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 Xiaomi Mi3 Official Thread V11, Strictly on technical discussion ONLY!

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post Jul 14 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 14 2014, 10:50 AM)
Guys, please don't be so harsh on me. I did my homework. Read all reviews for this phone. But there are not enough reviews to make up my mind.

Only I didn't read alll v11 of the forums. Just bits and pieces. Too much people commenting about delivery, raging.
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There're a hundred ppl raging abt delivery....but 1000 ppl who receive their items satisfied but never complain nor comment. Think abt it.

Major note is if you like LTE mobile speed, MI3 is not for you. If you like to use SD card or stores huge data, MI3 is not for you either. Battery capacity seems huge at 3000mah but in reality MI3 sucked up screen juice really really fast compared to Samsung Amoled. Amoled does have major advantage of no using any power for displaying black colour.

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post Jul 14 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 14 2014, 11:03 AM)
Actually not from reading on forums or anything. Five of my friends have issue with their samsung. 2 of them charge with powerbank, it died. Both are S3

Another one is battery drain in less than 6 hours. S3

Two of them complain samsung damn lag. S3 and S4.

This one I read from lowyat forum. Someone said they saw long queue at Samsung SC. This one I read from another article. It mentioned that Samsung choose plastic to enable them to mass produce their Galaxy. Samsung own words.

I do think that the note line (not its variance) are of higher quality compare to galaxy s line

But all this are off topic.
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I encased my S4 with Spigen Armor View casing, so plastic or not, no difference to me. So why bother with what ppl say as its their preference. I do know polycarbonate plastic used are darn tahan lasak, that buys it for me.

Battery drain in 6 hours....my mom is using S3, last a whole 2 days. It really depends on what and how they use the phone, what celup apps they installed that drain the battery hard as it HAPPENED to practically all android phones if apps goes rogue and users just blame it on the phone instead. Want the more trouble free phone, iphone is really the one to go for but at that price, not many ppl can afford it.

My s4 is ultra smooth, so what lags, probably your friend bogs in down with background running apps. Its user issues.

More ppl using a brand, more chances of ppl encountering failure, that's how its is. I can only sell 2 phones and say hey, I got 100% satisfied report from my customers.

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post Jul 14 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Jul 14 2014, 11:26 AM)
Yes Mi3 got no LTE.

Yes Mi3 got no SD Card.

The battery on the Mi3 with 5 hours Screen Time. I unplug at 7am and until 11pm still have 10-15% battery left. So whatever tech Samsung has on the Amoled is pointless if you have to scramble for a powerbank or wall hug a socket after 3pm.
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I'm comparing my USAGE of MI3 vs my existing S4. So its a valid comparison, not technical one tho coz on paper spec, 5 hours screen time is a lot but on real life usage it usually varies.

Oh...I unplug my S4 at 6am and plug back at 12pm, still got 20% left....so how ar as it seems I never find the need to use powerbank halfway thru the day with either phones either.. hmm.gif

Oh my daughter's MI3 unplug at 8am and she blows thru all the power by 12pm...it really really depends on usage. Both batteries really have no issue blasting thru a day or 2 on casual usage.

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post Jul 14 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Jul 14 2014, 11:28 AM)
haha, pocket money is "own earn" money? hmm.gif

i didn't said you 'own' money, but i said 'own earn' money...

own earn money = you go to work, and get salary, that is earn money  brows.gif
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That also you want to argue kah !!! doh.gif whistling.gif

Tell that to my daughter, I'm sure she will have a different view of what you say lor...and insist she is right...in her view.. whistling.gif

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post Jul 14 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jul 14 2014, 11:35 AM)
stop feeding the troll, if you know who i mean...
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Personally I don't think that's trolling coz he is really unsure and doubtful abt it, even with several convincing, we just need to lay out reasoning in various "format" to convince him if possible.

I'm that way myself last time, thus I understand very well and I'm very long breath and patient in explaining assuming I got it right myself (found myself wrong big time several times tho, don't mind being corrected).

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post Jul 14 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Max2006 @ Jul 14 2014, 12:19 PM)
Besides of keep worrying about those matters, why don't you just let your sister to decide on what she wants? What? You said she always depend on you and will use whatever you decided? How old are your sister? Unless she is still in kindergarden or primary school. If not, then don't spoil her too much.

Ask her to do the research. Ask her to decide. It's her brother: you who will buy the phone for her. This is the least thing she should do (to show her appreciation).

And don't tell us that your sister cannot make decision on this. This is just a god damn phone that can only last for 2-3 years. It's not like you are going to marry someone and stick to him forever. Tell her to act like an adult and make her own choice. Then you can give yourself a break from keep worrying this and that for her.
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I guess you really don't have anyone with you that is really ignorant on tech, is it not?

I have a sister WHO is not really good at IT, if ask her to do research, habis, don't know what comes out. So she will always ask her brother to find and decide for her and trust me on that since I'm familiar or at least able to do more thorough research than one who don't have any idea where to start and what to do.

If I have someone who I deem is MUCH stronger than me in a field and I need a solution from that field, would it be faster for me to do take time to do research for something I'm not really keen to go into details or I just ask that someone to do it for me (I know he's willing, no prob)....

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post Jul 14 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 14 2014, 12:22 PM)
Actually yes and no. When I heard about mi3, google the specs, and price in RM, I was blown away. That time, I decided if I were to replace my sony, it will be a mi. For what I pay so much for a phone with similar specs when I can get a phone with last year specs at such a low price? WIth Google's Android Hugo Bara with xiaomi, I am sure they are high quality phone.

Then I read about the bugs of the mi3 and how it was not fix. That was when I start having doubts. That is why my other choice was z1c. Having good experience with my zr. Naturally, I will pick zr successor which is z1c.
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Mm...warranty might really be an issue if you live far away coz unlike phone shops where you can send it, MI3, you need to go yourself to SC especially if its in a different town. Never really think of that coz all the current SC is within my reach.

For your sis, if she only do whatapps, wechat, sms, phone calls, surf net, etc, I doubt she will encounter any bugs or might even be ignorant of a bug that might irritate us but she just glide over it without realising its a bug.

Even S4, if really read up on it, there's tons of bugs and complain here and there but in reality, the only one that is visible to me is this widget hang thingy that does not happen to everyone and besides that, I don't see or realise any visible bugs, so don't put too much into bugs reporting. And if you really look carefully, you might just realise a lot of these bugs reporting does not come from stock rom as well.

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post Jul 14 2014, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Max2006 @ Jul 14 2014, 12:53 PM)
I also have 2 sisters who also not good at IT stuff. I guess I am kind of a strict brother. Whenever they want to buy IT stuff, I would let them do the researches on their own. Internet is there. So it should not be difficult to do so. I still would give my suggestions. But at the end, it's their own call. To other people, it may sound like I am reluctant to help. But my sisters know that it's for their own good. Big brother or any other family member will not always be around with you all the time. One day you will have to count on yourself when it comes to decision making. So it's always better to practice now and learn thorugh experience, rather than being helpless in the future.

Oops. Kind of out of topic here. Sorry for the long story. sweat.gif
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Try to discipline your OLDER sister who has look after you... whistling.gif
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post Jul 14 2014, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(hhng @ Jul 14 2014, 12:52 PM)
need help sometime my stock messaging app it show the number instead of contact name but something it show contact name... any way to fix it?
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Put +6 into your ALL your contact number. If your number does not begin with +60 (country code), that problem that you mention will appear. Note that when contact name appear when receiving sms, that means that number in your contact has already have +60 in front.
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post Jul 15 2014, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Jul 15 2014, 07:39 PM)
You just download the app found on my page 1. Later run it, it will prompt u to update latest version. That should gives the chinese ver...
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I'm using the English version.

Mind tell me what is the stability differences with Chinese if you know? There is a delay for mikey to activate whenever i first use it (probably for program to load). So if I clear memory, clear program, etc, it will take a few second to activate when I use it. After that its smooth.

Oh btw, I'm using it with my S4 instead coz my daughter I bought the key for likes to use piston iem instead.

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post Jul 15 2014, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Verticalclutch @ Jul 15 2014, 07:12 PM)
Hey guys, I'm a new mi3 owner . just got my phone today..

Need your advise with an issue I seem to be facing. Every time I wake my phone there's an error that pops up and goes away.

As I meddled with the phone I discovered that when I hold my palm over the top speaker area where the front facing can is.. The "error" stays on.

Its the prompt that says to not cover the top part of the phone to avoid aaccidental dials.

Each time I wake my phone this happens. Is there any thing I should be worried with?
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Did you remove the stock protector that cover your screen? If you have not coz waiting for real protector before peeling it off, try lift//peel the top blocking/covering the top sensors and try again.
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post Jul 16 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 16 2014, 04:39 PM)
Anyone knows where to find a user manual for MI3? Can't find it....
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I tot there is a readme manual in the home screen when you get the phone? Never bother reading it, so not sure how what is in it.
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post Jul 16 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(szejz123 @ Jul 16 2014, 06:25 PM)
I just got two Xiaomi 10000 mah powerbanks. May I know how long does it take to receive it? Thanks. biggrin.gif unsure.gif
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Can go here and ask

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3289982/+480&#entry69293349
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post Jul 17 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Zelz92 @ Jul 17 2014, 08:32 AM)
after using this phone for nearly a month now, i notice theres lag in its OS. I use same app, open same app with my iPhone. so gonna change back to iOS I guess.
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IOS is almost always smoother and more efficient as its customized to a single phone spec. Its much more stable but lack customization features unless you jailbreak. So if you want to change back to IOS, be prepared to pay 3 times the price you pay for MI3 tho. The massive price differences is the one that "encourage" many to just bear with the slight delay vs $$$ lost.
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Jul 17 2014, 11:30 AM)
guys just wondering what casing are you guys using? i read somewhere that most of the casing sold in garage sales here are not compatible with WCMDA version because the sellers get it directly from china

for example the rock shield series, can anyone verify and recommend a compatible casing in the market now

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If you're looking for flip case, the best quality I've seen is Torras branded. Its compatible with our version. All my MI3 are using these flip casing (colour flip, 2 tone). For my father in law, I've gotten the business looking Torras Cow Leather case, a real high quality hard leather case that should protect against direct impact of crush externally.

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post Jul 17 2014, 12:52 PM

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Been using mikey for my Galaxy S4.

Looking at battery consumption, the mikey app (Chinese) process seems to take 3% of the battery with wakelock number 80 times and 11 min. in total. That is without clicking on mikey even once.

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post Jul 17 2014, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(PetomJL @ Jul 17 2014, 02:22 PM)
Ya la.. it is actually awake  blink.gif

I thought I've made sure I will kill the running process everytime (because I noticed the phone tend to get hot if mikey app is running on the background).

How do we turn it off then? Cabut mikey?
I think last time I read that some users were given F-code as consolation when they kept asking about the delay/lack of update. Maybe you can try make some 'noise' via email  brows.gif
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I always remove mikey from active program and keep the option running in background (in Mikey app) off. I understand the process MUST run if mikey, that's expected.

As for battery optimization, I think MI3 screen whack a lot more juice off when compared with S4, thus if no use phone screen, MI3 will have more juice but if use it at same screen time as S4, its gonna go down way faster (I attribute that to AMOLED black pixel no use power).

So having a 3K mah battery is not a major advantage over S4 if both uses same amt of display time, that's my 2 cents.

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[quote=suntzulee,Jul 17 2014, 02:14 PM]
pls dont discuss all these annoying update... sad.gif

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The chap with order issue has a rare error, not those "coming 2 days", "ups never show up" posts. It is for me a valid "technical" post, as it IS related to official website AND its a technical issue, in fact. As long as other posters does not complain and all are actually helping, I don't see why TS should "warn" it.

Please note again, the main reason we got a problem last time is the "REPORT" button and the current mod has already posted, as long as its not direct advertisement or direct self sales posts, and no one complaining (report button no press), no issue. So loosen up, it makes the thread more "flexible" and varied in information.

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post Jul 17 2014, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Jul 17 2014, 03:30 PM)
Note 3 owner want open Mi3 thread??? sound not logic... hmm.gif
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Yalor, why would a BMW owner wants to be a TS for proton.... whistling.gif

Actually I got no problem with current TS, just a bit too dictatorial coz kena burn before thus I ask to relax a bit coz MOD has already clarified, as long as not a direct self sales or advertisement posts AND no one complain about it AND not trolling (serious posters trolls sometimes sure allowed but not those annoying trolls that seeks to annoy), they got no issue as well.

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post Jul 17 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Jul 17 2014, 03:34 PM)
might have but very slow one. so aka stuck with miui for now.  sad.gif
on Stock rom is it, your s4?
but s4 can upgrade to 7.5k battery. which some people ok with the size, no diff with carrying power bank here and there.

based on heavy usage, (I do have 3k and 4.2k battery), 4.2k will be only finish 7am (morning) till 12am (midnight) SOT 6-8 hours.
Greenify it nod.gif

On heavy usage:-

2.1k battery 3-4 hours SOT, 3k battery max SOT is 5-6 hours, while 4.2k around 6-8 hours sweat.gif
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Don't want to root. Prefer stock coz no want to mess with system. Too many data in my phone now, even stayed with 4.3 coz 4.4 kitkat need factory reset to run smoothly.

Greenify need roots although non-root version working but still only in early stage. Wonder tho, whether my batt is degraded.

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