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Military Thread V12, 31/8 Merdeka; 16/9 Malaysia Day
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Jun 5 2014, 06:57 PM
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![]() ![]() Next batch of Leopard 2A4 for TNI-AD being tested in Germany |
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Jun 5 2014, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 5 2014, 08:42 PM) Those are photos of Indonesian Army Leopard 2 tank crews training in Germany according to the source of the photos. Most probably training in preparation for the 2nd batch of delivery. Curiously, the photos show Leopard 2A4, not the 2RI. By logic, 2A4 would be shipped first, because they are easier and faster to retrofitAs reported by Janes in it's article that around 21 unit Leopard 2RI (MBT Revolution) are slated for delivery for 11 September 2014. |
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Jun 6 2014, 04:59 PM
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No photos on Raptor yet?
I get these recently....is this in Cope Taufan 2014? ![]() ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by Frozen_Sun: Jun 6 2014, 05:01 PM |
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Jun 9 2014, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Jun 9 2014, 11:15 AM) atreyuangel aku dapat rasa perisikan USA sudah dapat hidu sesuatu dari krisis di Thailand.. aku ingatkan kawan aku main-main je bila dia cakap lepas raja thailand sekarang meninggal dunia, negara thailand mungkin akan berpecah kepada 3 bahagian sebab ada masalah amat besar akan pewaris tahta.. dikatakan pewaris tahta sah raja thailand sekarang, yang institusi diraja thailand sembunyikan semua data peribadi dia kepada orang ramai, dia dikatakan hendak minta taraf warganegara Malaysia dan hanya mahu jadi orang kebanyakan, mahu jadi orang biasa, tak mahu pegang tahta kerajaan thailand sebab fahaman agama dan kepercayaan yang amat berbeza.. pewaris sah tahta kerajaan thailand sekarang dikatakan sedang berada di antara selatan thailand dan utara semenanjung malaysia, tiada siapa tahu identiti sebenar dia. So, there's a possibility Narathiwat, Yala and Pattani would secede to Malaysia if disintegration occurs?aku cadangkan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) kukuhkan sempadan Malaysia-Thailand macam-macam boleh jadi lepas amerika pergi post berita camni, kawan aku dah cakap benda ni berbulan-bulan sebelum washingtonpost benda ni.. camne macam lebih kurang la pula http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/behind...76ed_story.html |
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Jun 10 2014, 05:57 PM
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Looks like failure on front landing gear
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Jun 10 2014, 11:39 PM
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There's only one reason........too many aircrafts in the world today.
No man-made object is perfect or people don't always have good intention. It means, statistically, accidents or incidents will happen. |
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Jun 11 2014, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 10 2014, 11:42 PM) indon memang dont like us, some of the hardcore still believe we should be part of them During the new order era, Indonesians actually have their aggressive mentality cured. But with Sipadan/Ligitan, Ambalat and recent Tanjung Datu incident, the "ganyang" term is revived. u should day they sell themselves more to US, they have more US equipments compared to us the one major asset of US in our inventory is the F18 The term was never mentioned under Suharto, because it was invented in Old Order era. Indonesia felt that Malaysians betrayed them at their weakest time after the 1998 crisis and didn't act like "brother", when they are still recovering from economic and social turmoils. Indonesians now have aspiration to become regional superpower, even outgunning Australia; although will never be as strong as China and India. |
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Jun 11 2014, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Jun 11 2014, 10:21 AM) sipadan /ligitan is not like malaysia stole from indo. malaysia developed those islands and suddently indo claimed theirs. even ICJ accept it those island part of malaysia. we dont used any military action to get those island. it is your media and politician spin the story to make malaysia backstab the relationship. i hope we (malaysia-indonesia) can come out with something good so we can stop this nonsense. i really shocked when im trying google about f22 raptor in malaysia .. 1 the result came from kaskus(indo forum). i been lurking around in kaskus since then and found out that indo really hate malaysia. and the major reason indo hate malaysia is bcoz we have good relationship with british. apa ketahian ni? With Sipadan and Ligitan, Indonesians reluctantly accepted it. There's no protest whatsoever. But the anger flared up with Ambalat and subsequent incidents. Indonesians think why didn't Malaysia do this during the New Order era. TVRI often used the word "serumpun" in New Order era and Indonesians view on Malaysia was good. Now, that word is seen with cynicism by many Indonesians, as a word without meaning. Malaysia will try to provoke when Indonesia during its weakest times, a country with hidden ill intention towards Indonesia. Relationship with British isn't really the reason. Indonesia has very close relationship with British too. Even SBY received knighthood, Order of Bath recently. ![]() |
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Jun 11 2014, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 11 2014, 04:35 PM) 1.5 percent GDP defense budget...that will be at least $20 billion in 2019 |
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Jun 13 2014, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 12 2014, 08:24 PM) Indonesian Air Force to deploy fighter planes to disputed area As I always say.....it all started with Sipadan/Ligitan, which is followed by numerous incidents. Indonesians feel offended or perhaps "betrayed" by Malaysians who take advantage of Indonesia during its weaker times.Deputy chief of staff of the TNI-AU, Air Vice Marshall Sudipo Handoyo has said on 9/6/2014 that work has begun to upgrade an old Dutch airfield at Paloh,west Kalimantan and to permanently establish an Indonesian presence there. Land around the airfield will also be expanded into an military outpost and expects around 500 personnel from the Army and Navy will be stationed there to respond to any "Malaysian provocations". Recently there has been confrontations between the Indonesian and Malaysian navies at the waters off Tanjung Datu,at the border of the Malaysian state of Sarawak and the Indonesian province of Kalimantan. ![]() TNI-AU Deputy chief-of-staff Air Vice Marshal Sudipo Handoyo News Link: TNI-AU to deploy fighter planes to disputed area Tanjung Datu incident shouldn't happen if Malaysia communicated with Indonesia before constructing the beacon tower. |
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Jun 13 2014, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 13 2014, 02:48 PM) Imo, we should play these issue properly. How come? Jokowi and Prabowo has no control on armed forces at all. They are still candidates....Somehow I felt these have something to do with their presidential election on july. Subainto might using these to regain city votes. SBY and his party, Partai Demokrat, is outside of the presidential race, after declaring neutrality and doesn't support any candidate. SBY gains nothing from this. |
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Jun 13 2014, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jun 13 2014, 02:30 PM) No, there's a strong reason to establish presence in Tanjung Datu. Construction of tower in Tanjung Datu is caused by lack of TNI presence there. This is not an attempt to escalate conflict, but to prevent further incident and "maintain peace". |
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Jun 13 2014, 03:55 PM
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Jun 13 2014, 03:56 PM
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Jun 14 2014, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jun 13 2014, 04:54 PM) Remember this?http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/01/26/u...EA0P06X20140126 |
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Jun 19 2014, 01:23 AM
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Always place infantry a few hundred yards in front of armored vehicle, or perhaps farther when dealing with ATGMs
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Jun 19 2014, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 19 2014, 02:42 PM) Ramai manpower pun tak tentu makin bagus ke tidak. Banyak negara ASEAN manpower ramai,tapi askar kerahan (Conscript) macam Thailand, Vietnam & Singapore. Malaysia fully professional army,tu yang askar sikit tapi belanja banyak,sebab service time panjang, training lebih & gaji lagi tinggi. Askar kerahan dah la kena bayar elaun aje,train basic tactics & pastu service time 12-18 bulan aje. TNI is also an all-volunteer, career-based armed forces, Indonesia doesn't have any reserve forces or clear conscription program like Singapore. There's 100 full-time infantry battalions in TNI-AD alone, not counting special forces, Navy's marine and air force's pasukan khas battalionsBanyak pros & cons antara sistem askar professional dengan askar kerahan ni. |
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Jun 19 2014, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 19 2014, 04:42 PM) Not surprising in regards of Indonesia's size and the nature of its scattered archipelago. Furthermore unlike Malaysia which is historically relatively peaceful (except during emergency period) Indonesia has in the past and is still plagued by separatist movements like in Acheh, Maluku and Irian Jaya. So a large armed forces are deployed to keep the (many) separatist movements of the far provinces under control. Wow.....I'm actually discussing about the structure of armed forces, volunteer vs. conscription. Not form of government and secession. Unlike Malaysia which has a Federation-style government where each of the constituent states has its own government and each state has a great deal of freedom in how each state governs itself. Putrajaya actually only has power over federal matters,for example national defense & international relations and in theory,don't have the right to say how each state should be ruled,only how much to allocate the national budget to each state. (Putrajaya bagi duit,suka hati la setiap negeri nak buat apa) Indonesia is a Unitary-style government where all government power is concentrated in Jakarta. Everything each province does in terms of development and upkeep has to follow Jakarta's say so. Power is delegated to each province only as much as Jakarta sees fit. But obviously sometimes Jakarta-appointed governors don't follow local customs and culture. That's why for provincial people (Achenese, Papuan) with distinct cultural differences from Javanese people in Jakarta actually don't like being ruled by Indonesia and try to secede. Same with Thailand where,for example,Malay ethnic Muslim peoples of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat are forced to learn speak Siamese language in everyday matters. One of the reasons why the three southern Thai provinces want more autonomy powers within Thailand. The people are ethnic Malays and have little in common with the Siamese people who run the government in Bangkok, but is forced to live by Siamese and Buddhist values. Ditto the Philippines, Muslim Moro peoples have been forced to live by Catholic christian values from Tagalog peoples who make up the central government in Manila. No wonder separatism is alive and well in those countries. Tiba2 citer national politics pulak It isn't actually relevant, because Indonesia could conscript a huge number of half-trained troops to fight insurgency. But instead it chooses an all-volunteer armed forces. Besides things are much more peaceful in Indonesia right now and perhaps more than Malaysia. Just dealing with a handful of OPM irregulars in PNG border, nothing more. Seceding from Indonesia isn't always a good idea, Timor Leste could now afford only to allocate $1.5 billion each year of annual state budget from oil/gas sources that will be depleted in 10 years. Meanwhile, their brethren in West Timor could enjoy an annual provincial budget of $2 billion from central government budget and other sustainable sources. |
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Jun 23 2014, 10:54 AM
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Presidential candidates debate last night, 22 June 2014, with focus on defense and international relation
Prabowo: Purchase of more high-tech armament, including 5th gen fighter if possible Support for MBT and other heavy ground armaments Larger TNI-AD with 500 full-time infantry battalions, one in each kabupaten Formation of national reserve forces Continuance of SBY's "one thousands friends, zero enemy" policy Takeover of FIR on Riau/Natuna islands from Singapore Jokowi: Defense budget of more than $20 billion/year in 4-5 years with economic growth 7+ percent Dominant maritime force in ASEAN Drones for regular surveillance on border and sea Oppose MBTs and support for lighter 30-ton medium tanks Prioritize on negotiation to handle conflicts with other nations |
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Jun 27 2014, 08:23 AM
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Tiger for TNI-AD Will be Introduced in October
![]() Paris. Upacara kebesaran HUT ke-69 TNI akan menjadi ajang pertama bagi 'macan' baru TNI memperkenalkan diri kepada warga Indonesia. Macan itu sedang dalam tahap akhir persiapkan fisik di benua Eropa. Macan itu adalah helikopter serang Eurocopter Tiger H61. Mereka akan melengkapi helikopter serbu MI 35 dan Apache memperkuat TNI AD. Selain itu ada tiga kapal fregat multifungsi untuk TNI AL yang sedang dibangun di Manchester, Inggris. "Seluruh alutsista yang baru ini akan ikut dalam peringatan Hari TNI 5 Oktober," kata Wamenhan Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin di Paris, Jumat (26/6/2014). Wamenhan berkunjung ke Paris bersama rombongan Komite Kebijakan Industri Pertahanan. Selain itu mereka ke Belanda juga untuk memastikan perkembangan seluruh alutsista yang dipesan Indonesia untuk jajaran TNI. "Saat ini seluruh pesanan itu sudah dalam tahap akhir dan akan segera dikirim secara bertahap ke Indonesia," sambung matan Pangdam Jaya ini. Sjafrie merasa puas karena selain pembelian alutsista ada banyak tawaran bagi pengembangan kerja sama industri pertahanan. Terutama untuk Pindad yang terbuka peluang bagi pengembangan panser Anoa serta kendaraan tempur dan amunisi lainnya. Bersama Dirut Pindad Sudirman Said, Wamenhan bertemu juga Presiden Volvo Group, Stefano Chmielewski untuk membicarakan pasokan mesin Renault sebagai sumber tenaga Panser Anoa. "Pindad sudah memproduksi 250 unit panser kebutuhan TNI AD. Sekarang Pindad mempunyai kesempatan untuk memasok 250 unit lainnya dan Renault bersepakat untuk memasok kebutuhan mesinnya," kata Sjafrie http://news.metrotvnews.com/read/2014/06/2...am-hut-tni-2014 This post has been edited by Frozen_Sun: Jun 27 2014, 08:28 AM |
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