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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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jovene11
post Nov 12 2014, 10:54 AM

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where to buy genuine good diamonds retailers in malaysia..
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post Nov 12 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Nov 12 2014, 09:04 AM)
Shine has nothing to do with carats. Shine is to do with how it is cut, so it is not surprising that a .9 can be shinier than a 1.1c  biggrin.gif

Just ask them for the measurements and pump it into their online tools that can guestimate quite decently the shine and brilliance the stone can cut.

Do bear in mind, Malaysia have the cheapest diamonds around SEA if I'm not wrong, but Singapore might have more selections due to the market.
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hmm where would you suggest me to scout diamond with just GIA cert in Malaysia? hmm.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Nov 12 2014, 12:27 PM)
hmm where would you suggest me to scout diamond with just GIA cert in Malaysia? hmm.gif
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My friend got his from Audrey's (http://audreys.com.my/index.php/), maybe other forumers can guide you to any other sites.

They are quite transparent, providing all the details as well as the GIA certification number (so you can look it up online) on their website.

What we did was got a shortlist of the stones within his budget and 4C's, then check out each stone in the GIA website (they will give you the online certification) and run it through the tools available online (http://www.pricescope.com/tools) and narrow it down to the final few which was the best among the shortlist.

He got the settings done outside by another jeweller according to his customise design. I'd say the shine of the diamond was a good as the Lazare I got for my fiancee, and I think overall he got his down for about 30% less. The only drawback is less bragging rights, but really, unless it's a Tiffany, Cartier, Lazare or something, would your wife to be really care about that?
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post Nov 12 2014, 02:34 PM

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Spot on fuzzy. Sounds like u went through the exact steps I went through when I was sources my stone. Did a lot of homework. In the end is a personal choice; to me, brand is secondary. The diamond's brilliance and cut is priority. I compared a couple of Tiffany diamonds on pricescope and the returning rates are really poor. The sales person have no knowledge about this area. Mind you this is Singapore, takashimaya.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Nov 12 2014, 02:01 PM)
My friend got his from Audrey's (http://audreys.com.my/index.php/), maybe other forumers can guide you to any other sites.

They are quite transparent, providing all the details as well as the GIA certification number (so you can look it up online) on their website.

What we did was got a shortlist of the stones within his budget and 4C's, then check out each stone in the GIA website (they will give you the online certification) and run it through the tools available online (http://www.pricescope.com/tools) and narrow it down to the final few which was the best among the shortlist.

He got the settings done outside by another jeweller according to his customise design. I'd say the shine of the diamond was a good as the Lazare I got for my fiancee, and I think overall he got his down for about 30% less. The only drawback is less bragging rights, but really, unless it's a Tiffany, Cartier, Lazare or something, would your wife to be really care about that?
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+1 to what fuzzy said. I am said friend.

Overall, I did spend a lot more time as compared to fuzzy when picking out the ring - but I really thought it was a fun process, and I now know a lot more about diamonds. Of course, getting the stone and setting separately also gives you the freedom to pick out the type of setting you like. Some will say that looking for the stone, and thinking of the design is a lot of work, but some will prefer it as it is more personalized.

At the end of the day, when she puts the ring on, you can't tell if its a Tiffany, Tomei or personalized.
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post Nov 12 2014, 09:16 PM

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thanks for the valuable feedback, will surely check out audrey before buying.

edit: audrey only sells big stone?

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QUOTE(shauno @ Nov 12 2014, 04:37 PM)
+1 to what fuzzy said. I am said friend.

Overall, I did spend a lot more time as compared to fuzzy when picking out the ring - but I really thought it was a fun process, and I now know a lot more about diamonds. Of course, getting the stone and setting separately also gives you the freedom to pick out the type of setting you like. Some will say that looking for the stone, and thinking of the design is a lot of work, but some will prefer it as it is more personalized.

At the end of the day, when she puts the ring on, you can't tell if its a Tiffany, Tomei or personalized.
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Mind sharing where you got your setting done? I'm at a lost for which one to choose sweat.gif

All this horror stories about setting in subpar gold and what not has me a tad bit paranoid.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Nov 12 2014, 09:16 PM)
thanks for the valuable feedback, will surely check out audrey before buying.

edit: audrey only sells big stone?
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If I'm not wrong, they have a range of stones. What I did was to go over to their outlet, let them know what your budget and all is. They sent me a list of their existing stock, and told me to take my pick.

QUOTE(marquis @ Nov 13 2014, 11:05 AM)
Mind sharing where you got your setting done? I'm at a lost for which one to choose sweat.gif

All this horror stories about setting in subpar gold and what not has me a tad bit paranoid.
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I got mine from a friend who was recommended. PM me if you want to know his contact
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post Nov 19 2014, 05:55 PM

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i have price list of Audreys, frankly it is not cheap. a 0.4c without triple excellent also cost 4.5k and above but their price is inclusive of settings.

Have my eye on a 0.4c / G / IF / Triple ex, HCA score of 1.6 in Singapore at SGD 1680 without setting.

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Nov 19 2014, 05:55 PM)
i have price list of Audreys, frankly it is not cheap. a 0.4c without triple excellent also cost 4.5k and above but their price is inclusive of settings.

Have my eye on a 0.4c / G / IF / Triple ex, HCA score of 1.6 in Singapore at SGD 1680 without setting.
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Get their dimension, run it through the tools as the score might not fully reflect how the stone shines. IF you add in setting, it might cost more than Audrey's, I think it is better (if you have something in mind) to get your own setting from someone you trust.
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TS u seem very kaya leh....
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Sorry if I am asking a stupid question. But where to get the dimension detail to input into the HCA calculator? Does the retailer actually have all those information?
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QUOTE(darx84 @ Dec 22 2014, 02:41 PM)
Sorry if I am asking a stupid question. But where to get the dimension detail to input into the HCA calculator? Does the retailer actually have all those information?
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the information is on the GIA cert, if you can get the GIA number then it is easy as the information is available online.
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QUOTE(darx84 @ Dec 22 2014, 02:41 PM)
Sorry if I am asking a stupid question. But where to get the dimension detail to input into the HCA calculator? Does the retailer actually have all those information?
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the information is on the GIA cert, if you can get the GIA number then it is easy as the information is available online.
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post Dec 28 2014, 02:45 PM

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Any opinion on Wah Chan diamond? They claimed theirs comparable to more branded one and cheaper. Also comes with GIA cert for 0.3 above.
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Dec 28 2014, 02:45 PM)
Any opinion on Wah Chan diamond? They claimed theirs comparable to more branded one and cheaper. Also comes with GIA cert for 0.3 above.
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Follow your budget.
I only bought rm1500 wedding ring last time.
With current economy, the rings are kept in our pocket as we don't want to end up with fingers being cut.
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QUOTE(joohui @ Jun 7 2014, 11:34 PM)
Bro, just get whatever your fiancee like. Never get her engagement ring that "you think" is best for her, the ladies' brain works slightly different as we know it.

Just go easy on the wedding band, coz you'll wear it everyday, frankly, very easy to lose it.
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that is right. ask her what she likes. girls areeee different from guys. haha nod.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 14 2014, 11:54 AM)
Hi ladies and gentlemen,

I want to propose to my gf later this year if i can find a suitable ring as soon as possible. All those preparation of the proposal also need some time. smile.gif

My budget for the proposal ring is around RM 10k. Maybe RM 2 - 3k for wedding bands. My gf is dying for Tiffany & Co and I take some time to think about it since a lot of choices out there that can offer me better ring despite the brand itself. Because i think wedding only once in a lifetime, i think should buy the best for her but if i can get better ring somewhere else then maybe i should reconsider.

I asked my friend last week in KL to help me to see some rings in Tiffany & Co and he told me that it is possible to buy a proposal ring for RM 10k with only 0.25 or 0.3 carat of diamond with Tiffany Setting. I not sure about the colour, cut, etc yet because i not there to see it. Maybe that kind of money can buy you 0.25 carat but low colour and cut which i not really sure yet. I will be going to KL this weekend and I will drop by to see the ring myself.

For the wedding bands, if i able to get Tiffany & Co for the proposal ring, i think to buy the wedding bands in other shops.

So what is your advice on this matter? Should i go for Tiffany & Co or other brand for the proposal ring and how about the wedding bands?

Thanks!
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I know a lot of guys who got really nice rings which were customed and not branded but yet cheaper than a branded ring for more value (i.e., better stone and setting). Noone can tell what brand the ring is once its on your finger and you can even custom it to follow a Tiffany design.
But if the actual brand value is important then that will be a the deciding factor.
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post Feb 16 2015, 11:23 PM

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Hi all the sifu there, i also started planning to buy my proposal ring. Just went to one of the shop ask today. They quote me RM 5k with the casing for the below spec :

- 0.4 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

Is it a good deal ? Of i can get a better spec within my 5k budget ?
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QUOTE(wilsonyew @ Feb 16 2015, 11:23 PM)
Hi all the sifu there, i also started planning to buy my proposal ring. Just went to one of the shop ask today. They quote me RM 5k with the casing for the below spec :

- 0.4 carat
- Triple Excellent
- E color
- VS2

Is it a good deal ? Of i can get a better spec within my 5k budget ?
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for 5k you can get bigger one.. where did ya scouted that piece ? smile.gif

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