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dares
post Jun 9 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 9 2014, 02:12 PM)
Is the SAGA 1.6 FC really that bad?? Any different from the 1.3 Saga?
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1.6 FLX FC quite similiar to 1.3 FLX

1.6 FL probably higher than 1.3 FL.
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post Jun 9 2014, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 9 2014, 07:15 PM)
with current patrol price, rm1.90 ron 95.
Full tank is how much?
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Where to buy RM1.90/liter RON95? drool.gif
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post Jun 11 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 10 2014, 05:43 PM)
so meaning flx win fl in all condition right? but how come manual flx is better than manual fl? engine and gearbox are the same
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QUOTE(Jane's @ Jun 10 2014, 10:22 PM)
I believe the Manual FL uses a Getrag GB, whereas a FLX uses an Aichi-Kikai unit (or the other way round). The biggest difference is ofc the gear ratios between the two manual units. And yes, the FLX triumphs over the FL in all departments, even in the handling (stiffer, but overcame the sagging issue with BLMs at the rear)
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FL engine is Campro IAFM where as FLX uses the Campro IAFM+. Key difference being the IAFM module and engine tuning, as well as some internal parts.

The gearbox are also different:

FL Auto = Mitsubishi 4AT
FL manual = Aichi Kikai 5MT

FLX Auto = Punch powertrain CVT
FLX manual = Getrag 5MT

FLX also have stiffer springs and thicker front antiroll bar (21mm vs FL's 19mm).

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 11 2014, 01:02 PM
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2014, 01:31 PM)
Front antiroll bars are the same between FL and FLX.

Dont belip me? Check the part list
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kenjilew measured his own BLM and his customer's FLX in his workshop....unless FL has the FLX ARB instead of the BLM's la.

No idea why the parts list has the same part number rclxub.gif

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post Jun 11 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 11 2014, 02:06 PM)
part list fail liao lo rclxub.gif
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Send accident FLX to repair....get BLM mia ARB...gg.com rclxms.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 12 2014, 12:57 AM)
Hmm... maybe i shall forget about fl and look more into flx.
New gen of saga is coming soon?
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The upcoming Proton Global Small Car will be a hatchback (no boot), no news if a sedan version is in the pipeline.
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post Jun 12 2014, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(JinLeon @ Jun 12 2014, 01:52 AM)
-With the IAFM, the 1.3L engine used in the Proton Saga now produces 98 bhp (73 kW) @ 6,500rpm.[6] The maximum torque is slightly reduced to 113.2 N·m (83.5 ft·lbf)
-1.3L IAFM+ engine produces 94 bhp (70 kW) @ 5,750 rpm of horsepower and 120 N·m (89 ft·lbf) of torque

It seen so similar. took from wikipedia
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Their output are similiar, the main difference is that the IAFM+ reaches peak torque and horsepower at lower RPMs. More torque at lower RPMs means better acceleration at lower speeds. If you are using CVT that means the engine is always kept at the optimum RPM.

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