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> [WTComplain] Soonhooi trading ethics, reserved but sell to other ppl

suiteng
post Aug 4 2006, 10:54 AM, updated 20y ago

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Your name: suiteng
Forumer you are complaining against : soonhooi
Item being sold/bought : Wardrobe, Ikea stool, Bluelight, Rack
Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=320152&hl=
Date of transaction : Today
Amount of money involved : NIL
Details of the complaint : I have reserved a few items supposed to COD today, but he told me in sms that he sold to another person yesterday. Refuse to answer my call now.
Any extra details : Seri Kembangan near new Jusco. HP : 0125527348

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Details :
Soonhooi agreed to deal before end of the week in pm.
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Also confirmed that the items are reserved under my name in the topic.
QUOTE(soonhooi @ Aug 3 2006, 12:07 AM)
ITEM 1, ITEM 2, ITEM 5 RESERVED FOR SUITENG
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I confirmed on the reservation.
QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 3 2006, 09:43 AM)
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I spend my time and phone credit to call my friend to get a van for transport (since transportation not provided). When everything is prepared for today's COD, I received an sms from soonhooi telling me that he sold the items to another buyer yesterday midnight!

What I've lost :
1. Time for arranging transport and calling friends.
2. My phone credit for calling seller and friends.
3. Energy for negotiating with my housemates coz the items supposed to be shared by all of us.
4. My housemate's trust.

My question to the seller :
1. Is it ethical to sell the items to another buyer when you have reserved the items to me?
2. Why wouldn't you answer my phone call? I called you after receiving your sms telling me the items was sold. And called you a few times more until now I decide to put it in dispute. Running away from responsibility?

Edit : Already PM soonhooi about this topic.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Aug 4 2006, 11:06 AM
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:06 AM

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babe....i also got the same case before with other forumer....get use to it la...ppl greedy la....offer a bit higher then it is urs....
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:07 AM

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seller reserves the right to sell his stuff to anyone, since no deposit or money was exchanged.

but since both of u have "verbally" agreed on a deal and he backed out the last minute, i think this is the last sale he'll ever do in LYN. i doubt anyone else would trust him with money after this incident.
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(DoubleClick @ Aug 4 2006, 11:06 AM)
babe....i also got the same case before with other forumer....get use to it la...ppl greedy la....offer a bit higher then it is urs....
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The problem is, I've lost time arranging transport etc. And now seller casually telling me it's sold. I've lost time, money and energy.

At least answer my call la.. why don't wanna pick up the phone wor..
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(deathbringer @ Aug 4 2006, 11:07 AM)
seller reserves the right to sell his stuff to anyone, since no deposit or money was exchanged.

but since both of u have "verbally" agreed on a deal and he backed out the last minute, i think this is the last sale he'll ever do in LYN. i doubt anyone else would trust him with money after this incident.
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Thanks for the comment. Appreciate it notworthy.gif

I understand that seller have the right to sell his stuff to someone else since I didn't give deposit. But at least let me know that he's going to sell it to higher offer so that I can cancel my transport arrangement.. Now I'm stuck sad.gif
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:13 AM

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So sad for u....

Anyway what u hope to get from here?

Apology from him?
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:13 AM

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After agreeing to do something sometone should hold to that promise even if other offers are more tempting. I simply hate that. Kena a couple of times nad after travelling so far.
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 4 2006, 11:13 AM)
So sad for u....

Anyway what u hope to get from here?

Apology from him?
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I'm just angry coz the deal didn't happen and I have already get $$ from my housemates to buy the stuff. It's been an inconvenience to me.. aiya.. I just wanna complain. sad.gif See how other forumers judge the severity of this problem since I'm the victim in this case.

QUOTE(ss_izal @ Aug 4 2006, 11:13 AM)
After agreeing to do something sometone should hold to that promise even if other offers are more tempting.  I simply hate that.  Kena a couple of times nad after travelling so far.
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Agreed. Ofcoz will feel angry if kena ffk or promise not kept. Sigh.
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 4 2006, 11:21 AM)
I'm just angry coz the deal didn't happen and I have already get $$ from my housemates to buy the stuff. It's been an inconvenience to me.. aiya.. I just wanna complain. sad.gif See how other forumers judge the severity of this problem since I'm the victim in this case.
Agreed. Ofcoz will feel angry if kena ffk or promise not kept. Sigh.
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Hey,too bad le..I juz feel those sellers are really irresponsible. I've tried once that the guy FFK me n switch off his hp the whole night sad.gif
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Aug 4 2006, 11:08 AM)
The problem is, I've lost time arranging transport etc. And now seller casually telling me it's sold. I've lost time, money and energy.

At least answer my call la.. why don't wanna pick up the phone wor..
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maybe cos ur voice so 'sweet' for him ...ehhehe
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:35 AM

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Yeah seller is iresponsible...But anyhow there will still got ppl will still buy things from him...
If his price is good...

So sorry for u...but we really cant do anything...
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:46 AM

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Another thread with so many "uncontribrutal" post.
We should just wait the seller to come in explain before assume anything.
If he do not come explain within 1 week, then he can be put into M.O list.
Now, plz stop all the "i think", "i feel" & "maybe" kind of post.
If u wanna increase post count, go spam other place.
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:50 AM

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Already PM and SMS the seller. Just wait and see whether he turn up or not. smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2006, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Aug 4 2006, 11:46 AM)
Another thread with so many "uncontribrutal" post.
We should just wait the seller to come in explain before assume anything.
If he do not come explain within 1 week, then he can be put into M.O list.
Now, plz stop all the "i think", "i feel" & "maybe" kind of post.
If u wanna increase post count, go spam other place.
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Lolz......
Hope im not one of those u mentioned..

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post Aug 4 2006, 12:53 PM

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Hi,

sori to hear this. hope soonhooi replies to you.

i have COD 2 notebooks with him under 2 occasions. he drove all the way from KL to Ipoh to deliver and took time to test them. and he even drove to Ipoh again to deliver a promised Samsung 256 RAM for my Tecra. so far, he is ok.

hope he replies and explains the case to you.

good luck to you.


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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Aug 4 2006, 12:53 PM)
Hi,

sori to hear this.  hope soonhooi replies to you.

i have COD 2 notebooks with him under 2 occasions.  he drove all the way from KL to Ipoh to deliver and took time to test them.  and he even drove to Ipoh again to deliver a promised Samsung 256 RAM for my Tecra.  so far, he is ok.

hope he replies and explains the case to you.

good luck to you.
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WOW....pardon me....but i sense something wrong...or he's stupid...
Or he actually have to go Ipoh for other reasons so just passby your place.

Well....different case different situation..
Eventhough he really did that for u, doesnt means anything...

Cheers
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post Aug 4 2006, 05:51 PM

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He should have informed you that he received a better offer at the time he receieved the offer and not conviently SMS just as you about to go get it. That is irresponsible.

How long does it take to write a SMS I ask? And if it is just 1 or 2 days before the Cash and Carry (COD means you pay him when he delivers to you, too many people make that mistake tongue.gif) he shouldn't have accepted any offers.
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post Aug 4 2006, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 4 2006, 05:51 PM)
He should have informed you that he received a better offer at the time he receieved the offer and not conviently SMS just as you about to go get it. That is irresponsible.

How long does it take to write a SMS I ask? And if it is just 1 or 2 days before the Cash and Carry (COD means you pay him when he delivers to you, too many people make that mistake tongue.gif) he shouldn't have accepted any offers.
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Yeah.. Imagine how I feel when I receive an SMS in the morning telling me to forget about the deal. Could have let me know before selling to other ppl, with the reason for deal cancellation. Then I can do my part in cancelling my transport arrangement.

This morning really kelam kabut cancel everything. You should have seen my housemate's face, disappointed. More over, seller could at least pick up my call la. Why is it easy to reply my SMS but so hard to pick up my call?
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post Aug 4 2006, 06:41 PM

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ok, i am here.
I am not here to explain or defend myself. Just to tell whatever it is happening.
Firstly, i am so sorry to suiteng cz may be is me cz her feel so angry. I am sorry.

I have sms suiteng to explain to her but seem she never post up anything i hv reply to her.
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post Aug 4 2006, 06:52 PM

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1. I am not get any higher offer or better offer. Just got forumer can COD yesterday night. When we finish move upall the items to the forumer car, it is already around 2am.
2. I have tried to communicate to suiteng whether she can deal on thursday night, but she can not. It is ok, but i keep asking for confirmation from her whether friday night she have transport to COD at my location, suiteng said c how.
3. I have to clear my room or where should i put all those big wardrobe and table.
4. i even offer suiteng i can try to put the big wardrobe into my car and send to her, but my car cant fit, and i have informed her.
5. During out communication with sms during thursday evening, i even express to suiteng that i really hope got ppl can COD at thursday night so my problem can be solved. She still ok and normal in reply me sms.
6. i have sms suiteng since this morning to suiteng. Regards to din pick up my phone, i am sorry. But there is lots of miss call. Suiteng call me with local phone number, so i do not have this number in my phone book record.
7. I am not convenience due to need to complete d tax assessment that should be submitted to IRB during morning.
8. i do reply every sms of suiteng.
9. Suiteng, i am sorry to you and hope u can accept my apology. Sorry.

This post has been edited by soonhooi: Aug 4 2006, 06:52 PM

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