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5p3ak
post Aug 19 2014, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Aug 19 2014, 12:06 PM)
Support can have as much impact as core in solo rmm. Most players have mental block, they already assume that core roles are the only way to win the game. From my experience playing support to raise your mmr from 4.7k to 5.4k is as easy as playing core roles. I don't see the difference between both roles in term of impact. These days i only play random in solo rmm, my support winrate is actually higher than my core winrate.

I've supported shitty carry/mid against 5k cores, and we won. The key is patience, and do not to open your fvking mouth. Supports who always said "omg i'm supporting noob" needs to be re-trenched.
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I believe communication is quite important in game

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 19 2014, 02:38 PM)
i rather asking what core item they buy and will suggest a better item if they really plan to go stupid item...
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oh this reminds me of being scolded by noobs cuz my Viper get Mek...my Huskar get GS and Agha laugh.gif

and all those supposedly "stupid" items

This post has been edited by 5p3ak: Aug 19 2014, 07:54 PM
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post Aug 19 2014, 07:56 PM

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This is how i view support role.
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Proof that you can have big impact as supports.

Me as 5.5k supporting sub 4.8k teammates.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/843911026

Supporting sub 5.0k teammates, its a loss but still close. Sniped courier twice in this game.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/843501413

See my death count compared to my supporting partner. I don't think i can learn map awareness by playing only support role. Playing tinker and meepo helps a lot. That's why i tell my support player to play only carry/mid in solo rmm.

When i first started coaching my support player 2 month ago, he was only a 4.2k mmr, his support failed so hard. Now he's closing to 4.7k mmr, and he play support better than some 5k players i met in solo rmm. For me he was the mvp for our team when we participated in online tournament 2 weeks ago. If you look at his dotabuff you might think he's a carry or mid player. Oh btw, i didn't spoon fed him, 90% of his improvement comes from his own homework, attitude, and humility. I only point him the correct way. I won't coach a whining, conceited 4k players.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Aug 19 2014, 07:51 PM)
I believe communication is quite important in game
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What i really meant was, do not comment no matter how bad your core players play. Some supports like to give comment like this, "OMFG this fv is noob". If he noob, give him tongkat la, thats the reason support role exist.

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post Aug 19 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Aug 19 2014, 07:56 PM)
This is how i view support role.
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Proof that you can have big impact as supports.

Me as 5.5k supporting sub 4.8k teammates.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/843911026

Supporting sub 5.0k teammates, its a loss but still close. Sniped courier twice in this game.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/843501413

See my death count compared to my supporting partner. I don't think i can learn map awareness by playing only support role. Playing tinker and meepo helps a lot. That's why i tell my support player to play only carry/mid in solo rmm.

When i first started coaching my support player 2 month ago, he was only a 4.2k mmr, his support failed so hard. Now he's closing to 4.7k mmr, and he play support better than some 5k players i met in solo rmm. For me he was the mvp for our team when we participated in online tournament 2 weeks ago. If you look at his dotabuff you might think he's a carry or mid player. Oh btw, i didn't spoon fed him, 90% of his improvement comes from his own homework, attitude, and humility. I only point him the correct way. I won't coach a whining, conceited 4k players.
What i really meant was, do not comment no matter how bad your core players play. Some supports like to give comment like this, "OMFG this fv is noob". If he noob, give him tongkat la, thats the reason support role exist.
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I only can blame my self if someone in my team is noob cuz I get queued with noobs = I noob also cry.gif

Sometimes when you try to help is like...mandarin got a saying "play piano to cow", you advise fell on deaf ears sad.gif


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post Aug 19 2014, 08:16 PM

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/rant

been awhile since i saw pinoy in my game
saw at start game type in pinoy
confirm ggwp game -24 mmr
haha
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post Aug 19 2014, 09:04 PM

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so true and funny XD thumbup.gif

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mudkipryan94
post Aug 19 2014, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 19 2014, 06:55 PM)
Yea, and usually there's 2 outcome.
1st, I delay my core. For example, there's one game where I really need my blink urgently but no choice, less than 1k gold, had to buy wards.ended up losing the game cause I was the only initiator.

2nd, i try to rush my core item. Its either I manage to get it and win the game, or I can never get enough gold to complete them.

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I can't really play carry heroes, cause 1, I have not much experience playing carry. last hit so-so, can say below average at times.  2, I don't know when to leave lane to team fight/ counter gank. 3, Sometimes I will just tunnel vision and duno who to aim during teamfight. tongue.gif
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Kesian you... but if u're a good support, then is another diff. story lah smile.gif

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Did u know how i train my carry?
-Watch some Ti3/4 Highlights
-Do more practice on Public gaming... (mau train like NWP/Mushi tier, train yourself for 7 hrs )
-if someone req. for gank, yes just go... smile.gif

QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Aug 19 2014, 06:58 PM)
Please do not double post in this sub-forum. Use the EDIT function
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sorry bang.. forgot to use multi quotes
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post Aug 19 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Aug 19 2014, 07:56 PM)
This is how i view support role.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Proof that you can have big impact as supports.

Me as 5.5k supporting sub 4.8k teammates.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/843911026

Supporting sub 5.0k teammates, its a loss but still close. Sniped courier twice in this game.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/843501413

See my death count compared to my supporting partner. I don't think i can learn map awareness by playing only support role. Playing tinker and meepo helps a lot. That's why i tell my support player to play only carry/mid in solo rmm.

When i first started coaching my support player 2 month ago, he was only a 4.2k mmr, his support failed so hard. Now he's closing to 4.7k mmr, and he play support better than some 5k players i met in solo rmm. For me he was the mvp for our team when we participated in online tournament 2 weeks ago. If you look at his dotabuff you might think he's a carry or mid player. Oh btw, i didn't spoon fed him, 90% of his improvement comes from his own homework, attitude, and humility. I only point him the correct way. I won't coach a whining, conceited 4k players.
What i really meant was, do not comment no matter how bad your core players play. Some supports like to give comment like this, "OMFG this fv is noob". If he noob, give him tongkat la, thats the reason support role exist.
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Mind pointing me in some direction as well? smile.gif

QUOTE(hard2k @ Aug 19 2014, 08:16 PM)
/rant

been awhile since i saw pinoy in my game
saw at start game type in pinoy
confirm ggwp game -24 mmr
haha
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One small tip to have lesser chance to encounter pinoy:
Language, choose chinese/korean. Lesser pinoy but have more chinese. met koreans once and they spam korean too, but donn't have the bad pinoy's attitude.
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post Aug 19 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 18 2014, 02:05 PM)
Don't think that's quite possible.

Icex3 have a gf in china and he would prefer to stay in china to be with his gf i guess.

If anyone didn't know about his gf yet, this is her weibo.

http://t.qq.com/chenxiangp2012

Icex3's ign is cxp which is her initial.  wink.gif

Also, if anyone's interested, this is mushi's gf.

https://www.facebook.com/emily.kong.31?fref=browse_search

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Both also pretty deiii brows.gif
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post Aug 19 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Aug 19 2014, 10:12 PM)
Both also pretty deiii  brows.gif
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ikr? brows.gif

But I prefer icex3's tongue.gif
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post Aug 19 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Aug 19 2014, 10:12 PM)
Both also pretty deiii  brows.gif
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lel, this thread become amoi talks? tongue.gif...

anyway, who Thursday morning got free or not?

coz i wanna play 2 rounds for Public games..biggrin.gif
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:08 AM

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Is it my imagination or the ping is fine already in SEA server ?

around 90-120 ping now compared to ytd or this morning - afternoon 300-400
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Leonix7791 @ Aug 20 2014, 12:08 AM)
Is it my imagination or the ping is fine already in SEA server ?

around 90-120 ping now compared to ytd or this morning - afternoon 300-400
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not sure if your line prob or lapsap server prob.
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(Leonix7791 @ Aug 20 2014, 12:08 AM)
Is it my imagination or the ping is fine already in SEA server ?

around 90-120 ping now compared to ytd or this morning - afternoon 300-400
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midnight is more stable a bit..
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:33 AM

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hey guys , anyone uses the 7.1 audio ? is there any different ? because i am using Playstation Gold wireless headset and it supports 7.1 VirtualSS , so just curious
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 19 2014, 10:15 PM)
ikr?  brows.gif

But I prefer icex3's tongue.gif
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Iceiceice's girlfriend is definitely the prettier one, but given the level of faceproblem Mushi has in comparison to iceiceice, his relative achievement is much greater. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Aug 20 2014, 12:33 AM)
hey guys , anyone uses the 7.1 audio ? is there any different ? because i am using Playstation Gold wireless headset and it supports 7.1 VirtualSS , so just curious
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If your audio is set up properly, you can actually hear the direction in which BH is walking from if he casts WW within a certain radius. It's helpful, but not exactly to the level where it justifies getting a surround system.
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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Aug 20 2014, 12:33 AM)
hey guys , anyone uses the 7.1 audio ? is there any different ? because i am using Playstation Gold wireless headset and it supports 7.1 VirtualSS , so just curious
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use headphone not much different.


7.1 virtual they just emulate soundstage. any headset also can use
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Aug 19 2014, 07:51 PM)
I believe communication is quite important in game
oh this reminds me of being scolded by noobs cuz my Viper get Mek...my Huskar get GS and Agha  laugh.gif

and all those supposedly "stupid" items
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depend la, like one time got a match my team bs got kite kaw kaw and didn't got bkb, he go radiance and blademail instead... and die many times because of magics (tinker)
this one don't remember where is the match

this abaddon really bad in initiate and get BKB in very last moment . it is too late. doh.gif
ES and Thinker both is very good. but i play also not really good, i was aim for aghamin once i got my arcane but keep die then i notice dazzle no mekansm , then i had to buy to overcome the freaking silencer's ult (cause he disabled dazzle's healing skill in war) well this dazzle also won't really learn what's wrong. just the hero got healing skill doesn't means you no need to buy mekansm.
but still i failed because i can't even save up for BKB....
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/844232335

This post has been edited by Agito666: Aug 20 2014, 10:16 AM
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post Aug 20 2014, 10:26 AM

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every item is situational one...
as long as it works out fine its good xD
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wth with the server

stuck at 10/10 finding match doh.gif
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