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SUSsniperz
post Jul 10 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jul 10 2014, 02:34 PM)
I understand why you might think this way, but not everything should be taken at face value. I apologize in advance for the wall of text that follows, but I hope you take the time to read through.

The current pool of players come from a very friendly environment. Valve has made a positive reinforcement part and parcel of the DotA 2 atmosphere, allowing players to improve at an accelerated rate. Good players are instantly picked out of matchmaking. In comparison, the old school league/inhouse method to grooming talent was a lot more biased and hostile. You had to avoid pissing off moderators, and you'd be subjected to a world of abuse for screwing up. Players came down hard on others for even the smallest of mistakes. Sounds like hell, so why would anyone put themselves through it when the newer method advocated by Valve is so much less stressful?

The answer lies in the question itself - the older method put a lot of focus on players dealing with stress. One might argue that there's a difference between positive and negative stress, but the tools for dealing with it remain the same. Compare teams that consist of new players with those from the old guard. The newer players definitely have more skill than the older ones (and by older players I don't mean their age, but rather from the old school system), and the response time to match. So what's holding them back? Why are teams with these older players still dominating the pro scene? Simple - the ability to perform under stress. Just look at the current TI standings and you'll see what I mean.

There's no doubt that you're a good player, but your past is forcing you to heavily underestimate the benefits of being experienced. If you really intend to go pro, your focus should be on consolidating the best of both worlds, rather than rejecting one outright. Out with the old, in with the new isn't always the best approach.
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I don't know much but you do make a good point.


SUSsniperz
post Jul 13 2014, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 9 2014, 09:38 PM)
most of them retired around 25. just admit it, old people cant keep up with younger people
i will stop here, wont post other reply here, dont disturb ts recruit thread
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25? 27-29 is still considered young. E-Sports does not restrict age, MMY and others were probably over 25-26+++ now and they still play. It's a matter of playing for passion and seriousness.

There's no saying 25, you should quit.

QUOTE(darksider @ Jul 10 2014, 10:12 PM)
Look at CIS, beaten DK, Newbee but relatively immature and hot-tempered, lost their wildcard and went to ti4 hving not trained for once in 40 days.
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So you called them immature? But that's just your POV. Black^ joined them and did managed to join TI4 at least. Young teams can surprise if they have 5 willing individuals with sponsor alike.



QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Jul 12 2014, 11:31 PM)
Please dont share personal information in LYN.... Im already looking into this issue. It has been plaguing this forum and others as well. We will let the staff/admins to judge this.
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I'll put it here. It shows our "community" standard too. I'll put a rest and ignore most unnecessary things. No deeper flames then.
SUSsniperz
post Jul 13 2014, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(darksider @ Jul 13 2014, 12:04 PM)
POV? Have you seen the live video taken right after their defeat to liquid uploaded by IMBATV? If you have seen you would be surprised how immature they are. They are willing yes, but all in the wrong way. They dont communicate to team manager and even the boss when there are issues. They keep it to weibo, to their heart and take it all personal while the boss who financed them everything didnt know they hadn't trained for 40 days until he saw it himself in weibo.
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Let me ask you something. What you see is human reaction so as MINE?


rOtK with ViCi Gaming, he flames/psychologically even STRONGER or too FAR than my level. Why people respect his team? Because he flames and the team listens!

Simple. It's like you think I'm showing "elitist" attitude but you don't know my story. I compete in D1/D2/SF4 and many console series before. Top 3s in local although not that good but many OK players were defeated.

To be honest with you, I wouldn't want to tell you this. I'm not afraid of losing in one field because there are pros in fields I love in all. I respect the higher ups but not those with real bad attitudes or mama boys who can't earn their own pocket money.

If you think that way, I'm not trying to show "elitist" but more to helping the community see that I'm a strict , passionate , serious E-Sports runner. Oh and with flaws of course seen everywhere. I just bash those who does not listen properly to how to improve Malaysia instead of saying I hate "Arrow".

Oh plz... I know their player's track record in my finger. They can not even outrule Dota 2. Oh and I have many backups of title instead of that game. So the point is, I wanted all sectors to have more matured , better players than me perhaps as I'm more to (community analyst , runner) since 5-6 years ago.

I managed 3 years in flying spaghetti monster banning many "r-tards" in Malaysia. Cause I have seen plentiful of them.

What you see is still CIS/Arrow is still in the verge of no cash pool but they still got to TI4, so I'll commend them for achieving so far for experience but without any returns.



Maybe you will think about what I say when most of the players , gamers reached 30s.


 

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