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 Genting Casino has the highest house edge ?, IT HAS THE HIGHEST PROFIT MARGIN !!!

which casino in the world has the highest edge?
 
Sands singapore [ 9 ] ** [8.57%]
genting malaysia [ 58 ] ** [55.24%]
Las Vegas Sands [ 11 ] ** [10.48%]
Sands Macau [ 5 ] ** [4.76%]
澳門新葡京- Grand Lisboa Macau [ 11 ] ** [10.48%]
澳門葡京酒店Lisboa Macau [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
star cruise casino [ 8 ] ** [7.62%]
Wynn Macau [ 3 ] ** [2.86%]
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post May 30 2014, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 29 2014, 11:53 PM)
My new card also can enter bro.
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red card?


u sure bo?

u confirm that is IR ROOM?
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post May 30 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 30 2014, 01:47 AM)
red card?
u sure bo?

u confirm that is IR ROOM?
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Confirm, won some nn chip from Texas holdem tournament. Need to change inside there.
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post May 30 2014, 10:36 AM

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Ermm. i beg to differ
I played pontoon... the reason why house has more edge because some player are ignorant.
1 table can have 7 player... all has different strategy of playing, you got what am trying to say?

HOWEVER, when i manage to convince other player to cooperate with me,such as when to hit the card or doesn't hit, the chances of winning is higher smile.gif

The only game i lost a lot is Roulette, but at pontoon or blackjack.. still has higher margin of winning smile.gif

Oh yeah, i saw a young player, i think around, 21-24 years old, guess what, he used SGD1500, won SGD80K from that pontoon table..!!!

Until the manager of the Casino came down with several security , reason? TOO MANY CROWD surround him and see him play, which, the manager advice him to stop playing.. haha XD

The way he play , i can say, GODLIKE.

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post May 30 2014, 11:36 AM

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Ermm. i beg to differ
I played pontoon... the reason why house has more edge because some player are ignorant.
1 table can have 7 player... all has different strategy of playing, you got what am trying to say?

HOWEVER, when i manage to convince other player to cooperate with me,such as when to hit the card or doesn't hit, the chances of winning is higher smile.gif

The only game i lost a lot is Roulette, but at pontoon or blackjack.. still has higher margin of winning smile.gif

Oh yeah, i saw a young player, i think around, 21-24 years old, guess what, he used SGD1500, won SGD80K from that pontoon table..!!!

Until the manager of the Casino came down with several security , reason? TOO MANY CROWD surround him and see him play, which, the manager advice him to stop playing.. haha XD

The way he play , i can say, GODLIKE.
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sands singapore or resort world sentosa (genting) ?
The way he play , i can say, GODLIKE.
how he play?
add up his betting amount after a winning game?
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post May 30 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 30 2014, 10:20 AM)
Confirm, won some nn chip from Texas holdem tournament. Need to change inside there.
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oh,when u buy nnchip program,u will able to enter ir room.

unless u buy a nnchip program or a person with a silver/gold/platinum card bring u to enter,
u will not able to enter ir room with a red card.


Privileges of silver / gold card / platinum card --

Access to International Gaming Room (IR) and invitation of 2 guests to join the cardholder.

This post has been edited by PLOUFFLE: May 30 2014, 11:43 AM
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post May 30 2014, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 30 2014, 11:36 AM)
sands singapore or resort world sentosa (genting) ?
The way he play , i can say, GODLIKE.
how he play?
add up his betting amount after a winning game?
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RWS
He bet minimun SGD25... then, suddenly, SGD1K and he won!!

he can consecutively win 10 in a row, by that time, he already bet SGD2.5K to SGD5k / hand...

and, he's crazy as he is, he stand on 17, i donno whether pure luck or by his own card calculation, he hit.. and he put an A, while dealer 1st card is K, then put a 2 and then a picture XD.. everyone shouting~~ that bet he put SGD5K.. the max bet XD


if he didn't pull that A , dealer would have get Pontoon...

so, i can say, bravo, GODLIKE~~~


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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ May 30 2014, 10:36 AM)
Ermm. i beg to differ
I played pontoon... the reason why house has more edge because some player are ignorant.
1 table can have 7 player... all has different strategy of playing, you got what am trying to say?

HOWEVER, when i manage to convince other player to cooperate with me,such as when to hit the card or doesn't hit, the chances of winning is higher smile.gif

The only game i lost a lot is Roulette, but at pontoon or blackjack.. still has higher margin of winning smile.gif

Oh yeah, i saw a young player, i think around, 21-24 years old, guess what, he used SGD1500, won SGD80K from that pontoon table..!!!

Until the manager of the Casino came down with several security , reason? TOO MANY CROWD surround him and see him play, which, the manager advice him to stop playing.. haha XD

The way he play , i can say, GODLIKE.
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The wiki article on Pontoon has a strategy chart on how to play. Australian casinos allow you to refer to it. Malaysian casino will tell you to fucuk off elsewhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontoon_%28card_game%29

If you can convince 6 other friends to follow that chart and you guys just pau one table and share out the winnings and losses later, you might actually beat house odds...maybe... hmm.gif
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post May 30 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(blueblueoutofblue @ May 30 2014, 12:38 PM)
RWS
He bet minimun SGD25... then, suddenly, SGD1K and he won!!

he can consecutively win 10 in a row, by that time, he already bet SGD2.5K to SGD5k / hand...

and, he's crazy as he is, he stand on 17, i donno whether pure luck or by his own card calculation, he hit.. and he put an A, while dealer 1st card is K, then put a 2 and then a picture XD.. everyone shouting~~ that bet he put SGD5K.. the max bet XD
if he didn't pull that A , dealer would have get Pontoon...

so, i can say, bravo, GODLIKE~~~
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Until the manager of the Casino came down with several security , reason? TOO MANY CROWD surround him and see him play, which, the manager advice him to stop playing.. haha XD

genting always like that one.
then,the young man got angry or not?
is it many auntie follow his bet?
pontoon can follow on a person bet right?
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post May 30 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ May 30 2014, 01:07 PM)
The wiki article on Pontoon has a strategy chart on how to play. Australian casinos allow you to refer to it. Malaysian casino will tell you to fucuk off elsewhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontoon_%28card_game%29

If you can convince 6 other friends to follow that chart and you guys just pau one table and share out the winnings and losses later, you might actually beat house odds...maybe... hmm.gif
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Malaysian casino will tell you to fucuk off elsewhere.


do u try before?bring the chart inside to casino?
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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 30 2014, 01:29 PM)
Malaysian casino will tell you to fucuk off elsewhere.
do u try before?bring the chart inside to casino?
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I don't really gamble much as a rule in a casino simply because I understand the house odds.

Actually, I am inclined to play some slot machine. I know it has very bad odds but it also allows really small bets (2 cents minimum) so its a great way to kill some time while I'm up there. I was in the casino during maintenance and I have a rough idea of the machine earnings. Last time I looked which was about 10 years ago, each machine earned the casino about RM4k per day. Yes, only 4k because they also have to payout winnings or people won't play anymore.

Aside from that, I play mahjong and poker with friends. Lose also, its money going between each other so no biggie.
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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 30 2014, 01:29 PM)
Until the manager of the Casino came down with several security , reason? TOO MANY CROWD surround him and see him play, which, the manager advice him to stop playing.. haha XD

genting always like that one.
then,the young man got angry or not?
is it many auntie follow his bet?
pontoon can follow on a person bet right?
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Yeah, many auntie follow him, and many auntie keep asked him to stop go home coz won so much already... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(arubin @ May 30 2014, 01:40 PM)
I don't really gamble much as a rule in a casino simply because I understand the house odds.

Actually, I am inclined to play some slot machine. I know it has very bad odds but it also allows really small bets (2 cents minimum) so its a great way to kill some time while I'm up there. I was in the casino during maintenance and I have a rough idea of the machine earnings. Last time I looked which was about 10 years ago, each machine earned the casino about RM4k per day. Yes, only 4k because they also have to payout winnings or people won't play anymore.

Aside from that, I play mahjong and poker with friends. Lose also, its money going between each other so no biggie.
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oh,u are ex-slot machine technician.

so do u win big jackpoon slot? rclxms.gif


is it a person put in 20k,slot machine will pay out 1k to the next person?
can u share the trend?


The outcome is NOT affected by:

How long it's been since the last jackpot.
Pressing the button vs. pulling the lever, or vice-versa.
Whether your slot card is inserted.
The day of the week or time of day. (Casinos don't constantly change returns.)
Whether there's a convention in town. (See previous.)
Whether the coins are hot.
Anything else you could think of. The stops are chosen randomly, period. There's is no mystery. It's just random, just like every other casino game.


Odds of hitting a slot machine jackpot
A common mistake is to reason that if a bunch of machines all cost $0.75 to play, you might as well choose the one with the biggest jackpot, because that will be the best deal for your $0.75. This misses a few important things:

The bigger the jackpot, the harder it is to actually hit.
Among flat-tops (machines without a meter which keeps going up), the overall odds are generally similar no matter how high the jackpot is.
The higher the jackpot, the more likely you'll lose in the short-term. It takes a lot of play to fund those extra-big jackpots.
The machines with the huge jackpots like Wheel of Fortune and Megabucks have lousy odds. Not just for getting the jackpot, but for the small pays, too. Yes, they cost the same amount to play as regular machines, but they definitely suck your money away faster.
To have the best chance of winning in the short term, choose the machines with the smallest jackpots.

This post has been edited by PLOUFFLE: May 30 2014, 01:48 PM
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post May 30 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 30 2014, 01:46 PM)
oh,u are ex-slot machine technician.

so do u win big jackpoon slot? rclxms.gif
is it a person put in 20k,slot machine will pay out 1k to the next person?
can u share the trend?
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Lol not technician lar. I just happened to be there in the wee hours of the morning. Could not sleep, nothing better to do in Genting at 4/5AM (well, got but I only act hamsap brows.gif but dun really like to cheong wan sweat.gif ) so I went down to casino to feed some coins into the slots. This woman came by with a key and started opening up each machine and they showed this blue screen with total money earned and total paid out. The machine next to mine (she bypassed me cos still playing) said something which was more or less ~$20k collected and ~$16k paid out. Money paid in and paid out can differ widely between each machine depending on popularity but based on the small sample I looked at, the difference between in and out averaged out to be about RM4k per machine.

Now that I think about it, it was prolly more of an audit than maintenance...

Edit: Note that I was in the cheap section of the casino with 2 cents and 5 cents minimum bets. I imagine the other machines with higher minimum bets take in more and might have more different payout ratios.

This post has been edited by arubin: May 30 2014, 02:02 PM
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post May 30 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 30 2014, 11:41 AM)
oh,when u buy nnchip program,u will able to enter ir room.

unless u buy a nnchip program or a person with a silver/gold/platinum card bring u to enter,
u will not able to enter ir room with a red card.
Privileges of silver / gold card / platinum card  --

Access to International Gaming Room (IR) and invitation of 2 guests to join the cardholder.
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Thanks bro. Was pretty angry why they have to give me nn chips. Wasting my time going sic bo table betting big and small together just to change the chips to normal chip. they open triple then goodbye to my chips.
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post May 31 2014, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Nub! @ May 30 2014, 04:23 PM)
Thanks bro. Was pretty angry why they have to give me nn chips. Wasting my time going sic bo table betting big and small together just to change the chips to normal chip. they open triple then goodbye to my chips.
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because thay want your money mah.

last time when you buy nnchips premium program?

is it still same benefits compare to now?
below is benefit of now.

Premium Programs
高级配套

1.RM 3,000 OR RM 6,000 Package / RM 3,000 或RM 6,000配套


•Front Money: RM 3,000 OR RM 6,000 (applicable on Low,Shoulder & Peak Seasons)
定金: RM 3,000 或RM 6,000 (可用于 淡季,中旺季,旺季)

•Non-negotiable chips / credits equivalent to front money
泥码 /总值相等于定金
•One (01) room one (01) night’s stay at Maxims Hotel / Resort
Hotel
一房一夜住宿于Maxims酒店 / 名胜酒店
•Two(02) combo meal at VIP Restaurant
两份套餐于贵宾餐厅
•Concert Dollar worth RM 150
演唱会现金卷价值 RM 150
•Silver GRC accorded to the participant
授予参与者云尊银卡会员
•Gaming at VIP Pit 72
娱乐在72号贵宾娱乐城




2.RM 9,000 Package / RM 9,000配套

•Front Money:RM 9,000 (applicable on Super Peak Season only)
定金:RM 9,000(只限用于超旺季)
•Non-negotiable chips / credits equivalent to front money
泥码 /总值相等于定金
•One (01) room one (01) night’s stay at Maxims Hotel / Resort
Hotel
一房一夜住宿于Maxims酒店 / 名胜酒店
•Two(02) combo meal at VIP Restaurant
两份套餐于贵宾餐厅
•Concert Dollar worth RM 150
演唱会现金卷价值 RM 150
•Silver GRC accorded to the participant
授予参与者云尊银卡会员
•Gaming at VIP Pit 72
娱乐在72号贵宾娱乐城



u should play baccarat.at least not lost all your money.
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post Jun 1 2014, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ May 31 2014, 04:51 PM)
because thay want your money mah.

last time when you buy nnchips premium program?

is it still same benefits compare to now?
below is benefit of now.

Premium Programs
高级配套

1.RM 3,000 OR RM 6,000 Package / RM 3,000 或RM 6,000配套
•Front Money: RM 3,000 OR RM 6,000 (applicable on Low,Shoulder & Peak Seasons)
定金: RM 3,000 或RM 6,000 (可用于 淡季,中旺季,旺季)

•Non-negotiable chips / credits equivalent to front money
泥码 /总值相等于定金
•One (01) room one (01) night’s stay at Maxims Hotel / Resort
Hotel
一房一夜住宿于Maxims酒店 / 名胜酒店
•Two(02) combo meal at VIP Restaurant
两份套餐于贵宾餐厅
•Concert Dollar worth RM 150
演唱会现金卷价值 RM 150
•Silver GRC accorded to the participant
授予参与者云尊银卡会员
•Gaming at VIP Pit 72
娱乐在72号贵宾娱乐城
2.RM 9,000 Package / RM 9,000配套

•Front Money:RM 9,000 (applicable on Super Peak Season only)
定金:RM 9,000(只限用于超旺季)
•Non-negotiable chips / credits equivalent to front money
泥码 /总值相等于定金
•One (01) room one (01) night’s stay at Maxims Hotel / Resort
Hotel
一房一夜住宿于Maxims酒店 / 名胜酒店
•Two(02) combo meal at VIP Restaurant
两份套餐于贵宾餐厅
•Concert Dollar worth RM 150
演唱会现金卷价值 RM 150
•Silver GRC accorded to the participant
授予参与者云尊银卡会员
•Gaming at VIP Pit 72
娱乐在72号贵宾娱乐城
u should play baccarat.at least not lost all your money.
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Baccarat pay half when dealer win by 6
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post Jun 1 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Nub! @ Jun 1 2014, 01:00 AM)
Baccarat pay half when dealer win by 6
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No Commission Baccarat /mini baccarat
In addition, players have the option to play "No Commission Baccarat" game at designated tables along with proper signage displayed.

All winning "Banker" bets shall be paid even money with one EXCEPTION when the "Banker" side wins on total points of 6, the winning "Banker" bets shall be paid 50% rate of the amount betted. (For example: RM100 winning "Banker" bet shall be paid RM50).


that one is mini baccarat.



baccarat disadvantages for us is only---
For bets won on the Banker side, the House takes a commission of 5% on each betting.


last time the promotion of nnchip is still same as now?

below is benefit of now.

Premium Programs
高级配套

1.RM 3,000 OR RM 6,000 Package / RM 3,000 或RM 6,000配套
•Front Money: RM 3,000 OR RM 6,000 (applicable on Low,Shoulder & Peak Seasons)
定金: RM 3,000 或RM 6,000 (可用于 淡季,中旺季,旺季)

•Non-negotiable chips / credits equivalent to front money
泥码 /总值相等于定金
•One (01) room one (01) night’s stay at Maxims Hotel / Resort
Hotel
一房一夜住宿于Maxims酒店 / 名胜酒店
•Two(02) combo meal at VIP Restaurant
两份套餐于贵宾餐厅
•Concert Dollar worth RM 150
演唱会现金卷价值 RM 150
•Silver GRC accorded to the participant
授予参与者云尊银卡会员
•Gaming at VIP Pit 72
娱乐在72号贵宾娱乐城
2.RM 9,000 Package / RM 9,000配套

•Front Money:RM 9,000 (applicable on Super Peak Season only)
定金:RM 9,000(只限用于超旺季)
•Non-negotiable chips / credits equivalent to front money
泥码 /总值相等于定金
•One (01) room one (01) night’s stay at Maxims Hotel / Resort
Hotel
一房一夜住宿于Maxims酒店 / 名胜酒店
•Two(02) combo meal at VIP Restaurant
两份套餐于贵宾餐厅
•Concert Dollar worth RM 150
演唱会现金卷价值 RM 150
•Silver GRC accorded to the participant
授予参与者云尊银卡会员
•Gaming at VIP Pit 72
娱乐在72号贵宾娱乐城
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QUOTE(arubin @ May 30 2014, 02:01 PM)
Lol not technician lar. I just happened to be there in the wee hours of the morning. Could not sleep, nothing better to do in Genting at 4/5AM (well, got but I only act hamsap brows.gif  but dun really like to cheong wan sweat.gif ) so I went down to casino to feed some coins into the slots. This woman came by with a key and started opening up each machine and they showed this blue screen with total money earned and total paid out. The machine next to mine (she bypassed me cos still playing) said something which was more or less ~$20k collected and ~$16k paid out. Money paid in and paid out can differ widely between each machine depending on popularity but based on the small sample I looked at, the difference between in and out averaged out to be about RM4k per machine.

Now that I think about it, it was prolly more of an audit than maintenance...

Edit: Note that I was in the cheap section of the casino with 2 cents and 5 cents minimum bets. I imagine the other machines with higher minimum bets take in more and might have more different payout ratios.
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Edit: Note that I was in the cheap section of the casino with 2 cents and 5 cents minimum bets. I imagine the other machines with higher minimum bets take in more and might have more different payout ratios.


where are u play?
at starworld casino,first world plaza?
last time i play at hollywood casino,minimum bet is 0.15 i think.
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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Jun 1 2014, 11:07 AM)
Edit: Note that I was in the cheap section of the casino with 2 cents and 5 cents minimum bets. I imagine the other machines with higher minimum bets take in more and might have more different payout ratios.
where are u play?
at starworld casino,first world plaza?
last time i play at hollywood casino,minimum bet is 0.15 i think.
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I can't remember but it was the main casino which is accessible from Highlands Hotel. Mind you, this was over 10 years ago. They might have upped the minimum bet by now. I wouldn't know as I haven't been in the casino again since.
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QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 1 2014, 12:07 PM)
I can't remember but it was the main casino which is accessible from Highlands Hotel. Mind you, this was over 10 years ago. They might have upped the minimum bet by now. I wouldn't know as I haven't been in the casino again since.
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oh,no wonder u said put some coin into slot.
now only can put banknote into slot.

1)Do you still remember the minimum bet of table games?
now is rm10.

2)why after that u never go to casino?
lost a lot?

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