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post May 19 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ May 19 2014, 11:11 AM)
plis forgib my brain.
I still cannot understand  laugh.gif
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post May 19 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ May 19 2014, 11:28 AM)
The Ultrex how much and temp? tq  notworthy.gif

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this is the kind of turn you will be seeing when I bring you there....unlike other places N9 trunk roads are more like tarmac rally course...
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huah those roads damn awesome way... hows traffic? got bicycles on that area? (eg: genting sempah morning damn lots of cyclists)

as for ultrex, similar to another certain brake pad brand, they can claim the world, but if it fades/shit happens, they won't bother lo sad.gif
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post May 19 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ May 19 2014, 11:59 AM)
if weekday chances of seeing monkey more than seeing human....
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post May 19 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Razsus @ May 19 2014, 01:11 PM)
LOL !!! What did I just see  doh.gif  doh.gif
Yea got it from EA didn't expect it fades so fast maybe is a faulty product I got here LOL ! I saw your review on RS 550, does it really eat up the disc that fast  shocking.gif  I almost go with RS when buying pads.  I hope they do bother ( for ultrex ) I told drex about the issue liao he said will notify the supplier in a few days more I PM him see how LOL , cause my OEM pads withstand heat better than this  doh.gif 
Rm190 for Ultrex 550
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yeap no joke, 9 months until backing plate.
around 10k or even less than 10k km.
genting downhill almost every time fade, got 1 time fade until got smoke and totally no brakes (lol only the drums work, and rear braking a? woohoo fish tails~) had to stop road side karak for about 30+minutes to let the brakes cool. the wheels were smoking for at least 5-10minutes.

not to mention it raped my rotors so much i had to skim it, heart ache to see the slots being shaved thin.
never again.

EBC greens 1 year 7 months+
20-23k km+
never faded even until the backing plate.

QUOTE(TitanRev @ May 19 2014, 02:08 PM)
Unless u want sponsor all of us EBC...then we are happy to accept it....
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and hor, why do people think ebc is a premium brand leh? to foreigners, ebc is just oem only lorh.
http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/itemdetail.asp?catid=11228
my greenstuff costed me RM250
+20GBP shipping for single pad is additional rm100 which i obviously didn't ship a single piece lo. and despite that, it's still around same price, if not still cheaper than local price.

then there is their oem replacement which MANY people commented that it is pretty much same performance as greens except it's temperature threshold is a bit lower (and mind you, people still brake till glowing red disc and claim no fade ya), and it produces more brake dust.
http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/itemdetail.asp?catid=9972 RM100+
with single pad shipping also rm200.

ultrex cost rm190, i might as well ad rm10 for ebc ultimax, no?

and that's assuming you're shipping ONE brake pad all the way from UK. you go find people bulk and share shipping, 20GBP split by 3 people/pads you only need to pay rm33-35 shipping.

and that company dare publish temperature graphs tests wo. who will i trust more?
(FYI greenstuff is only rated to be around 400-500 celsius, yet many nutcases will whack until glowing red disc and still claim no brake fade anyways)
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post May 19 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 19 2014, 02:25 PM)
my viva stock brake, use untill smoke pun out, still able to cope with my driving until now still nice nice. so brand doesn't matter its the material matters.
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post May 19 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Razsus @ May 19 2014, 02:34 PM)
Oh shit, sorry to hear that  doh.gif  Am lucky didn't get RS 550 LOL but not too lucky when I got this Ultrex also  sweat.gif
My experience from genting downhill, ( Slow only seriously ) Didn't put L just brake all the way down, after genting downhill around 50-60% pads start fading actually quite good LOL. After next time put L ( slowly roll ) brake less = no fade  thumbup.gif

Now ultrex go out buy wantan mee come back fade with bau toast bread  tongue.gif ( JK bau pads hangus )
Of course I push but can't even push as hard as the OEM  [ Me is Sad ]
Note: I push before my OEM pads in anyway I can never faded only once is genting downhill ( once hangus for 2 years time not bad  thumbup.gif  )
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i admit my driving is a bit aggressive, but wei, c drive 2 comfort tires and a 58 horsepower iswara on 3 speed automatic, how FAST can i go weih?
just gohtong to karak already smoking and NO BRAKES left except the drums/handbrakes.

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damn stupid experience lorh

prior my personal experience, got a lot of people ady posted similarly bad experience which i ignored because eh, the owner is actually a nice guy and to be fair he contributed a LOT on our local grassroot motorsport scene.
especially the ones where people claim OEM pads are better, which i just dismiss it as people just trolling/bad mouthing for no reason.

after my own experience, i'm convinced :/
but yea, after EBC, never look back again.

it's not that i look down on local brands, but when you get shit like that (JTX anyone?) flooding the market with a ton of sheeps/zombies supporting them, can you blame me for being biased? i don't have the time to filter out a gem among the sea of rubbish.

QUOTE(TitanRev @ May 19 2014, 02:40 PM)
Because u told me seller here goreng price so it become premium brand...hahaha
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ya lo, so as an informed consumer i don't need to buy locally ma. my advice (if you're seriously considering EBC) is to buy from brakes4u (UK) or if you're only buying 1pad, or 2 pads with 2 separated shipment, buy from amazon.com (USA) for cheaper shipping/conversion rates smile.gif

you get freshes/updated pad versions for much lower price than local.
by updated, give you an example:
greenstuff has already updated to version 6 or something, local one is like ver2 or 3

there's pad material separation issue which is annoying especially it makes sound when you're NOT braking. newer ones are updated with hook type backing plate/better pad material, not to mention they got free a pack of copper high temperature grease, noise reduction anodized aluminum shims, and all ebc brake surfaces are coated with brake/bed in coating material to help aid/speed up bedding in process.

all the above are NOT available for local iswara (and wira) ebc greenstuff. and their current stocks are so old the entire pad is full of rust. they give huge discount of rm70+, but that's based on their overpriced pricing sad.gif
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post May 19 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ May 19 2014, 02:04 PM)
when it is new, at track is good la.
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RS when new also damn good laugh.gif
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post May 19 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Razsus @ May 19 2014, 02:49 PM)
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By the way you using EBC now ? How's the biting ? And price? (Most important  sweat.gif  )
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QUOTE(Razsus @ May 19 2014, 03:00 PM)
To test out the brakes need to be tekan 99 only can ma we understand  whistling.gif  hahaha
But how much is the price for EBC ? Around 550 degree, after total cost ( with shipping ) ?
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ya this is my second time on EBC greenstuff for my proton iswara.

for my second time, because i needed to get track level pads for my inspira as well as i am gearing it for Sepang, i went straight to UK from an EBC recommended dealer:
http://twitpic.com/e33fq4

http://twitpic.com/e33kpy

as i have posted to titanrev on the url/pricing, you may opt for EBC ultimax if you're not too concern on aggressive touge/track days, and don't care about brake dust.
it's RM10 more expensive than female sanitary pads whistling.gif
probably cheaper if you buy from amazon usa, or find 1-2 more kaki to share shipping.

then you start praying that your shipment don't get taxed (mine evaded, refer above image LOL!)

anyways, do take note even EBC greenstuff are NOT rated for 550 celsius ya, only the nut cases here brake till disk glow red and claim no fade so take their words with pinch of salt ya whistling.gif
only their yellow stuff are above 500c, blue in the 600-700 and they are not street legal.
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post May 19 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Razsus @ May 19 2014, 03:29 PM)
I check their website got for proton don't have for Saga / Sagablm / flx , checked amazon not even for proton  cry.gif
Sad 99 , Eh I see their website their Greenstuff can brake up to 600celcius weii not bad for that price LOL
If it does as good as you said should be top choice edi
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oh ya hor, iswara inherited from lancer fiore/colt laugh.gif

but eh you try email them, if possible provide your existing pad specification (size, shape, picture also welcomed) and they may inquire with EBC directly
http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/ see the "what's new" section, it's my inspira/lancer yellowstuff that was just added because it wasn't there when i inquired with them. they added specifically for my order laugh.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ May 19 2014, 04:47 PM)
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iswara tarak sad.gif
inspira haven't check but planning to wear off existing rotors first
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QUOTE(Mic_Xeno @ May 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
Hi jason smile.gif

May i know u use RS berapa degree? How dafuQ u drive sampai fade..i kenot brain.
As u know im touge kaki and also a track kaki, RS pads is actually not bad. I've tried the RS800 with standard 1.5 brake kit and i never fade even once. Track, touge or apa genting downhill..no fade pun.
So i guess you're using too much brake on downhill? Or u left foot braking all the way? Lolololol
And yes ebc greenstuff if grippier than RS pads, bear in mind, here iz msia. The price is mad and its considered advance pads here compare to all the other pads.
RS800 - last for only 4months
EBC greenstuff - last for only 5months
How come u so long ar? Either u're abusing the pads or not even fully utilize it

Currently im using project mu on evo3 twin pot pair with Sasuki RA1(honda odyssey disc).
Just tested on sepang yesterday where i could even do about 80-50m braking on first turn.
Peace yo  icon_rolleyes.gif
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neh that time you teman'd me at karak there forgotten? i had to stop my car because of smoke from wheels and no brake. i told you guys to continue on no need wait for me.

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post May 19 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mic_Xeno @ May 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
May i know u use RS berapa degree? How dafuQ u drive sampai fade..i kenot brain.
As u know im touge kaki and also a track kaki, RS pads is actually not bad. I've tried the RS800 with standard 1.5 brake kit and i never fade even once. Track, touge or apa genting downhill..no fade pun.
So i guess you're using too much brake on downhill? Or u left foot braking all the way? Lolololol
And yes ebc greenstuff if grippier than RS pads, bear in mind, here iz msia. The price is mad and its considered advance pads here compare to all the other pads.
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but anyways i was on RS 550c, and my highest rotor temperature never exceeded 450c, so that's that.

further EBC isn't as premium as everyone thought it to be, mainly Malaysian distributor pentagon jacking the price and dealers/sellers further marking it up a notch.

if you have a credit card, do consider ordering online for much better savings nod.gif
for the record i never left foot brake regardless of auto/manual, i'm just not used to it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ May 19 2014, 05:27 PM)
solution, buy use Quaza's CC.
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QUOTE(dares @ May 19 2014, 08:19 PM)
Wah clash of the egos liao icon_question.gif

me kucimiao faster go hide ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 19 2014, 10:14 PM)
For me, if I could ever reach 130bhp with reliability stays in the car, I'd rather change a MIVEK engine, probably still cheaper than getting the mod done to achieve 100hp/litre on a bloody Kampro doh.gif
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old mivec with lifting yes, new DVVT mivec, hp lose to wira somemore laugh.gif (but we got more torque throughout the entire power band between 10-20 ft pound more (between 14-28 nm more after convert)
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 20 2014, 05:03 AM)
Hence ayam saying, Kampro is using hydraulic lifting as well(not physical cam gearing). It's just as hard to achieve those figure as your DVVT mivek hydraulic lifter. Look at our very own CPS engine notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 20 2014, 07:46 PM)
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that acceleration even beat mine, being a modern car sad.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 20 2014, 09:40 PM)
I personally believe Tun M is a brilliant business man. Not so wise as in attacking Mr.Quantum back in the old days, but still we wouldn't know what was happening behind, who is taking whose money(that's what make it so brilliant). Nonetheless, I sure know both me and my father are the victims. I was just started to get my job, and my dad still partially sponsoring my college fee back then yawn.gif
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pretty much.
sigh proton had a decent attempt breaking free *A BIT* from total cronyism... now it's all the way back. vain.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 20 2014, 11:08 PM)
Other than FREEDOM, what else is not, about politics? Even your JOB also involved laugh.gif I used to work in Tourism Malaysia for a shortwhile, totally saw what I'm not supposed to see whistling.gif Frankly, without knowing is better, atleast I can have the peace of mind continue living in this cuntry cluelessly yawn.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 21 2014, 06:22 AM)
Been using that for donkey years, if you search post by word match with my nickname, probably will bring u all the back to 3/2012, thats when I joined LYN laugh.gif
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recently more... "happening" i guess; and you get to see more usage of it laugh.gif

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