakan, Syeikh Mustafa Mashur, Dr Yusof Al-Qaradhawi, Qadhi Husain Ahmad, Rashid Ghanushi, Dr Fathi Yakan, Syeikh Mohammad Al-Ghazali dan Dr Wahbah Al-Zuhaili.

Mereka sepakat memberitahu "Jihad (dengan senjata) adalah cara kita (umat Islam) berdepan dengan Yahudi untuk membebaskan Palestin.

"Haram sama sekali memberi hak walau satu inci daripada tanah Palestin kepada Yahudi. Begitu juga haram bagi orang perseorangan atau mana-mana institusi atau kerajaan yang membenarkan Yahudi menjajah bumi Palestin".

Negara haram Israel wujud pada 2 April 1947 selepas wilayah Palestin dibahagi kepada negara Arab dan negara Yahudi, manakala Baitulmaqdis diletakkan di bawah tanggungjawab antarabangsa.

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only know boycott boycott only. Why don't they list down the products that they have to boycott? List ma.... Later boycott the wrong thing than not good lo.
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only know boycott boycott only. Why don't they list down the products that they have to boycott? List ma.... Later boycott the wrong thing than not good lo.
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also should ask them not to look for job at those places they want to boycott.

oh and those already working there are encouraged to resign and work somewhere else

so got more opportunity for those who don't want to boycott
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also should ask them not to look for job at those places they want to boycott.

oh and those already working there are encouraged to resign and work somewhere else

so got more opportunity for those who don't want to boycott
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yea.. True also. WA... Then alot mcd need close down liao.

checked all the materials also like the brick or cement used in building.....




I hope those who read the news can keep a rational mind....

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I feel mad reading this news. Nak boikot tu ada batasnya. Ini sampai BERDEMO depan MCD, tak fikir ke pekerja yang kat dalam tu, mereka mencari rezeki, and then some of the idiot people "Menabur Pasir dekat Periuk Nasi Orang". This is way too much doh.gif shakehead.gif

NGO kesal orang ramai ganggu premis McDonald's

KUALA LUMPUR: Pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) Aqsa Syarif memohon orang ramai yang menyokong kempen boikot barangan Israel supaya mengawal diri dan tidak melanggar batas undang-undang dalam menjayakan kempen itu sebagai menunjukkan rasa simpati terhadap penderitaan penduduk Palestin di Gaza.

Pengerusinya Dr Hafidzi Mohd Noor merujuk kepada kejadian premis McDonald’s (McD) di Dungun pada 5 Ogos di mana sekumpulan orang ramai mengganggu premis McD dan membaling objek keras serta menggoncang pintu kedai restoran berkenaan.

Tindakan liar dan melampau ini tidak tergolong sebagai menyokong inisiatif boikot, sebaliknya lebih mirip kepada perbuatan merosakkan harta awam (vandalism),” kata Dr. Hafidzi.

Tambah beliau, sungguhpun boikot adalah hak pengguna melakukan tindakan sivil sebagai tekanan namun ia tidak mewajarkan seseorang itu bertindak secara fizikal atau lisan untuk menakut-nakutkan serta mendatangkan kecederaan batang tubuh atau emosi pada pemilik premis dan pekerjanya.

“Perbuatan tidak bertamadun ini tidak wajar dibiarkan begitu sahaja kerana ia bertentangan dengan tata susila, akhlak Islam dan lunas undang undang,” katanya.

NGO berkenaan turut menasihatkan agar tidak diadakan sebarang bentuk demonstrasi atau perhimpunan di hadapan atau berhampiran mana-mana premis yang berkaitan.

“Aqsa Syarif menyarankan orang ramai menghubungi pihak polis jika perbuatan ganas seperti ini berulang lagi,” katanya.

Serangan kejam rejim Zionis ke atas Palestin yang bermula pada 8 Julai lalu mengakibatkan kematian ribuan rakyat Palestin dan menimbulkan gesaan pelbagai pihak agar orang ramai memboikot produk-produk yang didakwa memberi sumbangan kepada tabung perang Israel.

Kempen boikot bukan sahaja dilakukan di Malaysia tetapi di seluruh dunia, terutama sekali di negara majoriti penduduknya adalah beragama Islam.

Namun, di sebalik kempen boikot, terdapat beberapa insiden yang dilaporkan di media sosial di mana kakitangan makanan segera dan kafe jenama antarabangsa diserang.


Read more at: http://www.astroawani.com/news/show/ngo-ke...onalds-41351?cp

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Egypt should push for to be a secular nation. Politics and religion should be separated.
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Actually it has been one since the days of Gamal A. Naseer, all the way to Sadat and Mubarak. Morsy tried to change it a bit, then failed, then they got the current leader. The first one was quite aggressive towards Islam, similar to Kemal Ataturk in Turkey, then with Sadat and Mubarak they became a bit more lenient. Then after the topple of Morsy, it became more prominently anti-Islam, probably in reaction to Morsy trying to put more Islamists in the government.
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eh eh eh.. wait ya.

last time say its about "humanity" apasal suddenly become about religion....  tongue.gif
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Last time, who?

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bhai.... Dun putar lah bhai....
I thought u guys Mia brotherhood always concerning humanity...
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I'm not spinning anything. Egypt government is anti-Islam (or anti-pro-Islam), so they are against the idea of "helping your brothers in Islam".

They hate Hamas because I dunno? Maybe political reasons?

What is it with this humanity thing?
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Last time, who?

I'm not spinning anything. Egypt government is anti-Islam (or anti-pro-Islam), so they are against the idea of "helping your brothers in Islam".

They hate Hamas because I dunno? Maybe political reasons?

What is it with this humanity thing?
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Actually it has been one since the days of Gamal A. Naseer, all the way to Sadat and Mubarak. Morsy tried to change it a bit, then failed, then they got the current leader. The first one was quite aggressive towards Islam, similar to Kemal Ataturk in Turkey, then with Sadat and Mubarak they became a bit more lenient. Then after the topple of Morsy, it became more prominently anti-Islam, probably in reaction to Morsy trying to put more Islamists in the government.
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I feel Ataturk way is so far the best. U can still have a large Islamic population without getting drawn in to the muddy politics when u mix gov n religion. Because once gov = religion, all debate is down the toilet when the argument is always ended coz god says so n our religion triumphs all of yours. Its a very bad way to go into a discussion about anything.
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I feel Ataturk way is so far the best. U can still have a large Islamic population without getting drawn in to the muddy politics when u mix gov n religion. Because once gov = religion, all debate is down the toilet when the argument is always ended coz god says so n our religion triumphs all of yours. Its a very bad way to go into a discussion about anything.
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I disagree. If you want to go secular, I'd rather you do it the liberal way, not the totalitarian/fascist way. Ataturk banned many things related to Islam. He banned use of Arabic script, banned use of Arabic in prayer calls, banned hijab etc. Turkey went from one extreme to the other.

In terms of secular government with religious freedom, I think USA, UK etc. are better models.
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I dont knowlah. boycotting israel or us never seem to have any impact.

Why not boycotting those middle east (Arab) countries who are not doing anything to help even though they are rich and powerful. Why is it just us who bising2 want to boycott when Arab countries are doing anything.

(I checked McDs quarterly financial announcement, sales in Middle East is actually increasing)

I say boycott these muslim Arab countries. boycott going to their countries. Its also time for non arab muslim countries to boycott them because they conveniently use Haj quota to keep us from criticising them. If Non Arab muslim countries unite and boycott them, it will send a very powerful message.

Boycott haji (ofcourse our ulamas must study this first, if its haram then dontlah...but we need to do something big) for the sake of Palestinian brothers so that the arabs will lose a lot of money.

Send strong message to Arabs to start fighting for our Palestinian brothers.

just my opinonlah...boycott mcd all you want, but mcd will survive this, always has and always will.

US does give a shit nor would Israel, France, UK. Its time we do it different.

Boycott Arabs, that will send a strong message!

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I say boycott these muslim Arab countries. boycott going to their countries. Its also time for non arab muslim countries to boycott them because they conveniently use Haj quota to keep us from criticising them. If Non Arab muslim countries unite and boycott them, it will send a very powerful message.

Boycott haji (ofcourse our ulamas must study this first, if its haram then dontlah...but we need to do something big) for the sake of Palestinian brothers so that the arabs will lose a lot of money.
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This is a mutually-assured destruction scenario. Hajj quota is a big thing. If they could boycott Hajj, they probably would, but alas they can't. It almost amounts to blasphemy. And since people want to go for Hajj, governments have to kowtow to Saudi kingdom, or else face the wrath of the people.

Oh yeah, only Hajj quota only conveniently used by Saudi, not other Arab countries. But if you suggest people should extend boycott to Arab countries because they don't spend their petrodollars to help Palestinian brothers, then I'm afraid people have to boycott almost everyone because many others too do not help Palestine.

And talk about petrodollars; that's probably another factor why boycott against Arab countries also won't work.
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I disagree. If you want to go secular, I'd rather you do it the liberal way, not the totalitarian/fascist way. Ataturk banned many things related to Islam. He banned use of Arabic script, banned use of Arabic in prayer calls, banned hijab etc. Turkey went from one extreme to the other.

In terms of secular government with religious freedom, I think USA, UK etc. are better models.
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Over the years, I came to a conclusion not all country can be govern by a single way. It all depends on several conditions like the people mentality, economic condition, population composition etc etc and the formula to govern them is unique to that country. Although I do agree that Liberal Secularism is probably the best way for same, I also think that maybe at that moment it might not be the best way. After some time maybe. Like now. But at that moment, u need an iron fist to unite the people. Something similar to ancient China comes to mind when you need to unite the whole China. U think democracy would have united China? Haha.. So yes, each to its own. Sometimes the best way somewhere else just doesnt work else where.
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I dont knowlah. boycotting israel or us never seem to have any impact.

Why not boycotting those middle east (Arab) countries who are not doing anything to help even though they are rich and powerful. Why is it just us who bising2 want to boycott when Arab countries are doing anything.

(I checked McDs quarterly financial announcement, sales in Middle East is actually increasing)

I say boycott these muslim Arab countries. boycott going to their countries. Its also time for non arab muslim countries to boycott them because they conveniently use Haj quota to keep us from criticising them. If Non Arab muslim countries unite and boycott them, it will send a very powerful message.

Boycott haji (ofcourse our ulamas must study this first, if its haram then dontlah...but we need to do something big) for the sake of Palestinian brothers so that the arabs will lose a lot of money.

Send strong message to Arabs to start fighting for our Palestinian brothers.

just my opinonlah...boycott mcd all you want, but mcd will survive this, always has and always will.

US does give a shit nor would Israel, France, UK. Its time we do it different.

Boycott Arabs, that will send a strong message!

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In Taboule-Land, criticize the men-in-uniform a bit already got many ppl marah (LTZ, got rob don't report police, got accident don't report police, etc). But when Palestinians get physical, it's "demi keadilan". The best part is if I accuse them of hypocrisy, they get all butthurt.
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Like now. But at that moment, u need an iron fist to unite the people. Something similar to ancient China comes to mind when you need to unite the whole China. U think democracy would have united China? Haha.. So yes, each to its own. Sometimes the best way somewhere else just doesnt work else where.
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If you want smooth governance, then yeah probably Ataturk or modern China is better model. Liberty is the price to pay. Yeah, in the end, it depends on what you consider "the best".

Democracy would have turned China into another India.
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In Taboule-Land, criticize the men-in-uniform a bit already got many ppl marah (LTZ, got rob don't report police, got accident don't report police, etc). But when Palestinians get physical, it's "demi keadilan". The best part is if I accuse them of hypocrisy, they get all butthurt.
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QUOTE(tongkatsu @ Aug 6 2014, 08:19 PM)
In Taboule-Land, criticize the men-in-uniform a bit already got many ppl marah (LTZ, got rob don't report police, got accident don't report police, etc). But when Palestinians get physical, it's "demi keadilan". The best part is if I accuse them of hypocrisy, they get all butthurt.
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U also hypocrite when condemn kaw kaw on Palestinian supporters only, other party punya salah pejam mata nampak semua baik is it?

Typical Taboule-Land citizen macam tu ler.

Ye lah. All salah only you betul, integrity, honest, just, wateva.

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Violence... Violence everywhere. Pointless to say more.
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In Taboule-Land, criticize the men-in-uniform a bit already got many ppl marah (LTZ, got rob don't report police, got accident don't report police, etc). But when Palestinians get physical, it's "demi keadilan". The best part is if I accuse them of hypocrisy, they get all butthurt.
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Only 28 people in the last 14 years have been killed by Palestinian rockets, Israel has killed 500+ just in the weekend of July 19-21:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_r...tacks_on_Israel

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Hoax alert: Video showing “Hamas using children as human shields” is from Syria
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-ab...n-shields-syria

Check your facts first please before spitting your opinion.
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they want turning Malaysia into terrorist country is it?

their brain growing grass is it?

why they go attack peoples' property. WHY.

What is running in their mind
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anyone remember how and why this war begin?
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http://prepperchimp.com/2014/07/22/so-you-...-to-start-with/
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QUOTE(Carellia @ Aug 7 2014, 05:57 AM)
Only 28 people in the last 14 years have been killed by Palestinian rockets, Israel has killed 500+ just in the weekend of July 19-21:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_r...tacks_on_Israel

ALSO:


Hoax alert: Video showing “Hamas using children as human shields” is from Syria
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-ab...n-shields-syria

Check your facts first please before spitting your opinion.
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Kids throwing rocks at passing cars.
Kids get hit by car.

You blame the car or the kids?
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Kids throwing rocks at passing cars.
Kids get hit by car.

You blame the car or the kids?
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the car, obviously brows.gif

because the kids are innocent!




actually it's more like:-

******* throw rocks at passing cars
car tries to ram *******, he dodges and pushes his kid in the direction of the car
kid dies

who you blame? sure car right? the kid was innocent! whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 7 2014, 10:07 AM)
Kids throwing rocks at passing cars.
Kids get hit by car.

You blame the car or the kids?
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Before that, 3 car passengers died and cars accuse kids kill them without evidence. Kids denied. Car hit them first. Then kids throw rocks.

Still want to blame the kids?

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Before that, 3 car passengers died and cars accuse kids kill them without evidence. Kids denied. Car hit them first. Then kids throw rocks.

Still want to blame the kids?
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Honestly, yeah, of course.
Choose your fight!

As the matter of fact I would smack the kids instead for wasting their lives like that. Then give my piece to the parents who encourages such an age.

You want to change something? Grow up first and learn to change things instead of dying at that age by throwing rocks at cars.

Do I feel sad kids that age die? Sure, of course I do.

Do I feel sorry they die in such a manner? No. It serves no purpose other than road kills
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Kids throwing rocks at passing cars.
Kids get hit by car.

You blame the car or the kids?
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both are at fault but the car will get harsher punishment yea? laugh.gif
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anyone remember how and why this war begin?
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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 7 2014, 10:31 AM)
Honestly, yeah, of course.
Choose your fight!

As the matter of fact I would smack the kids instead for wasting their lives like that. Then give my piece to the parents who encourages such an age.

You want to change something? Grow up first and learn to change things instead of dying at that age by throwing rocks at cars.

Do I feel sad kids that age die? Sure, of course I do.

Do I feel sorry they die in such a manner? No. It serves no purpose other than road kills
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Learning heh? They got chance to learn meh? University also got bomb now talking about learn.
Where you want to learn in that 3 storey wall open prison?

They got nothing to waste. They don't need your sympathy either. Fight or no fight your cars still lenyek them.

Yet sympathy still towards the car drivers. *Humanity restored*






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QUOTE(Carellia @ Aug 7 2014, 05:57 AM)
Only 28 people in the last 14 years have been killed by Palestinian rockets, Israel has killed 500+ just in the weekend of July 19-21:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_r...tacks_on_Israel

ALSO:


Hoax alert: Video showing “Hamas using children as human shields” is from Syria
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-ab...n-shields-syria

Check your facts first please before spitting your opinion.
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stop comparing death counts la. It only shows Palestine is the real loser that should surrender yet they are dragging it out.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour took out few thousand Americans yet US nukes took out 100,000s Japanese civilians. Oppression on Japan then? #SaveJapan ?

In the end, a war is a war. US knew they were wrong dropping nuke but they did it anyway because it's WAR. There is no right or wrong. Picking sides because of humanitarian reasons is just stupid and meaningless.

If anything, both Hamas and Zionist should be condemned for not reaching a peace deal until now, instead we see a glorification of Hamas' actions doh.gif
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that's enough
coming Friday I will go to McD to offer them support

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Young magneto, proven.

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Aug 7 2014, 01:00 PM)
Young magneto, proven.

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maybe in 30 years xmen remake , magneto come from palestine
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that's enough
coming Friday I will go to McD to offer them support

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why their brotherhood thing WILL ALWAYS drag till racial issues in Malaysia. This is driving me crazy. What we done until they want to bunuh bunuh??? Why don't just they BUKA MATA BESAR BESAR see the race of the workers and the manager of MacDonald itself before saying an immature yet stupid statement. And why only say cina? Only cina eat inside is it. Be clear what to be said in the Facebook.
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why their brotherhood thing WILL ALWAYS drag till racial issues in Malaysia. This is driving me crazy. What we done until they want to bunuh bunuh??? Why don't just they BUKA MATA BESAR BESAR see the race of the workers and the manager of MacDonald itself before saying an immature yet stupid statement. And why only say cina? Only cina eat inside is it. Be clear what to be said in the Facebook.
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sadly there will be some retard in any group. just ignore la, why all highlight racist only but the campaign is to end the zionist occupation and save innocent lives no support. this is driving me crazy rclxub.gif
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That is why they say "Never again". This is the case where the bullied become the bully.. but for a damn good reason coz in the real world only the strong survived.
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 7 2014, 12:48 PM)
stop comparing death counts la. It only shows Palestine is the real loser that should surrender yet they are dragging it out.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour took out few thousand Americans yet US nukes took out 100,000s Japanese civilians. Oppression on Japan then? #SaveJapan ?

In the end, a war is a war. US knew they were wrong dropping nuke but they did it anyway because it's WAR. There is no right or wrong. Picking sides because of humanitarian reasons is just stupid and meaningless.

If anything, both Hamas and Zionist should be condemned for not reaching a peace deal until now, instead we see a glorification of Hamas' actions  doh.gif
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stop comparing death counts la. It only shows Palestine is the real loser that should surrender yet they are dragging it out.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour took out few thousand Americans yet US nukes took out 100,000s Japanese civilians. Oppression on Japan then? #SaveJapan ?

In the end, a war is a war. US knew they were wrong dropping nuke but they did it anyway because it's WAR. There is no right or wrong. Picking sides because of humanitarian reasons is just stupid and meaningless.

If anything, both Hamas and Zionist should be condemned for not reaching a peace deal until now, instead we see a glorification of Hamas' actions  doh.gif
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Agreed 100%
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ok during war then come "holocaust" zionist til today keep harping on it and using it to cover their crimes how?
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https://www.facebook.com/frensofbn/photos/a...4219998/?type=1

As for me, boycott is acceptable. But flashmob, and hatred driven crime, I think Zionist has done a good job poisoning some stupid Bolehlanders.

I wish both side destroyed to ashes, so they can start again...
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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Aug 7 2014, 12:27 PM)
Learning heh? They got chance to learn meh? University also got bomb now talking about learn.
Where you want to learn in that 3 storey wall open prison?

They got nothing to waste. They don't need your sympathy either.  Fight or no fight your cars still lenyek them.

Yet sympathy still towards the car drivers. *Humanity restored*
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Chance to learn?
Answer this honest question. Did they try?

Nothing to waste? They're wasting their own lives. That's what they're doing right now.

What sympathy? Do they need yours? I for one know for sure they don't give a dipshit about who you are and what sympathies you give to them neither. Don't pull that into any equation.

It's not my car, don't put me into the driver seat.
But if you're thinking that throwing stones at the car is ok, you got much more blood on you than you think.
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ok during war then come "holocaust" zionist til today keep harping on it and using it to cover their crimes how?
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No how. They can do it because they hold the bigger gun and have the economic strength to back it up. No one say the winner of the war will always be morally correct 100% of the time. They have their valid reason to defend themselves but they also commit many war crimes in between. Every damn war is the same.... its just how war is.

I guess the world is bored listening to this two b****es fight.
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Aug 7 2014, 01:54 PM)
ok during war then come "holocaust" zionist til today keep harping on it and using it to cover their crimes how?
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The Holocaust was an anti-Semitism thing, a genocide. The Nazi was selectively killing Jews across Europe, even Jews in Germany their own homeland. Nothing much to argue there. If Israel were to launch a Holocaust type of attack against Palestine, Palestinian would most probably been wiped out by now. Israel isn't stupid to do that though, they wouldn't last a minute in the courts for war crimes.

How does Zionist cover their "crimes" with the Holocaust anyway? I'm abit in the dark about that.

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Aug 7 2014, 12:57 PM)
that's enough
coming Friday I will go to McD to offer them support

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doh.gif That fb comment

Looks like McD time too... hash browns ~ bfast time ._. tommorow
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I don't know if you're dreaming but you are

Circulating info among Malaysians.

You cry, you propagate.....

Still among Malaysians.

You try so hard yet

It's among Malaysians.

Nothing is change in Israel
Nothing is change in Palestine.

Sedar lah wahai Moslems.

Korang macam masih tidur lagi.





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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 7 2014, 03:49 PM)
I don't know if you're dreaming but you are

Circulating info among Malaysians.

You cry, you propagate.....

Still among Malaysians.

You try so hard yet

It's among Malaysians.

Nothing is change in Israel
Nothing is change in Palestine.

Sedar lah wahai Moslems.

Korang macam masih tidur lagi.
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I don't know if you're dreaming but you are

Circulating info among Malaysians.

You cry, you propagate.....

Still among Malaysians.

You try so hard yet

It's among Malaysians.

Nothing is change in Israel
Nothing is change in Palestine.

Sedar lah wahai Moslems.

Korang macam masih tidur lagi.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 7 2014, 03:49 PM)
I don't know if you're dreaming but you are

Circulating info among Malaysians.

You cry, you propagate.....

Still among Malaysians.

You try so hard yet

It's among Malaysians.

Nothing is change in Israel
Nothing is change in Palestine.

Sedar lah wahai Moslems.

Korang macam masih tidur lagi.
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Well, count me in among the number who intend to eat at McD tmr even though I don't normally do so - just to spite those armchair activists with their silly baseless campaigns, trying to pretend like they're all very caring and humanitarian by doing some pointless activity while criticizing the rest for not joining in.

Still not going to patronize Starbucks though...crap coffee is crap coffee...
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Well, count me in among the number who intend to eat at McD tmr even though I don't normally do so - just to spite those armchair activists with their silly baseless campaigns, trying to pretend like they're all very caring and humanitarian by doing some pointless activity while criticizing the rest for not joining in.

Still not going to patronize Starbucks though...crap coffee is crap coffee...
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macdonald is not good for health.
BUT IS VERY WRONG FOR THEIR ACTION THOUGH.
I will still support MCD because there is still no solid prove that showed them support the wrong thing.
MCD do help me in save up some money during some time......
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 7 2014, 08:48 AM)
stop comparing death counts la. It only shows Palestine is the real loser that should surrender yet they are dragging it out.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour took out few thousand Americans yet US nukes took out 100,000s Japanese civilians. Oppression on Japan then? #SaveJapan ?

In the end, a war is a war. US knew they were wrong dropping nuke but they did it anyway because it's WAR. There is no right or wrong. Picking sides because of humanitarian reasons is just stupid and meaningless.

If anything, both Hamas and Zionist should be condemned for not reaching a peace deal until now, instead we see a glorification of Hamas' actions  doh.gif
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LOL

Peace deal?

HAMAS REFUSED OUR PEACE OFFER:
Hamas refused because the deal "did not deal with some of the group's major demands: a conclusive end of Israel and Egypt's blockade on Gaza, and the release of certain prisoners from Israeli jails."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/...re-israel-hamas

Hamas' own peace deal offered to Israel included the following:
>lifting the siege of Gaza
>economic development of the territory
>UN supervision of borders, crossings, the airport and seaport
>easing conditions for permits to pray at Jerusalem's Al Aqsa mosque
>respect for the national reconciliation deal
>and the freeing of Palestinians detained since the abduction and killing of three Israeli teenagers last month

Not exactly unreasonable.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2...3840867406.html


and you know how lethal dem rockets that palestinians launch to dem Israel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqiHchsbE0

Yeahhhh Israel so nice go go Jew!
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LOL

Peace deal?

HAMAS REFUSED OUR PEACE OFFER:
Hamas refused because the deal "did not deal with some of the group's major demands: a conclusive end of Israel and Egypt's blockade on Gaza, and the release of certain prisoners from Israeli jails."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/...re-israel-hamas

Hamas' own peace deal offered to Israel included the following:
>lifting the siege of Gaza
>economic development of the territory
>UN supervision of borders, crossings, the airport and seaport
>easing conditions for permits to pray at Jerusalem's Al Aqsa mosque
>respect for the national reconciliation deal
>and the freeing of Palestinians detained since the abduction and killing of three Israeli teenagers last month

Not exactly unreasonable.
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Doesn't mean it's reasonable to you Israel feels the same way. They may feel that demands breaches national security for them.

Hamas rejected peace talks for no reason too. "Refuse to cease fire until Israel is wiped out". Not entirely peaceful and fault free aren't we

QUOTE(Carellia @ Aug 7 2014, 05:32 PM)
and you know how lethal dem rockets that palestinians launch to dem Israel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqiHchsbE0

Yeahhhh Israel so nice go go Jew!
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Cherry pick videos all you want. In the end of the day, you are just lying to yourself. Hamas is a huge reason they are at war now.
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ehem.. let me ask again.
anyone remember how and why this war start?
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Doesn't mean it's reasonable to you Israel feels the same way. They may feel that demands breaches national security for them.

Hamas rejected peace talks for no reason too. "Refuse to cease fire until Israel is wiped out". Not entirely peaceful and fault free aren't we
Cherry pick videos all you want. In the end of the day, you are just lying to yourself. Hamas is a huge reason they are at war now.
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I give you the facts and you give me non. OK bro. WE can never reach an agreement I guess. I wish you a good health and life.
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ehem.. let me ask again.
anyone remember how and why this war start?
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Its started thousands of years ago coz the Jewish didnt want to convert to Christianity....
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Its started thousands of years ago coz the Jewish didnt want to convert to Christianity....
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I give you the facts and you give me non. OK bro. WE can never reach an agreement I guess. I wish you a good health and life.
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Which fact?

You meant to your opinion. You think it's not a unreasonable offer for Israel to accept I don't. Same can be said with Hamas then. Israel wants Hamas to dismantle those tunnel and lay down their arms. Sounds reasonable to me, why didn't Hamas accept it? zomg warmongersss fact here


Or the other "fact" that Palestine only shoots duds to Israel. Yeah sure, Israel bombs are meant only to kill innocents, Palestine rockets showers Israel with flowers, love and carebears
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Ytd went to tapao grilled chicken burger original. After gone back home, opened the box. Box is original box, but inside is spicy.

Will not patron McD until this silly boycott campaign is over, ever (I guess that is what they wanted too, lesser ppl patronizing, less work for them, since McD always been buzzed during dining hours).
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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Aug 7 2014, 02:09 PM)
Chance to learn?
Answer this honest question. Did they try?

Nothing to waste? They're wasting their own lives. That's what they're doing right now.

What sympathy? Do they need yours? I for one know for sure they don't give a dipshit about who you are and what sympathies you give to them neither. Don't pull that into any equation.

It's not my car, don't put me into the driver seat.
But if you're thinking that throwing stones at the car is ok, you got much more blood on you than you think.
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hello sir, didnt you read news how many schools and universities destroyed by Israel during this operation? With the existence of the universities and school, doesnt it an evidence that they been trying to learn for the past 60years?
Tell me how they could move further with 2/3 years once of bombing like this no other country can tahan.

They dont need my sympathy either, nor yours. t.But they know they have supports from their brothers far away from middle east (dont ask boring question why nearest brothers buat pekak ok) Our NGO keep sending medicine and aids to them. They know our existence.

As I said, to fight or not to fight, to throw stone or not to throw stone, your the cars still lenyek them till die. The very kind neighbour a.k.a drivers will still find reason (for e.g missing soldier, died teenagers etc etc etc) to send them bomb once in a while.

Their lives means nothing to the cars..so whats wrong to fight them back?


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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 7 2014, 02:22 PM)
Which fact?

You meant to your opinion. You think it's not a unreasonable offer for Israel to accept I don't. Same can be said with Hamas then. Israel wants Hamas to dismantle those tunnel and lay down their arms. Sounds reasonable to me, why didn't Hamas accept it? zomg warmongersss fact here
Or the other "fact" that Palestine only shoots duds to Israel. Yeah sure, Israel bombs are meant only to kill innocents, Palestine rockets showers Israel with flowers, love and carebears
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Well, count me in among the number who intend to eat at McD tmr even though I don't normally do so - just to spite those armchair activists with their silly baseless campaigns, trying to pretend like they're all very caring and humanitarian by doing some pointless activity while criticizing the rest for not joining in.

Still not going to patronize Starbucks though...crap coffee is crap coffee...
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Go on eat tomolo, next day, next week and so on. No one stop u meh.

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if israel dont even want to obey ICJ rulling why they want to accept those hamas offer...
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In Israel, Jews are fearing Arab stores. Even takut to go to their favourite stalls because goverment call for boycott.

Meanwhile elsewhere in the world, teenagers threatening to kill a bus of Jewish schoolchildren.
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In Israel, Jews are fearing Arab stores. Even takut to go to their favourite stalls because goverment call for boycott.

Meanwhile elsewhere in the world, teenagers threatening to kill a bus of Jewish schoolchildren.
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I see. They got boycott also meh?

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I see. They got boycott also meh?
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Yes, recently. They're scared that the pro-Hamas Arabs will fund the money there.

Of course everyone is going to be scared if all they hear DEATH TO ALL JEWS all day long from everywhere. So many pro-palestinians threaten to kill ordinary American Jewish families who don't have a part in the war.

If want to enact justice, choose the right people la.
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Yes, recently. They're scared that the pro-Hamas Arabs will fund the money there.

Of course everyone is going to be scared if all they  hear DEATH TO ALL JEWS all day long from everywhere. So many pro-palestinians threaten to kill ordinary American Jewish families who don't have a part in the war.

If want to enact justice, choose the right people la.
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All they want is kill kill kill. Why no other better point or ways? What they want actually? Always kill kill kill, they think they still in 20 - 30 B.C ??
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All they want is kill kill kill. Why no other better point or ways? What they want actually? Always kill kill kill, they think they still in 20 - 30 B.C ??
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Now tak pasal pasal want to kill Chinese because we eat at McD
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Now tak pasal pasal want to kill Chinese because we eat at McD
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save your petty victim sentiment elsewhere, the threat that the palestinian faced are more then just threat its mass genocide and opposition. the jews who cry telling people that they are the victims are far worse oppressor that the nazi before. they exact aggression without any remorse. the view arabs and other goy as same level as animals...

so you think that your life is under threat just because of some random internet threat from trollers all iver the net.
owh please

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Now tak pasal pasal want to kill Chinese because we eat at McD
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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Aug 7 2014, 10:04 PM)
save your petty victim sentiment elsewhere, the threat that the palestinian faced are more then just threat its mass genocide and opposition. the jews who cry telling people that they are the victims are far worse oppressor that the nazi before. they exact aggression without any remorse. the view arabs and other goy as same level as animals...

so you think that your life is under threat just because of some random internet threat from trollers all iver the net.
owh please
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so lets help Palestinians defend themselves from IDF.

erm.. how?

all i see is they go make rockets to shoot...
thats offense..very weak one...

but wheres the defense? no anti missle launchers?

no anti tank and anti personnel launchers?

hmmm how la?

go attack israel but zero defense... maybe hamas very stupid ya.
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so lets help Palestinians defend themselves from IDF.

erm.. how?

all i see is they go make rockets to shoot...
thats offense..very weak one...

but wheres the defense? no anti missle launchers?

no anti tank and anti personnel launchers?

hmmm how la?

go attack israel but zero defense... maybe hamas very stupid ya.
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you can boycott israel,
make that Israel to think twice about the repercussion of continual oppression towards palestinian.
make the gaza plight heard, become the witness.... and best of all never forget what happened. The oppressor love when whatever their history is the bad one were erased by time, making them invincible and continue on their criminal action over and over again

although hamas in its very stupid reaction to launch rocket just to worsen the situation, but it is still their plight for freedom,

Israel has been oppressing palestine way before hamas was created, it is all begin because of the aggression by the zionist.
this crisis has been happening for about 6 decades... anyone pointing out finger on palestine being the oppressor rather than the israel have a very short term memory.
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israHELL! israHELL! israHELL!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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today MCD so little people. Only 1% Malay. The rest all non malay. Lunch time 1pm still can find many place to seat at McD. hahahaha
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PALATstink PALATstink PALATstink!!
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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Aug 7 2014, 11:36 PM)
you can boycott israel,
make that Israel to think twice about the repercussion of continual oppression towards palestinian.
make the gaza plight heard, become the witness.... and best of all never forget what happened. The oppressor love when whatever their history is the bad one were erased by time, making them invincible and continue on their criminal action over and over again

although hamas in its very stupid reaction to launch rocket just to worsen the situation, but it is still their plight for freedom,

Israel has been oppressing palestine way before hamas was created, it is all begin because of the aggression by the zionist.
this crisis has been happening for about 6 decades... anyone pointing out finger on palestine being the oppressor rather than the israel have a very short term memory.
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in war, you never ever launch an attack without first thinking about a good defense or the livelihood of your citizens.
an attack without a good defense only works if your offense completely wipes out your enemy.
but such is not the case.

Israel's attack isn't unprovoked. They had waited out after thousands of rockets being shot at them.

for hamas to attack without conscience and consideration of the consequence and safety of their citizens, is very irresponsible and cruel. like a general blinded in hatred and revenge, which only consumes him and his kingdom into ashes.

do it wise, seek international aid and help. when you drop the rockets and guns and trade it for food water, etc...life will be better in gaza.

and the burden will be on israel to pull back as there is no reason for them to oppress anymore...since israel have no intention to colonize palestine.

then and only then, boycotts would be in massive scale than what you have now.
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i wanna see those malaysia join the hamas forces warrior rather than a keyboard warrior since they are palestine hardcore supporter.
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For HAMAS lovers in this forum, pls dont be angry if u see non-muslim eat at so called zionist places today. U would be surprised that many of them dont know what palestine and israel are. They just live their lives .
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agreed, its their choice...
not trying force or anything...

but living and be oblivious about the state of the world is not something to be proud at
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QUOTE(fnm83 @ Aug 7 2014, 08:22 PM)
McDonald's need people like you to pay their workers wage.
Go on eat tomolo, next day, next week and so on. No one stop u meh.
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Obviously, you have poor English comprehension. rolleyes.gif

What part of 'don't normally do so' do you not understand? doh.gif

I'm going tmr specially because of the boycott. flex.gif
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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Aug 8 2014, 12:12 AM)
agreed, its their choice...
not trying force or anything...

but living and be oblivious about the state of the world is not something to be proud at
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neither is living in delusional state of themselves, no matter how many share the same delusion, is something to be proud of either.

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Israel has been oppressing palestine way before hamas was created, it is all begin because of the aggression by the zionist.

this is one of the delusion, around 1000bc the place now called Palestine was inhabited by jews. the two big occupiers were the romans and the arabs occupations of Palestine. recent times the ottoman then british, french, etc. the jewish homeland was taken away through warfare and prosecution, and israel wasn't "re-form" peacefully either.

before hamas there was other terror organizations, including the surrounding arab nations, attacking to destroy israel and its peoples.

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Aug 8 2014, 12:12 AM)
agreed, its their choice...
not trying force or anything...

but living and be oblivious about the state of the world is not something to be proud at
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but. But. But. Got pipu say want bunuh bunuh wor...
Hamas pipu got pipu across country help them boycott this and that, where got pipu help us wor. Some more is Malaysian who say want bunuh bunuh. Aiksssssss. U say la... We just want save money using mcsaver only... Also that hard mehhhhhhhhh

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this is one of the delusion, around 1000bc the place now called Palestine was inhabited by jews. the two big occupiers were the romans and the arabs occupations of Palestine. recent times the ottoman then british, french, etc. the jewish homeland was taken away through warfare and prosecution, and israel wasn't "re-form" peacefully either.

before hamas there was other terror organizations, including the surrounding arab nations, attacking to destroy israel and its peoples.
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none of those jews who lived during that time ever lived till this day.but the indigenous palestine are. dont give me that crap that you can claim heritage of a land just because your ancestor lived there for thousand of years....if thats the case you should pack your bags now because your ancestor doesnt live here long enough to ever have the right to breathe this same air.... how would you feel about that?
most of the jews during the middle ages either left the land or converted to islam. but still there is left few of them still practicing judaism.

you have deluded yourself from the fact that the zionist who now lived in israel are the direct descendent of the children of israel... most of them are not semitic, they're probably descendent from khazar jew who converted into judaism rather than direct line of abraham....

when you introduce something foreign en masse to the local indigenous group of people of course there will be retaliation...
israel stole lands and oppress the land owner... are you that thick to recognize this?

so whose delusional now? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(arubin @ Aug 8 2014, 01:46 AM)
Obviously, you have poor English comprehension. rolleyes.gif

What part of 'don't normally do so' do you not understand? doh.gif

I'm going tmr specially because of the boycott. flex.gif
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Hello abang,
Nothing to do with English comprehension here. I don't care how often u eat at mekdi pon.
My message is mekdi need people like you - who eat at mekdi today or tomorrow or next week or so on - to pay their workers.

I haven't eat mekdi for few months already. Not because boycott - i don't boycott anything anyway - but just because simply me and my family don't like it.



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but. But. But. Got pipu say want bunuh bunuh wor...
Hamas pipu got pipu across country help them boycott this and that, where got pipu help us wor. Some more is Malaysian who say want bunuh bunuh. Aiksssssss. U say la... We just want save money using mcsaver only... Also that hard mehhhhhhhhh
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i dont understand your retarded words...

go on feast on McD, see what good does it do to your brain
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Today boycott confirm ESOk makan mcd.

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i dont understand your retarded words...

go on feast on McD, see what good does it do to your brain
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Excuse me, you are so over self protected and choose not to understand my statement. I do agree those fast food do bring more harm than good to our body system. But, what we should view from this point is that the attitude of those who doing the boycott activity. What's on earth is there any necessary to bring up any statement that involve the killing word to those non Muslim who having their meal in MacDonald? I believe if this statement is out from a non boycott person, I think there is high chances for the people being charged under sedition act. Do you ever get what I mean? I was like, grow up folks, do you think if the MacDonald franchise in whole Malaysia BEING COMPLETELY TURNED DOWN will bring any solution toward the latest crisis? Boycott is your right, but your right is not including forcing people to be with you as well as destroying MacDonald premises.
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Excuse me, you are so over self protected and choose not to understand my statement. I do agree those fast food do bring more harm than good to our body system. But, what we should view from this point is that the attitude of those who doing the boycott activity. What's on earth is there any necessary to bring up any statement that involve the killing word to those non Muslim who having their meal in MacDonald? I believe if this statement is out from a non boycott person, I think there is high chances for the people being charged under sedition act. Do you ever get what I mean? I was like, grow up folks, do you think if the MacDonald franchise in whole Malaysia BEING COMPLETELY TURNED DOWN will bring any solution toward the latest crisis? Boycott is your right, but your right is not including forcing people to be with you as well as destroying MacDonald premises.
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im not those retarded who destroy people properties... save your own predicament judging to someone who really done it
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im not those retarded who destroy people properties... save your own predicament judging to someone who really done it
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yea, I do sound like generalizing at the statement above, but I hope you are not the one who will shield them.
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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Aug 8 2014, 09:45 AM)
none of those jews who lived during that time ever lived till this day.but the indigenous palestine are. dont give me that crap that you can claim heritage of a land just because your ancestor lived there for thousand of years....if thats the case you should pack your bags now because your ancestor doesnt live here long enough to ever have the right to breathe this same air.... how would you feel about that?
most of the jews during the middle ages either left the land or converted to islam. but still there is left few of them still practicing judaism.

you have deluded yourself from the fact that the zionist who now lived in israel are the direct descendent of the children of israel... most of them are not semitic, they're probably descendent from khazar jew who converted into judaism rather than direct line of abraham....

when you introduce something foreign en masse to the local indigenous group of people of course there will be retaliation...
israel stole lands and oppress the land owner... are you that thick to recognize this?

so whose delusional now? tongue.gif
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1. you have not addressed on the point which you are wrong (deluded) about. which is the "new" existence of hamas and israel has been oppressing palestinians since when? 1 month ago? 10 years ago? go read up some middle-east history and history of the region 3000 years back. this is not entirely "my case". it is a vital factor why they want to be there, just as much as arabs who called themselves "palestinian" a few decades back to tie themselves back to the time the area was named "palestine" which means palestinian are also creating legitimacy based on ancestry. if palestinian's ancestry is valid why not the same for the jews?

2. no, if you checked my post previously it is clear that the jewish people living in israel today are inclusive of immigrants from europe, etc. etc. but you can't deny the fact there were always jewish peoples who did not entirely vacate the area since 1000bc. you also have not acknowledge that arabs were the conquerors of this area, as were the romans before them. as were the ottomans. as were the british.

how is today any different from layers of conquests? obviously not much.

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Are you "pro-Israel" or "pro-Palestine"? It isn't even noon yet as I write this, and I've already been accused of being both.

These terms intrigue me because they directly speak to the doggedly tribal nature of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. You don't hear of too many other countries being universally spoken of this way. Why these two? Both Israelis and Palestinians are complex, with diverse histories and cultures, and two incredibly similar (if divisive) religions. To come down completely on the side of one or the other doesn't seem rational to me.

It is telling that most Muslims around the world support Palestinians, and most Jews support Israel. This, of course, is natural -- but it's also problematic. It means that this is not about who's right or wrong as much as which tribe or nation you are loyal to. It means that Palestinian supporters would be just as ardently pro-Israel if they were born in Israeli or Jewish families, and vice versa. It means that the principles that guide most people's view of this conflict are largely accidents of birth -- that however we intellectualize and analyze the components of the Middle East mess, it remains, at its core, a tribal conflict.

By definition, tribal conflicts thrive and survive when people take sides. Choosing sides in these kinds of conflicts fuels them further and deepens the polarization. And worst of all, you get blood on your hands.

So before picking a side in this latest Israeli-Palestine conflict, consider these 7 questions:

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1. Why is everything so much worse when there are Jews involved?

Over 700 people have died in Gaza as of this writing. Muslims have woken up around the world. But is it really because of the numbers?

Bashar al-Assad has killed over 180,000 Syrians, mostly Muslim, in two years -- more than the number killed in Palestine in two decades. Thousands of Muslims in Iraq and Syria have been killed by ISIS in the last two months. Tens of thousands have been killed by the Taliban. Half a million black Muslims were killed by Arab Muslims in Sudan. The list goes on.

But Gaza makes Muslims around the world, both Sunni and Shia, speak up in a way they never do otherwise. Up-to-date death counts and horrific pictures of the mangled corpses of Gazan children flood their social media timelines every day. If it was just about the numbers, wouldn't the other conflicts take precedence? What is it about then?

If I were Assad or ISIS right now, I'd be thanking God I'm not Jewish.

Amazingly, many of the graphic images of dead children attributed to Israeli bombardment that are circulating online are from Syria, based on a BBC report. Many of the pictures you're seeing are of children killed by Assad, who is supported by Iran, which also funds Hezbollah and Hamas. What could be more exploitative of dead children than attributing the pictures of innocents killed by your own supporters to your enemy simply because you weren't paying enough attention when your own were killing your own?

This doesn't, by any means, excuse the recklessness, negligence, and sometimes outright cruelty of Israeli forces. But it clearly points to the likelihood that the Muslim world's opposition to Israel isn't just about the number of dead.

Here is a question for those who grew up in the Middle East and other Muslim-majority countries like I did: if Israel withdrew from the occupied territories tomorrow, all in one go -- and went back to the 1967 borders -- and gave the Palestinians East Jerusalem -- do you honestly think Hamas wouldn't find something else to pick a fight about? Do you honestly think that this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they are Jews? Do you recall what you watched and heard on public TV growing up in Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Egypt?

Yes, there's an unfair and illegal occupation there, and yes, it's a human rights disaster. But it is also true that much of the other side is deeply driven by anti-Semitism. Anyone who has lived in the Arab/Muslim world for more than a few years knows that. It isn't always a clean, one-or-the-other blame split in these situations like your Chomskys and Greenwalds would have you believe. It's both.

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2. Why does everyone keep saying this is not a religious conflict?

There are three pervasive myths that are widely circulated about the "roots" of the Middle East conflict:

Myth 1: Judaism has nothing to do with Zionism.
Myth 2: Islam has nothing to do with Jihadism or anti-Semitism.
Myth 3: This conflict has nothing to do with religion.

To the "I oppose Zionism, not Judaism!" crowd, is it mere coincidence that this passage from the Old Testament (emphasis added) describes so accurately what's happening today?

"I will establish your borders from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean Sea, and from the desert to the Euphrates River. I will give into your hands the people who live in the land, and you will drive them out before you. Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods." - Exodus 23:31-32
Or this one?

"See, I have given you this land. Go in and take possession of the land the Lord swore he would give to your fathers -- to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- and to their descendants after them." - Deuteronomy 1:8
There's more: Genesis 15:18-21, and Numbers 34 for more detail on the borders. Zionism is not the "politicization" or "distortion" of Judaism. It is the revival of it.

And to the "This is not about Islam, it's about politics!" crowd, is this verse from the Quran (emphasis added) meaningless?

"O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you--then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people." - Quran, 5:51
What about the numerous verses and hadith quoted in Hamas' charter? And the famous hadith of the Gharqad tree explicitly commanding Muslims to kill Jews?

Please tell me -- in light of these passages written centuries and millennia before the creation of Israel or the occupation -- how can anyone conclude that religion isn't at the root of this, or at least a key driving factor? You may roll your eyes at these verses, but they are taken very seriously by many of the players in this conflict, on both sides. Shouldn't they be acknowledged and addressed? When is the last time you heard a good rational, secular argument supporting settlement expansion in the West Bank?

Denying religion's role seems to be a way to be able to criticize the politics while remaining apologetically "respectful" of people's beliefs for fear of "offending" them. But is this apologism and "respect" for inhuman ideas worth the deaths of human beings?

People have all kinds of beliefs -- from insisting the Earth is flat to denying the Holocaust. You may respect their right to hold these beliefs, but you're not obligated to respect the beliefs themselves. It's 2014, and religions don't need to be "respected" any more than any other political ideology or philosophical thought system. Human beings have rights. Ideas don't. The oft-cited politics/religion dichotomy in Abrahamic religions is false and misleading. All of the Abrahamic religions are inherently political.

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3. Why would Israel deliberately want to kill civilians?

This is the single most important issue that gets everyone riled up, and rightfully so.

Again, there is no justification for innocent Gazans dying. And there's no excuse for Israel's negligence in incidents like the killing of four children on a Gazan beach. But let's back up and think about this for a minute.

Why on Earth would Israel deliberately want to kill civilians?

When civilians die, Israel looks like a monster. It draws the ire of even its closest allies. Horrific images of injured and dead innocents flood the media. Ever-growing anti-Israel protests are held everywhere from Norway to New York. And the relatively low number of Israeli casualties (we'll get to that in a bit) repeatedly draws allegations of a "disproportionate" response. Most importantly, civilian deaths help Hamas immensely.

How can any of this possibly ever be in Israel's interest?

If Israel wanted to kill civilians, it is terrible at it. ISIS killed more civilians in two days (700 plus) than Israel has in two weeks. Imagine if ISIS or Hamas had Israel's weapons, army, air force, US support, and nuclear arsenal. Their enemies would've been annihilated long ago. If Israel truly wanted to destroy Gaza, it could do so within a day, right from the air. Why carry out a more painful, expensive ground incursion that risks the lives of its soldiers?

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4. Does Hamas really use its own civilians as human shields?

Ask Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas how he feels about Hamas' tactics.

"What are you trying to achieve by sending rockets?" he asks. "I don't like trading in Palestinian blood."

It isn't just speculation anymore that Hamas puts its civilians in the line of fire.

Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri plainly admitted on Gazan national TV that the human shield strategy has proven "very effective."

The UN relief organization UNRWA issued a furious condemnation of Hamas after discovering hidden rockets in not one, but two children's schools in Gaza last week.

Hamas fires thousands of rockets into Israel, rarely killing any civilians or causing any serious damage. It launches them from densely populated areas, including hospitals and schools.

Why launch rockets without causing any real damage to the other side, inviting great damage to your own people, then putting your own civilians in the line of fire when the response comes? Even when the IDF warns civilians to evacuate their homes before a strike, why does Hamas tell them to stay put?

Because Hamas knows its cause is helped when Gazans die. If there is one thing that helps Hamas most -- one thing that gives it any legitimacy -- it is dead civilians. Rockets in schools. Hamas exploits the deaths of its children to gain the world's sympathy. It uses them as a weapon.

You don't have to like what Israel is doing to abhor Hamas. Arguably, Israel and Fatah are morally equivalent. Both have a lot of right on their side. Hamas, on the other hand, doesn't have a shred of it.

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5. Why are people asking for Israel to end the "occupation" in Gaza?

Because they have short memories.

In 2005, Israel ended the occupation in Gaza. It pulled out every last Israeli soldier. It dismantled every last settlement. Many Israeli settlers who refused to leave were forcefully evicted from their homes, kicking and screaming.

This was a unilateral move by Israel, part of a disengagement plan intended to reduce friction between Israelis and Palestinians. It wasn't perfect -- Israel was still to control Gaza's borders, coastline, and airspace -- but considering the history of the region, it was a pretty significant first step.

After the evacuation, Israel opened up border crossings to facilitate commerce. The Palestinians were also given 3,000 greenhouses which had already been producing fruit and flowers for export for many years.

But Hamas chose not to invest in schools, trade, or infrastructure. Instead, it built an extensive network of tunnels to house thousands upon thousands of rockets and weapons, including newer, sophisticated ones from Iran and Syria. All the greenhouses were destroyed.

Hamas did not build any bomb shelters for its people. It did, however, build a few for its leaders to hide out in during airstrikes. Civilians are not given access to these shelters for precisely the same reason Hamas tells them to stay home when the bombs come.

Gaza was given a great opportunity in 2005 that Hamas squandered by transforming it into an anti-Israel weapons store instead of a thriving Palestinian state that, with time, may have served as a model for the future of the West Bank as well. If Fatah needed yet another reason to abhor Hamas, here it was.

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6. Why are there so many more casualties in Gaza than in Israel?

The reason fewer Israeli civilians die is not because there are fewer rockets raining down on them. It's because they are better protected by their government.

When Hamas' missiles head towards Israel, sirens go off, the Iron Dome goes into effect, and civilians are rushed into bomb shelters. When Israeli missiles head towards Gaza, Hamas tells civilians to stay in their homes and face them.

While Israel's government urges its civilians to get away from rockets targeted at them, Gaza's government urges its civilians to get in front of missiles not targeted at them.

The popular explanation for this is that Hamas is poor and lacks the resources to protect its people like Israel does. The real reason, however, seems to have more to do with disordered priorities than deficient resources (see #5). This is about will, not ability. All those rockets, missiles, and tunnels aren't cheap to build or acquire. But they are priorities. And it's not like Palestinians don't have a handful of oil-rich neighbors to help them the way Israel has the US.

The problem is, if civilian casualties in Gaza drop, Hamas loses the only weapon it has in its incredibly effective PR war. It is in Israel's national interest to protect its civilians and minimize the deaths of those in Gaza. It is in Hamas' interest to do exactly the opposite on both fronts.

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7. If Hamas is so bad, why isn't everyone pro-Israel in this conflict?

Because Israel's flaws, while smaller in number, are massive in impact.

Many Israelis seem to have the same tribal mentality that their Palestinian counterparts do. They celebrate the bombing of Gaza the same way many Arabs celebrated 9/11. A UN report recently found that Israeli forces tortured Palestinian children and used them as human shields. They beat up teenagers. They are often reckless with their airstrikes. They have academics who explain how rape may be the only truly effective weapon against their enemy. And many of them callously and publicly revel in the deaths of innocent Palestinian children.

To be fair, these kinds of things do happen on both sides. They are an inevitable consequence of multiple generations raised to hate the other over the course of 65 plus years. To hold Israel up to a higher standard would mean approaching the Palestinians with the racism of lowered expectations.

However, if Israel holds itself to a higher standard like it claims -- it needs to do much more to show it isn't the same as the worst of its neighbors.

Israel is leading itself towards increasing international isolation and national suicide because of two things: 1. The occupation; and 2. Settlement expansion.

Settlement expansion is simply incomprehensible. No one really understands the point of it. Virtually every US administration -- from Nixon to Bush to Obama -- has unequivocally opposed it. There is no justification for it except a Biblical one (see #2), which makes it slightly more difficult to see Israel's motives as purely secular.

The occupation is more complicated. The late Christopher Hitchens was right when he said this about Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories:

"In order for Israel to become part of the alliance against whatever we want to call it, religious barbarism, theocratic, possibly thermonuclear theocratic or nuclear theocratic aggression, it can't, it'll have to dispense with the occupation. It's as simple as that.
It can be, you can think of it as a kind of European style, Western style country if you want, but it can't govern other people against their will. It can't continue to steal their land in the way that it does every day.And it's unbelievably irresponsible of Israelis, knowing the position of the United States and its allies are in around the world, to continue to behave in this unconscionable way. And I'm afraid I know too much about the history of the conflict to think of Israel as just a tiny, little island surrounded by a sea of ravening wolves and so on. I mean, I know quite a lot about how that state was founded, and the amount of violence and dispossession that involved. And I'm a prisoner of that knowledge. I can't un-know it."
As seen with Gaza in 2005, unilateral disengagement is probably easier to talk about than actually carry out. But if it Israel doesn't work harder towards a two-state (maybe three-state, thanks to Hamas) solution, it will eventually have to make that ugly choice between being a Jewish-majority state or a democracy.

It's still too early to call Israel an apartheid state, but when John Kerry said Israel could end up as one in the future, he wasn't completely off the mark. It's simple math. There are only a limited number of ways a bi-national Jewish state with a non-Jewish majority population can retain its Jewish identity. And none of them are pretty.

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Let's face it, the land belongs to both of them now. Israel was carved out of Palestine for Jews with help from the British in the late 1940s just like my own birthplace of Pakistan was carved out of India for Muslims around the same time. The process was painful, and displaced millions in both instances. But it's been almost 70 years. There are now at least two or three generations of Israelis who were born and raised in this land, to whom it really is a home, and who are often held accountable and made to pay for for historical atrocities that are no fault of their own. They are programmed to oppose "the other" just as Palestinian children are. At its very core, this is a tribal religious conflict that will never be resolved unless people stop choosing sides.

So you really don't have to choose between being "pro-Israel" or "pro-Palestine." If you support secularism, democracy, and a two-state solution -- and you oppose Hamas, settlement expansion, and the occupation -- you can be both.

If they keep asking you to pick a side after all of that, tell them you're going with hummus.
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1. you have not addressed on the point which you are wrong (deluded) about. which is the "new" existence of hamas and israel has been oppressing palestinians since when? 1 month ago? 10 years ago? go read up some middle-east history and history of the region 3000 years back. this is not entirely "my case". it is a vital factor why they want to be there, just as much as arabs who called themselves "palestinian" a few decades back to tie themselves back to the time the area was named "palestine" which means palestinian are also creating legitimacy based on ancestry. if palestinian's ancestry is valid why not the same for the jews?

2. no, if you checked my post previously it is clear that the jewish people living in israel today are inclusive of immigrants from europe, etc. etc. but you can't deny the fact there were always jewish peoples who did not entirely vacate the area since 1000bc. you also have not acknowledge that arabs were the conquerors of this area, as were the romans before them. as were the ottomans. as were the british.

how is today any different from layers of conquests? obviously not much.
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watch this till the end if you have time... may shed some light for you. true or not just think about it. he has a valid points,

pretty much very practical answer not some bullshitting taking excerpt from bible and all.


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there are many parallels between the two, and there are many more divergent differences between the two: one thing.. hamas is following the in the footsteps of the haganah but very, very extremely poorly.
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watch this till the end if you have time... may shed some light for you. true or not just think about it. he has a valid points,

pretty much very practical answer not some bullshitting taking excerpt from bible and all.


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there are many parallels between the two, and there are many more divergent differences between the two: one thing.. hamas is following the in the footsteps of the haganah but very, very extremely poorly.
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following the footsteps? maybe but the reason is totally the opposite, not grabbing form others but trying to fight back stolen land mah

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following the footsteps? maybe but the reason is totally the opposite, not grabbing form others but trying to fight back stolen land mah

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if you are arguing about the 1948 war and the 1967 war? i was referring to before 1948. remember who started these wars, and conflicts that happened up to 1948.

the footsteps i refer to is the steps taken by smaller group using guerrilla and terror tactics to achieve political goals.

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if you are arguing about the 1948 war and the 1967 war? i was referring to before 1948. remember who started these wars, and conflicts that happened up to 1948.

the footsteps i refer to is the steps taken by smaller group using guerrilla and terror tactics to achieve political goals.
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obviously israel started this whole mess when they declare independence doh.gif

then the massacre of palestinian villages and displacing them in order to create the illegal state, u think they ask those people nicely to leave their home ah?

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obviously israel started this whole mess when they declare independence  doh.gif

then the massacre of palestinian villages and displacing them in order to create the illegal state, u think they ask those people nicely to leave their home ah?

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you have to read up more...and not just accept everything from one side.
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so i assume no one knows who actually started all these until now?
kudos to all for arguing over something unknown.
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Ministry’s letterhead used for personal matter

Interesting comment -

Anonymous_1395686384: Dear Minister, Hamas is fighting for a Palestinian state just like what LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) did in seeking a separate homeland in Sri Lanka.

Both Hamas and LTTE have been labelled as terrorist organisations.

Yet the Malaysian government have jumped into the bandwagon by freezing their accounts, arresting their supporters and extraditing suspected ex-Tigers despite that the Sri Lankan government has massacred hundreds of thousand civilians.

All LTTE wanted was a place to call home just like the Palestinians.

Although the war has ended and LTTE is dead, the Malaysian government continues to hound suspected ex-Tigers on behalf of the Sri Lankan government which has been criticised for war crimes.

So why does Hamas get better treatment then LTTE and why doesn't Malaysia severe ties with Sri Lanka government for its state-sponsored terrorism?

Is it because of our commercial interests?

Also on the topic -

Naatamai: If it's his personal credit card how can he use the ministry's letterhead for his communication with the bank? This is gross misuse of government facilities.

Even if it’s sort of a "corporate" card issued by the government, shouldn't the chief secretary be the one cancelling it? Can someone enlighten us?

Negarawan: Sabri's HSBC credit card is his personal property. Indeed, why is he using the ministry's formal letterhead for his personal matters?

A minister should not abuse his ministry resources for personal use.

CucuMalaysia: Is this the first time the minister is using his ministry's letterhead for a personal matter?

I wonder how many times he had abused his position in this way and possibly other ways, too.

This act already fails him as a public servant. The Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) should take action.

And -

Sabahan: You should snip your Bank Rakyat card instead for allegedly giving RM100 million interest-free loan to carpet businessman Deepak Jaikishan.


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http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/270940
Ministry’s letterhead used for personal matter

Interesting comment -

Anonymous_1395686384: Dear Minister, Hamas is fighting for a Palestinian state just like what LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) did in seeking a separate homeland in Sri Lanka.

Both Hamas and LTTE have been labelled as terrorist organisations.

Yet the Malaysian government have jumped into the bandwagon by freezing their accounts, arresting their supporters and extraditing suspected ex-Tigers despite that the Sri Lankan government has massacred hundreds of thousand civilians.

All LTTE wanted was a place to call home just like the Palestinians.


Sabahan: You should snip your Bank Rakyat card instead for allegedly giving RM100 million interest-free loan to carpet businessman Deepak Jaikishan.
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one is taking back stolen land the other want to separate ? hmm.gif
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I wonder all those boycotting do they really know the story behind this war?
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Bro where is your facts? Link whatever sources you have like mine ok?Peace no war
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Dont expect me to relook my sources I'm sorry. I have nothing to prove to /k. I don't just go google and cherry pick articles that look nice. All I can say is read more history and follow the news.

Just read the current world news, Israel and Hamas are in a cease-fire at the moment, Egypt acting as mediators. Hamas however rejected an extension ceasefire period for god knows why and rockets are still flying into Israel despite the ceasefire.

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Sorry I couldn't finish the video. I had to stop when he kept pushing that Palestine are more religious than Israel. This is what you get when you mix politics and religion

QUOTE(gestapo @ Aug 8 2014, 12:16 PM)
obviously israel started this whole mess when they declare independence  doh.gif

then the massacre of palestinian villages and displacing them in order to create the illegal state, u think they ask those people nicely to leave their home ah?

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Israel was given independence because Arabs and Jews pre-1948 couldn't live in peace. Minority Jews was getting slaughtered by riots and even more Jews were migrating into Palestine.
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 8 2014, 12:41 PM)
Dont expect me to relook my sources I'm sorry. I have nothing to prove to /k. I don't just go google and cherry pick articles that look nice. All I can say is read more history and follow the news.

Just read the current world news, Israel and Hamas are in a cease-fire at the moment, Egypt acting as mediators. Hamas however rejected an extension ceasefire period for god knows why and rockets are still flying into Israel despite the ceasefire.
Sorry I couldn't finish the video. I had to stop when he kept pushing that Palestine are more religious than Israel. This is what you get when you mix politics and religion
Israel was given independence because Arabs and Jews pre-1948 couldn't live in peace. Minority Jews was getting slaughtered by riots and even more Jews were migrating into Palestine.
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no problem. the god dont want you to watch it till finish. i done my part. god decide the outcome.
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one is taking back stolen land the other want to separate ?  hmm.gif
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About the same. They think the land is theirs.


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About the same.  They think the land is theirs.
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lol your logic  doh.gif
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Can't beat yours regarding the letterhead.

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have you been paying attention? the arabs earlier stole the land from the jews and christians...
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have you been paying attention? the arabs earlier stole the land from the jews and christians...
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so what arab stole it first? didnt the jews stole most of land back now? if malaysia can give out singapore, why israel cannot? kenapa masih nak bangunkan penempatan haram?
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so what arab stole it first? didnt the jews stole most of land back now? if malaysia can give out singapore, why israel cannot? kenapa masih nak bangunkan penempatan haram?
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if you say so what to land conquest stolen by arabs then why do you call settlers on occupied land haram? this topic not a simple argument as you like to put into a dismissive "so what?"

MY and SG are different and have different history.

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QUOTE(beelzebob13 @ Aug 8 2014, 03:27 PM)
if you say so what to land conquest stolen by arabs then why do you call settlers on occupied land haram? this topic not a simple argument as you like to put into a dismissive "so what?"

MY and SG are different and have different history.
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my and sg is different? oh.. ok. it ok for israel violate international law and didnt obey ICJ rules, coz different history...
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my and sg is different? oh.. ok. it ok for israel violate international law and didnt obey ICJ rules, coz different history...
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again...you seem to like to narrowly focus into particular details you think is advantageous to only you and ignore every other detail that does not..
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again...you seem to like to narrowly focus into particular details you think is advantageous to only you and ignore every other detail that does not..
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mm.. ok la. when israel-palestine issue need to recall back history from 1000bc, 2000bc, 3000bc... when other country history no need. ok la. there is jews who never vacate the land before but then you sure only jews live there before? ok..ok.. the land belong to jews.. but only jews can live on the land? other race cannot till need to force them out? nothing wrong to get back the land, but the way it done is wrong.. the jews need to learn from chinese..
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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 8 2014, 03:16 PM)
so what arab stole it first? didnt the jews stole most of land back now? if malaysia can give out singapore, why israel cannot? kenapa masih nak bangunkan penempatan haram?
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I do agree those illegal settlements in West Bank have to go. There's no simple way of dealing with this issue due to lack of enforcement last time. Now the problem bloated up so much.

But what does that have to do with the current war? The war is in Gaza, started by killing of innocent Israeli children. The situation exploded and now it's about blockades, missile attacks, tunnel smuggling. Israel doesn't want to remove the blockade and release Palestinian criminals. Hamas on the other hand does not want to lay down their arms and remove those tunnels.

As we speak, truce just broke down and Palestine refused to extend ceasefire for more time. It seems like they just want to prolong the war and give Israel a bad name.
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how is it that the islamic ottoman empire capturing Christian lands back in the old ages is okay while Israel is not?

lol.


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note: it lead to the rise of Crusade n Moslems uses the crusade as attacking point against Christianity.


logic404.

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 8 2014, 04:23 PM)
I do agree those illegal settlements in West Bank have to go. There's no simple way of dealing with this issue due to lack of enforcement last time. Now the problem bloated up so much.

But what does that have to do with the current war? The war is in Gaza, started by killing of innocent Israeli children. The situation exploded and now it's about blockades, missile attacks, tunnel smuggling. Israel doesn't want to remove the blockade and release Palestinian criminals. Hamas on the other hand does not want to lay down their arms and remove those tunnels.

As we speak, truce just broke down and Palestine refused to extend ceasefire for more time. It seems like they just want to prolong the war and give Israel a bad name.
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what is the main reason this 30days war started?

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 8 2014, 04:24 PM)
how is it that the islamic ottoman empire capturing Christian lands back in the old ages is okay while Israel is not?

lol.
logic404.
note: it lead to the rise of Crusade n Moslems uses the crusade as attacking point against Christianity.
logic404.
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oohoooooo... what era we live now, sir? so you suggest it ok for other country after this like japan and china war each other for senkaku? or.. sulu with sabah? or any other country my-sg.. sountern thai case... it ok la then...
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wtf. why isnt there a pinned thread for Israel? Baronic
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what is the main reason this 30days war started?.
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There's multiple reasons, but mainly to crackdown on Hamas.
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mm.. ok la. when israel-palestine issue need to recall back history from 1000bc, 2000bc, 3000bc... when other country history no need. ok la. there is jews who never vacate the land before but then you sure only jews live there before? ok..ok.. the land belong to jews.. but only jews can live on the land? other race cannot till need to force them out? nothing wrong to get back the land, but the way it done is wrong.. the jews need to learn from chinese..
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if you want to take up ancient land "ownership" you can try...china is giving it a go in south china sea.
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have you been paying attention? the arabs earlier stole the land from the jews and christians...
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But jews stole it from philistines! Or was it the canaanites?
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But jews stole it from philistines! Or was it the canaanites?
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QUOTE(Sethmaster @ Aug 8 2014, 06:56 PM)
so? palestinians aren't the philistines.
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By the way, what happened to they McD boycott thread? It had one important eye-opening post about how the franchisee of Israel's McD refused to open branches in occupied settlements, and received flak by locals, claiming it had gone from being a for-profit business to a anti-Israeli entity.
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But jews stole it from philistines! Or was it the canaanites?
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definitely not the philistines...so, any canaanite claimants today? and who can actually make their claim stick...stick as defend the turf.
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definitely not the philistines...so, any canaanite claimants today? and who can actually make their claim stick...stick as defend the turf.
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Where do they come from anyway? Greece? Who are the true orang asli?
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There's multiple reasons, but mainly to crackdown on Hamas.
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jadi.. tentera israel lebih ramai bunuh tentera hamas atau bunuh orang awam? ya, hamas pun bunuh orang awam tapi tidak melampau batas seperti israel. tapi kenapa pulak nak pertahankan lebih lebih tindakan melampau zionis? macam yang kamu katakan, semua bermula dengan pembunuhan 3 orang remaja israel. pm israel tanpa apa apa bukti terus salahkan hamas. dalam proses mencari pembunuh yang bertanggungjawab sahaja, tentera israel dah bunuh lebih 10 orang awam dan tahan beratus ratus orang. dah jumpa pembunuh pun masih lagi bunuh beribu orang awam. kenapa imej israel masih lagi kelihatan sangat baik di mata saudara?

di china, kerajaan china pun ada masalah juga dengan urumqi. tapi tak ada la sampai nak kena bina tembok, buat pemeriksaan badan, sekatan barang barang keluar masuk apa semua.. yang terbaru pun cuma larangan orang yang berhijab bertudung berjanggut berbaju bulan bintang naik bas awam saja bukannya tak boleh berhijab berjanggut langsung..



QUOTE(beelzebob13 @ Aug 8 2014, 05:59 PM)
if you want to take up ancient land "ownership" you can try...china is giving it a go in south china sea.
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kalau pakai jawapan my-china lain sejarah ok tak? tapi sebenarnya sebab masing masing dah move on. sebagai menghargai hubungan sejarah yang dah lama wujud antara kedua dua negara yang saling bantu membantu, maka pihak yang berkenaan mangambil langkah penyelesaian diplomatik mengikut saluran antarabangsa yang betul. apa saja keputusan diterima, kalau tak terima buat bantahan dengan cara dan saluran yang betul.

israel?? israel tak move on lagi. masih lagi tersangkut mesin masa nya di zaman ottoman empire. the hell UN, PBB, ICJ, international law? itu tanah aku.. aku yang punya..
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first, go read some history books ok?

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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 8 2014, 09:40 PM)
jadi.. tentera israel lebih ramai bunuh tentera hamas atau bunuh orang awam? ya, hamas pun bunuh orang awam tapi tidak melampau batas seperti israel. tapi kenapa pulak nak pertahankan lebih lebih tindakan melampau zionis? macam yang kamu katakan, semua bermula dengan pembunuhan 3 orang remaja israel. pm israel tanpa apa apa bukti terus salahkan hamas. dalam proses mencari pembunuh yang bertanggungjawab sahaja, tentera israel dah bunuh lebih 10 orang awam dan tahan beratus ratus orang. dah jumpa pembunuh pun masih lagi bunuh beribu orang awam. kenapa imej israel masih lagi kelihatan sangat baik di mata saudara?
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saya ni tak support mana2 pihak. Tapi ada rasionalnya Israel bina tembok tu. Hamas itu organisasi penganas yang sudah bunuh banyak warga Israel yang tidak berdosa. Apa matlamat utama mereka? Mahu keamanan? Hidup harmoni dengan Israel? Bukan macam tu la, matlamat mereka ialah memusnahkan Israel.

Bayangkanlah kalau ada kumpulan macam Hamas yang memerintah Singapura yang mahu musnahkan Malaysia. Takkan kita duduk diam saja kena roket tiap2 hari. Kalau ada peluang, gugur satu bom kat pulau tu semua mati pun elok.

Tengok West Bank. Israel mana ada buat sekatan macam Gaza. Itu kerana pengaruh Hamas di situ sikit berbanding Gaza.

Israel pun bukanlah macam malaikat tapi Hamas lebih zalim berbanding mereka.

Sudahla, perang ini sudah berpuluh tahun tapi mereka masih tak boleh saling bermaaf biarlah mereka settel sendiri.
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what is the main reason this 30days war started?
oohoooooo... what era we live now, sir? so you suggest it ok for other country after this like japan and china war each other for senkaku? or.. sulu with sabah? or any other country my-sg.. sountern thai case... it ok la then...
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Not matter of era, matter of prejudice. As long it's Islam, it's alright, if others, all harom.

Moslems praise the Ottoman empire as zaman kegemilangan Islam (means approved), while demonizing Israel as oppressors (disapprove).

Hypocrites the size of a giant hippo.


Logic? 404.

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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 8 2014, 10:56 PM)
saya ni tak support mana2 pihak. Tapi ada rasionalnya Israel bina tembok tu. Hamas itu organisasi penganas yang sudah bunuh banyak warga Israel yang tidak berdosa. Apa matlamat utama mereka? Mahu keamanan? Hidup harmoni dengan Israel? Bukan macam tu la, matlamat mereka ialah memusnahkan Israel.

Bayangkanlah kalau ada kumpulan macam Hamas yang memerintah Singapura yang mahu musnahkan Malaysia. Takkan kita duduk diam saja kena roket tiap2 hari. Kalau ada peluang, gugur satu bom kat pulau tu semua mati pun elok.

Tengok West Bank. Israel mana ada buat sekatan macam Gaza. Itu kerana pengaruh Hamas di situ sikit berbanding Gaza.

Israel pun bukanlah macam malaikat tapi Hamas lebih zalim berbanding mereka.

Sudahla, perang ini sudah berpuluh tahun tapi mereka masih tak boleh saling bermaaf biarlah mereka settel sendiri.
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iyalah, untuk israel smua ada rasional. sekatlah apa pun. kerajaan israel tu bukan pengganas pun walaupun bunuh lebih banyak warga palestin yang tak berdosa dan tahan beribu orang dalam penjara. apa matlamat israel? mahu keamanan?? hidup harmoni? bukan macam tu la, matlamat mereka ialah memusnahkan palestin.

ok... hamas perintah singapore... of coz kita tak duduk diam, tapi kita juga takkan senang senang pergi serang tanpa guna saluran yang ada sekarang terlebih dahulu. kita juga takkan guna bom fosforus atau atom bom sewenang wenangnya.. kita mesti mintak tolong UN, PBB, US dulu punye..

west bank sebab ramai jews la sebab tu mereka tak buat tembok, tak sekat itu ini. kan mereka buat penempatan haram supaya rakyat mereka lebih ramai duduk kat west bank sampai lama lama palestin kat west bank tu jadi minoriti. bayangkan kalau mereka pindah keluar jews dari west bank, susahlah kerajaan israel nak hapuskan rakyat palestin di dua kawasan yang berjauhan sekaligus. susah nak fokus.

mm.. zionis kurang zalim dari hamas... ok la.. T_T

sebenarnya, apa masalah israel takut sangat nak penuhi permintaan hamas? takut hamas buat bom atom ke? kamon la.. kalau korea utara pun amerika boleh kesan ini kan pulak gaza... lagi pun, kalau hamas tetap serang israel lepas permintaan hamas dipenuhi, amerika konfem akan datang tolong israel punya. amerika sendiri yang akan bereskan gaza. by that time, negara lain pun dah tak ada sebab nak pertahankan gaza dah.. tapi sebab apa israel tak nak penuhi permintaan hamas, sebab seronok bunuh rakyat palestin...

entah apa la aku cakap ni...
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 8 2014, 11:24 PM)
Not matter of era, matter of prejudice. As long it's Islam, it's alright, if others, all harom.

Moslems praise the Ottoman empire as zaman kegemilangan Islam (means approved), while demonizing Israel as oppressors (disapprove).

Hypocrites the size of a giant hippo.
Logic? 404.
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what ever la bro. karma bro.. didnt christian also chase away muslim from andalusia before that..
UN, PBB, ICJ exist what year ah? why only amerika can use atom bom before, now other country cannot use. should be ok to use la..
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what ever la bro. karma bro.. didnt christian also chase away muslim from andalusia before that..
UN, PBB, ICJ exist what year ah? why only amerika can use atom bom before, now other country cannot use. should be ok to use la..
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Whatever? No. smile.gif

It cannot be whatever.

If Moslems acknowledge Ottoman Empire, they have no right to critic Israel. Simple Logic.


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You're definitely not getting pahala for this kinda behaviour.

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MyVi with Starbucks sticker also kena -

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You know, It may be just a Myvi. But fixing that ain't cheap you know. Go ahead and boycott all you want. But this behavior is not Islamic at all.

You're definitely not getting pahala for this kinda behaviour.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 9 2014, 01:17 AM)
Whatever? No.  smile.gif

It cannot be whatever.

If Moslems acknowledge Ottoman Empire, they have no right to critic Israel. Simple Logic.
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smile.gif still stuck in ottoman empire time zone.. you not prejudice against islam arent you?
ya.. only muslim critic israel right? christian and jews not? only muslim country votes against israel in UN resolution isnt it?
if follow your logic, ya it ok to kill those rohingya in myanmar and south thai and any other country coz muslim acknowledge ottoman empire. how about russia-ukraine over crimea.?
your logic is like, a book that clearly stated an author name on it is not doubt is holy book from god. but a book that clearly didnt stated any author name on it is no doubt not holy and come from a human eventho the human himself denied it.

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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 9 2014, 07:47 AM)
smile.gif still stuck in ottoman empire time zone.. you not prejudice against islam arent you?
ya.. only muslim critic israel right? christian and jews not? only muslim country votes against israel in UN resolution isnt it?
if follow your logic, ya it ok to kill those rohingya in myanmar and south thai and any other country coz muslim acknowledge ottoman empire. how about russia-ukraine over crimea.?
your logic is like, a book that clearly stated an author name on it is not doubt is holy book from god. but a book that clearly didnt stated any author name on it is no doubt not holy and come from a human eventho the human himself denied it.
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Same can be said of your prejudice against Israel when you turn your eyes blind towards the Ottoman Empire War, after all it is about war. smile.gif

Moslems are the biggest haters and critics of Israel compared to others.

Not follow my logic, It's you people logic not found.

Tell it to my face then, If ottoman empire is not praised among Moslems. smile.gif

Tell it. No I'm not talking about individuals but the group as a whole.

You know you're staring a dead end here, no matter how you weasel out, you can't.

Settle this first then we talk about Israel. How is it the Ottoman Empire Wars are Praised by Moslems and can be selectively prejudice about other Wars?

You know why? Because it is not conquered by Moslems. Simple Logic. As long it is waged by Moslems conquerors you are OKAY with it but if OTHERS conquer YOU, YOU CRY FOUL!

Hypocrites right? smile.gif

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 9 2014, 09:39 AM)
Same can be said of your prejudice against Israel when you turn your eyes blind towards the Ottoman Empire War, after all it is about war.  smile.gif

Moslems are the biggest haters and critics of Israel compared to others.

Not follow my logic, It's you people logic not found.

Tell it to my face then, If ottoman empire is not praised among Moslems.  smile.gif

Tell it. No I'm not talking about individuals but the group as a whole.

You know you're staring a dead end here, no matter how you weasel out, you can't.

Settle this first then we talk about Israel. How is it the Ottoman Empire Wars are Praised by Moslems and can be selectively prejudice about other Wars?

You know why? Because it is not conquered by Moslems. Simple Logic. As long it is waged by Moslems conquerors you are OKAY with it but if OTHERS conquer YOU, YOU CRY FOUL!

Hypocrites right?  smile.gif
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>comparing conquest during middle ages with conquest in the current age

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 9 2014, 09:39 AM)
Same can be said of your prejudice against Israel when you turn your eyes blind towards the Ottoman Empire War, after all it is about war.  smile.gif

Moslems are the biggest haters and critics of Israel compared to others.

Not follow my logic, It's you people logic not found.

Tell it to my face then, If ottoman empire is not praised among Moslems.  smile.gif

Tell it. No I'm not talking about individuals but the group as a whole.

You know you're staring a dead end here, no matter how you weasel out, you can't.

Settle this first then we talk about Israel. How is it the Ottoman Empire Wars are Praised by Moslems and can be selectively prejudice about other Wars?

You know why? Because it is not conquered by Moslems. Simple Logic. As long it is waged by Moslems conquerors you are OKAY with it but if OTHERS conquer YOU, YOU CRY FOUL!

Hypocrites right?  smile.gif
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i didnt turn my eyes blind towards ottaman empire war. the fact is, i dont even know what really happen during those era. are the story about the empire we read today is true enough compare to current palestine-israel war which something we can see and judge ourself and make change.

ok to make you feel good, i just say yes muslim praised the empire. but what kind and how muslim praised them? how muslim praised them in textbook? did muslim teach the student to learn from the empire to just attack other country, kill all the non-muslim, behead them, torture them, dont give any human right to them.. bla bla bla... ok.. let say something like that really happen back then, so what you want muslim do? want redo the history? revive back all the dead? change back the history? can muslim do that? or you want muslim ask forgiveness? so, why dont you send memorandum or what so ever or hold rally? the ottoman empire dont even exist now to punish them..

during those era what kind international law they had? what kind international organization the world have that time. any human right movement or not that time? what is the law of war they follow that time? how many news reporter cover the live event? how many audio videos sources got?

PBB, UN, ICJ, human rights watch and other exist today for reason.

for peace, america can send their troop to syria, afganistan, iraq to kill and catch the bad guy, but didnt send their troop to gaza to kill and catch hamas leader and their follower..

oh felixia yeap post a vid. i wonder, during ottoman empire something like in the vid happend or not? go see if got time.
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i didnt turn my eyes blind towards ottaman empire war. the fact is, i dont even know what really happen during those era. are the story about the empire we read today is true enough compare to current palestine-israel war which something we can see and judge ourself and make change.

ok to make you feel good, i just say yes muslim praised the empire. but what kind and how muslim praised them? how muslim praised them in textbook? did muslim teach the student to learn from the empire to just attack other country, kill all the non-muslim, behead them, torture them, dont give any human right to them.. bla bla bla... ok.. let say something like that really happen back then, so what you want muslim do? want redo the history? revive back all the dead? change back the history? can muslim do that? or you want muslim ask forgiveness? so, why dont you send memorandum or what so ever or hold rally? the ottoman empire dont even exist now to punish them..

during those era what kind international law they had? what kind international organization the world have that time. any human right movement or not that time? what is the law of war they follow that time? how many news reporter cover the live event? how many audio videos sources got?

PBB, UN, ICJ, human rights watch and other exist today for reason.

for peace, america can send their troop to syria, afganistan, iraq to kill and catch the bad guy, but didnt send their troop to gaza to kill and catch hamas leader and their follower..

oh felixia yeap post a vid. i wonder, during ottoman empire something like in the vid happend or not? go see if got time.
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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 8 2014, 11:47 PM)
iyalah, untuk israel smua ada rasional. sekatlah apa pun. kerajaan israel tu bukan pengganas pun walaupun bunuh lebih banyak warga palestin yang tak berdosa dan tahan beribu orang dalam penjara. apa matlamat israel? mahu keamanan?? hidup harmoni? bukan macam tu la, matlamat mereka ialah memusnahkan palestin.

ok... hamas perintah singapore... of coz kita tak duduk diam, tapi kita juga takkan senang senang pergi serang tanpa guna saluran yang ada sekarang terlebih dahulu. kita juga takkan guna bom fosforus atau atom bom sewenang wenangnya.. kita mesti mintak tolong UN, PBB, US dulu punye..

west bank sebab ramai jews la sebab tu mereka tak buat tembok, tak sekat itu ini. kan mereka buat penempatan haram supaya rakyat mereka lebih ramai duduk kat west bank sampai lama lama palestin kat west bank tu jadi minoriti. bayangkan kalau mereka pindah keluar jews dari west bank, susahlah kerajaan israel nak hapuskan rakyat palestin di dua kawasan yang berjauhan sekaligus. susah nak fokus.

mm.. zionis kurang zalim dari hamas... ok la.. T_T

sebenarnya, apa masalah israel takut sangat nak penuhi permintaan hamas? takut hamas buat bom atom ke? kamon la.. kalau korea utara pun amerika boleh kesan ini kan pulak gaza... lagi pun, kalau hamas tetap serang israel lepas permintaan hamas dipenuhi, amerika konfem akan datang tolong israel punya. amerika sendiri yang akan bereskan gaza. by that time, negara lain pun dah tak ada sebab nak pertahankan gaza dah.. tapi sebab apa israel tak nak penuhi permintaan hamas, sebab seronok bunuh rakyat palestin...

entah apa la aku cakap ni...
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eh tak ada bukti Israel guna bomb fosforus. Semua khabar angin jer

Memang benar Israel buat penempatan haram di West Bank. Tapi situasi di West Bank kan lebih baik berbanding Gaza. Sekurang kurangnya tiada peperangan. Apa2 masalah boleh duduk bincang.

bukan senang la nak penuhi permintaan Hamas. Atom bom ke, bom biasa ke sama saja untuk Israel. Kalau ada national threat mestila ambil tindakan. Kalau penuhi permintaan Hamas, tentu lebih rakyat Israel yang mati dan Israel tak mahu rakyatnya terkorban lagi. Untuk mereka, 1 nyawa rakyat Israel lebih bermakna dari seluruh rakyat Palestine. Negara mana2 pun sama

Jadi macam mana nak settel? Tak tahu la, kedua-dua pihak degil sangat. Tak ada jawapan yang senang
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Why do you bother argue with that lowlife? He even agreed with that Israeli minister or whatever that suggest the soldier to rape Palestinian mom and sisters
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QUOTE(Szzz @ Aug 10 2014, 04:01 PM)
eh tak ada bukti Israel guna bomb fosforus. Semua khabar angin jer

Memang benar Israel buat penempatan haram di West Bank. Tapi situasi di West Bank kan lebih baik berbanding Gaza. Sekurang kurangnya tiada peperangan. Apa2 masalah boleh duduk bincang.

bukan senang la nak penuhi permintaan Hamas. Atom bom ke, bom biasa ke sama saja untuk Israel. Kalau ada national threat mestila ambil tindakan. Kalau penuhi permintaan Hamas, tentu lebih rakyat Israel yang mati dan Israel tak mahu rakyatnya terkorban lagi. Untuk mereka, 1 nyawa rakyat Israel lebih bermakna dari seluruh rakyat Palestine. Negara mana2 pun sama

Jadi macam mana nak settel? Tak tahu la, kedua-dua pihak degil sangat. Tak ada jawapan yang senang
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maybe perang kali ni tak guna.. tapi perang sebelum ni pernah guna.

betul west bank lebih baik, tapi baik yang macam mana? maju sangat ke west bank tu sampai israel buat banyak rumah? sila tengok vid yang felixia yeap pos kat fb dia. kat youtube pun ada.

kerajaan israel je yang buat buat susah. motif dia nak halau keluar semua orang arab dari tanah yahudi tu dan claim setiap milimeter tanah tu sebagai tanah yahudi. israel tak ada plan pun nak tinggal bersama sama dengan orang palestin di tanah yahudi tu.

lagi satu, tanah israel sekarang bukan main besar. tapi kenapa kerajaan israel tak alihkan penduduk yang tinggal dalam lingkungan jarak roket hamas boleh capai? jauh sangat ke roket hamas boleh tembak tambah pulak dengan teknologi iron dome. kalau israel boleh bina tembok pemisah, kenapa israel tak bina tembok tinggi sekeliling gaza untuk letak iron dome tu supaya roket hamas boleh ditembak awal awal.
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Video of protest and counter-protest in New York. No windshield was broken during the filming of this video.

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okay, keep telling yourself that supporting hamas will bring you 99 virgins in heaven.
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Wow so much of hatred
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errr....I think the flags were hung up by the McDonald workers.

Sort of to "protect" the place from protesters; so that they don't do anything excessive.
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Aug 10 2014, 05:49 PM)
okay, keep telling yourself that supporting hamas will bring you 99 virgins in heaven.
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hmm.gif 99 upgraded liaw?

i thought 72 only ?
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let's see if there's any Malaysian who knows more than the Palestinian himself.

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Quoted above vid in this thread before the original thread got nuked.
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i'm curious as to why the Arab nations like Egypt are not allowing Palestinians refuge in their country?
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QUOTE(benkenobi19 @ Aug 10 2014, 01:12 PM)
I wonder why Malaysian Muslims target McDonald's specifically for boycott. All these boycotting, all these condemnation, but they are silent when Muslims in Syria are killed, ISIS slaughtering Christian minorities in Iraq (or should I say ISIS is killing anyone that is against them regardless of religion), including children, toddlers, women. All these happen while Malaysian Muslims condemn Israel for being 'kejam'.

When you are only vocal when Israel is involved, that's more anti-Israel, instead of pro-human right or pro-Palestine.
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Depends on who you follow I guess, my circle many anti-ISIS also.
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i'm curious as to why the Arab nations like Egypt are not allowing Palestinians refuge in their country?
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they treat em like bangga-las.
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Depends on who you follow I guess, my circle many anti-ISIS also.
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Coz they thought it the same brother in the same sect " Sunni" . when they referring to the militant at Syria who fighting for Islamic state actually as Sunni. Malaysian muslim all believers in Sunni sect... that why there is a doubt to voice it up or not... Actually Malaysian are moderate . the boycott issue is just few of Muslim taking place... if the Malaysia leaning a bit on extremist... the worker in McDonald all will change it jobs seriously ..I am no joking .. Malaysian is still leaning on the good side the moderation.. who say we are racist that is not even make up anything at all.. Have you seen anyone abandon their job in McD, KFC , Coca-cola , Tesco or HSBC??

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Aug 10 2014, 09:31 PM)
i'm curious as to why the Arab nations like Egypt are not allowing Palestinians refuge in their country?
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They were. Egypt under Morsi was pro-Palestinian, borders open but look at him now. The military leaders that staged the coup remained apathetic.
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At first, it was like "No, you should stay in your place otherwise you will lose it forever! We must not bow down to the enemy!"

Now, it's like "Eh, why should I care for those people?"
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QUOTE(syockit @ Aug 10 2014, 11:59 PM)
At first, it was like "No, you should stay in your place otherwise you will lose it forever! We must not bow down to the enemy!"

Now, it's like "Eh, why should I care for those people?"
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only the muslim people outside of middle east area care about them badly.
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QUOTE(vexus @ Aug 11 2014, 12:17 AM)
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wrong calc

revenue = less
raw mate = a bit less but they still need to prep it no matter got buyer onot
workers salaries = still need to pay doesnt matter got income onot, will reduce if they do retrenchment
overheads = still need to pay as long as they operating
income tax = less since income is less
net income after tax = loss
10% to israel = gonna be negative or less
effect of boycott = less income for all parties, but workers still got their salary n gov still got their tax only a bit less
the losing party is owner of franchise, mcd n israel
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i didnt turn my eyes blind towards ottaman empire war. the fact is, i dont even know what really happen during those era. are the story about the empire we read today is true enough compare to current palestine-israel war which something we can see and judge ourself and make change.

ok to make you feel good, i just say yes muslim praised the empire. but what kind and how muslim praised them? how muslim praised them in textbook? did muslim teach the student to learn from the empire to just attack other country, kill all the non-muslim, behead them, torture them, dont give any human right to them.. bla bla bla... ok.. let say something like that really happen back then, so what you want muslim do? want redo the history? revive back all the dead? change back the history? can muslim do that? or you want muslim ask forgiveness? so, why dont you send memorandum or what so ever or hold rally? the ottoman empire dont even exist now to punish them..

during those era what kind international law they had? what kind international organization the world have that time. any human right movement or not that time? what is the law of war they follow that time? how many news reporter cover the live event? how many audio videos sources got?

PBB, UN, ICJ, human rights watch and other exist today for reason.

for peace, america can send their troop to syria, afganistan, iraq to kill and catch the bad guy, but didnt send their troop to gaza to kill and catch hamas leader and their follower..

oh felixia yeap post a vid. i wonder, during ottoman empire something like in the vid happend or not? go see if got time.
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I didn't know you're a kid. Every older Moslems would know about the war.
There's nothing you can do. You can't unturned that event, It is stained in the Islamic History, that Moslems waged conquering war under ottoman banner same like how Israel is taking back their land. All War is cruel, there won't be pillow fight in this context. To uphold one war while criticizing another war is hypocritical.

You cannot cry foul or point your finger when Moslems themselves has done the same thing.





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Why do you bother argue with that lowlife? He even agreed with that Israeli minister or whatever that suggest the soldier to rape Palestinian mom and sisters
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Lowlife? You took my words out of context, that is lowlife indeed. Don't try so hard to pin me down, you can't afford it, not by your type of standard.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 09:34 AM)
I didn't know you're a kid. Every older Moslems would know about the war.
There's nothing you can do. You can't unturned that event, It is stained in the Islamic History, that Moslems waged conquering war under ottoman banner same like how Israel is taking back their land. All War is cruel, there won't be pillow fight in this context. To uphold one war while criticizing another war is hypocritical.

You cannot cry foul or point your finger when Moslems themselves has done the same thing.
Lowlife? You took my words out of context, that is lowlife indeed. Don't try so hard to pin me down, you can't afford it, not by your type of standard.
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i didnt know you are an older moslem. even kid know what is wrong what is right. tongue.gif
up to you lah. you have your own view, i have my own view. you a royal paderi. so you must know better. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 09:34 AM)
I didn't know you're a kid. Every older Moslems would know about the war.
There's nothing you can do. You can't unturned that event, It is stained in the Islamic History, that Moslems waged conquering war under ottoman banner same like how Israel is taking back their land. All War is cruel, there won't be pillow fight in this context. To uphold one war while criticizing another war is hypocritical.

You cannot cry foul or point your finger when Moslems themselves has done the same thing.
Lowlife? You took my words out of context, that is lowlife indeed. Don't try so hard to pin me down, you can't afford it, not by your type of standard.
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The act of war is wrong, but at least how you act during the war is very much important..i dont really know how they do it that time, but Islam has their own code of conduct during a war.

You know yourself that during that time, everybody is at war with each other, especially Christian-Islam.
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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 11 2014, 11:59 AM)
i didnt know you are an older moslem.  even kid know what is wrong what is right. tongue.gif
up to you lah. you have your own view, i have my own view. you a royal paderi. so you must know better. icon_rolleyes.gif
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You're just telling me, I don't care what your views, I just know mine is right and you go on disparaging with your Save Gaza, Palestinian propaganda.

I really shake my head sometimes at how good you ppl in denial sometime.


QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 11 2014, 12:06 PM)
The act of war is wrong, but at least how you act during the war is very much important..i dont really know how they do it that time, but Islam has their own code of conduct during a war.

You know yourself that during that time, everybody is at war with each other, especially Christian-Islam.
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Wrong is wrong lah, how you act also still wrong lah.

The current generation Christian have accepted that the Crusade is wrong BUT please make mental note somewhere in your head that the Crusade arised IN RESPONSE to ottoman war. By that you should know who started the wrong.

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http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/In...otted-over-Gaza

Even HSBC is boycotted over gaza? doh.gif


KUALA LUMPUR -- Malaysians are boycotting fast-food chain McDonald's and HSBC because of the companies' alleged support of Israel.


A girl holds a flag at a rally in support of Gaza in Kuala Lumpur on Aug. 2. © Reuters
Some claim the fast-food chain is related to Israeli interests, while HSBC's closure of the bank accounts of Muslim organizations in the U.K. has also led to anger.

Customers are staying away from McDonald's 250 restaurants since activists on social media called for a boycott, according to local news reports. Syed Hussain Tuan Embong, a franchise holder of two outlets in the eastern state of Terengganu, said business was down 80% in the past two days. He told Sinar Harian, a Malay daily, on Thursday that he was disappointed that protesters threw stones at his restaurants. Workers have reportedly wanted to quit, fearing reprisals for working at the chain.

"As a Muslim, I don't like what the Israel's army did to the Palestinians, but the boycotts are unfounded," the owner was quoted as saying.

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In response to the boycott calls, McDonald's Malaysia has released an advertisement saying it does not channel its profits to support any campaigns that are political or conflict-related in nature anywhere in the world. McDonald's Malaysia said it employs 12,000 staff, out of which 85% are Muslims. Some of its franchise owners are Muslims as well.









something is really wrong with the mindset. HSBC pun kena?
Honestly I have enough of this! This is too much.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 12:11 PM)
You're just telling me, I don't care what your views, I just know mine is right and you go on disparaging with your Save Gaza, Palestinian propaganda.

I really shake my head sometimes at how good you ppl in denial sometime. 
Wrong is wrong lah, how you act also still wrong lah.

The current generation Christian have accepted that the Crusade is wrong BUT please make mental note somewhere in your head that the Crusade arised IN RESPONSE to ottoman war. By that you should know who started the wrong.
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Anyway history is history. What we see in front of us that we need to act upon.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 12:26 PM)
http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/In...otted-over-Gaza

Even HSBC is boycotted over gaza?  doh.gif
KUALA LUMPUR -- Malaysians are boycotting fast-food chain McDonald's and HSBC because of the companies' alleged support of Israel.


A girl holds a flag at a rally in support of Gaza in Kuala Lumpur on Aug. 2.  © Reuters
Some claim the fast-food chain is related to Israeli interests, while HSBC's closure of the bank accounts of Muslim organizations in the U.K. has also led to anger.

Customers are staying away from McDonald's 250 restaurants since activists on social media called for a boycott, according to local news reports. Syed Hussain Tuan Embong, a franchise holder of two outlets in the eastern state of Terengganu, said business was down 80% in the past two days. He told Sinar Harian, a Malay daily, on Thursday that he was disappointed that protesters threw stones at his restaurants. Workers have reportedly wanted to quit, fearing reprisals for working at the chain.

"As a Muslim, I don't like what the Israel's army did to the Palestinians, but the boycotts are unfounded," the owner was quoted as saying.

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In response to the boycott calls, McDonald's Malaysia has released an advertisement saying it does not channel its profits to support any campaigns that are political or conflict-related in nature anywhere in the world. McDonald's Malaysia said it employs 12,000 staff, out of which 85% are Muslims. Some of its franchise owners are Muslims as well.
something is really wrong with the mindset. HSBC pun kena?
Honestly I have enough of this! This is too much.
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BBC
They said HSBC never really explained why they had chosen to close the groups' bank account, apart from "beyond their risk of appetite" which leads to the speculation of Islamophobic and related issues with Gaza.
Not just blind boycott.
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Anyway history is history. What we see in front of us that we need to act upon.
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History is proven correct, that you have no right to label Israel anything.

Action?

By boycotting Malaysia McDonalds?

Do you see Israel losing even 1 inch in this war?

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BBC
They said HSBC never really explained why they had chosen to close the groups' bank account, apart from "beyond their risk of appetite" which leads to the speculation of Islamophobic and related issues with Gaza.
Not just blind boycott.
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Welcome to the corporate world, terrorism isn't a matter to be taken lightly. Every Bank have this right.

Whether it's speculation or not, that's not for you to judge but the Bank's.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 12:11 PM)
You're just telling me, I don't care what your views, I just know mine is right and you go on disparaging with your Save Gaza, Palestinian propaganda.

I really shake my head sometimes at how good you ppl in denial sometime. 
Wrong is wrong lah, how you act also still wrong lah.

The current generation Christian have accepted that the Crusade is wrong BUT please make mental note somewhere in your head that the Crusade arised IN RESPONSE to ottoman war. By that you should know who started the wrong.
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wrong is wrong lah. what israel do also wrong what, why you ok pulak? lel.
like my post before, i dont have any problem with israel want take back the land but do it in appropriate way lah. why need to do like ottoman empire era pulok.

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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 11 2014, 01:36 PM)
wrong is wrong lah. what israel do also wrong what, why you ok pulak? lel.
like my post before, i dont have any problem with israel want take back the land but do it in appropriate way lah. why need to do like ottoman empire era pulok.
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No amount of explanation will satisfy you, This is beyond you or me lah.

As it is, This Save Gaza propaganda, the one done at the stadium, this McD boycott is not going to change anything over there.

Orang Malaysia jugak yg merana, 85% of McD Staff are Malays.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 01:40 PM)
No amount of explanation will satisfy you, This is beyond you or me lah.

As it is, This Save Gaza propaganda, the one done at the stadium, this McD boycott is not going to change anything over there.

Orang Malaysia jugak yg merana, 85% of McD Staff are Malays.
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no amount of pictures, videos and explanation also will open you eyes to what israel done is wrong.

ya, maybe not change anything but at least they know what israel do is wrong.

i dont agree too with some of their behavior during boycotting. till now, me myself didnt go to mcd yet which is not far from my house to do boycott thing.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 01:33 PM)
History is proven correct, that you have no right to label Israel anything.

Action?

By boycotting Malaysia McDonalds?

Do you see Israel losing even 1 inch in this war?
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No comment on McD boycott.

Still have right to label the zionists as a terrorist doesn't matter what you thought happened in past.
Winner writes history. Ottoman still lose in the end.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 01:40 PM)
No amount of explanation will satisfy you, This is beyond you or me lah.

As it is, This Save Gaza propaganda, the one done at the stadium, this McD boycott is not going to change anything over there.

Orang Malaysia jugak yg merana, 85% of McD Staff are Malays.
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Oh you really cared rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 01:35 PM)
Welcome to the corporate world, terrorism isn't a matter to be taken lightly. Every Bank have this right.

Whether it's speculation or not, that's not for you to judge but the Bank's.
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So why are you judging people boycotting HSBC?
They have their right to close their account too unsure.gif
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yesterday ate at McD... one race is totally missing weii... which is a good thing actually... i got my food in like 5min...

hope this situation goes on longer...... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 11 2014, 01:53 PM)
no amount of pictures, videos and explanation also will open you eyes to what israel done is wrong.

ya, maybe not change anything but at least they know what israel do is wrong.

i dont agree too with some of their behavior during boycotting. till now, me myself didnt go to mcd yet which is not far from my house to do boycott thing.
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Who is "they" knows? Malaysians knows? What is that going to do? Solve any problems or create a division?
Wrong or Right depends on each perspective.


QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 11 2014, 01:56 PM)
No comment on McD boycott.

Still have right to label the zionists as a terrorist doesn't matter what you thought happened in past.
Winner writes history. Ottoman still lose in the end.
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The past is to teach you not for you to ignore unless you prefer to be ignorant.

Moslems who once participated in conquering war calling others terrorist? smile.gif



QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 11 2014, 01:57 PM)
Oh you really cared  rolleyes.gif
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Still blind to the fact that the only casualties are the malays working in McD? Suit yourself.
Israel not affected 1 inch.


QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 11 2014, 01:59 PM)
So why are you judging people boycotting HSBC?
They have their right to close their account too unsure.gif
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Same thing with this boycott of McD, you need to wake up, not going to effect Israel.


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 03:05 PM)
Who is "they" knows? Malaysians knows? What is that going to do? Solve any problems or create a division?
Wrong or Right depends on each perspective.
The past is to teach you not for you to ignore unless you prefer to be ignorant.

Moslems who once participated in conquering war calling others terrorist?  smile.gif
Still blind to the fact that the only casualties are the malays working in McD? Suit yourself.
Israel not affected 1 inch.
Same thing with this boycott of McD, you need to wake up, not going to effect Israel.
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this affects you how?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 03:05 PM)
Who is "they" knows? Malaysians knows? What is that going to do? Solve any problems or create a division?
Wrong or Right depends on each perspective.
The past is to teach you not for you to ignore unless you prefer to be ignorant.

Moslems who once participated in conquering war calling others terrorist?  smile.gif
Still blind to the fact that the only casualties are the malays working in McD? Suit yourself.
Israel not affected 1 inch.
Same thing with this boycott of McD, you need to wake up, not going to effect Israel.
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Ignore what?? Ignore terrorism? You are getting confused yourself on the issue.
Why were there crusades? To defend, to retaliate the Empire? Why not just sit there and just let things happen without bloodshed?

Israel is the terrorist NOW. We are not dealing with past tense here man.

Why you care so much about other people boycott? It doesn't affect Israel, and doesn't affect you.
Just because it involves muslims..
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Ignore what?? Ignore terrorism? You are getting confused yourself on the issue.
Why were there crusades? To defend, to retaliate the Empire? Why not just sit there and just let things happen without bloodshed?

Israel is the terrorist NOW. We are not dealing with past tense here man.

Why you care so much about other people boycott? It doesn't affect Israel, and doesn't affect you.
Just because it involves muslims..
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If you think I'm the one who is getting confuse let me put this as plainly as possible.

When the ottoman empire started their conquest upon Christian Nation, It was a bloody war.
I'm sure heads were chop off, people were brutally skewered, massacre of body parts you get the picture, it's not a pleasant sight.
Same thing that is happening now in Israel with Palestine, it's not a pleasant sight.

I wouldn't be too quick to call either one as terrorist as both incidents are categories as War, same thing with the Malaya Japanese war. The Nazi War, The American British War, etc.

All war are brutal. Whether the war happened in the past, 10 years ago, or even the future that is irrelevant. War is still War.

Why I care? if you care enough to create a propaganda that's designed to grab everyone's attention I think I have the right criticize you back as well, Moslem or not.

Can't take the heat, then concede the propaganda in defeat. Simple.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 03:05 PM)
Who is "they" knows? Malaysians knows? What is that going to do? Solve any problems or create a division?
Wrong or Right depends on each perspective.
The past is to teach you not for you to ignore unless you prefer to be ignorant.

Moslems who once participated in conquering war calling others terrorist?  smile.gif
Still blind to the fact that the only casualties are the malays working in McD? Suit yourself.
Israel not affected 1 inch.
Same thing with this boycott of McD, you need to wake up, not going to effect Israel.
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i guess you also ok with rebel ukraine or who ever shot down mh17 and not blame them coz they are at war.
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>Fight Isreal invasion.
>Why didn't Europeans submit without bloodshed to the Ottoman Empire.

>Top Kek

Seriously, you guys expect only Muslims to fight back? Of course non-Muslims are going to fight back also. Nobody likes giving their land to suspicious forces.

UW is right. You lot are hypocritical.

And this boycotting is doing more harm than good. Not only your fellow Muslims are suffering from low sales, but your fellow Malaysians are getting hurt from fanatical car smashing shenanigans.

You know what? This whole boycott stuff is making things easier for our enemies. WE are dividing ourselves over petty issues and WE are growing weaker for it.

There is something called agree to disagree. Okay that's fine.
There is forcing to agree with pressure and guilt tripping

That's exactly what nightmare mothers/mother-in-laws do.



TLDR version: Boycott if you want. But don't FORCE people to boycott through public shaming and violence. No, calling names of people who don't agree with you (i.e UW) won't make you holier. It just makes you an incredibly petty person.
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QUOTE(Nebelung Valesti @ Aug 11 2014, 04:56 PM)
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You make it sounds as if Ukrainian war only objective is to shoot down MH17.

Stupid or not, you think?

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 11 2014, 05:03 PM)
>Fight Isreal invasion.
>Why didn't Europeans submit without bloodshed to the Ottoman Empire.

>Top Kek

Seriously, you guys expect only Muslims to fight back? Of course non-Muslims are going to fight back also. Nobody likes giving their land to suspicious forces.

UW is right. You lot are hypocritical.

And this boycotting is doing more harm than good. Not only your fellow Muslims are suffering from low sales, but your fellow Malaysians are getting hurt from fanatical car smashing shenanigans.

You know what? This whole boycott stuff is making things easier for our enemies. WE are dividing ourselves over petty issues and WE are growing weaker for it.

There is something called agree to disagree. Okay that's fine.
There is forcing to agree with pressure and guilt tripping

That's exactly what nightmare mothers/mother-in-laws do.
TLDR version: Boycott if you want. But don't FORCE people to boycott through public shaming and violence. No, calling names of people who don't agree with you (i.e UW) won't make you holier. It just makes you an incredibly petty person.
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Were you referring to my post? Since your UW talk about how the Ottomans were terrorist, why not the zionist? This is my point on the post to UW. I don't read much about the Ottomans, so I can't comment much on it. Whether they follow the rules or not, I don't know. Why exactly they did it, I don't know.
So lets see the one that is in our time, shall we?

No comments on boycott as I don't exactly support it.
I just prefer not to eat them due to health reasons. Maybe this is a blessings in disguise 😊
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 05:12 PM)
You make it sounds as if Ukrainian war only objective is to shoot down MH17.

Stupid or not, you think?
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nvm. just wondering..
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 04:48 PM)
If you think I'm the one who is getting confuse let me put this as plainly as possible.

When the ottoman empire started their conquest upon Christian Nation, It was a bloody war.
I'm sure heads were chop off, people were brutally skewered, massacre of body parts you get the picture, it's not a pleasant sight.
Same thing that is happening now in Israel with Palestine, it's not a pleasant sight.

I wouldn't be too quick to call either one as terrorist as both incidents are categories as War, same thing with the Malaya Japanese war. The Nazi War, The American British War, etc.

All war are brutal. Whether the war happened in the past, 10 years ago, or even the future that is irrelevant. War is still War.

Why I care? if you care enough to create a propaganda that's designed to grab everyone's attention I think I have the right criticize you back as well, Moslem or not.

Can't take the heat, then concede the propaganda in defeat. Simple.
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So you shouldn't say the Ottomans were terrorists as well right?

May I know what kind of propaganda that you are referring to? The boycott thing? Or zionist is a terrorist thing?

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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 11 2014, 05:26 PM)
So you shouldn't say the Ottomans were terrorists as well right?

May I know what kind of propaganda that you are referring to? The boycott thing? Or zionist is a terrorist thing?
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No I don't call the ottoman war as terrorist because it is war, army against army, it's conquest between nations. I've made that point clear.

Both.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 05:29 PM)
No I don't call the ottoman war as terrorist because it is war, army against army, it's conquest between nations. I've made that point clear.

Both.
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Ok noted.

Still, we should condemn the war that's happening now.

Cheers
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 11 2014, 05:03 PM)
>Fight Isreal invasion.
>Why didn't Europeans submit without bloodshed to the Ottoman Empire.

>Top Kek

Seriously, you guys expect only Muslims to fight back? Of course non-Muslims are going to fight back also. Nobody likes giving their land to suspicious forces.

UW is right. You lot are hypocritical.

And this boycotting is doing more harm than good. Not only your fellow Muslims are suffering from low sales, but your fellow Malaysians are getting hurt from fanatical car smashing shenanigans.

You know what? This whole boycott stuff is making things easier for our enemies. WE are dividing ourselves over petty issues and WE are growing weaker for it.

There is something called agree to disagree. Okay that's fine.
There is forcing to agree with pressure and guilt tripping

That's exactly what nightmare mothers/mother-in-laws do.
TLDR version: Boycott if you want. But don't FORCE people to boycott through public shaming and violence. No, calling names of people who don't agree with you (i.e UW) won't make you holier. It just makes you an incredibly petty person.
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good job. if only the police will take action on the idiots that did the prank video on the poor mcd staff.


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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Aug 11 2014, 05:32 PM)
Ok noted.

Still, we should condemn the war that's happening now.

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I'm curious on the boycott matter. Why do people care if a certain brand is being boycotted? Is their livelihood being affected by it? Are they one of those taukeh? Malaysia will not lose anything if we boycott those stuff, people will just bring the money elsewhere (hopefully local products).

Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell.

Not that I'm entirely with the boycott movement, but the sheer passion of defending those affected brands do ring my wonder bell. What is so important that those brands must be defended at all cost? If we don't eat McD we will just eat someplace else. Oh please, no bullcrap about you are worried of the job security of those people.
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My main concern is always the extremism of the boycott.
For example boycotting based on rumours and fears alone,
Raiding shops, sending threats to staff, smashing cars, ect.

Yes, their livelihood depends on it to a certain extent. Staff can find new job, franchisers invested so much into it. If new franchisee belum earn back the cost habis lah.

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My question was why do people care about the boycott to the extend that some people need to defend those brands wholeheartedly?
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I'm curious on the boycott matter. Why do people care if a certaini is being boycotteIsrael their livelihood being affected by it? Are they one of those taukeh? Malaysia will not lose anything if we boycott those stuff, people will just bring the money elsewhere (hopefully local products).

Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell.

Not that I'm entirely with the boycott movement, but the sheer passion of defending those affected brands do ring my wonder bell. What is so important that those brands must be defended at all cost? If we don't eat McD we will just eat someplace else. Oh please, no bullcrap about you are worried of the job security of those people.
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The question you should ask is why boycott in the first place?

Where's the proof McDonalds, Starbucks, HSBC, etc. supports Israel.

As far as I can see the whole boycott thing started from hearsay only.

But the damaged of boycott is getting serious and started to affect peoples lifehood.

Instead of hurting Israel, we are hurting ourselves. Thats why we are against all this stupid boycott.

You can boycott all you want as long as it does not affect other people.


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QUOTE(oucheev @ Aug 11 2014, 11:30 PM)
The question you should ask is why boycott in the first place?

Where's the proof McDonalds, Starbucks, HSBC, etc. supports Israel.

As far as I can see the whole boycott thing started from hearsay only.

But the damaged of boycott is getting serious and started to affect peoples lifehood.

Instead of hurting Israel, we are hurting ourselves. Thats why we are against all this stupid boycott.

You can boycott all you want as long as it does not affect other people.
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Why are you answering my question with a question? 6 lines of sentence but not even one word to answer my question. People have the right to choose what they use and don't use, if they chose to boycott McD then so be it. Freedom of choice and free will, no? Or do we all have to submit to whatever cult those Westerners bring to our shores?

Like I said, Malaysia will not lose anything. The money would just be redirected to some other place (again, hopefully 100% local companies), which in my opinion is better. How are we hurting ourself again? McD staff did not received their salary this month? What? Some crackpot even posted his calculations on how much Malaysia will lose from the boycott. Malaysia lose money from McD sales drop? Gotta be kidding me.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 11 2014, 08:30 PM)
I'm curious on the boycott matter. Why do people care if a certain brand is being boycotted? Is their livelihood being affected by it? Are they one of those taukeh? Malaysia will not lose anything if we boycott those stuff, people will just bring the money elsewhere (hopefully local products).

Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell.

Not that I'm entirely with the boycott movement, but the sheer passion of defending those affected brands do ring my wonder bell. What is so important that those brands must be defended at all cost? If we don't eat McD we will just eat someplace else. Oh please, no bullcrap about you are worried of the job security of those people.
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this. it's just like being an androidfags who hates ifags and vice versa tongue.gif

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then this happen

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QUOTE(drowning @ Aug 5 2014, 02:28 PM)
So now the jews park along Gaza for 8 day truce with Hamas.

Wonder until when can Hamas tahan without lobbing one over??
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QUOTE(drowning @ Aug 5 2014, 02:28 PM)
So now the jews park along Gaza for 8 day truce with Hamas.

Wonder until when can Hamas tahan without lobbing one over??
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Drowning

QUOTE(red streak @ Aug 5 2014, 03:38 PM)
Nice. It was Ottoman to begin with. The British conquered it. They then decided to give it to the Jews and Transjordan and help set up some arab country (I think it was Saudi Arabia) in return for their help (in forming a Jewish Homeland) by fighting against the Ottomans. It was never the "Palestinians'". As the saying goes, the Strong Prosper. Might is Right. Yada yada.
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Thanks i now fully understand the history. Last time there were partial history info. Yhe knowledge is now complete.

QUOTE(Baronic @ Aug 5 2014, 05:01 PM)
30 days for repeat offence
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Berita | Pemuda 23 tahun ditembak di Nablus

Tentera Israel menembak seorang pemuda Palestin di Tebing Barat pada hari ini dalam satu serbuan di rumahnya berhampiran bandar Nablus.

Saksi berkata Zakaria al-Aqra, 23 tahun telah ditembak mati dan 6 yang lain cedera dalam serangan itu, termasuk tiga kanak-kanak perempuan berusia 4, 7 dan 15 tahun.

Tentera Israel juga bertindak memusnahkan rumah keluarga Al-Aqra dengan menggunakan jentolak. Ini merupakan korban ke-3 di Tebing Barat dalam masa 4 hari.

Sumber: Reuters, Al-Akhbar [AKA]



Zionist K komen sikit

zionist want hamas stop rocket

but zionist themself wont stop stealing ppl house trolololol


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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 11 2014, 11:43 PM)
Why are you answering my question with a question? 6 lines of sentence but not even one word to answer my question. People have the right to choose what they use and don't use, if they chose to boycott McD then so be it. Freedom of choice and free will, no? Or do we all have to submit to whatever cult those Westerners bring to our shores?

Like I said, Malaysia will not lose anything. The money would just be redirected to some other place (again, hopefully 100% local companies), which in my opinion is better. How are we hurting ourself again? McD staff did not received their salary this month? What? Some crackpot even posted his calculations on how much Malaysia will lose from the boycott. Malaysia lose money from McD sales drop? Gotta be kidding me.
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Did you read my last 2 lines. I am saying you got the right to boycott anything you want as long as you do not force people to follow you. In the first place, why are you boycotting Mcd? If you say you are against Mcd supporting Israel, then I ask you where's the concrete proof?

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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 11 2014, 08:30 PM)
I'm curious on the boycott matter. Why do people care if a certain brand is being boycotted? Is their livelihood being affected by it? Are they one of those taukeh? Malaysia will not lose anything if we boycott those stuff, people will just bring the money elsewhere (hopefully local products).

Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell.

Not that I'm entirely with the boycott movement, but the sheer passion of defending those affected brands do ring my wonder bell. What is so important that those brands must be defended at all cost? If we don't eat McD we will just eat someplace else. Oh please, no bullcrap about you are worried of the job security of those people.
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It's not like I'm against of Palestine or whatever, I'm against of the boycotting for many freaking reason,

(1) violence took place during boycotting. smash windows, scold workers or whatever.

(2) they are just workers there yet they get to be treated like they helped those terrorist. my god..

(3) boycott just stop eating it, what's with the gathering of people and scaring customers away.

IF above mention comments is not enough, read this like -> GET SOLID PROVE (DOCUMENTS or whatever) that EVERY McChicken i eat contribute to a bullet fired, i will surely, joining the boycott team and u can do whatever u like. (this won't happen cause you guys just follow the crowd with no prove and just because McD is jewish).

in order to be fair, boy-cotters please stop using FB too, Mark Zuckerberg is also Jewish.

stop using your Internet, Dell PC, and the lists goes on.

good luck guys, it's not that i care, but the way we (i'm using this for 1Malaysia) act makes people feel like we're living on trees.

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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 11 2014, 08:30 PM)
I'm curious on the boycott matter. Why do people care if a certain brand is being boycotted? Is their livelihood being affected by it? Are they one of those taukeh? Malaysia will not lose anything if we boycott those stuff, people will just bring the money elsewhere (hopefully local products).

Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell.

Not that I'm entirely with the boycott movement, but the sheer passion of defending those affected brands do ring my wonder bell. What is so important that those brands must be defended at all cost? If we don't eat McD we will just eat someplace else. Oh please, no bullcrap about you are worried of the job security of those people.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 11 2014, 11:43 PM)
Why are you answering my question with a question? 6 lines of sentence but not even one word to answer my question. People have the right to choose what they use and don't use, if they chose to boycott McD then so be it. Freedom of choice and free will, no? Or do we all have to submit to whatever cult those Westerners bring to our shores?

Like I said, Malaysia will not lose anything. The money would just be redirected to some other place (again, hopefully 100% local companies), which in my opinion is better. How are we hurting ourself again? McD staff did not received their salary this month? What? Some crackpot even posted his calculations on how much Malaysia will lose from the boycott. Malaysia lose money from McD sales drop? Gotta be kidding me.
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bro, a lil facepalm there, firstly you mentioned that "Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell." then after that u mentioned "Freedom of choice and free will, no? Or do we all have to submit to whatever cult those Westerners bring to our shores?" , firstly freedom of choice and u guys boycott, fine. but for no apparent reason u guys boycott fine, and we are not supporting the boycott, and u ask why we care so much if those brands close shop, i wanna eat mcd but it's not that we support the war dude..

u boycott then close shop how? no mcchicken for me already ! sad.gif

shorter queue for me now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Aug 12 2014, 08:27 AM)
Did you read my last 2 lines. I am saying you got the right to boycott anything you want as long as you do not force people to follow you. In the first place, why are you boycotting Mcd?  If you say you are against Mcd supporting Israel,  then I ask you where's the concrete proof?
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trust me, he'll be like "I wanna boycott then boycott la, freedom of speech" or maybe "why we boycott you against it? it will affect you meh?"

that's the 2 things he could mentioned o.o i wanna see what could he say haha
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QUOTE(rhkk91 @ Aug 12 2014, 10:11 AM)
It's not like I'm against of Palestine or whatever, I'm against of the boycotting for many freaking reason,

(1) violence took place during boycotting. smash windows, scold workers or whatever.

(2) they are just workers there yet they get to be treated like they helped those terrorist. my god..

(3) boycott just stop eating it, what's with the gathering of people and scaring customers away.

IF above mention comments is not enough, read this like -> GET SOLID PROVE (DOCUMENTS or whatever) that EVERY McChicken i eat contribute to a bullet fired, i will surely, joining the boycott team and u can do whatever u like. (this won't happen cause you guys just follow the crowd with no prove and just because McD is jewish).

in order to be fair, boy-cotters please stop using FB too, Mark Zuckerberg is also Jewish.

stop using your Internet, Dell PC, and the lists goes on.

good luck guys, it's not that i care, but the way we (i'm using this for 1Malaysia) act makes people feel like we're living on trees.
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If everyone can think properly, then Malaysia won't so mundur ad la...... sigh.
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 11 2014, 11:43 PM)
Why are you answering my question with a question? 6 lines of sentence but not even one word to answer my question. People have the right to choose what they use and don't use, if they chose to boycott McD then so be it. Freedom of choice and free will, no? Or do we all have to submit to whatever cult those Westerners bring to our shores?

Like I said, Malaysia will not lose anything. The money would just be redirected to some other place (again, hopefully 100% local companies), which in my opinion is better. How are we hurting ourself again? McD staff did not received their salary this month? What? Some crackpot even posted his calculations on how much Malaysia will lose from the boycott. Malaysia lose money from McD sales drop? Gotta be kidding me.
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You can boycott all you want, but not demo to this extent:
http://hype.my/newsdesk/mcdonalds-malaysia...-to-malaysians/

It's like Malaysians = Barbarians. I don't really mind if you choose to boycott, but stop hurting the staffs? That's why I am against this demo, I don't mind if the boycott continues on but STOP the barbaric acts
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 05:12 PM)
You make it sounds as if Ukrainian war only objective is to shoot down MH17.

Stupid or not, you think?
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Give him the isis crisis treatment whistling.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 11 2014, 05:12 PM)
You make it sounds as if Ukrainian war only objective is to shoot down MH17.

Stupid or not, you think?
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UW, knowing our coconut level reputation that is probably what some people believe.
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No I don't call the ottoman war as terrorist because it is war, army against army, it's conquest between nations. I've made that point clear.

Both.
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Lol someone tot someone say Ottoman is terrorist. So farney!!!!

I didnt read whole thread also didnt assume that suddenly got such accusation. Shocking!
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 12 2014, 02:59 PM)
UW, knowing our coconut level reputation that is probably what some people believe.
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QUOTE(cksiah @ Aug 11 2014, 05:43 PM)
good job. if only the police will take action on the idiots that did the prank video on the poor mcd staff.
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Can i have the video link pls
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cant access fb at work place. not sure if youtube still have or taken down already.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 12 2014, 02:59 PM)
UW, knowing our coconut level reputation that is probably what some people believe.
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u know i tried to see from UW view. to him, war is war. war is brutal. there is no law to follow in war be it in ancient time or modern time. there is no right thing to do and no wrong thing to do during war which ever era you live. so, we should not condemn the war and any party that involved in the war. if they killed innocent people intentionally or not we should not critics because they having war. that is what i understand from his view la.. he can call isis as extremist but cannot condemn what israel done. he condemn people who condemn the war insted..

he care so much about the rally thing and prayforgaza thing and said those not move even 1 inch the israel. yet, why he care? his care dont even move 1 inch those boycotters. i wonder during ottoman empire do boycotting need manner or not? i know during china boycott japan dont have manner also.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Aug 12 2014, 08:27 AM)
Did you read my last 2 lines. I am saying you got the right to boycott anything you want as long as you do not force people to follow you. In the first place, why are you boycotting Mcd?  If you say you are against Mcd supporting Israel,  then I ask you where's the concrete proof?
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I agree with the not forcing other people. It is wrong and shouldn't be happening at all. What if I say I boycott McD because their food is really unhealthy? Am I still a mindless sheep because I boycott some American product based on a valid reason?

QUOTE(rhkk91 @ Aug 12 2014, 10:11 AM)
It's not like I'm against of Palestine or whatever, I'm against of the boycotting for many freaking reason,

(1) violence took place during boycotting. smash windows, scold workers or whatever.

(2) they are just workers there yet they get to be treated like they helped those terrorist. my god..

(3) boycott just stop eating it, what's with the gathering of people and scaring customers away.

IF above mention comments is not enough, read this like -> GET SOLID PROVE (DOCUMENTS or whatever) that EVERY McChicken i eat contribute to a bullet fired, i will surely, joining the boycott team and u can do whatever u like. (this won't happen cause you guys just follow the crowd with no prove and just because McD is jewish).

in order to be fair, boy-cotters please stop using FB too, Mark Zuckerberg is also Jewish.

stop using your Internet, Dell PC, and the lists goes on.

good luck guys, it's not that i care, but the way we (i'm using this for 1Malaysia) act makes people feel like we're living on trees.
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Read my post above. Why do I need to stop using the internet again?

QUOTE(rhkk91 @ Aug 12 2014, 10:16 AM)
bro, a lil facepalm there, firstly you mentioned that "Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell." then after that u mentioned "Freedom of choice and free will, no? Or do we all have to submit to whatever cult those Westerners bring to our shores?" , firstly freedom of choice and u guys boycott, fine. but for no apparent reason u guys boycott fine, and we are not supporting the boycott, and u ask why we care so much if those brands close shop, i wanna eat mcd but it's not that we support the war dude..

u boycott then close shop how? no mcchicken for me already ! sad.gif

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I'm not denying you of your rights to feed yourself with McChicken, by all means do stuff yourself full with it. So you are defending those brands because you like it? Is that it? So far I have not heard of a case where somebody kick the bucket because he was denied his McD burgers.

QUOTE(aleluya @ Aug 12 2014, 12:03 PM)
You can boycott all you want, but not demo to this extent:
http://hype.my/newsdesk/mcdonalds-malaysia...-to-malaysians/

It's like Malaysians = Barbarians. I don't really mind if you choose to boycott, but stop hurting the staffs? That's why I am against this demo, I don't mind if the boycott continues on but STOP the barbaric acts
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Fully agree with you. Violence shouldn't be a part of the boycott at the first place. But you know lah, Malaysians all monkeys one.
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I agree with the not forcing other people. It is wrong and shouldn't be happening at all. What if I say I boycott McD because their food is really unhealthy? Am I still a mindless sheep because I boycott some American product based on a valid reason?
Read my post above. Why do I need to stop using the internet again?
I'm not denying you of your rights to feed yourself with McChicken, by all means do stuff yourself full with it. So you are defending those brands because you like it? Is that it? So far I have not heard of a case where somebody kick the bucket because he was denied his McD burgers.
Fully agree with you. Violence shouldn't be a part of the boycott at the first place. But you know lah, Malaysians all monkeys one.
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Some of those boycotter are just following the trend sadly, boycott Isreal is not their main intention but using the boycott and religion to justify violence acts
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Some of those boycotter are just following the trend sadly, boycott Isreal is not their main intention but using the boycott and religion to justify violence acts
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It's like for example :

Religion A bully Religion B.

A Person with Religion B likes violence and takes advantage of the situation, randomly bully other person with Religion A . When ask why he bully , reply with he did it for his religion , thus indirectly hiding his true intention.
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I think he means will you care if Palestinians are not Muslims.

By the way, why are you boycotting McD again? No one has shown any credible evidence on McD supporting Israel.

If you boycott McD because of health reasons, then I applaud you. After watching Supersize Me, I know how bad McD is for your health.

But if you boycott McD because of Gaza, then you are just following trend!
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 12 2014, 06:33 PM)
I agree with the not forcing other people. It is wrong and shouldn't be happening at all. What if I say I boycott McD because their food is really unhealthy? Am I still a mindless sheep because I boycott some American product based on a valid reason?
Read my post above. Why do I need to stop using the internet again?
I'm not denying you of your rights to feed yourself with McChicken, by all means do stuff yourself full with it. So you are defending those brands because you like it? Is that it? So far I have not heard of a case where somebody kick the bucket because he was denied his McD burgers.
Fully agree with you. Violence shouldn't be a part of the boycott at the first place. But you know lah, Malaysians all monkeys one.
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how am i defending those brands?

i'm against the riot, not defending McD..

for example, when a guy A rob the bank, and i stop the guy robbing the bank, and at the end you blame me for supporting the bank, EVEN though the bank is doing bad stuff or whatever that the robbers CLAIMS. (interest high or whatever) and at the end of the day, i just stop the guy A from robbing the bank. not supporting the bank.

McD has been here for soooooo long, and your statement "what if i say i boycott mcd just because food is unhealthy?" really bro? if deep down your heart is boycotting that way, i could just sit here and laugh at you. and u know why? you should stop eating out anyway, cause whatever is there there, KFC, Pizza Hut or WHATEVER.. you boycott it la duh.. boycott all, and cook yourself.. oh ya, you should plant your own vegetables and etc.. instead of ranting here cause we stop the act of boycott..

btw bro..

here's a good read

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3318798

now that's what I call civilized

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inb4 Palestinian ambassador is a double-agent tongue.gif

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[File photo] 'Freedom Flotilla Coalition decided that in light of the complicity of government in Israel's crimes,
the civil society should take responsibility for challenging the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.'

13 countries to send convoy to break siege on Gaza

Turkish human rights organisations and activists from 12 countries announced their intention to send a fleet to challenge the blockade imposed by Israel on the Gaza Strip.

The organisations involved in the fleet did not specify the date it would set sail but the Humanitarian Relief Foundation (IHH), which launched the Mavi Marmara in 2010, said in a statement that the "coalition" including activists from 12 countries who gathered in Istanbul during the week and discussed sending a fleet to break the blockade on the Gaza Strip.

The statement added: "Freedom Flotilla Coalition decided that in light of the complicity of government in Israel's crimes, the civil society should take responsibility for challenging the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip."

The Freedom Flotilla, which was launched in May 2010 to provide humanitarian aid to the besieged Gaza Strip, was attacked by Israel. Forces took control of the Mavi Marmara and killed 10 Turkish activists aboard ship. This incident is still hampering the normalisation of relations between Israel and Turkey.

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kerana roket tabuli sampai target.  

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ye ke bang yakin je tu...dari hospital. pnh pg sane ke

but if u zionist i kenot say la. must be true trololol

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ye ke bang yakin je tu...dari hospital. pnh pg sane ke

but if u zionist i kenot say la. must be true trololol
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So I xpernah pg sana u pernah? mcm yakin je xtembak hospital

But if you kambing I kenot say la. Must be true trololol

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It's like for example :

Religion A bully Religion B.

A Person with Religion B likes violence and takes advantage of the situation, randomly bully other person with Religion A . When ask why he bully , reply with he did it for his religion , thus indirectly hiding his true intention.
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So you are saying Islam is using this issue to bully the Jews?

QUOTE(oucheev @ Aug 12 2014, 10:44 PM)
I think he means will you care if Palestinians are not Muslims.

By the way, why are you boycotting McD again? No one has shown any credible evidence on McD supporting Israel.

If you boycott McD because of health reasons, then I applaud you. After watching Supersize Me, I know how bad McD is for your health.

But if you boycott McD because of Gaza, then you are just following trend!
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Why do people think we only care because they are Muslims? So all those people around the world who seek justice for this cause is a Muslim? Not sure if truly blind or being clinically selective. Following trend? Lel sorry I'm not one of those Bersih retards.

QUOTE(rhkk91 @ Aug 13 2014, 03:50 PM)
how am i defending those brands?

i'm against the riot, not defending McD..

for example, when a guy A rob the bank, and i stop the guy robbing the bank, and at the end you blame me for supporting the bank, EVEN though the bank is doing bad stuff or whatever that the robbers CLAIMS. (interest high or whatever) and at the end of the day, i just stop the guy A from robbing the bank. not supporting the bank.

McD has been here for soooooo long, and your statement "what if i say i boycott mcd just because food is unhealthy?" really bro? if deep down your heart is boycotting that way, i could just sit here and laugh at you. and u know why? you should stop eating out anyway, cause whatever is there there, KFC, Pizza Hut or WHATEVER.. you boycott it la duh.. boycott all, and cook yourself.. oh ya, you should plant your own vegetables and etc.. instead of ranting here cause we stop the act of boycott..

btw bro..

here's a good read

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3318798

now that's what I call civilized

inb4 star support Isreal tongue.gif
inb4 Palestinian ambassador is a double-agent tongue.gif
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If you are not defending the brands then you are straying way off here buddy. My initial question was why people defend those brands. You answered that question with this nonsense? I already said I'm against the riot and the violence, I'm with you on that. Period. Stop telling me to go against what I'm already against, it's useless. Now I need to know the answered to my initial question.

Just so you know I don't eat all those garbage you just listed. Is there only fast food in Malaysia? Really? Where do you live? You do know we have thousands if not millions of awesome food restaurant/stalls which is way healthier than those poisonous crap on your list. Homecook food bro, saves me money and I know what I eat. KFC Pizza Hut McD? Ewwwwwwww...
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because hamas use school to shelter weapon & military strategy exercise. Has use children shield as their front line.
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because hamas use school to shelter weapon & military strategy exercise. Has use children shield as their front line.
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i thought hamas ALWAYS target other people house, shopping malls, schools, buses and hospitals?
they are terrorists, they always target civilians though

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i thought hamas ALWAYS target other people house, shopping malls, schools, buses and hospitals?
they are terrorists, they always target civilians though
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but that's cause their rockets suck, not that they're humane or anything.
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they don't
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bus bombings by hamas, no rockets being used. All different attacks. All target civilians.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/20/world/at...en-silence.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/31/mideast/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Street_bus_bombing
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/20/world/bo...usalem-bus.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05...deast.violence/
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kuikuikuikui masuuuuk

i thought u said itu palestine punya terrorist very human punya?

then wololololo go and bomb civilian bus buatpe
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 13 2014, 08:57 PM)
So you are saying Islam is using this issue to bully the Jews?
Why do people think we only care because they are Muslims? So all those people around the world who seek justice for this cause is a Muslim? Not sure if truly blind or being clinically selective. Following trend? Lel sorry I'm not one of those Bersih retards.
If you are not defending the brands then you are straying way off here buddy. My initial question was why people defend those brands. You answered that question with this nonsense? I already said I'm against the riot and the violence, I'm with you on that. Period. Stop telling me to go against what I'm already against, it's useless. Now I need to know the answered to my initial question.

Just so you know I don't eat all those garbage you just listed. Is there only fast food in Malaysia? Really? Where do you live? You do know we have thousands if not millions of awesome food restaurant/stalls which is way healthier than those poisonous crap on your list. Homecook food bro, saves me money and I know what I eat. KFC Pizza Hut McD? Ewwwwwwww...
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this seems funny, you wanna seek justice for this cause fine with it, then u come bring in bersih (which i don't participate anyway), that is totally double standard, meaning to say u can boycott, and say u dont feel like following thrend, and now u go and condemn bersih..

listen to your own words, i'm currently standing very neutral, i don't mind boycotting and i just mind the riot and havoc caused.

"Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell."

i don't mind at all btw, the McChicken thing was trolling btw. I don't really care if McD close down or whatever. Period. you can go all out boycotting all you want. but at the first place you shouldn't even judge people who doesn't support boycott anyway, since you want people to judge you the same. you'd better do the same.

i dont join bersih, nor the boycott. end of story.

and you made it look like yourself all right while others who doing the same as you is wrong just so you know. haha
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QUOTE(rhkk91 @ Aug 14 2014, 09:54 AM)
this seems funny, you wanna seek justice for this cause fine with it, then u come bring in bersih (which i don't participate anyway), that is totally double standard, meaning to say u can boycott, and say u dont feel like following thrend, and now u go and condemn bersih..

listen to your own words, i'm currently standing very neutral, i don't mind boycotting and i just mind the riot and havoc caused.

"Why do you care so much if those brands close shop? Do tell."

i don't mind at all btw, the McChicken thing was trolling btw. I don't really care if McD close down or whatever. Period. you can go all out boycotting all you want. but at the first place you shouldn't even judge people who doesn't support boycott anyway, since you want people to judge you the same. you'd better do the same.

i dont join bersih, nor the boycott. end of story.

and you made it look like yourself all right while others who doing the same as you is wrong just so you know. haha
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Sorry son but you I have no idea what you just said. You seems to be in a discussion of your own with yourself. If you don't care then please quote or have your discussion with somebody else. I just need an answer on my initial question. Everything else is not my primary concern. If you don't care then fine, please be on your way.

I want to know why do people care, not if you care or not. If you don't then please, go troll your McChicken someplace else. Do you get what I'm saying?
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 14 2014, 09:30 PM)
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Sorry son but you I have no idea what you just said. You seems to be in a discussion of your own with yourself. If you don't care then please quote or have your discussion with somebody else. I just need an answer on my initial question. Everything else is not my primary concern. If you don't care then fine, please be on your way.

I want to know why do people care, not if you care or not. If you don't then please, go troll your McChicken someplace else. Do you get what I'm saying?
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why do people care about McD am i right? and your reason for people not to care about McD just because it's unhealthy, am i right? ok cool, just ask those monkeys out there stop going riot around stationing in front of McD and act violence or whatever, just boycott (just dont eat) will do.. then i guess people wouldn't care much about McD anymore

hope it solves your INITIAL question of why people care about McD closing down..
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u can see the people who are actually (your so called) "defending" McD are mostly against the riot or monkeys making Malaysian look like a fool , if you know what i mean
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QUOTE(d3m0n @ Aug 14 2014, 09:30 PM)
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Sorry son but you I have no idea what you just said. You seems to be in a discussion of your own with yourself. If you don't care then please quote or have your discussion with somebody else. I just need an answer on my initial question. Everything else is not my primary concern. If you don't care then fine, please be on your way.

I want to know why do people care, not if you care or not. If you don't then please, go troll your McChicken someplace else. Do you get what I'm saying?
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and btw, at the very end of the day I could just use the same way of asking question, it's just unhealthy, why should you boycott? but i wouldn't ask such questions as it would be the same as your "why would people care about mcd going down, because it's unhealthy shit"

and at the end u just use the reason of "unhealthy" to support the boycott while others could use, "it's just unhealthy, many more food are wayyyy more unhealthy too though"

when you wanna support a side, do not question about people who oppose your side, cause they will have a reason, and you will have a reason..

at the end of the day, it's just different opinion in seeing things
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Bersangka baik. IDF bravely rescued the child from a Hamas Terrorist Den and led him to safety first before untying him notworthy.gif
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When the naji were killing the joo, the pelestn helped them; what they get in return?!
What is this world? Ppl support killers killing ppl?
Tontonlah rancangan tanah kubur; sbg peringatan. Pencetus ummah pun boleh juga.
Esok kau akan mati! Habislah, hahaha.
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Karnit Flug, the governor of Bank of Israel, said that the damage resulting from Operation Protective Edge would be up to NIS 5 billion, or 0.5% of GDP, but that Israel would recover in a timely manner. "Experience shows that the economy is immune at the macro level, and recovers fairly quickly, although it is clear that people have been hurt, especially residents of the south, small businesses, and people affected by the issued emergency call-up orders," she said.

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On the other hand, the Ministry of Defense is demanding extra NIS 6-8 million in compensation for Operation Protective Edge. At a press conference today, Israel's Minister of Finance Yair Lapid said, "We won't raise taxes. The economy needs growth engines right now, not handicap weights. There's no reason to raise taxes at this time, however, it will be necessary to decide next year about taxes. The defense requirements resulting from this operation are liable to grow, among other things, and the government will have to decide whether to raise taxes or cut civilian spending in 2015."

In its monetary report published this week, the Bank of Israel's Research Department economists stated that as a result of the war, the government would not be able to meet the deficit target (2.5% of GDP) without a tax hike and budget cuts or postponements in spending programs. And while the Israeli hi-tech economy looks set to emerge largely unscathed, its month-long war with Hamas in Gaza has added fuel to a Palestinian boycott movement which may damage investor sentiment towards Israel at the margins.

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Though the boycott movement will not hole Israel's economy below the water line, they have the potential to sour confidence. Alex Joffe, a Middle East historian who tracks international action against Israel, predicts the Gaza conflict will power the nascent consumer and business backlash, citing recent steps taken by companies in Belgium and Britain, among others. "These moves, plus growing anti-semitic protests and attacks throughout Europe, suggest that when the fighting in Gaza stops, Israel will be targeted for economic boycotts, in international forums, and in other contexts like colleges and universities," he wrote in a commentary.

But the damages can be controlled. Israel's broader economy is built on hi-tech innovation, pharmaceuticals and engineering. In that sense, until people start boycotting agricultural technologies, computer sciences, electronics, genetics, medical sciences, optics, solar energy and various fields of engineering, Israel's economic survival remains guaranteed. To effectively cripple the economy of Israel, there would have to be a complete boycott of technological giants the likes of Intel, Microsof, IBM, Cisco Systems, Motorola, and the global discontinued usage of solar energy, satellites, aeroplanes, irrigation, computers, electro-optics, communication devices and medicines, since many technologies formulated in Israel are integrated into these devices.

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"The economy is not completely isolated from these (boycott) things, but certain elements such as the hi-tech sectors, are keeping Israel strong, and that's where the foreign direct investment is going," said Paul Gamble, the director of sovereign ratings at Fitch, a credit ratings agency. "I'm comfortable that will continue, as the world demands technological evolution all the time." Citibank agreed, "We're not at the stage of BDS impairing investment in Israel - there's a pretty captive audience of investors willing to invest in Israeli pharma or hi-tech," said the bank in a note.

And it is the Asians who are now attracted to Israel's technological prowess. Li Ka Shing, Asia's richest man, for instance, has become one of Israel's biggest foreign investors. Li has pumped cash into Israeli start-up companies such as Waze, Tippa, Magisto, Ra'anana, Wibbitz, Onavo, as well as Wibbitz, CorePhotonics and other 20 Israeli companies, not to mention the $130 million donation to Israel's Technion Institute of Technology. Some recent billion-dollar acquisition include China's Bright Food for Israeli food conglomerate Tnuva, prompting Israeli Economics Minister, Naftali Bennett to say that Israel is shifting its economic resources to "China, China China."

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Unexpected boost from the East: Li Ka Shing leads Chinese investors to Israel

In East Asia, where Jewish achievements is highly admired for, investors are pouring capital into Israeli start-up. According to Israel's Economy Ministry, Asia is set to beat out the United States as the major destination for Israeli exports, after Europe in 2014, with over 21% of exports now headed East, and it is likely to assume that Li Ka Shing had played a part in that. This assessment is paired with facts on the ground, which show increased cooperation and interest in all aspects of Israeli tech from countries like China, Japan and South Korea. As Israeli Chief Scientist Avi Hasson told Bloomberg News: "We are seeing more and more Chinese activity in Israeli high tech. Investment in venture capital by strategic and institutional Chinese investors, direct investments in companies and also acquisitions."

Still, the war has serious impact on the tourism and service industries. When he opened his Jerusalem restaurant last year, former butcher Pini Levi drew national acclaim for his dish of coiled, battered and fried spinal cord served with a fiery hot sauce. But over this summer of war in Gaza, Levi said his German Colony restaurant, Pini's Kitchen, has taken such a drubbing he may have to close. "We lost 70 % of our business. We can't get on like this," Levi said. "It's been two months, and we don't see the end."

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To cripple Israel economy, the world needs to abandon technologies and medicines

Businesses in cities near and far from Gaza have contracted over the summer, and business leaders are anxiously watching the cease-fire negotiations to see if they will get relief. Pini Shani, director of incoming tourism at the Ministry of Tourism, said business was down about 20% in July, the latest month for which he has figures. But even with the war now winding down, the months ahead don't look much better. Many groups have canceled trips for September, October and November, and other tourists have avoided making future bookings. In the 2006 Lebanon war, it took 9 months for Israeli tourism to recover.

To counter the dip in this year's figures, Shani said his office is plowing 100 million shekels - about US$29 million - in marketing Israel to the United States, Russia and Europe. "We don't mention security directly," he said. "We market how pleasant Israel is, and we assume the tourist knows how to evaluate security. Also, if there is a cease-fire, the security situation will calm down and those messages will not be as relevant." Other sectors battered by the summer operation include the service industries, industry and retail, and agricultural production in southern Israel. Chen Peretz, a spokesman for the Finance Ministry, said the government has a compensation fund for businesses up to about 25 miles from Gaza.

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Gaza announced that the scale of damages is 200% of GDP, economy now dead

Damage to the Israeli economy however, pales in scope and impact to the damage in Gaza, which Palestinian Deputy Prime Minister Mohammad Mustafa estimated to be about US$6 billion - 200% the size of the Gazan economy. Deputy economy minister Taysir Amro said the figure included only "direct damages" to the Gaza and warned it could climb further once additional impacts on the 1.8 million population are taken into account. Business leaders said that 175 of Gaza's most successful industrial plants had also taken devastating hits, plunging an already despairing economy into a deeper abyss.

Ali Hayek, head of Gaza's federation of industries, said these factories directly provided perhaps 5,000 of the most stable jobs in this impoverished Palestinian sliver, where the latest estimates of unemployment are as high as 47 percent. The collateral damage is exponential: Sabha, Gaza's only producer of tomato paste, has contracts with 5,000 farmers, Mr. Hayek said. Legions of drivers will be without cargo. Rebuilding anything is that much harder with 63 construction companies offline, including several cement makers. "After 30 days of war, the economic situation has become, like, dead," said Mr. Hayek.


> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/13/...N0QI2CD20140813
> http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-boi-gov...-gdp-1000962120
> http://nocamels.com/2014/06/li-ka-shing-ho...gest-supporter/
> http://forward.com/articles/204118/operati...at-bottom-line/
> http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/21022
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China-Israel relationship going to blossom..
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zionist k x komplen pasal kuota masuk uni ke?
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QUOTE(kuikuikuikui @ Aug 17 2014, 09:29 PM)
zionist k x komplen pasal kuota masuk uni ke?
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dont care coz we already anticipate revenge from government from last PRU. only politician with nothing to do will whine.
most chinese already menabung for their kids since born for their eduction. palestine and israel more fun to troll major butthurt ppl
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QUOTE(edmunz @ Aug 17 2014, 09:33 PM)
dont care coz we already anticipate revenge from government from last PRU. only politician with nothing to do will whine.
most chinese already menabung for their kids since born for their eduction. palestine and israel more fun to troll major butthurt ppl
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biar betik bro don care?

can 100% masuk uni all meleis/bumi?
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Those dumbos can organize their version of Live Aid. Sure like to see how generous muslims are. Also would like to see Malaysia muslim band singing their version of Do they know it is Christmas time.. Oops what's muslim version of Xmas??? Or even We are the World. Oops again.... make it We are the Palestinians

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QUOTE(segamatboy @ Aug 17 2014, 09:50 PM)
Those dumbos can organize their version of Live Aid. Sure like to see how generous muslims are
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And the sad thing is that we can do only make a miniscule differences (boycott etc.) without having much impact on Gaza redevelopment or hurt Israel economy.
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QUOTE(edmunz @ Aug 17 2014, 09:33 PM)
dont care coz we already anticipate revenge from government from last PRU. only politician with nothing to do will whine.
most chinese already menabung for their kids since born for their eduction. palestine and israel more fun to troll major butthurt ppl
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50 years later still will have chinese betchin kenot get medic because STPM 9000 As.

wake up and buka mata besar-besar, please. your cina paling bagus rhetoric doesn't serve anyone including the chinese. dun ruin it for other chinese who are not picking stupid fights because they still want their grandchildren not to be treated like shit.
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How do we donate to aid Israel?
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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Aug 17 2014, 11:49 PM)
How do we donate to aid Israel?
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haha .. u r gonna git firing frm some k here.
u kenot simply say things they no syok oh ..
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haha .. u r gonna git firing frm some k here.
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1 hour d. Where's the firing? In Gaza ah?
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Aug 17 2014, 10:03 PM)
And the sad thing is that we can do only make a miniscule differences (boycott etc.) without having much impact on Gaza redevelopment or hurt Israel economy.
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We are hurting our own economy, our own citizen..

That is so call helping Palestinian..

Please lar.. No money, no power, want to fight people with bunch of money and weapon?? Wake up lar..
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really ah 0.5%? dun ever trust the terrorist, when caught they will spin story as usual
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this is what kind of boycott?

save them they kill your family, maybe hamas was hiding in their house also
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And generous Arab donation to gaza?
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Yea, good luck with that

inb4 boycott mcdonalds laugh.gif
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You need to bag from Israel to get the cure.
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dah kena ban berapa kali pun.

still sama modus operandi.

nampak tak permainan rivost.

lol.
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Sure la small damage to GDP, their enemy got nothing to fight back also.
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Aug 15 2014, 09:37 AM)
Meanwhile, in Iraq xde org kecoh

Owai cannot kecoh since same re

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You are really an idiot, there is absolutely 0 point in protesting a terrorist organization. Israel on the other hand is a UN member state with trade relations with most of the world, they can be pressured from abroad isis can't.
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QUOTE(anantha92 @ Aug 18 2014, 08:09 AM)
You are really an idiot, there is absolutely 0 point in protesting a terrorist organization. Israel on the other hand is a UN member state with trade relations with most of the world, they can be pressured from abroad isis can't.
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Since when did I imply "kecoh" means protest?

You really like to protest, ya? Sikit sikit also protest. McD also boycott, Tesco also boycott. In the end own Malaysians no job thanks to you ppl lel

And >implying you can "pressure" someone who is best friends with the only country who can veto anything UN does

You're really an idiot, aren't you?
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Aug 18 2014, 09:10 AM)
Since when did I imply "kecoh" means protest?

You really like to protest, ya? Sikit sikit also protest. McD also boycott, Tesco also boycott. In the end own Malaysians no job thanks to you ppl lel

And >implying you can "pressure" someone who is best friends with the only country who can veto anything UN does

You're really an idiot, aren't you?
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Again showing more of your idiocy, assuming for no reason that I am a boycotter, which I am not as i recognize it is incredibly stupid. Kecoh abviously means make a fuss which even though it is a little bit it is still pointless. Come back when you have a sound argument instead of assuming non sense.
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QUOTE(anantha92 @ Aug 18 2014, 10:27 AM)
Again showing more of your idiocy, assuming for no reason that I am a boycotter, which I am not as i recognize it is incredibly stupid. Kecoh abviously means make a fuss which even though it is a little bit it is still pointless. Come back when you have a sound argument instead of assuming non sense.
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eh you were the one who first assumed kecoh = protest

now ppl start assuming you're an idiot already then you complain.

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when i mentioned 'kecoh' i was partly referring to the local media's convenient lack of coverage in ISIS' tyranny. without proper coverage la you get all sorts of malaysians so gung ho wanna go syria help them out somemore.

and it is with too much biased coverage la that you get buggers who know how to boycott for no reason. just so you know, i'm not referring to you ha this time, lest you're not really intelligent enough to get it. just thinking aloud, you know

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