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 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V8, DDD finally won. Page 42 onwards.

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SUSjolokia
post Aug 10 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 10 2014, 10:37 AM)
Contradiction. Last time when uuu mentioned keep units vacant ddd curse those who keeping vacant units to die of installments.

Now u Pulak say so n accused me looking down on somebody???
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Some can tahan some cannot, some half tong water wanna pretend strong holding power.

Already said many time mah ! those can hold r non of our business like those can hold share even PN4, we target the weak one.

I ask u don't look down on Iceman, later u report to him call him boss..lol

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post Aug 10 2014, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 10 2014, 11:47 AM)
Some can tahan some cannot, some half tong water wanna pretend strong holding power.

Already said many time mah ! those can hold r non of our business like those can hold share even PN4, we target the weak one.

I ask u don't look down on Iceman, later u report to him call him boss..lol
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post Aug 10 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Dern @ Aug 10 2014, 11:43 AM)
the point of is, people are not buying. do you understand what you are talking or not ??????
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If pipu stop buying, then its good for all the bear bear.Finally, all the bear bear dreams come true. Whn developer keep launching, supply will be more than demand. Price going down or worst scenario, crashing down. Thn everyone can own a home. Happy ending for all bear bear.Ah jib no need build any prima or affordable home. Problem solved by itself.
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QUOTE(CK15 @ Aug 10 2014, 10:58 AM)
Boss.... maybe it can rephrase as...
".... becos got TOO MUCH $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and DON'T KNOW WHAT to do."
Sui bo?
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No jokes ! really know 1 semi retire fellow, just buy coz donno what to do with his money, luckily he target Penang & Sg Petani property only, not KV...lol
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 10 2014, 11:56 AM)
No jokes ! really know 1 semi retire fellow, just buy coz donno what to do with his money, luckily he target Penang & Sg Petani property only, not KV...lol
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Why u Nvr go curse him for buying or pushing up price due to buying ar???

Why curse others but not ur fren har???

So double standard is acceptable like ex leader did??? Say no buy but hoot gao market non stop hor.

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post Aug 10 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Aug 10 2014, 11:09 AM)
U kno in history who are those biggest suiyi or always bought at the highest peak? Ppl who thinks they timed the market well...... Chances u r going to be one of them.....
Market sentiments now may not be good or negative, so u wait as think market will be going down...
However when market didn't go down much and market sentiment starts to turns good, which will also definitely change your view on market (don't tell me u won't since your decision depends so highly on market sentiment)..... Therefore u will be purchasing at the highest peak by then....... LOL
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All bull run will end with a crash, this property bull run is no exception. Only herd members chasing after rising price, hence price bull run.If not buying for ownstay I.e for investment, it won't be too late to buy after it crashed .

QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Aug 10 2014, 11:11 AM)
Typical nerd......
U don't need a day job, where do u find capital to invest?  Money drop sky? doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
Investing in prop gives u monthly return immediately without start up capital and u don't need money to roll?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Isn't flipping with low entry cost, dibs and quick 200k profit upon vp or price double in 3 years, money drop from sky?

QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 10 2014, 11:33 AM)
All the bear bear blaming speculator for high property price. Speculation do play major part in the hike of property price beside development costs which is also getting higher and higher. But  it also come back to basic theory of supply and demand. If a developer putting profit margin of 30% and buyers still buying, anything wrong with that? Or if you think their profit margin is 100% and you still buy without a gun been pointed to your head, do you still complaining you bought an over priced property? You are blaming developer or buyer for this transaction? It all about invidual affordability and supply/demand in market. If no demand, you sell cheap cheap also nobody want.
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Property overhang is a certainty but price take years to drop.

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post Aug 10 2014, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 10 2014, 11:46 AM)
Aiyo no other strategies apart Fr repeating tat old trick meh. Sien hor Sunday afternoon.
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but the old trick is you initiate one mah....now only u know meh ur way is very sien one ?
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 10 2014, 11:33 AM)
All the bear bear blaming speculator for high property price. Speculation do play major part in the hike of property price beside development costs which is also getting higher and higher. But  it also come back to basic theory of supply and demand. If a developer putting profit margin of 30% and buyers still buying, anything wrong with that? Or if you think their profit margin is 100% and you still buy without a gun been pointed to your head, do you still complaining you bought an over priced property? You are blaming developer or buyer for this transaction? It all about invidual affordability and supply/demand in market. If no demand, you sell cheap cheap also nobody want.
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Do I have to do this again? The basic supply theory kind of insulting most forumers here.. that point has been dealt with extensively.. the results these demand are fake demands.. demands to invest vs demand to own a house are 2 different tings..

do we look that shallow minded to have miss such a points? Or do you think your fellow BBB could have miss it?

Think again.. if you want night time we shall l laid it outfor you.. key word demand not supported with affordability is not a demand.. they are mere wish to have property
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 10 2014, 12:01 PM)
Why u Nvr go curse him for buying or pushing up price due to buying ar???

Why curse others but not ur fren har???

So double standard is acceptable like ex leader did??? Say no buy but hoot gao market non stop hor.

V learn sthg new every other day. thumbup.gif
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Since when i cursed anyone ??

I come here have fun only mah ! see them day & night say UUU, i mah says DDD & see them jumping up & down loh !

Old folks like us don't be so small air Kua Beh Kui, later Heart Attack very fast...lol




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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 12:28 PM)

Isn't flipping with low entry cost, dibs and quick 200k profit  upon vp or price double in 3 years, money drop from sky?

Property overhang is a certainty but price take years to drop.
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If u r the 1 to profit it. Will u complaining? Do u think making rm200k is so hard?

If the property take yrs to drop... can u wait or not?
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Aug 10 2014, 02:01 PM)
Do I have to do this again?  The basic supply theory kind of insulting most forumers here.. that point has been dealt with extensively.. the results these demand are fake demands.. demands to invest vs demand to own a house are 2 different tings..

do we look that shallow minded to have miss such a points? Or do you think your fellow BBB could have miss it?

Think again.. if you want night time we shall l laid it outfor you.. key word demand not supported with affordability is not a demand.. they are mere wish to have property
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That is where you still crying for affordable house. Who cares if it demand to invest or demand to own a house. Its hard for all the bear bear to accept the fact property price not coming down after wait and wait. Grow up and learn to accept the fact. It wont make your mind shallower. Next time you will be wiser whn come to decision making in investing.

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Aug 10 2014, 02:08 PM)
If u r the 1 to profit it. Will u complaining? Do u think making rm200k is so hard?

If the property take yrs to drop... can u wait or not?
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If making rm200k is not so hard, why less than10% of people networth is over us$100k .

Don't expect interesting price until 2016/17 and is not long to go.


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 02:47 PM)
If making rm200k is not so hard, why less than10% of people networth is over us$100k .

Don't expect interesting price until 2016/17 and is not long to go.
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B the one in tat category lo. It's not diff at all.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 9 2014, 04:12 PM)
Up. Stil up. But not for high rise
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Kind of agree with you on this though...
When or IF the bubble burst. ... buyers could be afraid to by high rise liao... causing suppressed pricing for a long period.
Landed on the other hand may dip a bit and high OR maintain back to current value.

Oversupply is on the condos and apartments (hi rise)
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 10 2014, 02:16 PM)
That is where you still crying for affordable house. Who cares if it demand to invest or demand to own a house. Its hard for all the bear bear to accept the fact property price not coming down after wait and wait. Grow up and learn to accept the fact. It wont make your mind shallower. Next time you will be wiser whn come to decision making in investing.
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oh izzit.. who cares .. yea right man, you have just totally destroy the "supply and demand theory". now the point is whether you investors has what it takes to withstand the wave.. since this is a fake supply and demand theory.. therefore, there is no supply and demand theory, that explains why many units of high rise and landed are vacant and same time many yellow banners asking for sale .. "yeah right strong holding power, cash rich investors" , the demands has not been made..

since when i join this threads the waiting time is less than a year... nothing earth shattering about... property price no one is denying it is not going up, just the factor on the profit margin expected by flippers that is the the ting causing problem, not those cement price, GST, those factors are negligible and within expectation.. only when after 2010 flippers venture in 100% or 150% increment in expected profit margin i,e turned greedy after ill gotten advise by property agents/bankers work with fake valuations/developers.

the gov movements are clearly to curtail the low end flippers which bank negara knows that there are lot in the market now.. had not these numbers are in critical state, bank negara wont bother implementing such coz all investors are strong holding powers/cash rich.. if you claim a few bunch of dudes are small numbers of flippers, then you are wrong..
for example, DIBS has been banned by gov, now the developers are bringing it back by some rebates and etc.. if the investors are cash rich and strong holding power, no need for all these drama, just ask 10% full DP or even 20% full DP..


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QUOTE(CK15 @ Aug 10 2014, 02:08 PM)
If u r the 1 to profit it. Will u complaining? Do u think making rm200k is so hard?

If the property take yrs to drop... can u wait or not?
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then i suggest since everyyear prices goes up, make the profit margin to another 50k or 100k like 300k profit margin.. see got ppl buy or not..

of course we know Investors /flippers do not care about affordability, what is the popint of investing then? unless you are cash rich /strong holding power, no one will will care to wait and hold..

conversely, even those strong holding/cash rich are not dumb, these kind trouble waters, they will stay out.. by the time you finihs the loan repayments, the final price you selling is not going to deviate so much from the total loan you serviced..

rental games, please go ahead with depressing rentals..
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Aug 10 2014, 03:30 PM)
oh izzit.. who cares .. yea right man, you have just totally destroy the "supply and demand theory". now the point is whether you investors has what it takes to withstand the wave..  since this is a fake supply and demand theory.. therefore, there is no supply and demand theory, that explains why many units of high rise and landed are vacant and same time many yellow banners asking for sale .. "yeah right strong holding power, cash rich investors" , the demands has not been made..

since when i join this threads the waiting time is less than a year... nothing earth shattering about... property price no one is denying it is not going up, just the factor on the profit margin expected by flippers that is the the ting causing problem, not those cement price, GST, those factors are negligible and within expectation.. only when after 2010 flippers venture in 100% or 150% increment in expected profit margin i,e turned greedy after ill gotten advise by property agents/bankers work with fake valuations/developers.

the gov movements are clearly to curtail the low end flippers which bank negara knows that there are lot in the market now.. had not these numbers are in critical state, bank negara wont bother implementing such coz all investors are strong holding powers/cash rich.. if you claim a few bunch of dudes are small numbers of flippers, then you are wrong..
for example, DIBS has been banned by gov, now the developers are bringing it back by some rebates and etc.. if the investors are cash rich and strong holding power, no need for all these drama, just ask 10% full DP or even 20% full DP..
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Ic ic. You against ppl investing in property. So ladies and gentlemen, stop buying. Dont own more than one unit for your own use. Kepala hotak u la. Or u actually mean speculator? Not investor.
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Aug 10 2014, 04:04 PM)
Ic ic. You against ppl investing in property. So ladies and gentlemen, stop buying. Dont own more than one unit for your own use. Kepala hotak u la. Or u actually mean speculator? Not investor.
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the wordings are clear.. speculators/flippers.. those long term investors also watch out.. the developers price are as good as flippers price already ..

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