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post Jun 24 2014, 11:42 AM

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News spread out now that Ander Herrera has signed with us...
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jun 24 2014, 10:25 AM)
Anders for 31m or Shaw for 30m.
Which would you choose?
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Shaw la. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jun 24 2014, 11:42 AM)
News spread out now that Ander Herrera has signed with us...
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Not just that..but also this. ph34r.gif

http://www.givemesport.com/478826-luke-sha...dup?flyingspaghettiplay=on
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(oli-78 @ Jun 24 2014, 11:40 AM)
Even Paulinho cost Spurs 17 mil only. And he is a starter for Brazil.    doh.gif
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cos spurs got a gooding techincal director in franco baldini that do all the nego.
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:52 AM

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Eh guys what happen to ganso? Used to buy him in fm everytime.. Now not even in world cup..
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:53 AM

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wtf luke shaw???? better buy daley blind....more cheaper & also more experience...
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i think there's a lot of alternative of shaw, and will save us more than 50% shaw's cost. that will filling a coffer to buy a better cm.

hope herrera rumor is true. he's not a world beater not even in spanish squad, but got potential to be one. we are so desperate for cm.

carvalho did well yesterday, despite the poor result and only played 45min. we are not linking to him anymore, and i think i love his style. both overprice but i think both can be a success.

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post Jun 24 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jun 24 2014, 12:43 PM)
i think there's a lot of alternative of shaw, and will save us more than 50% shaw's cost. that will filling a coffer to buy a better cm.

hope herrera rumor is true. he's not a world beater not even in spanish squad, but got potential to be one. we are so desperate for cm.

carvalho did well yesterday, despite the poor result and only played 45min. we are not linking to him anymore, and i think i love his style. both overprice but i think both can be a success.
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Carvalho cost even more than Herrara
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post Jun 24 2014, 01:47 PM

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With Kayu, overpaying players is a norm. I don't recall David Gill splashing out insane sums for players who have yet to fulfil the potential. Shaw I can understand because he is English and already a certain starter and went to the WC too. We paid 28mil for Rooney back in 2004 when he was 18 too.

But Herrera for 31mil? Sorry. Overpriced. He is pretty much average from my perspective and that 31mil, better we bid for Vidal/Gundogan/Khedira because these are the players we need, not another attacking minded CM. It is time we get a DOF!
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jun 24 2014, 01:47 PM)
With Kayu, overpaying players is a norm. I don't recall David Gill splashing out insane sums for players who have yet to fulfil the potential. Shaw I can understand because he is English and already a certain starter and went to the WC too. We paid 28mil for Rooney back in 2004 when he was 18 too.

But Herrera for 31mil? Sorry. Overpriced. He is pretty much average from my perspective and that 31mil, better we bid for Vidal/Gundogan/Khedira because these are the players we need, not another attacking minded CM. It is time we get a DOF!
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I would say Berbatov was overpriced. We seriously need a good DoF. At least Chelsea can get someone to pay 50m for David Luiz
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post Jun 24 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jun 24 2014, 12:58 PM)
Carvalho cost even more than Herrara
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i know that. herrera are about 30-32 mil gbp while carvalho are about 37-38 mil gbp. both overprice and the price are basically fix point /minimum release fee. no room to negotiate /haggling since both clubs no desperate to sell. we definitely get the players if we willing to pay.

QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jun 24 2014, 01:47 PM)
With Kayu, overpaying players is a norm. I don't recall David Gill splashing out insane sums for players who have yet to fulfil the potential. Shaw I can understand because he is English and already a certain starter and went to the WC too. We paid 28mil for Rooney back in 2004 when he was 18 too.

But Herrera for 31mil? Sorry. Overpriced. He is pretty much average from my perspective and that 31mil, better we bid for Vidal/Gundogan/Khedira because these are the players we need, not another attacking minded CM. It is time we get a DOF!
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do u actually watch atheletic bilbao? 2, 3 games? he's not totally an attacking midfielder. im not saying i following them, but based on his game against us 2 years ago, he's a cm. he was actually sat deep in both games. he was poor on early half of last season, but hit a great form at 2nd half of the season according to many. but not good enough to outshine the likes of koke.

vidal? he got a better choice by staying or moving to spanish giants. gundogan? his fitness are suspect and already extended his contract. khedira? only if real madrid want to sell (good chance if they get vidal /release alonso).

we can aim higher, but im afraid it'll be like last summer.. i optimist with lvg. if he really want particular players, woodward should get it, whatever the price, as early as he can.
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jun 24 2014, 02:23 PM)
I would say Berbatov was overpriced. We seriously need a good DoF. At least Chelsea can get someone to pay 50m for David Luiz
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I know right? WTH man. Chelsea can sell Luiz for 50 Million and Mata for 37 Million. Their Director of Football deserves every ounce of bonus that he gets man. Seriously, what magic trick he pulled on PSG, I really tatau, but we really gotta learn it man.

We all pulak, player got clause 24.5 Million duwan. Want to pay 27 Million instead. haihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 24 2014, 03:13 PM)
I know right? WTH man. Chelsea can sell Luiz for 50 Million and Mata for 37 Million. Their Director of Football deserves every ounce of bonus that he gets man. Seriously, what magic trick he pulled on PSG, I really tatau, but we really gotta learn it man.

We all pulak, player got clause 24.5 Million duwan. Want to pay 27 Million instead. haihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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and after 1 year , wanna sell 15m. profittt!!!
or mufc doing charity?
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jun 24 2014, 02:24 PM)
i know that. herrera are about 30-32 mil gbp while carvalho are about 37-38 mil gbp. both overprice and the price are basically fix point /minimum release fee. no room to negotiate /haggling since both clubs no desperate to sell. we definitely get the players if we willing to pay.
do u actually watch atheletic bilbao? 2, 3 games? he's not totally an attacking midfielder. im not saying i following them, but based on his game against us 2 years ago, he's a cm. he was actually sat deep in both games. he was poor on early half of last season, but hit a great form at 2nd half of the season according to many. but not good enough to outshine the likes of koke.

vidal? he got a better choice by staying or moving to spanish giants. gundogan? his fitness are suspect and already extended his contract. khedira? only if real madrid want to sell (good chance if they get vidal /release alonso).

we can aim higher, but im afraid it'll be like last summer.. i optimist with lvg. if he really want particular players, woodward should get it, whatever the price, as early as he can.
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I've watched a few of his games but he does go forward and most of the time hanging around in the middle in a game, and also what formation Bilbao plays. The most important aspect that we need of a CM is a defensive mindset CM, something like a CDM. He does not live up to his price of 31mil, I can assure you that. Fitness can be trained/regained. No issue, just need to dedication and passion to do so.

Khedira is possible if RM gets Ramires or Vidal. But of course my preference would be Vidal. Experienced, strong, hardworking (attack/defend). Carvalho interest fizzled out already ever since Moyes was sacked. Ideally, Matuidi or Veratti would be a good choice too but PSG won't sell neither so.....

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post Jun 24 2014, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jun 24 2014, 02:24 PM)
i know that. herrera are about 30-32 mil gbp while carvalho are about 37-38 mil gbp. both overprice and the price are basically fix point /minimum release fee. no room to negotiate /haggling since both clubs no desperate to sell. we definitely get the players if we willing to pay.
do u actually watch atheletic bilbao? 2, 3 games? he's not totally an attacking midfielder. im not saying i following them, but based on his game against us 2 years ago, he's a cm. he was actually sat deep in both games. he was poor on early half of last season, but hit a great form at 2nd half of the season according to many. but not good enough to outshine the likes of koke.

vidal? he got a better choice by staying or moving to spanish giants. gundogan? his fitness are suspect and already extended his contract. khedira? only if real madrid want to sell (good chance if they get vidal /release alonso).

we can aim higher, but im afraid it'll be like last summer.. i optimist with lvg. if he really want particular players, woodward should get it, whatever the price, as early as he can.
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MU has one of the worst transfer team working in the background. Look at Bebe and Zaha. How much we overspent on them.

Actually I do rate Herrera but just not at 30 mil gbp. He helped Bilbao reached the CL. Considering the challenge they faced and losing Basque based players such as Llorente, Javi Martinez, it's no small feat to make it to CL.
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jun 24 2014, 03:22 PM)
MU has one of the worst transfer team working in the background. Look at Bebe and Zaha. How much we overspent on them.

Actually I do rate Herrera but just not at 30 mil gbp. He helped Bilbao reached the CL. Considering the challenge they faced and losing Basque based players such as Llorente, Javi Martinez, it's no small feat to make it to CL.
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Well, I personally believe the purchase of Bebe had an ulterior motive, but that is my own assumption.

As for Herrera, I haven't even heard much about him or seen him except that he is linked to MU. For 30M, I really feel nervous about that.

Anyways, we all really need to take all these rumor mongering with a bucket of salt.
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our club got money mah...why waste it?? overprice pon overprice la??? he signed so many commercial deal for wat?? buy bentley, buy fur coat izit?? it's all gonna throw back to invest on new players wat.

wanna help the club? buy more jersey from united megastore, visit OT every month, buy their shares tongue.gif
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Jun 24 2014, 11:52 AM)
Eh guys what happen to ganso? Used to buy him in fm everytime.. Now not even in world cup..
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got his @$$ whooped by neymar laugh.gif
he got injured or something and never able to light up the stage, something along that line

QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jun 24 2014, 01:47 PM)
With Kayu, overpaying players is a norm. I don't recall David Gill splashing out insane sums for players who have yet to fulfil the potential. Shaw I can understand because he is English and already a certain starter and went to the WC too. We paid 28mil for Rooney back in 2004 when he was 18 too.

But Herrera for 31mil? Sorry. Overpriced. He is pretty much average from my perspective and that 31mil, better we bid for Vidal/Gundogan/Khedira because these are the players we need, not another attacking minded CM. It is time we get a DOF!
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jun 24 2014, 03:22 PM)
MU has one of the worst transfer team working in the background. Look at Bebe and Zaha. How much we overspent on them.

Actually I do rate Herrera but just not at 30 mil gbp. He helped Bilbao reached the CL. Considering the challenge they faced and losing Basque based players such as Llorente, Javi Martinez, it's no small feat to make it to CL.
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1) you have understand bilbao's culture and requirement for players ie players from the basque region
2) there is a high buyout clause which we could not deal or refuse to meet last season

bebe was like sven goran eriksson's time of buying players after viewing youtube videos doh.gif
zaha was one of the best young players in the championship and his actual interview was during the carling cup against us
it seems quite common to buy players who beat your @$$ tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2014, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(oli-78 @ Jun 24 2014, 10:20 AM)
Wow, Ander Herrera for 31 million? Players this day is surely overpriced.
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Uh... according to the same paper, the deal will be announced later today.... for 28.4 million. Check the ticker above the page. shocking.gif
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herrera > 31m? i tot his buy-out clause is 31m n will increase after june 30? no?
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ander_Herrera

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