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 Bursa Traders V5

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jerrychoo2004
post May 5 2014, 03:18 PM

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hahahaha buy everything by jerrychoo2004.....nice one ^^
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fuiyo portfolio all red rclxms.gif
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post May 5 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 5 2014, 04:29 PM)
fuiyo portfolio all red rclxms.gif
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Got heart attack type of red or not..
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post May 5 2014, 04:47 PM

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now at least i got several stock in my watch list. homer,malton, L&G,hovid... see which 1 cannot tahan tomorrow go grab it

fitters damn bloody red today
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post May 5 2014, 08:09 PM

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wow.. today market red and I'm so busy to monitor... hope tomorrow got chance to top up homer.. hehe... then sports break for couple of months tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 08:09 PM)
wow.. today market red and I'm so busy to monitor... hope tomorrow got chance to top up homer.. hehe... then sports break for couple of months tongue.gif
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Pray for more bloodshed and get it even cheaper... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 5 2014, 08:48 PM)
Pray for more bloodshed and get it even cheaper...  rclxms.gif
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hmm.gif that depends... today star newspaper somemore try to say this week could be instead be high point of bursa... not the 'sell in may and get away' doh.gif
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post May 6 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 09:13 PM)
hmm.gif  that depends... today star newspaper somemore try to say this week could be instead be high point of bursa... not the 'sell in may and get away'  doh.gif
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media do really influence the public perception of the current situation

look at utusan, there are still many are believing and support them whistling.gif
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post May 6 2014, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 5 2014, 09:13 PM)
hmm.gif  that depends... today star newspaper somemore try to say this week could be instead be high point of bursa... not the 'sell in may and get away'  doh.gif
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Yikes!

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May I ask again what's the big deal about 'sell in May.... ' ???

Has it even proven to be a right strategy?

Have you done your homework and concluded that this is a great strategy to rely on?

OK, I am not going to prove you are right or wrong... but let me just throw in few pictures.

And you try to think the reliability of such a strategy.

Point is, in the market, never trust anyone but your ownself.

2012.

user posted image

Comment: Market DID PLUNGE but only in mid May. (14 May)
However, as quickly as it dropped (it dropped close to 56 pts. sweat.gif ), the market rebounded STRONGLY in May itself.
The drastic plunge happened from 14 May to 18 May.
4 days only.
Market rallied from 21 May onwards.
By 19 Jun, the market was actually higher than May.
KLCI's May high was 1590.
KLCI closed 2012 at 1681.
Market rallied 155 points from May lowest. of 1526.

Sell in May, did it work? rolleyes.gif

I could stop right here.
All it takes is one wrong to disapprove the theory....

Here is 2013.

user posted image

Sell in May?

hard to see off hand.
CI ended 2 May 2013 at 1723.
Closed end May 2013 at 1769.

market ended May much higher!!! rolleyes.gif
Market only had a correction end June and another bigger one at end Aug.

Sell in May, did it work? rolleyes.gif


Now I do one extra.
I just simply chincai choose PBank.

Now imagine if one just blindly follow Sell in May strategy.

This is the chart of PBank for that period in May 2013.

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And this is the bigger picture of PBank.

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If investor buta-buta sell in May, the investor would have gotten around 16++ for Pbank.

End of last year, PBank closed at 19++.

And the 16++ 'was'' not been seen again for PBank for 2013.......... rolleyes.gif

Sell in May and go away......... ????


You decide yourself if this is a good or bad strategy???

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post May 6 2014, 08:36 AM

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I know, it's impossible to explain.

Somehow this 'sell in may' thing is so like them PONG SWAY charts....

no matter what the actual data shows.... many prefer to believe in such stiff.

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post May 6 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 30 2014, 08:49 AM)
let me show you this of VIS.... tongue.gif

This was Monday's chart...

user posted image

Volume incredibly well orchestrated, right?
Volume maintained consistently high....
err... left hand jual right hand ... right hand jual right leg... right leg jual left leg... left leg jual right left hand...
lol

now if we look at the left side of the chart...

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or the zoom in are of the left side....

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we can clearly see that VIS is a bloody TARAK laku stock....

then suddenly all the volume came in beautifully orchestrated....  rolleyes.gif
now thanks to Monday's drama minggu ini plunge..... suddenly VIS became laku. doh.gif

from 20 sen to even 30 sen....

LOL! stock were sold at prices that weren't possible in 2013.
what do they say about stock distribution again?
are they distributed on the way up or down?  rolleyes.gif 
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Vis again... LOL!

Updated chart:

user posted image

Do you see what I see?

LOL!

Volume speaks a lot....

Ok, for every transaction there's a buyer and there's a seller.

Sometimes... many likes to view things from the buyer perspective....

They only want to see the positive side of things....

Yes, being positive is very important in life but for stocks, with many sharks around, you better see things more openly.....

What's important from that chart is the 2nd day.

The first sell down or limit down, the volume traded was rather low.

Yes, it did not take much effort to push the stock down.

* Now if put that sentence into a bigger perspective, remember the point where VIS was trending much higher on CONSISTENTLY high volume. Now if all those volume equals to actual demand of the stock, ie if the demand of the stock was 'real', then once the stock gives way, you would expect all the previous demand for the stock would come alive and support the stock immediately. It did not happen!!! *

The volume data in numbers is much easier to see.

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On 25 April, Vis closed at 77 sen.
Volume done was 10,541,000

next day, Vis went limit down.
Volume done was only 3,161,400.

Volume done was only about 1/3 of its previous day volume.
Why did the 'demand' of the stock suddenly disappear?

Then the biggest tell tale sign of distribution came on the next day.
Volume done was 107,877,200 million!!!

Volume increased 34 times!
34 times!!!

Would be buyers (or those with position) would use the buyer perspective to describe this 'unusual' event.
They would argue that buyers came in to support the stock.
Stock dropped from 77 sen wor...
Now 22+ sen, surely buyers see value....... LOL!

Now what about sellers perspective?
No matter who was buying....
the other point is...............................................
many shares were disposed!!!!!

remember this chart?

user posted image

see 2012 and just before the orchestrated volume in 2013....

Vis WAS a coma stock.
hardly any volume.
Traded share price was around 14-15 sen only!

think of this scenario....
coma stock, no volume.....
Sharkie orchestrate it with artificial trading...
push the stock to 77 sen.....
and then suddenly pull the floor out.....
stock crashes....
many come in think ... got value.... High 77 sen, now 25 sen... value.. value... value..... doh.gif
then sharkie dump like hell .........
what's the average price you dump? ( say 25 sen? )......

Possible?


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post May 6 2014, 09:18 AM

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i think IT stock may go up like DGSB, VIS, Censof, Myeg, Mpay etc related
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post May 6 2014, 09:35 AM

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morning all yawn.gif

probably another coma day for my holding again hmm.gif
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Go go homer.. topped up some yday smile.gif
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post May 6 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 08:30 AM)

Sell in May and go away......... ????
You decide yourself if this is a good or bad strategy???

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Be a contrarian! Be different! tongue.gif
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post May 6 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:38 AM)
Go go homer.. topped up some yday smile.gif
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things need to be careful when so many ppl here have homer.... like everyone here owns 30%???
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:38 AM)
Go go homer.. topped up some yday smile.gif
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so "pok" meh brows.gif ?


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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:38 AM)
Be a contrarian! Be different! tongue.gif
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YES!
Sometimes it can work...... tongue.gif
Sometimes.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

contrarian play not easy...
it's like fighting against everyone all the time...
balls of steel.... sweat.gif

if it works out... great.... you damn genius la wei !!! thumbup.gif
if it fails..... err... people will say to you..... why you so stubborn and simply fight the market ah? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 09:40 AM)
things need to be careful when so many ppl here have homer.... like everyone here owns 30%???
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Alot of us have homer meh? Very few only, like us loh in low yat forum lol
it's an unloved stock. Even analysts are ignoring it, nobody wants to even give it a look tongue.gif

QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 6 2014, 09:45 AM)
so "pok" meh  brows.gif ?
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0.755, small lots only...

QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 6 2014, 09:46 AM)
contrarian play not easy...
it's like fighting against everyone all the time...
balls of steel....  sweat.gif

if it works out... great.... you damn genius la wei !!!  thumbup.gif
if it fails..... err... people will say to you..... why you so stubborn and simply fight the market ah? tongue.gif
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playing it safe too, no sell, no buy.. except for yesterday smile.gif
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 6 2014, 09:52 AM)
Alot of us have homer meh? Very few only, like us loh in low yat forum lol
it's an unloved stock. Even analysts are ignoring it, nobody wants to even give it a look tongue.gif
0.755, small lots only...
playing it safe too, no sell, no buy.. except for yesterday smile.gif
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all prefer Latitude cry.gif

small lots = 1000 lots brows.gif

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