Feb 1 2017, 12:27 AM
QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jan 30 2017, 06:07 PM)
You mean black?
Two important things to take note of for yr 2015 stock:
1) Rear wiper most likely has hardened. If you want a replacement for free, request for it before taking your car. It costs RM20.
2) Tyres are gonna be Achilles 2233. Get your sales adviser to have them replaced to Continental ContiSportContact 3 tyres prior to accepting of the car if possible, otherwise you may have to wait for a while for replacement tyres.
Besides the above, just check the car thoroughly like you would with any new car. An old stock Suprima S is most likely going to be parked under the sun, so just check things like the paint, headlights, rubber seals etc and make sure they're still in a good condition.
If you are not very experienced with maintaining vehicles, bear in mind that this car will need more care than other cars priced similarly due to the turbo. Avoid using cheap engine oil, and service regularly to reduce the risk of having turbo failure. You also will have to deal with the Oil Cooler Hose (OCH) eventually, which until Proton replaces with something more durable, has the possibility of bursting after some time of usage (usually after 30k KM).
Also, if you have not tested the car, be sure to test it thoroughly, otherwise you may regret in the future if you find that you can't live with the CVT's characteristics of being slightly jerky when crawling in traffic, and taking a bit of time to engage fully when moving after being stationary.
Good points of the vehicle:
1) Good power delivery. Turbo + CVT is really a nice combination, and it'd be really nice if the CVT is better at low speeds.
2) Good handling (as expected for Proton). You can take corners really confidently with this car. It's even better once Proton replaces the Achilles tyres with the CSC 3s.
Mediocre:
1)NVH; Road noise is loud. Definitely recommend doing floor and door soundproofing if possible, but it's not high priority since it's still decent. Most people will claim that the engine noise is pretty loud as well, but it only becomes loud once you're revving over 4k RPM. For normal driving you'll most likely be revving up to 2K RPM only. 2.5k RPM is enough to make you start moving quickly, and at this rev level it's far from being noisy.
Bad points:
1) CVT (subjective. Some may be able to live with it, some may not). Not everyone will be able to adapt to it.
2) Remote boot release will be annoying as you will most likely need to perform the boot release action twice. The "Fix" Proton has is basically moving the boot striker further out, which causes the boot to not be held as tightly to the car, but this makes the boot gap bigger.
3) Engine/CVT mounts are not so good. You can get them replaced under warranty if the vibration becomes excessive, and may have to replace them a few times as the car ages. This may improve in the future though as Proton does improvements to the mounts, but there's no guarantee.
4) Fuel consumption is usually around 10L/100KM.
5) Resale value. I would personally get a used Suprima S, but most used car dealers cannot be trusted as they usually tamper with the mileage.
Recommended:
1) Install a non-recirculating Oil Catch Tank so you don't have to deal with oil build-up in the turbo, intercooler and throttle body.
2) Get a HID H7 conversion kit for the car (be sure to take something branded like Osram Xenarc/Philips though). This improves the light output massively. I recently switched back to my old high performance Philips Xtreme Vision +130 halogen bulb for my LHS headlamp because it was going to be replaced under warranty, and the difference is really huge, especially in the rain (halogen bulb light output barely showing up on the road). 4200K HIDs have a white look to them, but the light output will still have some slight yellowness in them when viewed from inside the car.
Edit: This means you don't have to deal with headlights dimming when the compressor engages, and short headlight bulbs lifespan too (prevalent in like absolutely all Preve and Suprima)
I chose this car because my priority goes to a vehicle's driving ability, plus I know and can accept what I may have to deal with as the car becomes old. I don't think you'll be able to find a new car below MYR 100K that doesn't need to sacrifice on anything (basically can offer good power, handling, and NVH at the same time). With this car you'll only need to focus on improving driving comfort with e.g. better tints, better tyres, better sound deadening versus having to deal with both NVH and handling, and maybe power if the car's too slow for your liking. You do need some luck however with Proton's quality...
Thank you for the advises sifu Two important things to take note of for yr 2015 stock:
1) Rear wiper most likely has hardened. If you want a replacement for free, request for it before taking your car. It costs RM20.
2) Tyres are gonna be Achilles 2233. Get your sales adviser to have them replaced to Continental ContiSportContact 3 tyres prior to accepting of the car if possible, otherwise you may have to wait for a while for replacement tyres.
Besides the above, just check the car thoroughly like you would with any new car. An old stock Suprima S is most likely going to be parked under the sun, so just check things like the paint, headlights, rubber seals etc and make sure they're still in a good condition.
If you are not very experienced with maintaining vehicles, bear in mind that this car will need more care than other cars priced similarly due to the turbo. Avoid using cheap engine oil, and service regularly to reduce the risk of having turbo failure. You also will have to deal with the Oil Cooler Hose (OCH) eventually, which until Proton replaces with something more durable, has the possibility of bursting after some time of usage (usually after 30k KM).
Also, if you have not tested the car, be sure to test it thoroughly, otherwise you may regret in the future if you find that you can't live with the CVT's characteristics of being slightly jerky when crawling in traffic, and taking a bit of time to engage fully when moving after being stationary.
Good points of the vehicle:
1) Good power delivery. Turbo + CVT is really a nice combination, and it'd be really nice if the CVT is better at low speeds.
2) Good handling (as expected for Proton). You can take corners really confidently with this car. It's even better once Proton replaces the Achilles tyres with the CSC 3s.
Mediocre:
1)NVH; Road noise is loud. Definitely recommend doing floor and door soundproofing if possible, but it's not high priority since it's still decent. Most people will claim that the engine noise is pretty loud as well, but it only becomes loud once you're revving over 4k RPM. For normal driving you'll most likely be revving up to 2K RPM only. 2.5k RPM is enough to make you start moving quickly, and at this rev level it's far from being noisy.
Bad points:
1) CVT (subjective. Some may be able to live with it, some may not). Not everyone will be able to adapt to it.
2) Remote boot release will be annoying as you will most likely need to perform the boot release action twice. The "Fix" Proton has is basically moving the boot striker further out, which causes the boot to not be held as tightly to the car, but this makes the boot gap bigger.
3) Engine/CVT mounts are not so good. You can get them replaced under warranty if the vibration becomes excessive, and may have to replace them a few times as the car ages. This may improve in the future though as Proton does improvements to the mounts, but there's no guarantee.
4) Fuel consumption is usually around 10L/100KM.
5) Resale value. I would personally get a used Suprima S, but most used car dealers cannot be trusted as they usually tamper with the mileage.
Recommended:
1) Install a non-recirculating Oil Catch Tank so you don't have to deal with oil build-up in the turbo, intercooler and throttle body.
2) Get a HID H7 conversion kit for the car (be sure to take something branded like Osram Xenarc/Philips though). This improves the light output massively. I recently switched back to my old high performance Philips Xtreme Vision +130 halogen bulb for my LHS headlamp because it was going to be replaced under warranty, and the difference is really huge, especially in the rain (halogen bulb light output barely showing up on the road). 4200K HIDs have a white look to them, but the light output will still have some slight yellowness in them when viewed from inside the car.
Edit: This means you don't have to deal with headlights dimming when the compressor engages, and short headlight bulbs lifespan too (prevalent in like absolutely all Preve and Suprima)
I chose this car because my priority goes to a vehicle's driving ability, plus I know and can accept what I may have to deal with as the car becomes old. I don't think you'll be able to find a new car below MYR 100K that doesn't need to sacrifice on anything (basically can offer good power, handling, and NVH at the same time). With this car you'll only need to focus on improving driving comfort with e.g. better tints, better tyres, better sound deadening versus having to deal with both NVH and handling, and maybe power if the car's too slow for your liking. You do need some luck however with Proton's quality...
, i meant silver car* really appreciated it. any other things i do need to take note ? 
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The gearbox might not be so happy to handle more power than it's already given if you plan to increase engine power (besides MBO done by EA Auto whose mod puts the power output right at the maximum the gearbox can supposedly handle), and that your relatives friends girlfriend papa mama probably don't want to go out with you anymore.
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