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 Canon EOS Family, DSLR, EOS - V58, The White Paladins' Territory!

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post Dec 3 2014, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 3 2014, 12:53 PM)
Something to share about Canon Shop in Midvalley as well.

A friend of mine went there last week to test out 50mm F1.4.

The lens was original in the DISPLAY showcase (all the lenses there meant for DISPLAY) - he asked to take out as he wanted to test

Upon the staff handover the lens to him (before mount to those DEMO bodies), he just did a LIGHT shaking the lens to see the construction (to see any loose part or poor build or not), press the AF button to MF and play around with the focus ring....

Guess what, immediately the staff day told my friend..".hello SIR, by doing this we can NO LONGER sell off this lens since your shaking will cause AF mis-allignment  shocking.gif , after this we to TABAO this lens sent back to Canon Malaysia (to return back to Canon)  shocking.gif ...after than he somemore repeated the same thing to another staff (gang of him - only 2 fella there) by saying...."hey....DO U Have any friend wanted this lens since now the lens CANNOT BE sell anymore.....let sell cheap cheap like RM500-600) to your friend or later our shop just 'absorb' the lens cost.....

My friend was like WTF... shakehead.gif  why they are SO RUDE and So ABSURD !....To me is that...COME ON ! Canon lens CANNOT hand cannot handle handshaking ???  This lens (50mm F1.4) somemore NO Image Stabilizer...and he dare to said such a stupxx thing ??? Holy....no wonder alot of ppl commented nowadays CANON service is getting bad to worse......

Sigh....
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ Dec 3 2014, 01:15 PM)
So their rudeness is leading to push and sell a 50mm F1.4 for RM 500-600?  That's cheaper than 2nd hand.  Use their rudeness and stupidity against them.  For a good condition Canon 50mm F1.4 for RM 500 is a crazy bargain.  I'd buy it even if I didn't want it.  Can resell straight to another shop for profit. 

Next time I go there and shake the 5d mark 3.  And hope they say "wah cannot sell anymore you must buy for RM 3000!"
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LOLed hard when reading this.

let's try the plan brows.gif
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post Dec 3 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Dec 3 2014, 02:29 PM)
7D2 is attractive as it's a full frame. But have to sale off current lens. And my SD card all canot use oledi.

I'm thinking of upgrade but just not sure how far should I go. The price differences is not so huge also. Got to think about it carefully.
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quite sure the 7D2 is A LOT more expensive than the 70D (around 2x the price as goldfries stated), and has some features that most people wont even need anyways so the 70D would be a more logical choice unless you needed those powerful features.

QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 3 2014, 04:50 PM)
my friend did challenging them back but their smiley doggy face just refuse to sell @ 500-600. Obviously they 'played' my friend la....
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haha did he submit any complaints or so afterwards?
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post Dec 9 2014, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(lightning @ Dec 9 2014, 05:02 PM)
If don't mind, a good second hand 7D still a great camera...
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it's still a very capable day light camera, the high ISO isn't that good though as there's a lot of color noise IMO.

But nowadays the price of 70D is so cheap making the 7D looks less worthy because of the age.
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post Dec 9 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(lightning @ Dec 9 2014, 09:01 PM)
70d n 7d n 7d2, sensor not much different on the color noise.7D more towards robust usage n faster still image at cheaper price compare with 7d2. 70d more advantages on video. even 7d is consider old camera but still capable camera compare with 70d on still image.
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i can't confirm about this but base on my personal experience, the 7D's iso800 images are quite noisy already, still usable but lacking when compared to newer cameras.

any user of 7D/70D can provide a higher iso images to compare with? I don't really think the 70D's sensor has the same performance as the 7D only.
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post Dec 10 2014, 06:21 PM

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http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=16011

Review of the 24-105mm STM. It's kinda hard to see why anyone would choose this lens over the 24-105mm L which is really cheap right now (1.5k-2k), since the performance is worse and no weather sealing + plastic build.
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post Dec 11 2014, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(cIvIc_noob @ Dec 10 2014, 09:49 PM)
Where bro, i maybe interested to pickup an L since it is EF mount, can use on my film canon too.

http://www.mylensdb.com/gear/canon-ef-24-1...4l-is-usm/price
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don't compare it with the lens only price, since you can get really cheap unit from those separated kits (like 6D kit or 5d3 kit).

http://www.mudah.my/New+canon+ef+24+105mm+...ns-30505633.htm

QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 10 2014, 11:51 PM)
台幣15,600元 <=-- that's A LOT cheaper than EF 24-105 F4L IS USM you know. biggrin.gif
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after converted into RM it's around 1.7k?

The thing is the 24-105 STM isn't a kit lens (well maybe in the future but for now it's still not, correct me if i am wrong), so the individual selling price will not be very low. While there's a lot of 24-105L that's either NEW or used for few months/weeks that people don't like from their FF kit, which most of them are under 2k.
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post Dec 11 2014, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 11 2014, 12:41 AM)
Going by the article, let's assume it's RM 1,800. A 24-105L is still holding SRP RM 3,999.00.

Street price, new around 3.5k.

The thing about those cheap units is that it's about luck, and it's about people sitting there hunting often or chance upon it. Not everyone is that type of user.

Some people may have just inherited an old 5D and want a new lens to use without going through the hassle of hunting, initiate trade, test and all. Not everyone has the luxury of time.

Some people are new, and they lack confidence to COD and such.

The EF 24-105 STM helps with that, even at RM 1,800 it's almost half the price of 24-105L. For a casual user who wants to shoot and not particular about aperture size then it's a very reasonable option.

Never know a child might be interested in photography, so the father passes to him his old 5D and buys the 24-105 STM for learning purpose. biggrin.gif

The general consumer are not the one on forum.
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I understand your point, but when you are spending around 2k for a lens alone, don't care if it's brand new or not, I am expecting people to have at least did a little research about pricing/ specs etc before sealing the deal.

There will still be market for the STM, but it will be very limited I think. At the end of the day, who doesn't want to get the most out of their money?

The link I posted above is a shop so it doesn't make any difference compared to buying the STM, other than you don't get a nicely printed packaging box. And imo, most of the sellers that I saw in GS/ FB or other sites who sell the L are from shops/ traders, not limited to just a random lens owner.
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post Dec 11 2014, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 11 2014, 01:10 AM)
Not everyone's like that. That's why shops at 1-Utama like Shong Lee can survive nicely, and many other camera shops. smile.gif Plenty of people still buy at SRP.

When photography is not their total interest, people will just buy from wherever they can. Those consumers, many don't go to places like YL Pudu. Heck I haven't been to YL Pudu either. tongue.gif

The one you posted also is random, you go that shop I'm sure it's not always having 24-105L at that price. Furthermore it's import set, clearly from an import set body.

Can't compare with PROMO price.
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Hmm true...

For that shop, I went there before , their pricing is really good and items are updated oftenly so I don't think it will be posted if they don't have the items. smile.gif
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post Dec 25 2014, 09:35 PM

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goldfries

Shot this just now, any c&c on it sifu?

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Kari Ikan Goan by tuna97, on Flickr
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post Dec 25 2014, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 25 2014, 09:37 PM)
Looks good, good use of light to bring out the texture of the fish. biggrin.gif I don't think I can do any much better if given this dish.
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Thanks biggrin.gif Glad to hear that from you.

It was a 5 minute setup lit by just a single phone flash mounted on softbox, turns out better than my expectation.
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 25 2014, 11:27 PM)
Nice, i thought it's bounced flash.
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really liking the outcome from light painting, since you can create a really large light source with just a tiny light, same result might only be achieved with complicated lighting setup or with a large reflector. too bad it doesn't work in portrait or moving subjects like watches.
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 26 2014, 12:25 AM)
Needs tripod though, and the problem is consistency.
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Yeah, since the angle is quite fixed. But its fun since the result differ a lot even by a slight change of timing. smile.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 26 2014, 01:33 AM)
that's why i don't post much here, not the type that talks gear. worse person to consult when it comes to gear too. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 26 2014, 09:39 AM)
munak991 you wanna learn light painting ah? biggrin.gif

Actually very simple. Just that you need long exposure and use your torchlight to move around. LED video lights works too, I use flash for light painting as well.

It's not a good way to do photography because it lacks consistency BUT for simple shots, it saves a lot of time and in some cases can make it creative or better too.

The key is to understand exposure and how the lights work.
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QUOTE(onghy @ Dec 26 2014, 10:13 AM)
long exposure have to consider the environment light, but even at daylight, with ND, u also barely can get beyond 1s. (i got a cheapo 10x ND, and tried myself)

set the ISO at low, and aperture at smaller value, you can prolong the shutter speed, of course tripod is a must.
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I think that there are still some situations where light painting is easier/better to achieve desired result compared to strobes. for example shooting large subject that requires equal spread of lighting like cars. i follow a lot of famous automotive photographers on facebook and most of them shoot with light painting in the night instead of strobes and the results are great biggrin.gif

QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 26 2014, 09:56 AM)
OOo, i wanna learn that too.. cause i saw a lot of people have long exposure.
Like taking train, highway.
Some i very suprise how they take it in a well lit area, maybe ND filter?

Hmmmm light painting to understand lighting, thx goldfries

My first trial on 6D in christmas dinner, without flash
Very noob editing skill =S, need to have more understanding of tinting and greenish adjustment =S
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the setup is pretty simple as goldfries said, just require a continuous lighting and perhaps a softbox for softer lighting. it's best to shoot in a pitch black environment to avoid ambient lighting from getting in smile.gif

the WB still looks off to me, try to use the little pipette tool in LR and click it on the plate to see if you get the correct WB, works nicely most of the time.




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post Dec 26 2014, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 26 2014, 02:10 PM)
this is correct. in some ways you do get more control.

I use it for my casing photography too. There was once my flash ran out of battery so I'm down with only 1 flash.

what did I do? I use flash for light painting. biggrin.gif
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So you mean multiple bursts of flash in a long exposure?

Another shot from today smile.gif

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Lamb Chop by tuna97, on Flickr

A little before and after of PP.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7476/1548659...0e251fe49_o.jpg
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post Dec 27 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Dec 27 2014, 10:01 AM)
food light painting? this is from my italian sifu Renato Marcialis tongue.gif

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awesome! gonna try that someday biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Dec 28 2014, 01:24 AM)
90% off topic here.

Well, I'm jumping ship to Sony. Considering cheapo A7 and lightweight goodness. The lens selection is shit, the LCD is shit, the EVF kinda shitty but after shooting weddings with it I found that its actually not as bad as I thought without having the ability to AF with my lenses.

I don't plan to open a sales thread in LYN so just gonna share here to see if anyone interested for cheap grabs and maybe as a 2nd body.

You can either PM me or WhatsApp or text me at 0166727873.

My 5D Mark III, Sigma 35 1.4 Art and Canon 85 1.8 up for grabs smile.gif

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Cheers rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 28 2014, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 28 2014, 07:08 PM)
Thx hahahahah, lesson learnt, just eat dont take if no flash.

I find 6D AWB is very weird, taking the same scene will have different Colour lol
the grey card trick is awesome =).

Gonna get my self a small size grey card
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if the lighting is very bad then dont bother taking any pictures better, affect the mood of enjoying the food only tongue.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 29 2014, 11:27 AM)
Ahhhh,
Yes my camera is on AWB, but then i switches to Kelvin and set it to 2k+ i dont recall
Hmmm set it to P, okay.

Didnt know LCD from camera helps light up the scene aha! ( learn something)

i read some blog book, they said bring a small Torch light, instead of blasting flash in the restaurant.
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I wonder how could you always think too much and stir up everything laugh.gif
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 29 2014, 01:33 PM)
play by aperture and ISO?
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sure lo laugh.gif

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