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post Jul 31 2014, 09:30 AM, updated 12y ago

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Hi guys, what do you think of same last name marriage?

This question is more towards chinese as some believes that it is not good to have same last name marriage (eg. Lee married Lee, Lim married Lim etc.).

Please also state your age and I hope there will be seniors who will also provide some of their thought.

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post Jul 31 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys, what do you thing of same first name marriage?

This question is more towards chinese as some believes that it is not good to have same first name marriage (eg. Lee married Lee, Lim married Lim etc.).

Please also state your age and I hope there will be seniors who will also provide some of their thought.
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thing thing thing thing thing thing........ or is it THINK?
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QUOTE(simpul @ Jul 31 2014, 09:34 AM)
thing thing thing thing thing thing........ or is it THINK?
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Oh yeah, typo. Thanks. tongue.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:36 AM

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Lee + Lee = Lees, mana sama...
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:36 AM

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English/Western educated might not give a damn on it
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys, what do you think of same first name marriage?

This question is more towards chinese as some believes that it is not good to have same first name marriage (eg. Lee married Lee, Lim married Lim etc.).

Please also state your age and I hope there will be seniors who will also provide some of their thought.
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Whats the problem with TAN Ah Lee marries CHONG Mei Lee?
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(berzerk @ Jul 31 2014, 09:37 AM)
Whats the problem with TAN Ah Lee marries CHONG Mei Lee?
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Tan Chong motors!!!
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:39 AM

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first name or last name ? laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Jul 31 2014, 09:36 AM)
English/Western educated might not give a damn on it
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Chinese educated won't give a damn too.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM

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It's not first name. That's your last name. Or surname.

They just don't want inbreeding. Same surnames of the past generally meant that you're related in some ways. Thus it's abhorred upon. That's all.
Others include olden days disputes, but those are rare.
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM

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fyi..itu bukan first name..surname is known as last name
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM

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dude, you can't differentiate between first name and last name?

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post Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM

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i know someone name TAN married to TAN. no problem.

i heard he dun give a fark
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:41 AM

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IT IS JUST A NAME. Change the name, problem solved.
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:42 AM

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Yeah, first name would be like Chong Wei marrying Chong Wei..

Anyway, I think it isn't an issue, the only thing you want to check out is if you guys are related. So looking into ancestries and stuff like that may be important especially to appease the older folks. Like if you're from different districts in China it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm 36 btw.
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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM)
i know someone name TAN married to TAN. no problem.

i heard he dun give a fark
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first night surely he needs to giv one brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM)
It's not first name. That's your last name. Or surname.

They just don't want inbreeding. Same surnames of the past generally meant that you're related in some ways. Thus it's abhorred upon. That's all.
Others include olden days disputes, but those are rare.
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apalah TS engrand fail.

LEE Chong Wei marries LEE Mei Mei would be a problem if both are also from the same dialect & same hometown.


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post Jul 31 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(berzerk @ Jul 31 2014, 09:43 AM)
apalah TS engrand fail.

LEE Chong Wei marries LEE Mei Mei would be a problem if both are also from the same dialect & same hometown.
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Lol. Yeah. It has been confusing. As you know, chinese's name start with family name thus, first name seems to be the family name.
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM)
i know someone name TAN married to TAN. no problem.

i heard he dun give a fark
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But you know, family might object the marriage though, may be from the elderly.
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QUOTE(KYspeaks @ Jul 31 2014, 09:42 AM)
Yeah, first name would be like Chong Wei marrying Chong Wei..

Anyway, I think it isn't an issue, the only thing you want to check out is if you guys are related. So looking into ancestries and stuff like that may be important especially to appease the older folks. Like if you're from different districts in China it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm 36 btw.
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Great response. But I think until the marriage stage to check on the ancestories, are too late already though. And it will be weird to check during dating period. lol
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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:49 AM)
But you know, family might object the marriage though, may be from the elderly.
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And again, it's inbred issues. Who knows where your grandpa might be bonking when he's in the plantation?
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QUOTE(berzerk @ Jul 31 2014, 09:37 AM)
Whats the problem with TAN Ah Lee marries CHONG Mei Lee?
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TAN and CHONG is last name

unless your e.g. is Lee tan ah marries Lee chong mei laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:53 AM

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Are we still on 1900?
check DNA la
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:54 AM

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prevention is better than cure, that's what the elderly believes.
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post Jul 31 2014, 09:55 AM

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They dont want their offspring to marry with the enemy tongue.gif


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post Jul 31 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(simpul @ Jul 31 2014, 09:43 AM)
first night surely he needs to giv one  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:49 AM)
But you know, family might object the marriage though, may be from the elderly.
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That one i dunno lol.

i havent married yet. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys, what do you think of same last name marriage?

As long as you and the potential future spouse are not actually related (up to cousin level) then biologically there is no issue. The only issue is socially i.e. are your parents and relatives OK with it.
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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys, what do you think of same last name marriage?

This question is more towards chinese as some believes that it is not good to have same last name marriage (eg. Lee married Lee, Lim married Lim etc.).

Please also state your age and I hope there will be seniors who will also provide some of their thought.
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its not a believe... nor a superstition...

same chinese surnames might mean they are from the same family tree... although distant but there's blood relations... its like wincest sweat.gif

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post Jul 31 2014, 10:05 AM

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The reason behind this has something to do with potential far distance incest, since chances are people with the surname has similar ancestor, but then it only covers half, since surname follows father, there's chance that a Lee marry a Lin ended up having closer blood relationship.

To be safe have to check the family tree chart.

Something to do with DNA matching for offsprings. But if both of you have leet DNA, i guess even if you are siblings the offspring should still be l33t.
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QUOTE(GOO @ Jul 31 2014, 09:30 AM)
Hi guys, what do you think of same last name marriage?

This question is more towards chinese as some believes that it is not good to have same last name marriage (eg. Lee married Lee, Lim married Lim etc.).

Please also state your age and I hope there will be seniors who will also provide some of their thought.
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In my opinion, not recommended if too close like father's sibling's children. I've heard people saying the kid will have a higher chance to sustain some difficulties from birth.

Well if it is loose one... just go for it?
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If you wanna think bout it, you might actually get worried over a lot more things. Tan for example, can be easily related to Chan or Chen as all three names can be one same Chinese word, as how Lee can be related to Lei etc.

With all the scanning and testing plus the years of cross-breeding, I think you shouldn't worry too much though.
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post Jul 31 2014, 10:14 AM

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who cares?

most of us are like 3rd or 4th generation in Malaysia

similar surname no longer matters

chances of wincest is very very little
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post Jul 31 2014, 10:15 AM

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Interracial marriage ftw...
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post Jul 31 2014, 10:15 AM

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most pipul will put an english in front of surname..

so how
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post Jul 31 2014, 10:16 AM

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only problem in Korea where they got like 10 surnames.
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It was useful once upon a time where we live in small clusters of society where inbreeding was a high possibility, thus the easy rule of thumb is to not marry someone with the same surname.

This is no longer relevant.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 31 2014, 10:16 AM)
It was useful once upon a time where we live in small clusters of society where inbreeding was a high possibility, thus the easy rule of thumb is to not marry someone with the same surname.

This is no longer relevant.
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You are right....but eventhough its true, our grandparents are still attached to the culture. Kindda disrespect them if we insist marrying with similar surname.
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QUOTE(abcde90 @ Jul 31 2014, 10:15 AM)
most pipul will put an english in front of surname..

so how
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Correct also. lol.
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QUOTE(Xander-G @ Jul 31 2014, 10:18 AM)
You are right....but eventhough its true, our grandparents are still attached to the culture. Kindda disrespect them if we insist marrying with similar surname.
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Explain that we all probably descended from the same ancestors anyway. tongue.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(simpul @ Jul 31 2014, 09:43 AM)
first night surely he needs to giv one  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(Xander-G @ Jul 31 2014, 10:18 AM)
You are right....but eventhough its true, our grandparents are still attached to the culture. Kindda disrespect them if we insist marrying with similar surname.
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Yeah, think is also one of the reason I am asking for opinion on this. I believe newer generator will have less problem dealing with this. But older generation, I am not so sure. Thus, hoping to have some seniors to provide their opinions also.
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its ok. im a living proof. have a very healthy kid also.
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QUOTE(simpul @ Jul 31 2014, 09:34 AM)
thing thing thing thing thing thing........ or is it THINK?
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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM)
dude, you can't differentiate between first name and last name?
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TS you wat school want?
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QUOTE(matty @ Jul 31 2014, 10:48 AM)
its ok. im a living proof. have a very healthy kid also.
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ur parents didn't say anything?
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Jul 31 2014, 10:53 AM)
ur parents didn't say anything?
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your wife same dialect?
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I heard If same name marriage then will come out the kid not that smart. COs due to genetics. Is like the same rrason u cannot marry your own cousin or sis
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 31 2014, 10:45 AM)
Explain that we all probably descended from the same ancestors anyway.  tongue.gif
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IMO if common surname like Wong, Lee n Lim den shud be fine la.

but if uncommon ones like Auyong den better not lo
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nothing wrong with that. your parents taboo about this?
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me n gf is same surname

her parents say no go.. but i insist so they say start look at ancestry.

both Lee, both same hakka lol. but until grandparents both not recognised so i think no problem
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I heard from some elders that their kid will have lower IQ, then looking at my primary classmate, he memang a bit low in IQ
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the reason why chinese saying don't allow the same surname to get marry is because 500 years ago both of your ancestors might be in 1 family
in that case, i think scientifically might have some down side on your future babies (not a doctor, cannot give much comment on this)

so the first thing a same surname couple will see is their dialect, if hokkien + hakka (as in different) usually will be no problem.
although both of you are "Lee" but there're still chance that different dialect but ended up sounds like "Lee" when you register birth cert (you know last time how malaysian register birth cert la...)

if both has confirmed is the same dialect, then try to ask your grandparents where you originated from (as in china). older ppl in your family will usually know cuz when they pass away that origin place is gonna be written on their grave(or you can visit their grave during certain festival to double confirm).

for example if both Hokkien but come from different places in china (eg: FuZhou hokkien + AnXi hokkien) then most likely both of your ancestors are NOT from the same family although having same surname + dialect. in this case, you both has no problem on getting marry and some healthy babies

hope this help
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post Jul 31 2014, 03:08 PM

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just do a genetic screening for gene related diseases

all the speculation about same family how many generation before is not conclusive, even if same family, the family may not have any diseases that passes down.


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QUOTE(christ14 @ Jul 31 2014, 01:40 PM)
me n gf is same surname

her parents say no go.. but i insist so they say start look at ancestry.

both Lee, both same hakka lol. but until grandparents both not recognised so i think no problem
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Yeah, actually I am more concern about how families take this kind of matter into their hand. I suppose newer generation will have no problem taking in this kind of matter in, but for older generation, I am not so sure.
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as long not your relative near near ok liao
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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Jul 31 2014, 09:40 AM)
i know someone name TAN married to TAN. no problem.

i heard he dun give a fark
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Quite sure farking was involved.
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Now ppl dun care edi.
Best celebrity couple example - Moses Chan and Aimee Chan
Married and even have bb already.

Sometime, the surname maybe different, but "behind" u never know maybe that person also related to you.
If really so worry, best is to check DNA for any relation possibility or not.
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can marry, but do a blood test b4 planing baby
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QUOTE(differ @ Jul 31 2014, 06:17 PM)
Quite sure farking was involved.
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already got kids. haha laugh.gif
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If you are separated by a few generations them there's no problem. Example if you marry your grandfather's brother's granddaughter.

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