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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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rose6580
post Apr 20 2015, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(joswth88 @ Feb 27 2015, 02:39 PM)
From personal experience, I would actually suggest you to visit a diamond wholesaler.

They are way more genuine and is the best money can buy rather than buying name/ box like Tiffany and Cartier all.

As long as the diamond is cut at its best cut with 8 hearts and arrows. The diamond is rated at the best cut. So doesn't means triple excellent would shine the best. IT is the cut and also the fluorescent of the stone. The best is without fluorescent at all. Cause stones with it would be the cheapest cause it would be the tint in the rock that cannot be washed off.

ALSO DO CHECK THE DATES OF YOUR CERT!!!!! For rocks smaller than 1ct la, usually a lot is traded in stones!! Especially those older than a year.

In wholesaler, they usually don't sell solitaires dated 3-4 months later than current date unless it is an unusual size.

I've a bad experience from Degem for my proposal before meeting wholesaler.

I bought a Lazare diamond at RM36k for H colour and IF Clarity. However, I just ended up paying for just the brand and it wasnt even 1 ct. It was only 0.8ct. When  you buy that time, the sales retail will say anything and agree with anything but when you decide to trade in only I realised they will only pay max 50% cash back or to trade to another ring or another jewellery it has to be double the price meaning 75k and above! Practically eating your bank account!! LEARNED MY FIRST AND LAST LESSON IN A RETAIL STORE no matter how they name their brand it is just a RETAIL CERT AND PACKAGING not a LAB CERT.

I ended up knowing about the whole concept of wholesale and I found how much more genuine it is. So much worth the value and quality is the best as they got first hand of the diamond and they have their own factory so you can practically customised any design you want whether in gold or platinum.

Just sharing with those moving forward and wholesaler guarantee the best shine of the diamond WITHOUT spotlight.

My wife had so much compliment of her jewelleries from the wholesaler and price (Man save you minimum 30% of the retail price at least but the best and cleanest diamond)

But wholesaler works by appointment. Your can try contacting Bludiamond +60123272110 if your want diamonds or gems that are worth the value. They have tons of GIA Certified Solitaires and ready made jewelleries. But it takes about 2-3 weeks to do the setting for solitaires and also wedding bands. Only thing about wholesaler, don't expect like high end packaging and all la.... Practical the jewelry piece is the most important!!!

They have so much choices rather thn jst few pieces in retail which are way too expensive, overrated and limited choices.

Have fun!!
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hi

i am trying to understand.

you paid RM36K for 0.8carat lazare diamond.

so that would mean your next minimum upgrade must be worth RM72K(RM36K x 2) diamond at least, which means you top up RM36K. correct?

but u stated that when u wanna trade in, they make you top up RM75K instead of RM36K ?

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post Apr 23 2015, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Tyler__Durden @ May 14 2014, 12:29 PM)
Your wedding band and ring should be 5 times of your monthly salary.
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this is quite silly - 5 times? where did that come from? i heard of this before , from somone who is quite 'cinabeng' . i asked her - if ur husband to be brings in 20K per mth - that means he has to buy u RM100K ring?? hahahahahahahah

QUOTE(Azurika @ May 14 2014, 03:10 PM)
Where or how did you get that figure ?
Like that have to look at 3 carat ring d  sweat.gif
Well TS, my rule of thumb which I share and agree with my GF is, why buy something that might not have an appreciation value ? If its a 10k ring, imagine you using only 1k for the ring and 9k to further grow your wealth  tongue.gif  But hey, if the rock can appreciate over time, why not ?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 14 2014, 03:14 PM)
haha.. i think the most important thing is that this wedding is a good and happy moment for both of us. Should i go for it? or got other choices?
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get somthing that is good quality , the carat u can upgrade in later years but ensure that its good colour+clarity+cut. the carat should be the least of worries. i've seen big carat with poor clarity colour and cut. so yellow and ugly !

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post May 4 2015, 11:34 PM

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I bought my engagement ring from Audreys in Kuala Lumpur. They have a good selection of GIA diamonds online on their website, you can also see their bands and rings online try googling Audrey Diamonds Malaysia or something like Wedding bands Kuala lumpur Malaysia, thats how I found them... that and the prices are 30% cheaper than other retailers in Malaysia.. i did my research before proposing to my girl. The owner is friendly too.. he would like to sit you down for coffee and educate you on Diamonds. thumbup.gif

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ejlim88
post May 13 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ May 11 2015, 01:43 PM)
Got any shops in KL have the ASET scope to see the diamond before I buy? So far all the shops I went to don't have it and the HCA score also not very good.

Thinking of travelling to Singapore to buy. Anyone got experience?
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I think shops like Wah Chan, Le Lumiere and Love & Co offer the Ideal Scope to view the Hearts and Arrow of the diamond.

That being said, given that there there is no ASET Scope to view the light performance of the diamond, I will normally take a picture of the GIA Cert to calculate the HCA Score.

I recently purchased a 3EX 0.71 H Color SI2 Clarity (eye clean) from Wah Chan at a reasonable price (my fiance was super excited and happy when she saw the ring biggrin.gif) . I was served by a really friendly sales person as well.

This post has been edited by ejlim88: May 13 2015, 05:03 PM
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post May 15 2015, 03:45 PM

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Q: For the ring, white gold or platinum better?

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post May 15 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ May 15 2015, 03:59 PM)
The Ideal scope you saw, did it look like this?

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I went to Le Lumiere and Love & Co before. I asked for the Ideal scope and they give me the Hearts & Arrows scope like this.

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I don't think they know what the Ideal scope is leh..

I saw some online diamond website have all the scopes.. but I prefer to see the diamond before buying it if possible..
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If there is a difference between the Hearts & Arrows Scope and Ideal Scope, then I retract my earlier statement. I thought both were the same. doh.gif

That said, I think by using the Hearts & Arrows scope, you will still be able to see the light leakages from the diamond, if there is any (I stand corrected if I am wrong).


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post May 18 2015, 12:15 PM

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Go to www.idojewellery.com , you will get everything diamonds and ring designs that you needed at great price


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post May 19 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(bgbk78 @ May 15 2015, 03:45 PM)
Q: For the ring, white gold or platinum better?
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Gold is better, can reshape. Platinum cannot be reshaped.
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post May 19 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ May 18 2015, 03:31 PM)
Ya! That's what I thought at first. But then I read the Hearts and arrows scope is to only see the pattern of the cut or to see the symmetry. It won't show light leakages.
To see the light leakages only the Ideal or ASET scope will show.

This is what the proper Ideal scope is suppose to look like


I went to alot of shops and they also think its the same but its not. I'm thinking if I should just buying the scope myself and go arnd see see
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This is the shop that I bought my engagement ring., JannPaul. biggrin.gif
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post May 20 2015, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ May 18 2015, 03:31 PM)
Ya! That's what I thought at first. But then I read the Hearts and arrows scope is to only see the pattern of the cut or to see the symmetry. It won't show light leakages.
To see the light leakages only the Ideal or ASET scope will show.

This is what the proper Ideal scope is suppose to look like


I went to alot of shops and they also think its the same but its not. I'm thinking if I should just buying the scope myself and go arnd see see
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I think you are right. To see light leakage, you have to place the loose diamond under a light and use the ASET/Ideal Scope to view from the top. That service certainly isnt given by jewelry shops in KL.

I think this video by Garry Holloway is self explanatory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_yqYDZdxyI

Do let me know the price of an ASET Scope and where to get them in Malaysia. I also would like to buy the scope and go kaypoh.

Cheers bro.
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post May 21 2015, 04:18 PM

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Well, I really like Diamond Platinum. If you are looking for a diamond ring, you can always check that place out. And there are a lot of things to learn from them before buying.
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post May 21 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ May 21 2015, 05:59 PM)
I read alot of good reviews about them.. Ideally I prefer to get in KL.. less le che. But if I can't find any shops with the scopes, Singapore will be my next option.

Did you go to Singapore to buy and collect yours? Or they got do delivery?
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I work in Singapore. laugh.gif laugh.gif So basically I just went there and choose the proposal ring. Since its customized, hence it was finished after two months.

I can say JannPaul offered me the best buck of price with no drop in diamond quality. Highly recommended. thumbup.gif

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post May 24 2015, 12:19 AM

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what type of wedding band is in trend nowadays? gold or white gold? *not so interested in platinum, as i think its overpriced. smile.gif
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QUOTE(wilsonyew @ Feb 16 2015, 11:23 PM)
Hi all the sifu there, i also started planning to buy my proposal ring. Just went to one of the shop ask today. They quote me RM 5k with the casing for the below spec :

- 0.4 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

Is it a good deal ? Of i can get a better spec within my 5k budget ?
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I got something like this... Round cut, 2Ex, Good Polish, F color, 3.2k with simple 18k white gold ring. This was 3 years ago from Habib.

So I think your gem spec is pretty good actually if its Round Cut.
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post May 29 2015, 03:13 PM

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Can most diamond engagement rings be returned and resized if you didn't get the right size for her? I'm talking about the higher end stores - will they do this? Thanks in advance.
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post Jun 3 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Farmer_C @ May 29 2015, 03:13 PM)
Can most diamond engagement rings be returned and resized if you didn't get the right size for her? I'm talking about the higher end stores - will they do this? Thanks in advance.
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I think most shops offer resizing for free of charge. That said, please check with the sales person before purchasing.
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post Jun 3 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ May 28 2015, 03:42 PM)
I've been contacting Jannpaul over email and shortlisted these 2 diamonds to save time. They're very prompt in their replies.
I'm visiting their store next week to see the diamonds but want to prepare for any possible qns.

The 2 diamonds I shortlisted are around the same price. Will you go for the E VVS2 or D VS1?
Both are their Super Ideal Cut range.

I checked on http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
The 0.42 E VVS2 HCA score is 1.4. The 0.41 D VS1 has a better HCA score 1.0.

One is GIA, the other is AGS. I read both are good and comparable. AGS looks abit more impressive to me.. maybe cos it looks bigger and got more details.
Should I go for GIA or AGS?

Any tips or questions I need to prepare when I'm there?

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I agree that the AGS Diamond looks more impressive on paper. Despite both being Super Ideal Cut Diamond, the Cut on the ASG is much better than the GIA diamond. thumbup.gif

If given such a choice, I think the decision on which diamond boils down on the price. You will still need to look at both the diamonds before deciding.

I am just curious why the AGS diamond, dated Sept 2014 is still available. sweat.gif

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post Jun 10 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(swabe13 @ Jun 5 2015, 12:34 PM)
These are the scope photos for the 0.41 D VS1 (AGS certificate).

Does it look ok? Going to SG tmr to see and confirm the stone  tongue.gif
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Looks really good swabe. How much is JeanPaul asking for this stone?

If the price is within your budget, this diamond is a must get. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 10 2015, 04:57 PM

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knowing JannPaul pricing, diamond of that spec at least $ 2.5k up, setting at least another $ 550
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spot on because i enquired with them when i was looking for one laugh.gif

i end up with Lovis Diamond, cost me only half of what JannPaul is asking for with similar size.

Both me and my wife are not so attention to details kind when it come to diamond so it works for us. smile.gif

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