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chabuchabu
post Jul 17 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jul 17 2014, 02:29 PM)
In a way, yes you're right. But, they may surpass those high end air cooler, though the fans would have to run at basically maximum settings in order to do so, resulting in a very noisy experience. AIO kits are also often dependent on casing airflow, if you have good airflow, the temps may lower slightly.

Cleaning 240mm radiators can be a mess as well. biggrin.gif
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thanks for the clarification, now I understand the differences. Guess I will just stick back to AIO cooler, I am lazy to clean the 240mm radiator. Since I am not overclocking at all, AIO cooler is enough to overkill, haha
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post Jul 17 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jul 17 2014, 02:33 PM)
biggrin.gif What model you're planning to get? Or already using one?
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Already using ... thermaltake water pro 3.0 ...

Been researching month ago before I buy my first rig, previously just laptop user. Too much to research, until now still feel my rig is not built correctly...

below are my specs :
Intel i7-4790 CPU - RM969
Asrock B85-Killer Motherboard - RM289
Kingston HyperX Fury 4GB 1600mhz (2 unit) RAM - RM140x2 = RM280
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD = RM294
Leadtek GTX 760 (reference design) GPU = RM799
TT Water 3.0 Pro Cooler - RM289
Xigmatek Vector 650w PSU - RM299
Bitfenix Shadow case - RM229

feel like should have go with i5-4690 then maybe a H97 motherboard that with intel LAN. Then can go with 2400mhz ram... even casing I also feel kind of lack the airflow design. Top got no ventilation ...
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post Jul 17 2014, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Jul 17 2014, 02:42 PM)
Man that i7 imo is overpriced. You could've gotten a xeon if want future proof.
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But xeon ... not all board support, since it's for server. The bios of the board need to support xeon only able to use it. Isn't it?

QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jul 17 2014, 03:04 PM)
Your Water Pro 3.0 quite noisy at load right? What temps you can get at idle/load?
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Hmm... i not sure, been using it for few weeks , on gaming+streaming also did not hear it. I put it beside my desk. Never heard the fan sound.
idle around 40'c , when doing task around 51'c , have not seen it gone higher than 51'c currently.
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post Jul 17 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Jul 17 2014, 03:43 PM)
Inb4 going r@ven mode
No la dude, it's a "heavy-task" processor by my books. Capable of running 24/7 and having so many threads/core, good for rendering 3D and it's supported by all 1150 board lor. It is a 1150 socket processor why can't it support?
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"It needs proper BIOS support. Xeons are targetted server boards. So its easier for most mobo makers simply to skip it on consumer boards. Its not due to any other limitation."
quote from below link (AnandTech Forums)
http://atforums.mobi/msg.php?threadid=2367...catid=5&rnum=53

QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 17 2014, 03:44 PM)
Check the CPU Support.. icon_idea.gif
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20...Killer/?cat=CPU

It says the Xeon E3-1230 V3 is one of the supported. tongue.gif The CPU is of the Haswell architecture,so compatible with LGA1150 motherboards.
Oh yee.. brows.gif
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yea my board support E3-1230v3... LOL
but what if compare E3-1230v3 vs i5-4690 ? seems price around the same. But E3-1230v3

should really have went for E3-1230v3 ... can save around Rm 200...

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post Jul 17 2014, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Jul 17 2014, 04:02 PM)
There are only "certain" Xeon that needed a server board to fully function, some can use by practically all mobo's that are in the B85 or above league.

If you can see this list > http://processormatch.intel.com/MotherBoar...tName=E3-1230V3
The 1230v3 is compatible with most "business type" board which are the B85/H87

PS : Even the B85 Killer board says that it support the Xeon.
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yea now i learnt something again. How comes suddenly xeon strike into the market of core i series? anyone know? o.o is like making their core i series sales go down by pushing xeon.
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post Jul 18 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(a1075 @ Jul 18 2014, 10:58 AM)
Guys,

Planning to go over Lowyat tonight. Currently my rig is as below:

Core i5 4440 3.1GHZ 6MB - RM554
Corsair 8gb PC1333/1600 16c D3 - RM244
Sapphire R9 270x dual-x 2GB D5 - RM629
1TB SATA WD Blue - RM174
Liteon DVDRW - RM59
CM K380 - RM149
FSP Hexa 500W - RM149
Samsung 22' - RM359

The only that bother me the MOBO. Which should I choose to be suited perfectly?
ASUS H81M-K -RM199
ASUS B85 PRO GAMER - RM379
ASROCK B85M PRO 4 - RM279
ASROCK H87 PRO 4 - RM319

Beside, I would like to purchase wifi card, please advise.

Thanks All.
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Please kindly provide more info, what task you will be doing with your rig?
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post Jul 19 2014, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 19 2014, 08:20 PM)
So there's no way we can use Xeon CPU without a graphics card, right? If the graphics card dies, we can't use the pc unless the card is replaced?

What does this mean, Xeons are for workstation CPU?
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unless u feel rm 150++ more for extra 0.3ghz(around 8.1% more) + a iGPU which even dota2 lowest setting also just 40fps but still able to display and watch movie , then u can probably get that instead of xeon e3-1230v3
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post Jul 24 2014, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Joch @ Jul 24 2014, 07:24 PM)
guys i have few question before buying desktop tmr.

assuming i am using cm storm scout 2 casing : http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/cases/scout_2/
how many casing fans do i need as i am not going to oc my comp? (i7 & gtx770)

where should those fans located at?

any good brand for casing fans? i prefer silence one.
i looked at cooler master casing fan and quite a number of negative comment. noctua and scythe gentle typhoon seems quite expensive, nt sure they worth or not  blink.gif
all opinions are welcome and thanks for replying me  biggrin.gif
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if you are not going to OC, u can just stick back to stock fan. It is sufficient enough. Not needed to change it.
For casing fan, I also not very familiar, but it won't too expensive, mostly only Rm 20~30 I remember
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post Jul 28 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(yuunasue @ Jul 28 2014, 09:05 PM)
Thanks brother. One more question, I didn't see any GPu there ? I'm not gamer, but play Facebook game like strategy game... Flash game... Can run ?
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Yes, I am pretty sure the i5 can handle facebook flash game. Don't forget it has igpu.
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post Aug 12 2014, 12:30 PM

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[quote=NightFelix,Aug 12 2014, 12:08 PM]
Setup for Adobe Photoshop CC with expansion in mind. I suggest looking for zhen^wei or youngkeen for better quality power supply like Seasonic, Corsair and Antec. They also can build entire rig and post it to you if u don't mind about the hassle of warranty. Failure from quality products is rare.

You need quality products for business use. Or you can order branded PC like HP or Dell for better support.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Will use that as guidelines, I have heard of zhen^wei ideatech but never been before deal with them. If based on their current hardware list offer here: idealtech pricelist so what would be your recommendation?

Few question above as well:
1) I saw others using Xeon type of Intel Proc. What is that? First time heard of it.
2) What makes diff. of Blue, Black, Red, Green of WD HDD? Can you mind to #spoonfeed the difference?

Thank you for your time. smile.gif
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Xeon 1230v3 is almost like an i7 processor without AGP.
Since you not going for Overclock and using external gpu, it is recommended to go for xeon, cheaper.

WD black - faster drive , but still slower than SSD. Expensive.
WD blue - most common drive, cheap and good enough for daily task.
WD red - if not mistaken is specilize for RAID
WD green - lower power consumption but slower speed
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post Aug 12 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 02:18 PM)
If add-in Nvidia Graphic Card, I need top-up how much? What are the price range, does brand matter? hmm.gif
No problem with another RM30 top up for more power PSU.

I don't need Genuine Windows as I know how to DIY. whistling.gif Can save that RM400 something else for better hardware. biggrin.gif
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you play games on company pc...? then depends on what game you playing , then only decide which tier gpu to be use
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post Aug 12 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 02:37 PM)
Nope. I just need to know do external GPU help me on using Illustrator/Photoshop for the next 5years. sweat.gif
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Maybe this?
Intel Xeon E3 1230v3 - RM799
Asrock H97 Pro4 – RM329
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM244
ZOTAC GeForce GTX760 2GB - RM749
Seasonic S12 II 620W PSU - RM299
Intel 530 Series 120GB SSD - RM289
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM174
Corsair Carbide Spec-03 - RM205

gpu from gbros , others from viewnet
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post Aug 12 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(li_5997 @ Aug 12 2014, 04:16 PM)
Okay.. I get it about the processor.
How about the mobo?

Sorry I'm new to Oz and would like to learn more..
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for overclock motherboard it is named as Z
non-overclock is H

example
Z87 = overclockable
H87 = non-overclock

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post Aug 15 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Aug 15 2014, 05:24 PM)
Just get the 280X. wink.gif Even though it doesn't give you twice the performance,it's still better IMO. nod.gif If you're fine with at least above 30FPS (and probably lower settings..),then get the 265,but if i were you,i'll go and grab 280X. tongue.gif Are you getting a new GPU?If so,rig specs? hmm.gif
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1041?vs=1127
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yup , just like what Minecrafter said.
The higher end stuff always cost more money but increased not much.

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