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Investment SKYLUXE ON THE PARK @ BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], SkyWorld. Design the Experience.

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post May 11 2016, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(johnleeisme2004 @ May 9 2016, 02:30 PM)
The sales person who served me told me since Management Corp will be formed under Strata Title Act, utilities will be under residential rate.  Anyone can confirm based on other projects?

EDIT: Now I remember, the above was not what the SA said.  What the SA said was, since this project is HDA compliance, so it's a residential project so the utilities rate will be those of residential's.
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All sales person are liars. They will lie on anything just to make a sale.

This is a serviced apartment, read

http://www.propsocial.my/topic/82/condomin...opsocial-editor

“Serviced apartments” are commercial units, fully-furnished, with services such as housekeeping, room service, and concierge. They are usually rented out for short-term or long term to tourists, business travellers, or expats. On the other hand, condos are private properties meant to be occupied by homeowners or long-term tenants. However, the lines are often blurred between the two types of properties these days.

The core difference is that the land status of condos is “residential”, whereas the land status of serviced apartments is “commercial”. The laws, regulations and functions surrounding these types of properties are quite different, and can affect buyers’ legal rights and lifestyles.

1. You pay different utility charges
Because of their land status, serviced apartments are charged commercial rates for utilities, which are much higher than residential rates. Deposits collected by utility companies are also higher. Some developers do try to work around this by negotiating with utility companies for lower rates. They may or may not be successful, so it pays to confirm this with the developer.

2. You pay different tax rates
Quit rent and assessment rates for serviced apartments are also calculated at commercial rates, much higher than condos. Some developers try to get lower rates by finding some loopholes in zoning laws to reclassify the apartments. But again, they may or may not succeed in doing so, so do check and make sure.

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post May 11 2016, 08:50 PM

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Why Skyluxe converted this land into commercial land, because they wanted to build more units and higher density!

http://www.propsocial.my/topic/82/condomin...opsocial-editor

4. You will have different population densities
Residential developments are built based on units or population per land size. However, commercial developments are based on plot ratio, which is the total built-up area per land size. This affects the number of neighbours you will have.
For example, say a developer gets permission to build a condominium based on a population of 1000 people per acre. Assuming 5 people live in a 1,000 square foot unit, a developer can only build a maximum of 200 units per acre of land.

One the other hand, let’s say a developer gets permission to build serviced apartments based on a plot ratio of 1:10. Now, for the same one acre of land (measuring about 44,000 square feet), the developer is allowed to build up to 440,000 square feet. That means developers can now easily build 400 units of 1,000 square foot apartments! Or even more, if they build smaller units.

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QUOTE(kenzo123 @ May 11 2016, 10:36 AM)
Hi everyone. I received this from SkyWorld on their preview event for SkyLuxe On The Park. Anyone else receiving this?
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Aren't you a property agent from that project?
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post May 12 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(mangoproperty @ May 12 2016, 09:31 AM)
Hi Boss, why are developers launching service apartments nowadays?
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Did you read the article I posted? Service apartment are higher density than residential.
Utility costs is also high so don't buy.
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post May 12 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Investor007 @ May 12 2016, 04:12 PM)
a serviced apartment without any good shoplot plan, and need to depend on other development's commercial lot?
it is ridiculous to built thing like this , then just sell to the people who are really need a house at that area......
god bless.. totally not worth for investment   bye.gif  bye.gif  bye.gif
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Agree. This is a greedy developer trying to max profit at expense of buyers.

Serviced apartment is only suitable if it's located on top of a shopping mall.

This is a cramped land with high density making entry/exit difficult.

Only speculators will buy it but they will find no buyers to flip in the future.

It will be a failed investment.

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post May 12 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ May 12 2016, 04:21 PM)
Means a lot of many many other service apartments without shops or mall below will die meh -.-"

So far my experience with commercial rate electricity and water all okay. There are brackets payment.

Your conclusion is service apartments are solely for speculators. Any figures or numbers or facts to support yr statement?
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It's common sense. Do people want to pay lower rate or higher rate for utility? rolleyes.gif

Do people want to live in lower density residential or higher density residential? rolleyes.gif

The only advantage of serviced apartment is the shopping center is downstairs on the same building.
That's for lazy people or for people who rent out to tourists.

If the shopping center is not even downstairs, why pay more for less space?

Do you have any figures or numbers or facts to support your claim that commercial rate is 'okay'? shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(johnleeisme2004 @ May 12 2016, 05:10 PM)
Anyone has info about the sales so far?  I text-ed and asked the SA and he told me that 45% are booked (i.e with payment of RM15k booking).  They are now confirming with the buyers to see if there is any cancellation before opening up the rest of the units to the public. 

One strange thing about this project is they don't have any bumi unit at all.
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Those 45% are usually for their own people and fake advertising.

This is a trick in almost all developer sales I've been to who can't sell.

If there aren't any bumi unit, then there's something fishy. All project must have bumi lots.

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post May 12 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 12 2016, 09:47 PM)


- Bukit Jalil supplies, undeniably are alot alot, but you need to further study in detail what are the available sizes. SkyLuxe sizes are 661 sq ft onwards (1+1) and does not have sizes more than 1,214 sf (with exception of special units which finished).

661 sq ft is pigeon hole size. There are many units in Bukit Jalil bigger than this and renting cheaply.

Assessment will be higher because this is on commercial land. Don't mislead potential buyers
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post May 14 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ May 12 2016, 11:41 PM)
Guess you have not been into empire shoe boxes which are around 400 to 450 sq ft. -.-"

661 sq ft is fine and it's 1+1


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I am just stating the facts. Almost all the apartments I've seen in Bukit Jalil are 700 sq and above.

Just in case people here still want to buy this high density serviced apartment, read the article below

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...tell-investors/


Property developers that have made a pile from a great run in the last eight years are seeing miserable sales.


Buy at your own risk. Wait for fire sale.

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post May 14 2016, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 12 2016, 06:06 PM)
service apartment has it advantage.

can do business like arbnb. few of my retired friend hunting lrt units subsales.

ROI very high. Some double digit.
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There are many subsales in Bukit Jalil with much lower price than Skyluxe.
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post May 14 2016, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(johnleeisme2004 @ May 12 2016, 05:10 PM)
Anyone has info about the sales so far?  I text-ed and asked the SA and he told me that 45% are booked (i.e with payment of RM15k booking).  They are now confirming with the buyers to see if there is any cancellation before opening up the rest of the units to the public. 

One strange thing about this project is they don't have any bumi unit at all.
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read disappointing sales for developers.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...tell-investors/

Property developers that have made a pile from a great run in the last eight years are seeing miserable sales.

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post May 18 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(METALRAGE @ May 15 2016, 12:04 PM)
I just came from show unit looking at this area thinking to buy around here for own stay. I assumed it was resi title. Am surprised to read here its not.

IMO, it's not suited for investment. The prices and area are more suited for family instead of to lease out. Take up rate is <40% so far by my est.

Question. What is the effect of commercial title on these prices?
1) quit rent
2) assessment
3) water (isnt this hda get resi prices?)
4) electricity (isnt this hda get resi prices?)
5) internet
6) fire insurance
7) management fees
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Everything from government will be more expensive because serviced apt caters for tourists.
The only thing the same is internet charges because that's private.

Might as well buy KM2
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry79977310
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QUOTE(mthc @ May 17 2016, 11:42 AM)
He is comparing cicakman with superman
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Oh please! do you think skyluxe can fly? Both are in the same area.


Skyluxe is the cicakman with small land, high density and expensive service fees.

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post May 18 2016, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ May 17 2016, 11:25 AM)
Bro, dont make me laugh lah!
comparing Anjung Hijau with Skyluxe, sure or not?? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

We have watch batman Vs Superman, Iron man Vs Captain America
all same level as superhero. Dont compare Kancil with BMW lah~

If there is no Skyluxe, i wonder Anjung Hijau value will go higher or drop further~
Anjung Hijau should thankful that Skyluxe will boost the area value higher.
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Don't make me laugh. You're contradicting yourself

Kancil is small size just like Skyluxe. BMW is big size just like Anjung Hijau.
The land size of Anjung Hijau is 5 times bigger than Skyluxe with almost the same number of units.

Do you call living in Hong Kong with cramped space BMW versus living in USA in a spacious double storey Kancil? laugh.gif

Anjung Hijau has more land, lower density and bigger exit than Skyluxe although it's older.


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QUOTE(citacitata @ May 18 2016, 05:15 PM)
Erm. Why you seem over defensive over anjung hijau vs skyluxe?
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I am just telling the truth so that potential buyers are not tricked by property agents.
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QUOTE(DavidKool @ May 18 2016, 05:50 PM)
Rolling on the floor laughing ......

"BMW is big size just like Anjung Hijau"

Lol, if facade, layout, facilities not important, but just land size? Laugh laugh laugh loud. What about Parklane OUG? 4000+ units over big land, is Jaguar or Bentley?

Then Twin Arkz or The Treez, both small lands are not Mini Cooper but Viva?

Then ur KM2, big size high end condo is what? Vios or City while u maintain Anjung Hijau as BMW?
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You guys are a laughing lot. You think a kancil like Skyluxe can be called 'BMW'? puke.gif

Living in a pigeon hole with other pigeons is considered high class living? laugh.gif

Twin Ark, Treez, SKyluz all these are just pigeon holes just like Kancil.

If you apply makeup to an ugly woman, it's still not as good as a naturally beautiful woman without makeup
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ May 22 2016, 06:26 PM)
Boss how many % sold out??
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Never believe in what property agents say.

If sales are poor, do you really think they will tell you? laugh.gif
Do people really want to live in small pigeon holes with many pigeons on top and bottom of you?

Just read the newspaper reports I posted earlier.

Property market is bad so wait for prices to drop.


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post Jun 8 2016, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(pokeat @ May 30 2016, 05:59 PM)
Funny, I heard people say property price will drop since last decade.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Read below. Most of the people here who say 'buy' are actually property agents. don't trust them.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...ectoral-problem

Last year, the volume and value of property transactions in the residential, commercial and industrial subsectors registered year-on-year contractions. Crucially, the contractions were in the double digits.

In fact, 1Q2016 data released by Napic shows a similar trend. Total value of property transactions fell 17.9% from the previous corresponding period. On a quarterly basis, value of property transactions slid 10.7%.

All subsectors — residential, commercial, industrial, agricultural and development — were badly affected.

Maybank Investment Bank Research analyst Wong Wei Sum cautions that the slowdown in property transactions could be worse than expected, dragging beyond the typical two-year cycle.

“The current situation is like a slow death by a thousand cuts, especially for those with weak financials or non-developers who jumped into property development at the peak of the cycle,” she says.

Anecdotes abound on how weak the market has been. Since last year, property agents and valuers have been complaining about low volume of enquiries and deals done. The order of the day is still “wait and see” as potential homebuyers remain cautious.


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QUOTE(Lyforumer16 @ Jun 2 2016, 09:26 PM)
Skyluxe is one of the newly launched properties that strategically located. Direct accessible to the 80 acres park and Pavilion 2 mall is also within 10 minutes walk.

However, there is one concern with Skyluxe, that is there is a TNB  distribution substation (just less than 40 meters from the nearest block) transforming 33000Volt into 11000Volt. The substation is not a usual small single storey substation normally found in most taman. It is a two storey distribution substation ("pencawang pembahagian utama"in Malay) that generate some constant noise that might be noticeable at midnight when the surrounding is quite.

There are also high voltage (33000volt) underground cables near to the site. Some warning sign boards put up by TNB can be seen along the main road near the site.

It is highly probable that the radiation level will be higher. Could anyone who has a Gauss meter to measure the electric and magnetic field level? If the reading exceed 0.5miliGauss on average, it might impose higher risk to health. It is surprising that a residential building can be built so near to a substation that taking in high voltage.
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Radiation is the least of your concerns.

The cramped pigeon-hole space and expensive water, electricity rates are the ones who are going to kill you.
I heard the monthly maintenance fee is around RM400++

This is a serviced apartment on commercial land with higher number of units density than those on residential land.

Not a good buy unless you want to live in an expensive pigeon-hole.

You might as well buy a serviced apartment on top of Pavillion 2 itself. whistling.gif The Pavillion 2 has quite a number of serviced apartment for sale. At least this is within walking distance to Pavillion 2 downstairs.

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QUOTE(Lyforumer16 @ Jun 4 2016, 12:46 AM)
Could you elaborate more?
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That's because it is very high, more than 40 storeys high.

There are 8 storeys of car park. So if your car park is situated on 8th floor, you have to drive up and down 8 floors everyday. Good luck to people who stay there.

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