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Piap
post Sep 1 2014, 10:41 PM

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Walao, so expensive for one ah-6. North korea bought around 60 civilian md500 and converto military spec.
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waja2000
post Sep 1 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Piap @ Sep 1 2014, 10:41 PM)
Walao, so expensive for one ah-6. North korea bought around 60 civilian md500 and converto military spec.
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md500 limited capability,
anyway AH-6i 10 mil is consider value price for that size and capability.
u should know AH-1z price us 30 mil+, Tiger usd 4x mil each, Apache cost 60 million+ each.
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:05 PM

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Gathering with 10 of my batch here in KK.....since last commissioned in 2002. Each & every of us with different specialization......CO, XO, pilot, diver, submariner, paskal......
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 1 2014, 11:01 PM)
Still think we should get ah1z, more suitable size for bigger area to cover plus more effective against 1000 speedboat sulu navy biggrin.gif
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I more prefer Tiger, more longer patrol range , 800km with weapon, and we already send pilot to training on Tiger heli (less cost and speed up operation). plus our relation with Airbus-Helicopter (eurocopter) .

Ah-1Z short range with weapon. 250km+- only.
also not sure on any us restricted on Ah-1z if face asean country Apache

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post Sep 1 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 1 2014, 11:05 PM)
Gathering with 10 of my batch here in KK.....since last commissioned in 2002. Each & every of us with different specialization......CO, XO, pilot, diver, submariner, paskal......
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wish future get more sub, Scorpene 2000 AIP
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 1 2014, 11:20 PM)
wish future get more sub,  Scorpene 2000 AIP
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With current policy....I dont think so. I would like to see gowind in service with ASW heli. Hopefully all 6 will be placed at KK as all gowind are for ASW. south china sea is a good sub operational theatre.
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 1 2014, 10:15 PM)
near to 10 million Each AH-6i  smile.gif

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It would be nice for scouts, heli escort and small scale mission.
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:28 PM

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Btw......itik angsa is getting closer.....
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 1 2014, 11:26 PM)
With current policy....I dont think so. I would like to see gowind in service with ASW heli. Hopefully all 6 will be placed at KK as all gowind are for ASW. south china sea is a good sub operational theatre.
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Yup 2nd batch not happening anytime soon.
asw heli very likely to happen.
I'm more hopeful if we are able to get 20-30units fac and heavily armed kedah class first before we get any sub.
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post Sep 1 2014, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 1 2014, 11:22 PM)
what about mangusta/atak, i think the range in the middle right
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T129 Atak look ok, TAL also offer to our army, Price also look value, now only over version A basic version (limited weapon), around usd 23 mil+- (turkey local price, not sure how support cost), ,Version B is multirole version with support more weapon/mission and system. price estimated around usd 35 mil+- (available 1~2 year more)

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post Sep 1 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 1 2014, 11:31 PM)
Yup 2nd batch not happening anytime soon.
asw heli very likely to happen.
I'm more hopeful if we are able to get 20-30units fac and heavily armed kedah class first before we get any sub.
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From my batch (super lynx pilot) in front of me now.......navy is looking at seahawk.

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post Sep 1 2014, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 1 2014, 11:36 PM)
From my batch (super lynx pilot) in front of me now.......navy is looking at seahawk.
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for Navy (Gowind ship) should be using more suitable using NH90 or AW159, it used Thales Frash Dipping sonar system, more suitable/easy link to Gowind Combat system (Asw system, integrated together Thales Captas TAS sonar), easy data link and share info. unless Heli select in Gowind just CSAR version than ok using seahawk, seahawk so far only optional using us variant of Dipping sonar.

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post Sep 1 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 1 2014, 11:49 PM)
for Navy (Gowind ship) should be sing more suitable using NH90 or AW159, it used Thales Frash Dipping sonar system, more suitable link to Gowind Combat system (Asw system, integrated together Thales Captas TAS sonar), easy data link and share info. unless Heli select in Gowind just CSAR version (with basic ASW feature). than ok using seahawk, seahawk so far only using us variant of Dipping sonar.
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Imho....I like Nh90 but its too expensive, advantage is its bigger with more endurance & bigger low freq dipper.

2nd is wildcat....

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post Sep 2 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 1 2014, 11:57 PM)
Imho....I like Nh90 but its too expensive, advantage is its bigger with more endurance & bigger low freq dipper.

2nd is wildcat....
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Expensive but worth, Nh90 with Dipping sonar still have space for CSAR capability, Seahawk if include dipping sonar than cabin no more space can't used other function, also Dipping sonar need work stand-alon system. pay some integration cost for using thales flash dipping system in seahawk?

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post Sep 2 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 2 2014, 12:03 AM)
Expensive but worth, Nh90 with Dipping sonar still have space for CSAR capability, Seahawk if include dipping sonar than cabin no more space can't used other function,  also Dipping sonar need work stand-alon system. pay some integration cost for using thales flash dipping system in seahawk?
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Yup.....its in my wishlist as well.

1st time I am seeing Sepangar base with full of warships.
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post Sep 2 2014, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 2 2014, 12:04 AM)
Yup.....its in my wishlist as well.

1st time I am seeing Sepangar base with full of warships.
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ask any news on LPD/FAC ship .....

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post Sep 2 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 1 2014, 11:36 PM)
From my batch (super lynx pilot) in front of me now.......navy is looking at seahawk.
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I just afraid too many different platform, logistic, training, maintenance nightmare
At least get the wildcat.. not that different from current lynx
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post Sep 2 2014, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 2 2014, 12:06 AM)
ask any news on LPD/FAC ship .....
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No news.....only gowind project team is already established

What type of anti radiation missile SU35 is using now

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post Sep 2 2014, 12:20 AM

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Paging for junchuan to edit RMN wiki page, somehow we have klub-k??

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post Sep 2 2014, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 2 2014, 12:10 AM)
No news.....only gowind project team is already established

What type of anti radiation missile SU35 is using now
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should be Kh-31P

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