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TSJinLeon
post Jun 10 2014, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 9 2014, 09:39 PM)
Bro

Which time zone are u stuck at?
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sorry sorry, long time did not mention about the price of petrol
TSJinLeon
post Jun 10 2014, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jun 9 2014, 09:47 PM)
if want to buy saga.
better search for saga flx with cvt gearbox..
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scare the cvt isnt good as expectation.
btw, i maybe foeget aboit this fl and search another
iskazulka
post Jun 10 2014, 08:34 AM

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don't buy saga fl auto la. you will regret.
#truestory.
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post Jun 10 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 09:26 AM)
scare the cvt isnt good as expectation.
btw, i maybe foeget aboit this fl and search another
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trust me. saga flx cvt is way better than saga fl 4at.
TSJinLeon
post Jun 10 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jun 10 2014, 08:35 AM)
trust me. saga flx cvt is way better than saga fl 4at.
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any expanlation on this?
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post Jun 10 2014, 01:07 PM

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If you like power, and you like speed, and you like to kinda save on petrol, go for the FLX. 1.3 or 1.6 FLX also can tapao the FL for sure. The cvt gearbox on the FLX is much better when paired to the Campro than the 4AT in the FL. Heck, even the manual FLX is so much better than the manual in the FL. Just cruise at 110km/h and you'll know what i mean.
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post Jun 10 2014, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 10 2014, 01:07 PM)
If you like power, and you like speed, and you like to kinda save on petrol, go for the FLX. 1.3 or 1.6 FLX also can tapao the FL for sure. The cvt gearbox on the FLX is much better when paired to the Campro than the 4AT in the FL. Heck, even the manual FLX is so much better than the manual in the FL. Just cruise at 110km/h and you'll know what i mean.
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so meaning flx win fl in all condition right? but how come manual flx is better than manual fl? engine and gearbox are the same
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post Jun 10 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 05:43 PM)
so meaning flx win fl in all condition right? but how come manual flx is better than manual fl? engine and gearbox are the same
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proton redone the suspension system. the FLX's suspension is firmer and overall the car seem to handle better.
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post Jun 10 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 05:43 PM)
so meaning flx win fl in all condition right? but how come manual flx is better than manual fl? engine and gearbox are the same
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I believe the Manual FL uses a Getrag GB, whereas a FLX uses an Aichi-Kikai unit (or the other way round). The biggest difference is ofc the gear ratios between the two manual units. And yes, the FLX triumphs over the FL in all departments, even in the handling (stiffer, but overcame the sagging issue with BLMs at the rear)
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post Jun 11 2014, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 12:32 PM)
any expanlation on this?
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see my FL FC on my fuelly.


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post Jun 11 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 05:43 PM)
so meaning flx win fl in all condition right? but how come manual flx is better than manual fl? engine and gearbox are the same
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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 10 2014, 10:22 PM)
I believe the Manual FL uses a Getrag GB, whereas a FLX uses an Aichi-Kikai unit (or the other way round). The biggest difference is ofc the gear ratios between the two manual units. And yes, the FLX triumphs over the FL in all departments, even in the handling (stiffer, but overcame the sagging issue with BLMs at the rear)
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FL engine is Campro IAFM where as FLX uses the Campro IAFM+. Key difference being the IAFM module and engine tuning, as well as some internal parts.

The gearbox are also different:

FL Auto = Mitsubishi 4AT
FL manual = Aichi Kikai 5MT

FLX Auto = Punch powertrain CVT
FLX manual = Getrag 5MT

FLX also have stiffer springs and thicker front antiroll bar (21mm vs FL's 19mm).

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 11 2014, 01:02 PM
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post Jun 11 2014, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 11 2014, 01:01 PM)
FL engine is Campro IAFM where as FLX uses the Campro IAFM+. Key difference being the IAFM module and engine tuning, as well as some internal parts.

The gearbox are also different:

FL Auto = Mitsubishi 4AT
FL manual = Aichi Kikai 5MT

FLX Auto = Punch powertrain CVT
FLX manual = Getrag 5MT

FLX also have stiffer springs and thicker front antiroll bar (21mm vs FL's 19mm).
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Front antiroll bars are the same between FL and FLX.

Dont belip me? Check the part list
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2014, 01:31 PM)
Front antiroll bars are the same between FL and FLX.

Dont belip me? Check the part list
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kenjilew measured his own BLM and his customer's FLX in his workshop....unless FL has the FLX ARB instead of the BLM's la.

No idea why the parts list has the same part number rclxub.gif

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post Jun 11 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 11 2014, 02:03 PM)
kenjilew measured his own BLM and his customer's FLX in his workshop....unless FL has the FLX ARB instead of the BLM's la.

No idea why the parts list has the same part number  rclxub.gif
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part list fail liao lo rclxub.gif
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2014, 02:06 PM)
part list fail liao lo rclxub.gif
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Send accident FLX to repair....get BLM mia ARB...gg.com rclxms.gif
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 9 2014, 08:41 AM)
1.6L will drink petrol like an alcoholic.

no issues with the FL, just keep an eye out for FC, because of its crummy gearbox.

fit and finish shouldn't be an issue
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FL auto FC?.. wakakaka i'm the lousy in maintain FC...

QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2014, 02:06 PM)
part list fail liao lo rclxub.gif
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if borh same FL with 21mm ARB...fuuhhh
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 05:43 PM)
so meaning flx win fl in all condition right? but how come manual flx is better than manual fl? engine and gearbox are the same
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of course better lo.. FLX is a improve version of FL...
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post Jun 11 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 11 2014, 01:01 PM)
FL engine is Campro IAFM where as FLX uses the Campro IAFM+. Key difference being the IAFM module and engine tuning, as well as some internal parts.

The gearbox are also different:

FL Auto = Mitsubishi 4AT
FL manual = Aichi Kikai 5MT

FLX Auto = Punch powertrain CVT
FLX manual = Getrag 5MT

FLX also have stiffer springs and thicker front antiroll bar (21mm vs FL's 19mm).
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Thanks for pointing out the correct gearbox configurations (which i got mixed up with) haha biggrin.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(bananadriver @ Jun 10 2014, 05:49 PM)
proton redone the suspension system. the FLX's suspension is firmer and overall the car seem to handle better.
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For all i know is they change the bar to 21mm that's for the chasis only... Maybe i shall update more on that.
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post Jun 12 2014, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 10 2014, 10:22 PM)
I believe the Manual FL uses a Getrag GB, whereas a FLX uses an Aichi-Kikai unit (or the other way round). The biggest difference is ofc the gear ratios between the two manual units. And yes, the FLX triumphs over the FL in all departments, even in the handling (stiffer, but overcame the sagging issue with BLMs at the rear)
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Hmm... maybe i shall forget about fl and look more into flx.
New gen of saga is coming soon?

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