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TSfarmleSSS
post Jul 9 2014, 07:57 PM, updated 12y ago

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Team Insanity is looking for two more member to join team ( 4k solo MMR and above)


Conditions: Has to be below 20 years old
Has to be able to communicate in English properly through skype with a mic
Humble and ready to learn player
Has to accept teachings and voice out opinion if disagree with something

Training time: Weekdays from 5 pm onwards unless not free and weekends whole day if possible

Add this guy if you're interested.
Steam ID: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198082583235/
SUSTheHitman47
post Jul 9 2014, 08:12 PM

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why below 20?.
TSfarmleSSS
post Jul 9 2014, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 9 2014, 09:12 PM)
why below 20?.
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got potential can train together for future tournaments.
if too old then he might stop dota after awhile
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post Jul 9 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 9 2014, 08:12 PM)
why below 20?.
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younger people faster reflex
SUSTheHitman47
post Jul 9 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(farmleSSS @ Jul 9 2014, 08:15 PM)
got potential can train together for future tournaments.
if too old then he might stop dota after awhile
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i dont think 21 count as "too old".

anyway its your team, good luck buddy. nod.gif
zerlex
post Jul 9 2014, 08:30 PM

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age discrimination detected ! anyway, good luck ! thumbup.gif
TSfarmleSSS
post Jul 9 2014, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 9 2014, 09:17 PM)
i dont think 21 count as "too old".

anyway its your team, good luck buddy.  nod.gif
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SUSTheHitman47
post Jul 9 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 9 2014, 08:17 PM)
younger people faster reflex
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dont want to starting something but even world dota champion player are around 20++ something iinm.
so the "younger people faster reflex" points, is not right.

This post has been edited by TheHitman47: Jul 9 2014, 09:33 PM
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post Jul 9 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 9 2014, 09:32 PM)
dont want to starting something but even world dota champion player are around 20++ something iinm.
so the "younger people faster reflex" points, is not right.
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most of them retired around 25. just admit it, old people cant keep up with younger people


i will stop here, wont post other reply here, dont disturb ts recruit thread

This post has been edited by ~min~: Jul 9 2014, 09:41 PM
SUSTheHitman47
post Jul 9 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 9 2014, 09:38 PM)
most of them retired around 25. just admit it, old people cant keep up with younger people
i will stop here, wont post other reply here, dont disturb ts recruit thread
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that different story than "younger people has faster reflex". tongue.gif
cant keep up?, still not see any 12-13 years old become world champion yet.

sorry ts, i wont bother you anymore.
and again good luck! thumbup.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(zerlex @ Jul 9 2014, 08:30 PM)
age discrimination detected ! anyway, good luck ! thumbup.gif
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Please, most of time it was older players who discriminate against younger people.

Older players are stubborn, you think a 16 year old can control bunch of early to mid 20s players in his team. NO!
I'm talking from experience. I'm 18 now, i have experience bad experience with older players when i was 16.

Thank god we have solo mmr ranking and leaderboards now. Back then i had the entire teammates made of older p;ayers blamed me when things went wrong, even though i'm clearly superior than them. How did i know i was the better player? Whenever i played solo match, every single game have 50++ spectator. I got matched with zsmj, chuan, cty, ig stack , lgd stack and other sea pros when i was 16. Still my own teammates who i thought were my friends treat me like shit.

So i can see where he's coming from. Older people are too arrogant and too stubborn to change.
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post Jul 10 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Jul 10 2014, 03:48 AM)
Please, most of time it was older players who discriminate against younger people.

Older players are stubborn, you think a 16 year old can control bunch of early to mid 20s players in his team. NO!
I'm talking from experience. I'm 18 now, i have experience bad experience with older players when i was 16.

Thank god we have solo mmr ranking and leaderboards now. Back then i had the entire teammates made of older p;ayers blamed me when things went wrong, even though i'm clearly superior than them. How did i know i was the better player? Whenever i played solo match, every single game have 50++ spectator. I got matched with zsmj, chuan, cty, ig stack , lgd stack and other sea pros when i was 16. Still my own teammates who i thought were my friends treat me like shit.

So i can see where he's coming from. Older people are too arrogant and too stubborn to change.
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i'd say its case to case bro.
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post Jul 10 2014, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Jul 10 2014, 03:48 AM)
Please, most of time it was older players who discriminate against younger people.

Older players are stubborn, you think a 16 year old can control bunch of early to mid 20s players in his team. NO!
I'm talking from experience. I'm 18 now, i have experience bad experience with older players when i was 16.

Thank god we have solo mmr ranking and leaderboards now. Back then i had the entire teammates made of older p;ayers blamed me when things went wrong, even though i'm clearly superior than them. How did i know i was the better player? Whenever i played solo match, every single game have 50++ spectator. I got matched with zsmj, chuan, cty, ig stack , lgd stack and other sea pros when i was 16. Still my own teammates who i thought were my friends treat me like shit.

So i can see where he's coming from. Older people are too arrogant and too stubborn to change.
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I understand why you might think this way, but not everything should be taken at face value. I apologize in advance for the wall of text that follows, but I hope you take the time to read through.

The current pool of players come from a very friendly environment. Valve has made a positive reinforcement part and parcel of the DotA 2 atmosphere, allowing players to improve at an accelerated rate. Good players are instantly picked out of matchmaking. In comparison, the old school league/inhouse method to grooming talent was a lot more biased and hostile. You had to avoid pissing off moderators, and you'd be subjected to a world of abuse for screwing up. Players came down hard on others for even the smallest of mistakes. Sounds like hell, so why would anyone put themselves through it when the newer method advocated by Valve is so much less stressful?

The answer lies in the question itself - the older method put a lot of focus on players dealing with stress. One might argue that there's a difference between positive and negative stress, but the tools for dealing with it remain the same. Compare teams that consist of new players with those from the old guard. The newer players definitely have more skill than the older ones (and by older players I don't mean their age, but rather from the old school system), and the response time to match. So what's holding them back? Why are teams with these older players still dominating the pro scene? Simple - the ability to perform under stress. Just look at the current TI standings and you'll see what I mean.

There's no doubt that you're a good player, but your past is forcing you to heavily underestimate the benefits of being experienced. If you really intend to go pro, your focus should be on consolidating the best of both worlds, rather than rejecting one outright. Out with the old, in with the new isn't always the best approach.
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post Jul 10 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jul 10 2014, 02:34 PM)
I understand why you might think this way, but not everything should be taken at face value. I apologize in advance for the wall of text that follows, but I hope you take the time to read through.

The current pool of players come from a very friendly environment. Valve has made a positive reinforcement part and parcel of the DotA 2 atmosphere, allowing players to improve at an accelerated rate. Good players are instantly picked out of matchmaking. In comparison, the old school league/inhouse method to grooming talent was a lot more biased and hostile. You had to avoid pissing off moderators, and you'd be subjected to a world of abuse for screwing up. Players came down hard on others for even the smallest of mistakes. Sounds like hell, so why would anyone put themselves through it when the newer method advocated by Valve is so much less stressful?

The answer lies in the question itself - the older method put a lot of focus on players dealing with stress. One might argue that there's a difference between positive and negative stress, but the tools for dealing with it remain the same. Compare teams that consist of new players with those from the old guard. The newer players definitely have more skill than the older ones (and by older players I don't mean their age, but rather from the old school system), and the response time to match. So what's holding them back? Why are teams with these older players still dominating the pro scene? Simple - the ability to perform under stress. Just look at the current TI standings and you'll see what I mean.

There's no doubt that you're a good player, but your past is forcing you to heavily underestimate the benefits of being experienced. If you really intend to go pro, your focus should be on consolidating the best of both worlds, rather than rejecting one outright. Out with the old, in with the new isn't always the best approach.
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I don't know much but you do make a good point.


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post Jul 10 2014, 07:48 PM

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post Jul 10 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 9 2014, 09:32 PM)
dont want to starting something but even world dota champion player are around 20++ something iinm.
so the "younger people faster reflex" points, is not right.
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Some of the best are the youngest. Arteezy and ddz is just 18.
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post Jul 10 2014, 10:12 PM

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Look at CIS, beaten DK, Newbee but relatively immature and hot-tempered, lost their wildcard and went to ti4 hving not trained for once in 40 days.
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post Jul 13 2014, 04:48 AM

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up.. finding 1 more player to join us
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post Jul 13 2014, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 9 2014, 09:38 PM)
most of them retired around 25. just admit it, old people cant keep up with younger people
i will stop here, wont post other reply here, dont disturb ts recruit thread
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25? 27-29 is still considered young. E-Sports does not restrict age, MMY and others were probably over 25-26+++ now and they still play. It's a matter of playing for passion and seriousness.

There's no saying 25, you should quit.

QUOTE(darksider @ Jul 10 2014, 10:12 PM)
Look at CIS, beaten DK, Newbee but relatively immature and hot-tempered, lost their wildcard and went to ti4 hving not trained for once in 40 days.
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So you called them immature? But that's just your POV. Black^ joined them and did managed to join TI4 at least. Young teams can surprise if they have 5 willing individuals with sponsor alike.



QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Jul 12 2014, 11:31 PM)
Please dont share personal information in LYN.... Im already looking into this issue. It has been plaguing this forum and others as well. We will let the staff/admins to judge this.
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I'll put it here. It shows our "community" standard too. I'll put a rest and ignore most unnecessary things. No deeper flames then.
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post Jul 13 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 9 2014, 09:38 PM)
most of them retired around 25. just admit it, old people cant keep up with younger people
i will stop here, wont post other reply here, dont disturb ts recruit thread
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perli gua la tu..
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