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TSjuniortok
post Jul 16 2014, 01:22 PM, updated 11y ago

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Hi guys,

I am new to this forum and I am glad that we have this Phd section in this forum. I have been accepted to a DBA program by a well known British university and will start my course this year. I am living in HK now and thinking about moving back to KL (too long in HK, sian already).

Do you guys think that a DBA graduate can get a good job in Malaysia assuming that you have the right experience? or its a market where people dont care about your knowledge?

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TSjuniortok
post Jul 16 2014, 01:25 PM

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BTW, the DBA is in real estate finance
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post Aug 21 2014, 10:51 PM

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What is real estate finance.? Housing loans.?
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QUOTE(Wilsongoh @ Aug 21 2014, 10:51 PM)
What is real estate finance.? Housing loans.?
It's about making investment and finance decisions regarding commercial and housing real estate assets (immovable properties). icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(juniortok @ Jul 16 2014, 01:25 PM)
BTW, the DBA is in real estate finance
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Good area of study
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post Oct 25 2014, 04:57 PM

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Guys, I started the course. Amazing experience. Will tell you if it is worth it after the first year! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 25 2014, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(juniortok @ Oct 25 2014, 04:57 PM)
Guys, I started the course.  Amazing experience.  Will tell you if it is worth it after the first year!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Do you have any consultancy component in your syllabus?
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(juniortok @ Jul 16 2014, 01:22 PM)
Hi guys,

I am new to this forum and I am glad that we have this Phd section in this forum.  I have been accepted to a DBA program by a well known British university and will start my course this year.  I am living in HK now and thinking about moving back to KL (too long in HK, sian already). 

Do you guys think that a DBA graduate can get a good job in Malaysia assuming that you have the right experience? or its a market where people dont care about your knowledge?

Cheers
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mind sharing which University is this? how are u doing the DBA, in MY or UK.
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 25 2014, 08:34 PM)
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Do you have any consultancy component in your syllabus?
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There isn't. According to the DBA accreditations, DBA is actually within the framework of PHD (i.e. it is actually under the academic route, just all all PHD). So, consultancy is not necessary. We just need to finish a big thesis, or alternatively, write 3 journal articles i.e. 3 smaller ones are equilavent to a big one
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 31 2014, 10:15 AM)
mind sharing which University is this? how are u doing the DBA, in MY or UK.
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University of Manchester. Need to go Manchester (but I am Liverpool fan....) 3 times a year. For the first 2 years:

Feb - Need to attend 6 full days (9-5 pm) of lectures
June - Attend conference and workshops (around 4-5 days)
Oct - Need to attend 6 full days (9-5 pm) of lectures

From third year onward, need to go twice a year to work with your supervisor.

So, you need to allocate around 24 days (including travelling days and jet leg recovery days) to attend classes in Manchester.

In addition, there are some coursework to finish which I estimate to take around 10 hours a week (on average) for 52 weeks for the first 2 years. Writing the thesis will depend on you.

So, its a big commitment.

Uni of Manchester used to have the best DBA program and PHD program (both ranked together) in the world, but dropped to third recently. In any event, they are still very reputable. I would not say they are world class, world class. But they are definitely quite good.

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post Oct 31 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 31 2014, 10:15 AM)
mind sharing which University is this? how are u doing the DBA, in MY or UK.
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Ahh...forgot to say the most important one, there are actually a lot of functions to attend when you are attending the classes in Manchester. The school, the faculty, the course director, alumni and your classmates will arrange A LOT of dinners/functions and you are required to attend and mingle. So, if you are not the type who like to talk talk talk, its not easy to blend in. Classmates are amazing, all very serious, and we set up a Linkedin group just to remind each other what need to be done etc etc. So, everyone is helping everyone. (about 30 of us - all 30 to 50 years old)
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QUOTE(juniortok @ Oct 31 2014, 10:56 AM)
University of Manchester.  Need to go Manchester (but I am Liverpool fan....) 3 times a year.  For the first 2 years:

Feb - Need to attend 6 full days (9-5 pm) of lectures
June - Attend conference and workshops (around 4-5 days)
Oct - Need to attend 6 full days (9-5 pm) of lectures

From third year onward, need to go twice a year to work with your supervisor.

So, you need to allocate around 24 days (including travelling days and jet leg recovery days) to attend classes in Manchester.

In addition, there are some coursework to finish which I estimate to take around 10 hours a week (on average) for 52 weeks for the first 2 years.  Writing the thesis will depend on you.

So, its a big commitment.

Uni of Manchester used to have the best DBA program and PHD program (both ranked together) in the world, but dropped to third recently.  In any event, they are still very reputable.  I would not say they are world class, world class.  But they are definitely quite good.
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thanks for your reply - too big commitment for me

but in your case = congrats to you. Am sure that there are employers who will recognize reputable Uni to answer your first question


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post Oct 31 2014, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 31 2014, 11:01 AM)
thanks for your reply - too big commitment for me

but in your case = congrats to you.  Am sure that there are employers who will recognize reputable Uni to answer your first question
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After attending the course, I actually think that Asia employers will not pay for this. So, it is a negative IRR investment if you look at it that way. But there are many other benefits.
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post Oct 31 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(juniortok @ Oct 31 2014, 11:14 AM)
After attending the course, I actually think that Asia employers will not pay for this.  So, it is a negative IRR investment if you look at it that way.  But there are many other benefits.
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Bro, your DBA in Real Estate Finance seems very interesting.

What is your specific area of research or discovery
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post Oct 31 2014, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Oct 31 2014, 11:22 AM)
Bro, your DBA in Real Estate Finance seems very interesting.

What is your specific area of research or discovery
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I am researching into the pricing of apartment in China (or any cities) eg. how much premium should we pay for a property with certain features such as school allocation, MRT availability etc etc (in total, 19 factors)

I am also writing about REIT in HK. Another is why we buy property?

Something like that la, I am not there yet even though the school is helping us to develop these concept into concrete plans
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DBA, great. hope to enrol one day
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QUOTE(juniortok @ Oct 31 2014, 10:48 AM)
There isn't.  According to the DBA accreditations, DBA is actually within the framework of PHD (i.e. it is actually under the academic route, just all all PHD). So, consultancy is not necessary.  We just need to finish a big thesis, or alternatively, write 3 journal articles i.e. 3 smaller ones are equilavent to a big one
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That means although it's called a DBA, but it is 100% research based?

No coursework at all?
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QUOTE(juniortok @ Oct 31 2014, 12:18 PM)
I am researching into the pricing of apartment in China (or any cities) eg. how much premium should we pay for a property with certain features such as school allocation, MRT availability etc etc (in total, 19 factors)

I am also writing about REIT in HK.  Another is why we buy property?

Something like that la, I am not there yet even though the school is helping us to develop these concept into concrete plans
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Well Done, taikor.

SO u will public 3 papers as part of the graduation requirement?
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Oct 31 2014, 10:37 PM)
Well Done, taikor.

SO u will public 3 papers as part of the graduation requirement?
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Yes, it is easier that way lor. If write one thesis, thats 100,000 words....by the time I finish the research method, I might have forgotten the topic
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 31 2014, 07:26 PM)
That means although it's called a DBA, but it is 100% research based?

No coursework at all?
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No, before you work on your thesis, you are supposed to take 10 subjects --- unlike MBA, these are all (or rather 90%) research subjects such as social research method, quantitative, maths equation. You have to PASS all the coursework of this subject, only then you can work on your thesis.

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