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post Jun 18 2014, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 18 2014, 05:34 PM)
No different to normal key then...what's the point?? LOL.
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i agree with u. rclxms.gif
it shud not say remote keyless entry (again, correct me if im wrong, as i only base this on Preve turbo). shud rephrase it as just push start. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 18 2014, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 18 2014, 05:34 PM)
No different to normal key then...what's the point?? LOL.
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At least as compared to normal key ignition system, it is much harder to steal.
Try check on those thief magnet vehicle, push start or key ignition?
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post Jun 18 2014, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(devil_x @ Jun 18 2014, 03:20 PM)
Suprima S is keyless
unless u consider slotting in the keyless device into a slot in order to activate push startis not keyless tongue.gif
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no...


QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 18 2014, 05:15 PM)
Huh? You need to slot keyless device before pressing push start?
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because of this

QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 18 2014, 05:34 PM)
No different to normal key then...what's the point?? LOL.
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yes. Pointless, since after you slot the key, start the car, you can eject your key and continue driving.
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post Jun 18 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jun 18 2014, 06:21 PM)
At least as compared to normal key ignition system, it is much harder to steal.
Try check on those thief magnet vehicle, push start or key ignition?
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Erm. The easiest to steal are cars with keyless go. You don't need a key to drive away the car, so all you need to do is transmit the signal. Unless the car does some fancy communication with the key (e.g. send data to the remote control, have the remote control encrypt it with a key only car and remote know, and then send it back) AND analyses the time for the signal to arrive back, and on a regular basis, you can easily steal the car. But by doing so the power consumption of the key would be a bit high.

It is also the most elegant way of stealing a car, since there is no brute force, no suspicious activity involved. A man walks to the car, the car automatically unlocks, he gets in, drives away. No looking for some wires in the car, no trying to pick a lock, ...

And before anyone says why haven't we seen this before... actually students did demonstrate that this is possible (on a variety of vehicles, like BMW etc. IIRC), and the parts to do so are cheap.

I still prefer keys. They are at least a bit safer.

As for the GSC... I like it. 50-60k would be stupid though. Why would anyone get it over a Preve? Also, the boot lip (?) is quite high it seems, higher than in the Myvi. The lower it is, the easier to load and unload the boot.

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post Jun 18 2014, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(one81 @ Jun 18 2014, 03:18 PM)
actually when i attend the market survey for this car..
they also asking survey attendees how much we willing to pay for it and the price range started at 50k - 60k...
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If what you said is true and they are seriously considering that price range, I wish Proton all the luck in the world. They might as well start planning their next mega discount carnival.

Regardless of how much kit + the kitchen sink they're throwing into this car, even if they make it bulletproof, Malaysians are still likely going to go for Myvi/Axia/Picanto/Mirage or on the other end, Alza/Almera.

If they price it the same as Myvi's range or less, then we might have a bestseller pisang goreng panas.
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post Jun 18 2014, 07:30 PM

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Judging from various spy shots of this car, it seems that at least 2 variants would have DRL, judging from the design of the rims. However, the 6 spoker (smaller wheels, no body kit. Presumably a lower variant) does not come with smart entry button.

Good to know that DRL would at least be available on 2 variants.
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post Jun 18 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(chris2k @ Jun 18 2014, 07:04 PM)
If what you said is true and they are seriously considering that price range, I wish Proton all the luck in the world. They might as well start planning their next mega discount carnival.

Regardless of how much kit + the kitchen sink they're throwing into this car, even if they make it bulletproof, Malaysians are still likely going to go for Myvi/Axia/Picanto/Mirage or on the other end, Alza/Almera.

If they price it the same as Myvi's range or less, then we might have a bestseller pisang goreng panas.
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50 to 60k i take Picanto. This car must be 4xk only.
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post Jun 18 2014, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 18 2014, 07:35 PM)
50 to 60k i take Picanto. This car must be 4xk only.
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Pikachu K-car wor....this one is a B-hatch like Meevee.

If they put in a 1.6l.....I'd take this over Meevee or Pikachu.
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post Jun 18 2014, 08:10 PM

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Should put a highest variant with a turbo engine. Pick the same formula like how the VW Polo 1.2TSI manage to sell despite it is so damn small inside. Older fiesta 1.6 hatch also had great sales. Those are no sports car, but sporty hatch with good power.

Why wanna fight sales with Myvi ? Ppl buy Myvi because Malaysians perceive Perodua has better QC than Proton. Why not be more creative and carve your own niche market from youngsters, Proton ?

And please, if manual variant, go learn to make the clutch position easier to drive, short gear shifter . Don't do like the typical Persona manual settings, adjust clutch till so high and hard. Traffic jam so torturing to drive. Instrument cluster, at least look as good as the new Myvi . Or go copy abit from the Honda CRZ . Take a lesson from the Civic FD, it can sell , one of the reason because of the futuristic meter cluster .


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post Jun 18 2014, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 18 2014, 08:10 PM)
Should put a highest variant with a turbo engine. Pick the same formula like how the VW Polo 1.2TSI manage to sell despite it is so damn small inside. Older fiesta 1.6 hatch also had great sales. Those are no sports car, but sporty hatch with good power.

Why wanna fight sales with Myvi ? Ppl buy Myvi because Malaysians perceive Perodua has better QC than Proton. Why not be more creative and carve your own niche market from youngsters, Proton ?

And please, if manual variant, go learn to make the clutch position easier to drive, short gear shifter . Don't do like the typical Persona manual settings, adjust clutch till so high and hard. Traffic jam so torturing to drive.  Instrument cluster, at least look as good as the new Myvi . Or go copy abit from the Honda CRZ . Take a lesson from the Civic FD, it can sell , one of the reason because of the futuristic meter cluster .
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instrument cluster already leaked....nothing special there.
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Please tell me those gauges will lit up when you start the engine, instead of having to switch on the headlamp like the Saga....

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post Jun 18 2014, 09:01 PM

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IF this is the real instrument cluster , means it has a 2.0L NA equivalent ?? 240km/h meter wor...
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post Jun 18 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2014, 08:57 PM)
instrument cluster already leaked....nothing special there.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Please tell me those gauges will lit up when you start the engine, instead of having to switch on the headlamp like the Saga....
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should have chrome ring surrounding the gauge that will reflect the backlight..otherwise the gauge looks dull and cheap..

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post Jun 18 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2014, 08:57 PM)


Please tell me those gauges will lit up when you start the engine, instead of having to switch on the headlamp like the Saga....
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i personally liked the traditional one
instead of the optitron like the one in myvi and alza
no point having it lit up when engine start
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post Jun 18 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 18 2014, 09:01 PM)
IF this is the real instrument cluster , means it has a 2.0L NA equivalent ?? 240km/h meter wor...
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i was gonna comment on that too
240KM/H...prolly mean it has a turbocharged variant
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post Jun 18 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 18 2014, 09:01 PM)
IF this is the real instrument cluster , means it has a 2.0L NA equivalent ?? 240km/h meter wor...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2014, 09:22 PM)
i was gonna comment on that too
240KM/H...prolly mean it has a turbocharged variant
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Myvi 1.3 also have 220km/h la....

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Jun 18 2014, 09:02 PM)
should have chrome ring surrounding the gauge that will reflect the backlight..otherwise the gauge looks dull and cheap..
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u think polo meh laugh.gif My ciplak Fiesta also don't have sad.gif
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 18 2014, 07:35 PM)
50 to 60k i take Picanto. This car must be 4xk only.
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4x k is a reasonable and logical price. I'm actually waiting for GSC's launch before I decide which new car to get. It is an interesting car, but if it's 50-60k I might just consider other cars.

Rumours say that the Nissan March's coming here...
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post Jun 18 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2014, 09:32 PM)
Myvi 1.3 also have 220km/h la....

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i would say the GSC will be more archivable
proton usually are tuned for power and handling
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post Jun 18 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(chris2k @ Jun 18 2014, 10:21 PM)
4x k is a reasonable and logical price. I'm actually waiting for GSC's launch before I decide which new car to get. It is an interesting car, but if it's 50-60k I might just consider other cars.

Rumours say that the Nissan March's coming here...
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To be honest, for brand new Proton models (not facelift or sedan to hatchback/hatchback to sedan), I'd wait a few batch or at least a year after launch before buying.

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2014, 10:26 PM)
i would say the GSC will be more archivable
proton usually are tuned for power and handling
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pelanjiao you wanna drive at that speed in a normal car sleep.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 18 2014, 08:57 PM)
instrument cluster already leaked....nothing special there.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Please tell me those gauges will lit up when you start the engine, instead of having to switch on the headlamp like the Saga....
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Looks good to me. Though, as usual: Silver painted plastic looks cheap. Either it is real metal, or do something else. Yellow. Black. Anything. Just not silver.
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post Jun 18 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 18 2014, 09:20 PM)
i personally liked the traditional one
instead of the optitron like the one in myvi and alza
no point having it lit up when engine start
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It's useful in situations when it is not dark enough to switch on the headlamps, but not bright enough to see the gauges clearly, ie, dim tunnels.

Meevee's one is a bit silly, because the meter cluster is lit all the time, you have to look at the aircon controls to see if you have actually switched on the headlamps. I've seen many LBLPs cruising along at night with their headlamps off because the drivers didn't know.

Other cars have a headlamp indicator in the meter cluster.

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 18 2014, 11:32 PM

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