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post Jul 16 2014, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 2 2014, 06:19 AM)
jonchai

Consider this...

Any chance of Zhulian company called X's business, which is doing badly NOW, rebound two years down the road?

vs

Any chance of company B's business, which is growing consistently NOW, continue to grow for another 2 years down the road?
Which sounds better?

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jonchai

Zhulian's profits.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

profit dropped not too little hor.... eps only 1.8 sen.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 16 2014, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 16 2014, 07:08 PM)
Zhulian off my watchlist long long time ago liao ...  biggrin.gif

Now watching E&O fly ... RHB kata 3.6, what you reckon?  brows.gif
I thing I do know is RHB (or should we say OSK Research) is full of tong sampah!

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E&O meh?

No follow Titijaya ah?
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post Jul 16 2014, 07:37 PM

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Ah Leng chai JC,

Chart wise maybe got chance but I reckon stock might see some consolidate before hitting that high.

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post Jul 16 2014, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 16 2014, 07:50 PM)
No cash to follow titi o  cry.gif

My own TP is 3.5. Once hit, no care, cut and go. More than 30% liao  brows.gif
All the best and congratulations for being so patient.

Just for your info, I do not use such strategy (ie setting a % profit target) but if it works for you, then good la. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 16 2014, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 16 2014, 07:45 PM)
I dont look at their analysis because i knew in the first place that their analysis ia full of sh!t. haha..
learn from ah boon better!  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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don't say like that la....

you need to learn yourself, that's always the best.

Never rely on others. tongue.gif

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post Jul 16 2014, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Tripod @ Jul 16 2014, 08:03 PM)

boon, wanna ask u about high NTA's in some plantation counters.

are they worth buying?

i see some counters...their current price is less then their NTA by almost half.

heart big..heart small on whether wanna make the purchase or not  icon_question.gif
Ah Tripod, don't use seefood word here la.... ok? icon_rolleyes.gif

Plantation.... firstly, this is one area I am no good at. sweat.gif

Why some plantation NTA high?

I can think of simple reasons....

for example, some planters have huge land bank.... translating into valuable 'asset'.....

agree?

but then.... not all plantation land will be the same....

for example...

Land value. The value of the land will depends on the location of the land. Agree?
if the land is closer to, say some highways, I would guess that the plantation land will be expensive, valuable.

But what good is the land value?
For a plantation stock, most important is we want profits.
It is not much use to the shareholder if the plantation has lots of land and plenty of old, old trees left.....

there are so much other issues to consider....

there's one person who is very good in all this, iegark but unfortunately I have no idea what has happened.... sad.gif

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post Jul 16 2014, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Jul 16 2014, 08:20 PM)
After today's closing, sort of like cup and handle being formed.
Ah reboot... biggrin.gif

Today's closing was much nicer for Gadang considering the dramatic mini breakdown of the stock from its tight trading range early in the month.

Last quarterly profit, Gadang had a strong run up just before its quarterly profit announcement.
Are we going to see a repeat?
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Err... cawan meh?
Which part of the chart looks like the cup? rolleyes.gif

*haiayaaah.... cannot log in to my trading platform... sad.gif sad.gif
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post Jul 16 2014, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Jul 16 2014, 08:39 PM)
How about Tebrau?  drool.gif
Waaa... a tipsy from CP88!!!!!

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post Jul 16 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 16 2014, 09:00 PM)
Boon, how about property stock? can I solely depend on NTA? i also take into account the GDV to estimate the future profits/cash flows.


Why, why, why..... like so much NTA????

NTA can be so misleading....

( and since it can be misleading, I really don't depend on this silly yardstick)

Sometimes when market is hot, you see some unscrupulous folks using this yardstick to sell the stock.
And most of the time, it is done when the said stock doesn't have much earnings to show for. tongue.gif

Back to property stocks.

Simple REAL example....

Let me ask you. LOL!
Which property stock .....
got plenty, plenty and plenty of land ( = high NTA)
but then ....
the company very conservative....
one year (maybe two) only do one housing project........
which means....
despite great balance sheet ( tons of cash), huge landbank ..... but lousy profit.

Worth investing?

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post Jul 16 2014, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Jul 16 2014, 09:11 PM)
Flat 1.85 area is because someone fix the price / to match private placement 1.68, haha...
without that area, thats cawan lor.
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YES!

red is it? tongue.gif

Yup, the 185 area coincided with the price fixing of the placement shares...
but what happened once the price of the placement shares was announced... sucks!
Share price broke down.... tongue.gif
I believe quite a number of people did not like that all....

LOL! cannot say without the flat area .... that's the cawan la......

and then, where's the handle? tongue.gif


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post Jul 16 2014, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Jul 16 2014, 09:26 PM)
In the making...
LOL
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Are you sure you want the handle?
Are you sure you would love a handle being formed?

Some handles sees the stock falling quite a fair bit one..... tongue.gif

hehe.. let me guess, you gonna tell me .....
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post Jul 16 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 16 2014, 10:01 PM)
totally not worth to invest despite having tons of cash and huge landbank if the company has lousy profits. haha..

I evaluate based on the NTA of the property stock and then I look at the net profits, increasing year to year, just like what you always mentioned.

I also look at their future housing projects, Gross Development Value in the coming years. make sure that their have future projects to be launched and making constant growth in profits.

back to ur question, i really dont know which lousy property stock that u mentioned. haha.. sweat.gif
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If you don't know...
means you haven't look c look c the stock yet.

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post Jul 16 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 16 2014, 10:04 PM)
lazy to look c look c.  blush.gif  blush.gif pls tell me the answer then i go look c look c, kaji a bit.  rolleyes.gif
What you don't see won't hurt you. tongue.gif

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post Jul 17 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jul 17 2014, 08:17 PM)
where is ah boon? missing too? have not reveal answer le sad.gif
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Ah Hong I curi tulang ma............. tongue.gif

Answer? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

That one is not a tip ma..... laugh.gif
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post Jul 17 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Razer.Ken @ Jul 17 2014, 09:01 PM)
SAPRES keeps dropping. sad.gif
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Ah Ken.....

*scratching hair* ...... dunno what's happening....... huh.gif unsure.gif blink.gif

errr.... why you even buy?
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post Jul 17 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Razer.Ken @ Jul 17 2014, 09:46 PM)
Errrrrr..... Cause I read Bonescythe's blog and it seems like a good potential.
Oh....... wink.gif




Just curious, did you do any research yourself? or you just trust what's being written?







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post Jul 17 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Razer.Ken @ Jul 17 2014, 10:19 PM)
Honestly I did some but i'm still very new in this. sad.gif

So what do you think? Just cut loss?
Ah Ken...

Some things you should know...

I do NOT give advice simply because I am not an adviser.

ok?

So I am in no position to advice you to cut or hold. wink.gif


Secondly. I do not read his postings.
So I am not sure what's being written.

However, as far as I am concerned, I do not think much of this stock because I find the catalyst to buy the stock lacking. But that's me. My style is different than most.


ok?
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jul 17 2014, 11:15 PM)
boon, buying based catalysis might be slow as many speculator will whack up the stock before the official news is out, so still good to chase a stock even it's has been goreng by them? long term gain is still not an issue ( although lower margin expected ) but how about short term like 3-6 months?

btw, malton, looks like 1.10 is a major resistance, if break 1.12 possible to limit up? cause i don't see any catalyst like elsoft leh rclxub.gif

btw, hevea is looking good ya. in my 555 list now. let's see how far can it go brows.gif
Ah late hantu show up again.... LOL!

Quote: "buying based catalysis might be slow as many speculator will whack up the stock before the official news is out, so still good to chase a stock even it's has been goreng by them? "

Errr.... chasing the stock is one thing but understanding reality is another.

As it is, you let me, what's driving its profits?
some mon
That's current.
I looked it, I see peanuts earnings.
Pathetic. *sorry ah... blunt reply*
If things don't change, at best we see a company making some 1 million plus profits per quarter.
Oh... wait... NTA is supposed to be high. doh.gif
I stated many times in recent postings, NTA is a no for me.
A company can be asset rich...
but there are many reasons why the rich asset might not benefit the shareholder.

Future? What's the future catalyst?
I have no idea.
I am a trader.
I do not like to trade what I do not know..
and neither do I like to trade based on hearsay.

So would I chase a stock like this?
LOL!
Sorry I do not trade blind.
That's not my style la.

Sorry was not looking at malton recently.
My trading platform doesn't seem to work after hours past two days.... grrr.... sad.gif
Therefor I cannot comment much on malton.

Hevea? LOL!
Nope.
This stock is trading way too loosely.
I do not have the skills to trade such stocks ler....
To be honest, it's no longer in any of my stock watch......... hehe....

ok late laaa.....

I need to go see Uncle Chow and chit chat. LOL!




ooops.... damn! ..... another mas plane went down......
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jul 17 2014, 11:47 PM)
aiyo, cannot get what you mean la by catalyst till now. need some sifu to teach me in my dreams tonight laugh.gif anyway, good night
watching news...

looks like a mas plane was shot down ..... ohmy.gif

so sad...... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif



catalyst?
a company making constant good profits growth is one form of a catalyst.
it's something that seduces others to buy the stock.
A company making more and more money each quarter will likely see buyers buying cos of the profit growth.
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post Jul 18 2014, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 18 2014, 01:08 AM)
U don't fly over a warzone that just downed 2-3 military jets over the past few days doh.gif
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Sigh!!!

Why need to put until like this?
Other airlines was using the same route around the same time.

http://www.ibtimes.com/downed-malaysia-fli...when-it-1631804

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