Team Insanity is looking for two more member to join team ( 4k solo MMR and above)


Conditions: Has to be below 20 years old
Has to be able to communicate in English properly through skype with a mic
Humble and ready to learn player
Has to accept teachings and voice out opinion if disagree with something

Training time: Weekdays from 5 pm onwards unless not free and weekends whole day if possible

Add this guy if you're interested.
Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198082583235/

why below 20?.

got potential can train together for future tournaments.
if too old then he might stop dota after awhile
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younger people faster reflex

i dont think 21 count as "too old".

anyway its your team, good luck buddy.

age discrimination detected ! anyway, good luck !

add steam , we talk there

dont want to starting something but even world dota champion player are around 20++ something iinm.
so the "younger people faster reflex" points, is not right.

This post has been edited by TheHitman47: Jul 9 2014, 09:33 PM

most of them retired around 25. just admit it, old people cant keep up with younger people


i will stop here, wont post other reply here, dont disturb ts recruit thread

This post has been edited by ~min~: Jul 9 2014, 09:41 PM

that different story than "younger people has faster reflex".
cant keep up?, still not see any 12-13 years old become world champion yet.

sorry ts, i wont bother you anymore.
and again good luck!

Please, most of time it was older players who discriminate against younger people.

Older players are stubborn, you think a 16 year old can control bunch of early to mid 20s players in his team. NO!
I'm talking from experience. I'm 18 now, i have experience bad experience with older players when i was 16.

Thank god we have solo mmr ranking and leaderboards now. Back then i had the entire teammates made of older p;ayers blamed me when things went wrong, even though i'm clearly superior than them. How did i know i was the better player? Whenever i played solo match, every single game have 50++ spectator. I got matched with zsmj, chuan, cty, ig stack , lgd stack and other sea pros when i was 16. Still my own teammates who i thought were my friends treat me like shit.

So i can see where he's coming from. Older people are too arrogant and too stubborn to change.

i'd say its case to case bro.

I understand why you might think this way, but not everything should be taken at face value. I apologize in advance for the wall of text that follows, but I hope you take the time to read through.

The current pool of players come from a very friendly environment. Valve has made a positive reinforcement part and parcel of the DotA 2 atmosphere, allowing players to improve at an accelerated rate. Good players are instantly picked out of matchmaking. In comparison, the old school league/inhouse method to grooming talent was a lot more biased and hostile. You had to avoid pissing off moderators, and you'd be subjected to a world of abuse for screwing up. Players came down hard on others for even the smallest of mistakes. Sounds like hell, so why would anyone put themselves through it when the newer method advocated by Valve is so much less stressful?

The answer lies in the question itself - the older method put a lot of focus on players dealing with stress. One might argue that there's a difference between positive and negative stress, but the tools for dealing with it remain the same. Compare teams that consist of new players with those from the old guard. The newer players definitely have more skill than the older ones (and by older players I don't mean their age, but rather from the old school system), and the response time to match. So what's holding them back? Why are teams with these older players still dominating the pro scene? Simple - the ability to perform under stress. Just look at the current TI standings and you'll see what I mean.

There's no doubt that you're a good player, but your past is forcing you to heavily underestimate the benefits of being experienced. If you really intend to go pro, your focus should be on consolidating the best of both worlds, rather than rejecting one outright. Out with the old, in with the new isn't always the best approach.

I don't know much but you do make a good point.

bump2

Some of the best are the youngest. Arteezy and ddz is just 18.

Look at CIS, beaten DK, Newbee but relatively immature and hot-tempered, lost their wildcard and went to ti4 hving not trained for once in 40 days.

up.. finding 1 more player to join us

25? 27-29 is still considered young. E-Sports does not restrict age, MMY and others were probably over 25-26+++ now and they still play. It's a matter of playing for passion and seriousness.

There's no saying 25, you should quit.

So you called them immature? But that's just your POV. Black^ joined them and did managed to join TI4 at least. Young teams can surprise if they have 5 willing individuals with sponsor alike.



I'll put it here. It shows our "community" standard too. I'll put a rest and ignore most unnecessary things. No deeper flames then.

perli gua la tu..

POV? Have you seen the live video taken right after their defeat to liquid uploaded by IMBATV? If you have seen you would be surprised how immature they are. They are willing yes, but all in the wrong way. They dont communicate to team manager and even the boss when there are issues. They keep it to weibo, to their heart and take it all personal while the boss who financed them everything didnt know they hadn't trained for 40 days until he saw it himself in weibo.

Let me ask you something. What you see is human reaction so as MINE?


rOtK with ViCi Gaming, he flames/psychologically even STRONGER or too FAR than my level. Why people respect his team? Because he flames and the team listens!

Simple. It's like you think I'm showing "elitist" attitude but you don't know my story. I compete in D1/D2/SF4 and many console series before. Top 3s in local although not that good but many OK players were defeated.

To be honest with you, I wouldn't want to tell you this. I'm not afraid of losing in one field because there are pros in fields I love in all. I respect the higher ups but not those with real bad attitudes or mama boys who can't earn their own pocket money.

If you think that way, I'm not trying to show "elitist" but more to helping the community see that I'm a strict , passionate , serious E-Sports runner. Oh and with flaws of course seen everywhere. I just bash those who does not listen properly to how to improve Malaysia instead of saying I hate "Arrow".

Oh plz... I know their player's track record in my finger. They can not even outrule Dota 2. Oh and I have many backups of title instead of that game. So the point is, I wanted all sectors to have more matured , better players than me perhaps as I'm more to (community analyst , runner) since 5-6 years ago.

I managed 3 years in flying spaghetti monster banning many "r-tards" in Malaysia. Cause I have seen plentiful of them.

What you see is still CIS/Arrow is still in the verge of no cash pool but they still got to TI4, so I'll commend them for achieving so far for experience but without any returns.



Maybe you will think about what I say when most of the players , gamers reached 30s.

If you are truly good you would have made it to the scene. But your attitude is so bossy that no one will actually listen to you. You have let your self-importance dictate most of the things you do.

If you work on your attitude problems you may still have chance to be on the scene and as a fellow Malaysian I will wish you the best, else, who actually cares if you have managed a lot or none. You might be too vigorous inside to understand what I am saying, but your attitude just does not invite any luck to you.

Passion and attitudes are two things. You can have passion but if your attitudes are bad you will still be forgotten.

Who cares if you are top of the world, or the richest, or the most skilled players. If you don't have the attitude, nobody actually cares and appreciates.

Regardless of how clever you might think you are, being humble is always the first step to being getting recognised and respected.

Whow..alot of young verse old post going on.

Mmm..I feel the best team are made up of level-headed experience and prodigal young talent.

Perfect example? EG. Though Fear doesnt play anymore,he still does have a say in the team, RTZ is gonna grow as the perfect player under his tutelage.

But that just this olde fags opinion.
Heh,anyway,who am I kidding.When we're pushing on our mid twenties,priorities kinda change ya know.Maybe it really is a young man games after all.

Oh well.Best of luck with your team OP. Malaysia needs its rep at every TI,don't let the koreans conquer it all !!

Guys, respect please. This is a recruitment thread.

Kalau tak puas hati, PM or open new thread about young players vs old players. When i was 16 i made a similar recruitment post on facebook. Kena hentam kaw2. So thread starter, please ignore these people, this is your team, you set the rule.

If i'm not wrong the captain of this team is only 16 year old, and he's a 5k mmr player. So young but he's better than than the rest of you. Imagine 2 years from now.

The worst thing he can do is play under 4k mmr captain who thinks he's superior because of his experience. I've been scolded in LAN tournament when i was 16, in front of other people, by my former team captain. He's a trash level player, both attitude and game knowledge wise. Last week we scrim twice against his current team. My draft vs his draft, not even close game. Its like punching baby in the face repeatedly.

My point is if you go to LAN tournament with older players, you cannot exert your superiority on them if you're too young. If you cannot influence your team as their captain, then your team is bound to fail. To me this has nothing to do with younger players are better than older players.

im interesting
dota name : flowerflower

5.1k mmr.. but not 20s anymore.. haha

Oooo.. sound like very pro only

Since someone bumped this thread, the captain of this team won this tournament.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3320265