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This post has been edited by gspirit01: May 13 2014, 02:45 PM

.double post.

This post has been edited by gspirit01: May 13 2014, 02:44 PM

Excellent point.

exactly. stagnant 2.10 to 1.50 to 1.60, i'm sure francis have to do something about it. and the time is about now :/ call me a speculator but i would like to think this way

worth a buy? with the current divvy yeild is around 2% while the growth of company is really really stagnant. so i really don't know. from a TA point of view, probably will buy if a breakout from 1.70 is seen

currently mid cap and small cap stocks not gaining any investor sight, holding this little so called "gem" might worth the investment

however i don't know what are they going to do with the 12 bil

This post has been edited by spring onion: May 13 2014, 03:00 PM

okay... can show me the method of your 555 book recording also?

Outside now..

You take a lookie at Benalac.

Give me your study on it.

so i heard you are a YTL owner holder as well, what causes you to buy huh?

BENALEC last price 0.98. resistance 1.05, support 0.90

financial wise
2010- na
2011- 56,017
2012- 82,670
2013- 56,017
TTM- 21,xxx

profit has been dropping

revenue was bad at quarter end at 2013-09-30, now in recovering period

healthy asset: liabilities ratio but their differed revenue project was delayed or its their nature of business? they are putting their revenue ahead, isn't it counting the egg before it hatches?

This post has been edited by spring onion: May 13 2014, 03:53 PM

2.10 to 1.50 = fall la.

A fall is a fall... not same as stagnant.

Stagnant means... something like.... 160-170-160 .....

It's ok to speculate one....
speculate is just a word only.....



Yes, there's nothing wrong to speculate what they might do with the 'big cash war chest' they have....

but you have to evaluate yourself how good such a speculation is.

.... and you really need to rid yourself that 12 bil cash mindset... hehe... not healthy... it will only blind your good judgement....
... remember if you view their 'fixed deposits' and 'cash balances'... yes the total is more than 13 billion....
... but if you view back their borrowings,,, their total borrowings (not counting their bonds) is over 18 billion....
... so from that perspective... it's no big deal really... they have the cash but they have lots of borrowings also.

if you ask me... I probably would not call this a 'gem'.

also pay attention to gspirit01's comments.

The liquidity issue.

Remember YTL is a 10.7 billion share company.

This is a big mama share and it will take MUSCLES to move the share....

so if there's not a strong catalyst, it's not going to be easy to push this share up at all.

Good stuff.

You did some digging.

This is what might catch some attention.



see the trading on 6/5......


and this is where some traders/punters let their imagination run wild.... they start thinking....

if this movement is for real.... what if.....

the bigger picture....



..... and what you need to do is to start digging out what's causing the change of sentiments towards this stock...

yes.... the profit track record is in fact terrible....

profits declining since 2012.....
it is indeed terrible.....
Poor fundamentals....

ok... last quarterly profits was decent (is this a turnaround?) .....

but that's about it....

so what's causing change of sentiments towards this stock?




can you dig?


ps: I have zero position in this stock.

Hahahaha...

Erm. One fateful day, came back to office around 445pm. Nothing do to and I take a look at klci components. Saw YTL. Click click checking historical price and some general info, followed with a buy before closing.

spring onion

And the reason?

Share buybacks or some pasar traders would describe as 'company goreng sendiri' ...



See the transaction? It started on 6/5

refer to the earlier chart....



See how the volume increased on 6/5?

The active share buybacks from the company is driving the stock higher.


.... and this is what I will call 'an event' (share buybacks) driven trade.





ok.. let me find you a possible 'chart driven' trade.

This post has been edited by Boon3: May 13 2014, 05:56 PM

ok ok. interesting fact i'll dig up later which causes the down turn of this stock

will get back to you later. dinner with family at 7

Just giving you some 'case' stocks for you to look see only.

Here's a 'chart driven' sort of trading.....



See the big jump in volume on 9/5?

This chart event would probably trigger some alert chart traders.

Zooming out...



and out....



.... so what's causing the sudden interest?

Ok, there's one non independent director, Hassan bin Hussain disposing some 1,200,000 shares at 30 sen on 5/5.
This is an off market transaction as the highest traded price on 5/5 was only 26 sen.
Some party was positive enough about the stock to buy the stock 4 sens higher....

Time to dig other info?

Profit track record...

2010 - 1.9 million
2011 - 16.7 million
2012 - 7.8 million
2013 - 17.2 million
ttm - same as 2013...

LOL!

The skeptical perspective?

One year good, one year bad....
would this up-down-up profit trend continue?
How to trust this stock?

The optimistic perspective?
The company had recorded 5 consecutive quarters of positive earnings trend.
Company's profit increased from 7.8 million to 17.2 million.
Fantastic growth.
At 28.5 sen, the company EPS is 2.61 and a pe of 10.92x.


Option for the speculator?

Wait for T+3 and observe how the stock digest that big volume.
If it holds or if it makes a move up, time to jump in?

Your opinion spring onion ?

This post has been edited by Boon3: May 13 2014, 06:49 PM

spring onion .... and how about 'observation based' trading?

too much for one day?

just back from the dinner

ok about benelac

ben was a victim during the correction period, they change their management or the board which causes some unhappiness within the shareholder. furthermore they sold some of their asset. their profit fall short and thus making the share price lower

This post has been edited by spring onion: May 14 2014, 12:15 AM

my opinion, up or down really depends on jones taikor, if he want down, want break is like challenging god. if up then depends on punters. but on T+1 the counter seems unable to support

there is also possibility that the stock may stay stagnant after T+3

7-12 dinner?



Well done!
Keep up being objective when lookie at stocks!
This is the way to go.

There are some traders out there who specializes on T+ trading.
They are pretty good at it too.

On your T+1 observation.
Yes, it was not able to hold support.
But that's normal.
It's part of a healthy pullback for now........
What happens the next 2 days is what's that is important.

And 'Observation based' trading....

This one.....

Ok, currently with KLIA 2 up and running, some are 'seeing' lots of traffic for AirAsia.

More travelers means good business ma.... (Is this observation even valid? )


But then the chart .....





Will you trade it based on this so called observation?

morning huat huat huat