Would like to verify my understanding, is it safe to say the super ideal diamonds (Habib's hearts on fire, Tomei's Lumiere, and the likes) are just triple ex diamonds with extremely good proportions? -> Yes. Also, if you view from the bottom of the diamond, you will see a clear picture of Hearts & Arrows. This indicates the diamond's precision. Remember, the numbers you view on the certificates are the average number resulted from the amount of angles taken into consideration. We have to remember that diamond cutting is a handcraft, the precision of each angles may differ slightly. Hence, the average will be the result showed on the certificate. To better understand things, refer to the website below/image attached below:
https://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamonds/d...lytics-1535.htm[attachmentid=8937239]
While AGS does not round up the average numbers, GIA does, meaning the average will always be rounded to the nearest "x" degree. So for example, for crown angle, GIA will round up to the nearest 0.5 degree, so for example, 34.3 degree crown angle will be averaged up to 34.5 degree. While for pavilion angle, GIA will round up to the nearest 0.2 degree, so for example , 40.7 degree pavilion angle will be averaged up to 40.8 degree. So, in terms of accuracy, I would say AGS wins. Anyway, GIA is still a world-renowned lab and you will should take both GIA/AGS graded diamonds into consideration. Refer below:
https://diamondcut.gia.edu/06_estimating_a_cut_grade.html[attachmentid=8937247]
Using the proprietary cut score calculator by Enchanted Diamonds:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculatorFor the two diamonds you picked, 2186826647 has a cut score of 94.4, while 3215447623 has a cut score of 97.2. For 2186826647, the crown angle is at 36 degrees, which is considered over-steep. So that is probably where the diamond loses score. For 3215447623, it is cut to slightly deep at 62.6%. Safe rule is to make sure diamond max around 62%. So, that is probably where the diamond loses score.
However, based on the image you provide, which one looks more appealing? Personally, I think is diamond 2186826647. The image is clear. However, not all arrows are similar in size with each other. Also, the "backside" of most arrows are not that balanced. Also, look at the 12 o'clock position, the arrow head is tilted to the left.
For 3215447623, this is strange. The right hand side is obviously darker than the left. I am not sure why but it could indicate that the cut quality is not that good. Maybe a little too deep at that area. So in this case, I would prefer the look of 2186826647 more, despite the numbers on the cert 3215447623 is not as good.
Good thing is, I believe you have seen the diamonds personally, which one looks more appealing to you? Can you request the sales assistant to show you the diamonds under normal fluorescent light? It will be best to see them under normal light because you will know whether the diamond can perform out of the shop.
Lastly, price is another important factor to consider, so it will be best if we can have the price to see whether it is a good buy or not. For example, Hearts on Fire may be a safe buy, but the price is crazy. However, despite the proportions and cut of another diamond is not as good, but the deal is good, sometimes it is worth to consider, if you don't need a super ideal. It all boils down to individual preference.
wow - more things to read and study up - never heard of proprietary cut score calculator before.
actually, in the shop, both 623 & 647 look the same to me - but as i mentioned in my replies above - this is likely due to my inexperience & spotlight in the shop. I asked to view using the ASET scope and Idealscope but the sales consultant responded confused, haha - so I only used a hearts and arrow scope.
I am incline to buy my diamond online now - been browsing these couple of days and online is definitely cheaper, and more choices, but now I'm spoilt for choice.
update: I tested water and she plans to wear the ring quite regularly, not just for functions and dinners - so a 0.7carat might be too big? I'm thinking 0.6carat now.