25? 27-29 is still considered young. E-Sports does not restrict age, MMY and others were probably over 25-26+++ now and they still play. It's a matter of playing for passion and seriousness.

There's no saying 25, you should quit.
So you called them immature? But that's just your POV. Black^ joined them and did managed to join TI4 at least. Young teams can surprise if they have 5 willing individuals with sponsor alike.
I'll put it here. It shows our "community" standard too. I'll put a rest and ignore most unnecessary things. No deeper flames then.

Let me ask you something. What you see is human reaction so as MINE?
rOtK with ViCi Gaming, he flames/psychologically even STRONGER or too FAR than my level. Why people respect his team? Because he flames and the team listens!

Simple. It's like you think I'm showing "elitist" attitude but you don't know my story. I compete in D1/D2/SF4 and many console series before. Top 3s in local although not that good but many OK players were defeated.

To be honest with you, I wouldn't want to tell you this. I'm not afraid of losing in one field because there are pros in fields I love in all. I respect the higher ups but not those with real bad attitudes or mama boys who can't earn their own pocket money.

If you think that way, I'm not trying to show "elitist" but more to helping the community see that I'm a strict , passionate , serious E-Sports runner. Oh and with flaws of course seen everywhere. I just bash those who does not listen properly to how to improve Malaysia instead of saying I hate "Arrow".

Oh plz... I know their player's track record in my finger. They can not even outrule Dota 2. Oh and I have many backups of title instead of that game. So the point is, I wanted all sectors to have more matured , better players than me perhaps as I'm more to (community analyst , runner) since 5-6 years ago.

I managed 3 years in flying spaghetti monster banning many "r-tards" in Malaysia. Cause I have seen plentiful of them.

What you see is still CIS/Arrow is still in the verge of no cash pool but they still got to TI4, so I'll commend them for achieving so far for experience but without any returns.
Maybe you will think about what I say when most of the players , gamers reached 30s.