Hotai hotai sakalian. Dekat Pekan / Kontan ada kedai vape idok?

I... left my spare batteries at home 200+km away. Now tinggal 1 x 18350 and 1 x 18450 oni. Might dai soon due to not enuff power.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 23 2014, 02:33 PM

Do you seriously want to know? Because this is not a road you can back out of once you've gone through it.

Well, the short answer: YES. Even if brewers SAY they don't mix in Diacetyl, some flavors (anything buttery, milky or rich - except for a few flavors) already has it (or something that turns INTO it) inside and there is no way you can extract it out.

The long answer: Go to The Flavor Apperentice and read up on the flavors there. They list down EVERY flavor that has *wierd* stuff in it for inhalation, so you get a general idea of what is ok (comparatively - we actually don't know HOW ok is ok to begin with) and what is not.

You'll be surprised. For instance, there are some creamy stuff that is actually OK, and some FRUITS that are not.

Also read up the special section that the TFA guy has got on the issue (he's a chemist so he's pretty qualified), it explains in detail about the issue and is frequently updated.

But, in the end, it's really up to you. The amount of exposure you HAVE to get to get the so called "Popcorn Lungs" (acute bronchitis) is apparently VERY HIGH - something like HEAVILY vaping thick extra buttery butterscotch flavored liquid daily for 10-20 years.

Besides, there's no real solid research telling us that vaping Diacetyl WILL for sure give you complications - or that everything else is safe in the long term either.

Just don't forget that anything has gotta be a helluva lot better than the 4k deadly chemicals you have in cigarettes that WILL kill you. FOR SURE.

BTW: I found a small vape stall in the Little India building behind East Coast Mall, thankfully.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 23 2014, 07:11 PM

Buttery and milky more than creamy. Like I said, go read up TFA. A few (very few) creamy flavors are actually fine (Strawberry and Cream, Whipped Cream).

Butterscotch and custard are most prolly NOT fine though, except if Capella finally managed to create it's alternative custard flavouring. But yeah, go read the TFA page on this stuff.

Mod anda selalu berguling jatuh meja? Takut nak tegakkan sebab spring/magnet tak kuat = autofire? Atau mod anda tinggi sangat dan selalu jatuh bila meja gegar?

Dapatkan mod stand hyper best giler lah ni:



Boleh didapati dengan harga amat berpatutan dari Mr DIY berhampiran anda...

This is not really an advert btw lol, I don't even work for Mr DIY pun.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 24 2014, 11:56 AM

Xtar charges better (better charging = better life of batteries), Nitecore is cheaper. Nitecore also does normal rechargeable AA batteries, Xtar does not. Xtar chargers often come with selectable charging currents (from 0.25a to 1a - faster charging of high cap batteries), Nitecore does not.

There's the Xtar VP1/2 also you know, if you want fanciful displays, but they're blardy expensive. On the other hand, Xtar also has the tiny winy MC1/2 USB powered mini chargers (that you can use with laptops, powerbanks and USB car chargers), which I have a few of for travel / emergency purposes.

Other than that it's pretty much a toss up between cost and quality. Personally I think the Nitecore i4 is good enough to start with, especially when it does 4 bays for cheap and doesn't mangle your batteries (too much). Then supplement with an Xtar MC2 or two for travelling (they're cheap too).

The cheapo TrustFires work well enough too... until they blow up - which is rare but CAN happen considering the TFs DON'T stop charging after your batteries are full (which can lead to overloading and boom). But if you take your batteries out when they're full, the cheapo TFs should do just fine.

But considering most local sellers are selling the Trustfires for 50% the price of the MC2s, they're just not worth it really. While the MC2 charges a bit slower (a bit less then 0.5a), they're A LOT safer.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 25 2014, 06:04 PM

Yeah, that's where I'd recommend myself. I get most of my chargers (and other stuff) from that shop. They have a full selection of AW batteries too, even some batteries from other brands, but always reputable ones.

IINM, the VP series only come in 2-bay versions. The WP4 (and 6) is available if you want more bays though.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 25 2014, 08:54 PM

Throat hit is more than just nico people - menthol and some flavors give TH too. Like how Michigan at 12mg feels totally different than the TH of 12mg Myster-E, just to take an example from a similar juice line.

And BTW, most Xtar chargers double as USB powerbanks as well.

As for cap ayam chargers working, well they should be fine 90% of the time. It's that 10 other percent that's the problem. Of course, you might never even get to see that 10%, but...

Also, charging profiles differ. Cheap chargers (<RM15) are cheap for a reason. Don't be surprised if your batteries start NOT holding as much charge as before in less then 6 months, when other people's batteries can last over a year holding full charge. Inefficient charging profiles can really mess up your batteries, although it will take some time for the damage to show.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 26 2014, 01:25 PM

Personally I can only do sour-y fruits myself for the same reason. And yes, most local fruit flavor juices are sickly sweet, but Malaysian tongues are normally like that, right?

Got CloudChimp juices waiting for me back in KL though - can't wait to be be able test those by the end of the week. Supposedly it's cut more for overseas tongues (aka a lot less sweet) so should be ok.

Plus they ACTUALLY do 12mg, woo!

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 26 2014, 06:39 PM

After vaping all this while, I tend to agree unfortunately. I haven't been able to vape anything local lately - especially after that crap from Tabura I bought last time.

Now sticking clear with MrE for my daily cheapie, at least it's dependable and consistent. Plus it's available at normal local juice prices so why bother with substandard locals? Plus I only do 12MG so my local options are limited anyway.

Personally I've done only a few juices:
MrE - Taste is ok and consistent (generally), slightly (but not excessively) sweet. TH slightly rough but acceptable, depending on juice (Myster-E kicks like a mule). Vapour reasonable. Very little gunking. Available locally and cheap.
TV - Taste ok, but can be on the sweet side. TH normal. Vapour normal. Very BAD gunking. Available locally and cheap.
The Plume Room - Taste ok to brilliant (depending on juice). TH on the rough side, heavy lung hit at times (due to extra VG perhaps). Vapour excellent. Gunking normal. Online only.
Mt. Baker - Taste mediocre to good (depending on juice and adjustable during order). TH very smooth. Vapour normal. Gunking normal. 6MG only available locally. Considerably cheap even when ordered online.
MrGV - Haven't had much experience, but tested Heavens Candy and am looking to try putting it into my daily rotation. Slightly premium pricing. Available locally.
DIYBlend - Simple single source flavors. Reasonable TH, taste (overly sweetened as usual) and vapour. Cheap. Gunking slight. Local.
Bancho Homerew - Sour Fuse only one I can recommend to people. OK taste but can be on the sweet side (used to be made to order so you could tailor this). Reasonable TH and vapour. Gunking normal. On the higher end of cheap. Local.
Some Local Rebina Blend (with shameless Rebina branding) - Single source. Not bad across the board, overly sweet as usual. Gunking slight. Cheap. Local.
PandaVapes - Tried CA. Just an extra sweetened, extra minty version of POP with food colouring. Did not finish. Cheapish. Local.
Halo - Well, it's Halo. You either like it or hate it. I'm okay with Midnight Apple but not as a daily vape. Hard TH. Premium pricing. Available locally.
Tabura - Tried PinaColada. AVOID AT ALL COSTS. Local.

Only listing down juice vendors I feel is worth mentioning (for good or bad reasons) - I have tried others but not enough to be able to say anything about them. Plus I don't really like to splurge on juices, hence the lack of any Suicide Bunny on the list - but I might just buy some when I have the extra dough.

Next on my hitlist: CloudChimp. Looks like they have interesting flavours, attractive labeling and description... let's see how the juices fair. 2 more days til I get back to KL and I can test em.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 27 2014, 06:38 PM

In a way yeah. Feels a bit scammy too, especially when you can't come up with your own brand and need to use some other IP. And the fact that everything kinda tastes like everything else.

MonkeyVapes not bad though, except for the fact that they don't really do 12MG. Which is a shame.

Ehhh. When I checked the VBros website say no 12MG? I rage nao.

But yeah, I have to finish the incoming Chimpies first anyhow.

As for rebottling, it boils down to (again) trust. I've yet to get badly scammed by rebottled juices - except that one time from Downtown KL during my really early years that I got myself some TV that was runny like water, and tasted as bad.

So it IS possible, but thankfully not THAT widespread nowadays as it's cheaper to just scam people with your *own* juices anyway lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 27 2014, 07:51 PM

Provaris don't have 30W output ler. Not that I've ever understood that need for constantly regulated high power TBH lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 27 2014, 07:59 PM

TBH, you'll be surprised. The stupid little KR808D cig-a-like + cartos can actually be a decent vape...

... for a few months before the battery stops holding a decent charge, that is lol.

Low mah batteries die fast. Unfortunately they're not RM1 a pop... if not disposables might really take off.

And TV = damn quick gunking for me so no thanks. I'll stick with MrE for my cheapies. And woah, interesting prices - I take it that LV's TV stuff is NOT rebottled then?

And has anyone here actually tried drinking from a "quick straw" before BTW? You know, the ones that turn plain milk into chocolate or strawberry milk, gooding woo.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 28 2014, 04:25 AM

Just to confirm, cartos are simply pre-built atomisers with filler that may or may not have been prefilled with liquid. And even the prefilled ones usually can be refilled with loose liquid too you know - so it's not really 2 seperate things.

Myself I have empty unfilled cartos around all the time, in various secret hiding places in my car, bag, room... just in case my RBAs or tanks fail and I need a vape stat.

However, sometimes, carrying liquid alone is more inconspicuous than carrying just cartos. Especially if it's clear liquid in an unmarked bottle. Just stick medicinal label on it (nose drop - just in case they ask you to prove. Nico into nose is fine. Eye drop might turn you... blind) and you're done.

It's when you carry mods together with you into the cabin that the headaches start - though personally I haven't had much troubles myself while travelling around, but I tend to use my Vmod mini for travelling anyway.

That said, this is prolly where my old KR808Ds would shine. It + Innokin Clear10 clearos / smok cartos + pen cap = I can carry 4 in a shirt pocket, dump the whole lot into the xray machine tray and nobody bats an eyelid.

Anybody asks, it's a pen and I show them the pen cap.

Ultimate travel configuration. But unfortunately it's only "decent" vape wise and the batteries die REALLY quick.

TBH, I haven't tested it against our southern neighbours yet though.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 28 2014, 06:17 PM

I've had the "peach-something" one. It was pretty nice, if you like sweet, sour, grassy tobacco.

But TBH it was more or less of the better tobac juices I've had. Ranks up there with Halo, maybe slightly better (tobac taste wise) as it had a cleaner aftertaste.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 28 2014, 06:18 PM

Dwap usually has some in stock, both in PJ and Shah Alam.

Finally finished whatever's left in my tank, now time for some Chimpies. And woah, this is good stuff. On the Black Apple now, just pure clean flavour that wicks like a wonder in my Taipoo.

It's a simple 2-note mix, but the taste is very good. Natural, only minimally sweetened. I need a few more days before I can really decide whether it's a keeper or not, but for now, I'm liking this a LOT.

Next to test, the Dragon!

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 30 2014, 10:44 PM

Like 18350, if it's the higher end like 0.8-0.6 it should be fine. It all depends of the battery's C rating rating and amp limits - and your luck. Unfortunately not all batteries are created equal, right?

14500 even worse lol. AW 14500 can barely do 0.8 without dangerously touching the amp limit . At least the Efests can do 0.8 safely if the amp limit ratings are anything to be believed - though I prefer to stay around 1 with 14500s.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 30 2014, 11:14 PM

Should be safe on 18490 - quite close to the limit though.

And overstressing batteries is actually the least of your problems. Running really low subohm builds actually changes the way your liquid is vaporized - it might give off more chemicals that wasn't there before above 0.5 ohms.

Just so you know. 0.3 is pretty low.