i dont know whether do u all guys and girls realize or not. our goverment is planning to increase or status of lifestyle. when it say this, mean our lifestyle is getting better. got car to drive and others. but didnt that u all realize that low income ppl and freshie is very burdened by this?? why i say like this because our income or salary is very low. can say when u start ur working lifestyle u jsut can get paid rm800-1500. do u think it is enough for u all? yes gorverment is making our lifestyle is better and asking those banking sector to give out loan easily for car loan. but they didnt realize, once u get the loan it will burdened u. i mean for those low income people lar, cause the need to spend about half of their salary to pay the loan for 7-9 years. this is really not a smart way for goverment plan because they are worsening their citizen in the future when they get old when they no money left and health begin worsening because of old age. do u think u want to whole life without any penny left in bank and whole life liabilities n loan?? if yes, i dont think we can enjoying travelling around the world such like caucasian. cause what the objective we work for?? for money to pay the loan and liabilities??? or for money to save for our future and family???plus nowaday all thing is increasing such like petrol,food and other of this goverment plan. u look at the japan country, their lifestyle is good but their food price is high. but they good because they get a good paid. not like our country,goverment dont bother those private firm how their operate their low income worker.they just set a rule that at least a worker can get RM3.5 per hour for general worker. but i wondering how many years for this rule??? and comparing a meal's price in that year and nowaday price...do u think it still have the value?

Its already been discussed b4...
Do u know how much is Malaysia tax rate?
Outside country like UK and US are taxing like 40%...

Dont ask why is it related....figure it out.

my 2 cents:

in germany, angela merkel has used to study physics, i think she has a phd in physics.
most of their ministers have phd qualifications i.e. dr. etc etc.
- a technocratic goverment.

what does physics have to do with governing a nation?
nothing but it trains the mind to look at things analytically, systematically instead of giving some optimistic speech, false promises. but then again, that's politics.

here. portfolio's are rotated ie. minister of education for the current term, next term. minister of defence.

the problem with such a system is they lack the technical skills and experience. have to rely on their deputies to fill them in. how can u compare a guy with say 20-30 years experience in the army against a minister who never worked in the army before yet become minister of defence?

education minister..dun even have a masters let alone a phd. conferred titles don't count as a real post graduate degree. what would he know about the real state of affairs in our country's education system?

in other words, whatever the gov. say/promise, ignore. all talk cock only.

especially critical ministries like economy, the real decision makers are the deputies who prepare the reports for the minister to decide on.
this is because the deputies can influence the reports and the minister with no sound technical background simply makes a decision.

when election time comes, dun simply believe what candidate xxx tell u. all talk cock only.

Tax is low but cost of living is increasing.

There are no easy way in life. Everyone is given enough resources such as education, loan and etc. There will be people who failed, and success. We are much lucky compare to others country. So appreciate your current situation and utilise every resources you have to achieve your dreams. Like what PL said is true, we should not see only obstacles, but also opportunities

i worked rm2.5/hr before
i am a freshie before and i think i am always a freshie
i learnt one thing
work smart and hard.... get yourself out from the 'lui bo kau iong' category then u can feel what i am feeling while reading your post

How to work "smart"? Mind to share some of your techniques here ...

Cost of living in Malaysia is high.....everything is increase but not salary...wait until next year when petrol cost RM2.50 per litre.....
You think all these minister care.....they all make big money....

so salary is low.....but how low is consider low ???

When you are not able to cover your monthly expenses, then it's considered "low".

we work for debt, not savings lol

Standard of living in Malaysia is very high.

Comparatively, our salary and food, I don't even know how Malaysians can survive ... hehe ...

I don't think that the lower income groups can survive whilst the standards of living is higher and higher...

but does their government go waste money build those putrajaya and those tall tall tower or building?

ask badawi this questions.
what will he reply?

My advice, live with what you got. Yes cost is going up, but you still need to spend with what you have, and not comparing with what other people have.

If you wanted to have better things, find ways to increase your income instead of blaming the G.

agree.
spend depends what you earn and not comparing with other good paid friends.

if you earn penny,spend penny,
if you earn a a lot,spend a lot

if you earn penny and want to spend a lot, start to learn how to earn a lot. no one to blame, everyman work their a$$ off. you cant blame why you are not bill gates son. you cant blame why your father's business so unlucky.you dont compare why malaysian is worse than uk.if you wanna compare.compare malaysia and africa.compare you and the unfortunate one.you feel better.

dont compare.ren bi ren, bi si ren.(mandarin)

my father told me,if every one want to be boss,so who's gonna work?

is this call blame???? i feel it jsut voice out my opinion. if our country continuing like this and those daily product price is increasing and salary is unchange.....do u think we got a peace and no crime country???? u know why our country got so many snatch thief and robber??? this also related of the salary..... u see, a person with good income they wont go to rob because they are well paid and can hedge the inflation. if u dont have enough money to spend, what the first thinking do u will come out in ur mind?? borrow?? rob??? or work more??? borrow is ok, loan shark is everywhere also nowaday.robber is the easiest n fastest way.it like do or die only. once u success, u get the money, u dont u die. like bet on big or small....work more??? i dont think it work because ur income is fixed every month. work more for comapny jsut benefit those employer...not urself

If you work in goverment example low ranking the salary is RM 500 plus, every year increment is 30 to 40.

If you work as clark is RM700 plus

But the car is Damn cheap, who say malaysia tax is cheap, may be for salary 2500 is cheap, how about people earning RM 6k plus,

Outsider,

If you have follow this kind of discussion before, you will find that

A) There are people earning 2K per month and they saves 50% of their income. They feel rich.

B) There are people that earn 5K per month and they run out of money every month.

You are what you believe. Robbing is easy??? All it takes is for you to get caught one time and your whole life will be ruined.

Who says that your income is fixed every month?? It is only true if you never save and invest any money. You are only dependent on your salary. I know frugal people that earnb 2K to 3K per month that own one or two houses for investment.

You are what you choose to believe.

Dreamer

money dont come easy.rich people dont become rich in one day.they gone thru hard life.yet they dont blame the government.they blame themselve not working hard enough,not trying hard.

if people request higher salary,employer might hired cheaper foreign labour to work for them.if this become worse,a chaos will happen.local people are jobless,they demand work even though the paid is low.local people will target foreigner to blame not the employer.riot happen.economy downturn.foreign investor leave.leaving thousands of people jobless.

as you can see in the lets talk salary thread.people are jumping around and the salary is not fixed.people are trying to maximize their exposure.employer are aware of how much his employee is worth.if you are fresh grad or just work 1 or 2 years and start whinning, think about it again.

still,put yourselve into the employer point of view.if you are the employer with hundreds of employee under you.increased one employee salary will result in more employee request the same salary increment and its not just 100 or 200 increase that we are talking about.yet the business and employee doesnt perform as they required.

As long as you are relying on a salary to be paid by anyone else other then yourself, your salary is considered low.

Salary low, spend less coz buying 2nd hand proton saga, rent cheap apartment, less entertainment etc.

Salary high, spend more on your mercedes or bmw, rent million dollar house, spend holiday in europe etc.

I am sorry to say that but where have u been for the past 10 years? You are asking the wrong person!

Go ask our *beloved* Tun M. for our money on tallest building and Putrajaya

depend on which country you compare with

Except building the tallest building and Putrajaya, our money oso burned into those stupid useless Univerisity and infrastructure. Thanks to all the Ministers2. 1st is Mr.S*My MALU. kakakkaa.

Well I used to think that if I earn 5 figure salary then I will be rich but now I reach there I don't fell that anymore

u don't go spa and clubbing every night...

that why goverment need to control lor..... if they set a labour law that can increase to RM5 per hour....that price i htink it should be ok and not so expensive mah. our country also getting more foreigner labour, it need to stop......