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Moogle Stiltzkin
post Oct 30 2025, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(180sx @ Oct 28 2025, 11:44 PM)
How about LG 45gx950a? Went up for pre-order last month.
Is this model using latest woled panel?
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i'm not sure. i only know the 1440p panel by LG, Gigabyte and upcoming asus that is 100% using the gen4 oled panels with x2 times burn in resistance compared to the previous gen 3. This applies to both qd oled and woled because they both using the EL3.0 over the older EL 2.0 materials on the panel for that burn in resistance.

The main difference between the qd oled and woled gen4 however is that woled improved their brightness, improved the color to catch up to qd oled (so this is no longer their weak point against qd oled where before it was because it was less colorful), they improved the text clarity (was it fully resolved? i don't know. but according to the reviewer for LG monitor they said it still had fringing but it was much improved than before, so i am guessing he meant it's fine)


Only reason i didn't get a gen4 was there was no availability at the time and i couldn't wait. But now in the market the gen4 is available and for rougly the same price i had paid for the gen3. The only reason not to get a gen4 is if it's matte and you have your doubts about that. Everything else seems fine though. And if you can wait a few months, sometime in Q4 2025 asus is releasing a true glossy black 1440p gen4 woled.

Not sure about the 4k resolution monitor, have to dyor sweat.gif

tftcentral might have some info on that.

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post Nov 11 2025, 09:47 AM

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RM2,412.90 (using voucher) on 11.11 sale shopee

GIGABYTE MO27Q2A 27' OLED GAMING MONITOR ( 27" OLED QHD / 0.03MS / 280HZ / AMD FREESYNC / HD MI + DP )



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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 30 2025, 06:05 AM)


i'm not sure. i only know the 1440p panel by LG, Gigabyte and upcoming asus that is 100% using the gen4 oled panels with x2 times burn in resistance compared to the previous gen 3. This applies to both qd oled and woled because they both using the EL3.0 over the older EL 2.0 materials on the panel for that burn in resistance.

The main difference between the qd oled and woled gen4 however is that woled improved their brightness, improved the color to catch up to qd oled (so this is no longer their weak point against qd oled where before it was because it was less colorful), they improved the text clarity (was it fully resolved? i don't know. but according to the reviewer for LG monitor they said it still had fringing but it was much improved than before, so i am guessing he meant it's fine)
Only reason i didn't get a gen4 was there was no availability at the time and i couldn't wait. But now in the market the gen4 is available and for rougly the same price i had paid for the gen3. The only reason not to get a gen4 is if it's matte and you have your doubts about that. Everything else seems fine though. And if you can wait a few months, sometime in Q4 2025 asus is releasing a true glossy black 1440p gen4 woled.

Not sure about the 4k resolution monitor, have to dyor  sweat.gif

tftcentral might have some info on that.
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I just bought XG32UCWMG, is it Gen4? and is it EL3.0?
I don't know much about those technical thingy.
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post Nov 12 2025, 02:52 PM

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https://wccftech.com/samsung-announces-hdr10-advanced/

new hdr10 advanced

not sure if netflix has this yet, or what content will have this new hdr format hmm.gif
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post Nov 12 2025, 02:56 PM

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https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/4th-gen-p...27q28g-showcase

QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Nov 11 2025, 10:37 PM)
I just bought XG32UCWMG, is it Gen4? and is it EL3.0?
I don't know much about those technical thingy.
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i asked AI it said this

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The ASUS ROG Strix XG32UCWMG does not feature a 4th-generation OLED panel or EL 3.0 technology. It uses a 3rd-generation WOLED panel.

Instead, the XG32UCWMG has the following key features:

    A TrueBlack Glossy coating that reduces glare compared to previous generations while preserving deep blacks.
    An MLA+ (Micro Lens Array Plus) layer for increased brightness.

Clarification on panel generations The technology you are referring to, often called "Gen 4" OLED with EL 3.0, is found in newer LG Display WOLED panels that improve brightness and efficiency. The XG32UCWMG uses a slightly older generation with a different anti-reflective coating.

If you are specifically looking for a monitor with the latest OLED tech, you will need to confirm the panel generation for each specific model.



in short, no. it's considered gen3.

Keep in mind this gen3 vs gen 4 oled panel is a term by tftcentral. What it means is the oled tech developments which is sufficiently different to be considered a next gen tech development.


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TFTCentral uses the terms "Gen 3" and "Gen 4" to distinguish between different generations of OLED display panels from the two major manufacturers, Samsung Display (QD-OLED) and LG Display (WOLED).

The key improvements differ depending on the manufacturer and generation.

Samsung Display (QD-OLED)

For its Quantum Dot OLED (QD-OLED) technology, Samsung's advancements focus on improving brightness, efficiency, and refresh rates.

Gen 3 (2024 panels)

    Brightness: Increased HDR peak brightness to 1,000 nits for monitors, with improved full-screen brightness over Gen 2.

    Efficiency: Features the Quantum Enhancer algorithm and IntelliSense AI v2.0 for real-time pixel optimization, leading to better durability and efficiency.

    Pixel Density: An ultra-precise inkjet process enabled higher pixel density, allowing for the creation of 4K resolution QD-OLED monitor panels.

    Refresh Rate: Introduced 27-inch 1440p panels with a 360Hz refresh rate, a new high for the time.

    Anti-Glare: Maintained the same semi-glossy screen coating as previous generations, which some found susceptible to "raised blacks" in bright rooms


Gen 4 (2025 panels)

    Brighter and More Vibrant: Utilizes a new, hyper-efficient "EL 3.0" material, resulting in brighter and more vibrant displays.

    HDR Performance: Improves HDR brightness significantly, with demonstrations showing peak luminance of up to 4,000 nits in small highlights and 440 nits on full-screen white.

    Higher Refresh Rates: Reached 500Hz on some monitor panels.

    Energy Efficiency: The new EL material also allows for improved energy efficiency.

    Higher Pixel Density: Continues to push pixel density higher, with a 27-inch 5K panel shown at Computex 2025.



LG Display (WOLED)

LG's White OLED (WOLED) technology in its latest generation makes a significant change to the panel structure for better brightness and efficiency.

Gen 3 (2024 panels)

    Micro Lens Array (MLA): Many Gen 3 panels featured a Micro Lens Array (MLA) to maximize brightness and efficiency by redirecting emitted light.

    Three-Stack Structure: The light-emitting layers consisted of three stacks.

    Brightness: Achieved a peak brightness of up to 3,000 nits, though monitors typically had a lower peak brightness.

    Pixel Structure: Used a subpixel layout that could result in some text clarity issues for monitors.



Gen 4 (2025 panels)

    Primary RGB Tandem Structure: Moves to a new "four-stack" panel design, which separates the red and green emitting layers from the blue. This is a fundamental change from the previous three-stack structure.

    Higher Brightness: The new structure boosts brightness significantly, with LG Display promoting 4,000 nits peak brightness for TVs and increased HDR brightness for monitors (1,500 nits) and SDR brightness (up to 335 nits).

    Improved Efficiency: The new tandem structure is more energy-efficient and has a longer lifespan.

    Better Color Volume: The four-layer design improves color purity and separation, resulting in a larger color gamut and more vivid colors.

    Enhanced Black Depth: The removal of the MLA layer and improved anti-reflection coating on TV panels lead to better black performance in bright rooms.

    Improved Text Clarity: Features an updated subpixel layout that addresses text clarity issues found in previous monitor panels.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/qd-oled-g...graphic-and-faq


https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-strix-xg32ucwmg

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EL 3.0

refers to the third generation of emissive layer technology used in modern OLED displays, particularly in Quantum Dot OLED (QD-OLED) and White OLED (WOLED) panels. This advancement significantly improves brightness, energy efficiency, and overall picture quality over previous generations.

Key features of QD-OLED EL 3.0

The third-generation emissive layer technology for QD-OLED, developed by Samsung Display, has the following characteristics:

    Hyper-efficient material: A new material is used to convert more electrons into photons, resulting in a brighter display without increasing power consumption.

    Improved light efficiency: This technology increases the overall light output and can boost light efficiency by up to 30% compared to EL Gen 2.

    Higher brightness: With EL 3.0, QD-OLED panels can achieve higher peak brightness levels, making them more vibrant and able to support higher pixel-per-inch (PPI) counts without compromising HDR performance.

    Enhanced durability: The new material improves the efficiency and longevity of the panel, helping to reduce the risk of burn-in.

    5-layer tandem structure: Panels featuring EL Gen 3 are sometimes described as having a 5-layer tandem OLED panel structure, contributing to their improved efficiency.


Key features of WOLED META 3.0

LG Display's equivalent, often called META 3.0 for its WOLED panels, also features third-generation technology and offers distinct enhancements:

    4-layer RGB tandem stack: META 3.0 uses a stacked structure with two layers of blue emitters and separate layers for red and green emitters. This arrangement increases color purity and overall brightness.
    Higher brightness and efficiency: Similar to QD-OLED EL 3.0, this technology boosts peak brightness levels by 33% and improves energy efficiency by 20% over the previous generation.
    Increased color brightness: The separate RGB layers result in a 40% increase in color brightness.
    Ultra anti-reflection technology: META 3.0 includes a specialized film that blocks internal and external light reflections, ensuring perfect black levels even in brightly lit rooms.

How EL 3.0 differs from previous generations

EL 3.0 and META 3.0 improve on older emissive layer technologies by focusing on raw material composition and panel structure. For example, Samsung's Gen 4 QD-OLED uses a 5-layer blue OLED structure, whereas the Gen 3 panels used a 3-layer blue structure. This evolution of materials and layered design is what drives the improved efficiency, brightness, and color performance found in the latest OLED screens.




the biggest improvements for a gen4 vs gen3 WOLED panel is the fact

1. colors accuracy was improved vastly to catch up with qd oled. It use to be that woled has less vibrant colors vs qd oled. but not any longer with gen4 woled. So it's no longer their weakness when choosing between the 2.

2. brightness. It got increased. oleds big weakness is the low brightness. Always not bright enough. gen 4 increased brightness.

3. this panel they improved the text clarity. But according to display guy, it still suffers from fringing, but as bad as the previous gen. just know it still has that issue, but just not as bad as before.

4. comes with EL3 or its equivalent, which is materials that improved it's life and burn in resistance by 2x compared to the previous gen. the manufacturers claimed they are confident the burn in issue is less of a problem with this upgrade. yet i dont see them increasing the warranty period to match those claims.


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gen4 oled is like these

Gigabyte mo27q28g



https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/gigabyte-mo27q28g


Asus ROG Strix XG27AQWMG


main difference between the 2, the gigabyte is matte, but the asus is using a true black gossy. so asus is better in that sense.

Gigabyte is releasing a glossy version gen4 woled at some point, but i dont know the model number.

these 2 monitors are 1440p resolution and 27'' So for other resolution and sizes, that i don't know. you have to dyor smile.gif



some 2025 releases for asus
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/asus-unve...t-gamescom-2025

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 12 2025, 02:56 PM)
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/4th-gen-p...27q28g-showcase
i asked AI it said this
in short, no. it's considered gen3.

Keep in mind this gen3 vs gen 4 oled panel is a term by tftcentral. What it means is the oled tech developments which is sufficiently different to be considered a next gen tech development.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/qd-oled-g...graphic-and-faq
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-strix-xg32ucwmg
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I see.. to me, my XG32UCWMG is very good, decent brightness, color is good, black is inky deep, and no ips glow like my previous U3223QE .

and i am selling ( DELL Ultrasharp U3223QE ) away for RM2k if anyone is interested.

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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Nov 12 2025, 08:47 PM)
I see.. to me, my XG32UCWMG is very good, decent brightness, color is good, black is inky deep, and no ips glow like my previous U3223QE .

and i am selling it away for RM2k if anyone is interested.
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u can open an account on carrousell and sell it there.

what are u selling? XG32UCWMG?

if u already bought i dont think u need to. gen3 is still ok for burn in as long as u have all the burn in protections enabled, and u take proper care of it like setting a sleep every 5 minutes of inactivity. and u turn off (not sleep) the monitor at the end of the day.

my first oled is gen 3 also. I didn't bother wait for gen4, since i urgently needed monitor and no availability at the time for the gen4. And even then, the initial gen 4 were in matte, not semi glossy or glossy. I didn't want my first oled to be matte. I've tried a matte but for ips and that coating is horrid.
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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Nov 11 2025, 10:37 PM)
I just bought XG32UCWMG, is it Gen4? and is it EL3.0?
I don't know much about those technical thingy.
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this was just posted recently

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/373080/asus-tan...aming-monitors/


ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27AQWMG



27''

1440p

gen4 woled

glossy (or as asus calls it, trublack glossy for their marketing)

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ASUS is announcing the availability of its latest Swift OLED PG27AQWP-W and Strix OLED XG27AQWMG gaming monitors in Malaysia. The two displays are expected to be available on store shelves by the end of the month.



this is the asus monitor for people wanting the glossy for the gen4 woled panel. i dont know what gigabyte model will have the glossy. but afaik the asus will be the first with the glossy for gen4.

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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Nov 12 2025, 08:47 PM)
I see.. to me, my XG32UCWMG is very good, decent brightness, color is good, black is inky deep, and no ips glow like my previous U3223QE .

and i am selling it away for RM2k if anyone is interested.
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why sell? 2k is self lowball for such a good glossy WOLED
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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Nov 15 2025, 12:01 AM)
why sell? 2k is self lowball for such a good glossy WOLED
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Lol, no, I was referring to my U3223QE, selling it for 2k... I am keeping the XG32UCWMG, gotten it at 6 Nov 2025.
Watching movies that has dark scenes like submarine ( Hunter killer, The hunt for red October ) is just so awesome now.



 

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