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woonsc
post Aug 26 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(dosnx @ Aug 26 2014, 09:59 AM)
hi, what is the connection between PAR value and stock price.
some stock par value is 0.10, but the price is currently trading at 0.50
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IPO price and current price
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 26 2014, 10:03 AM)
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Ah, I believe those earlier comments I made on Ah Ben was for you.

Actually like I said before, most can see that there is the so called potential for Ah Ben.
But reality do matters. wink.gif

Despite all those potentials, Ah Ben has so far failed to deliver.
This is a point, you need to consider.

Danger in stock market is that one might always anchor their believes/hopes on potential and most of the time, this is done overly and runs the risk of stubbornness in a trader/investor.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Yeap I agree.

I sold mine before today also because of what you said about the market knows beforehand about the results.
I had expected this as well.
Incur losses but in the longer term I think Benalec will still be able to fare well.

Might jump in if the price is right

What do you think ah?
TSBoon3
post Aug 26 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(jyeong89 @ Aug 26 2014, 10:20 AM)
Yeap I agree.

I sold mine before today also because of what you said about the market knows beforehand about the results.
I had expected this as well.
Incur losses but in the longer term I think Benalec will still be able to fare well.

Might jump in if the price is right

What do you think ah?
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I dunno but I would probably want to see some positive developments.
jonchai
post Aug 26 2014, 10:55 AM

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Boon gor ah Boon gor, any tipsy? Now got free funds on hand, don't have any idea what to buy 😃

Shopping mode is on
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Aug 26 2014, 10:55 AM)
Boon gor ah Boon gor, any tipsy? Now got free funds on hand, don't have any idea what to buy 😃

Shopping mode is on
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I want funds...buy my Apollo...I wanna dump

Wait u at 5.24 tongue.gif

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post Aug 26 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Aug 26 2014, 10:55 AM)
Boon gor ah Boon gor, any tipsy? Now got free funds on hand, don't have any idea what to buy 😃

Shopping mode is on
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LOL!!!!!

Ah Leng Chai JC.

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post Aug 26 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 26 2014, 10:56 AM)
I want funds...buy my Apollo...I wanna dump

Wait u at 5.24 tongue.gif
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Okay, queue there 😊
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Aug 26 2014, 10:59 AM)
Okay, queue there 😊
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Sure or not tongue.gif
dosnx
post Aug 26 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 26 2014, 10:19 AM)
IPO price and current price
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thank you. i tot that par value = fair value
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:17 AM

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brows.gif parkson boleh pecah 3.2 convincingly? tongue.gif
Razer.Ken
post Aug 26 2014, 12:52 PM

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HEVEA sudah gerak!
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post Aug 26 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Razer.Ken @ Aug 26 2014, 12:52 PM)
HEVEA sudah gerak!
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http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1720833
Hevea second Q is out !!!
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post Aug 26 2014, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Aug 26 2014, 11:17 AM)
brows.gif parkson boleh pecah 3.2 convincingly? tongue.gif
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Parkson close 3.13. tongue.gif

This one would be a good case study for you.
Parkson just post profit results.
Decline again. sweat.gif

.... which means...... drum roll...... 8 consecutive quarters of declining profits.

........ which means........ recent share price run....... is going against profit trend......

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post Aug 26 2014, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2014, 08:50 AM)
The nice story....  biggrin.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Investi...ovid-FV-46-sen/

The fine line....

They say 46 sen because "RHB Research ascribed a 17.0 times fully diluted calendar year 2015 earnings per share, at a discount to the 18.9 times average of its peers."

Sounds innocent. tongue.gif

The finer line.... whistling.gif
CAGR is not something like you dump into the wok and start frying....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

It's compounded annual growth...

and in this case ... compounded annual growth for TWO CONSECUTIVE years....

which means HOVID profits must fly from 20 mil to 32.7 mil or an increase of 63.5% over 2 years.

LOL!

This is where they get away with it...

when they RHB write CAGR of 18.5%, ordinary folks thinks 'ok what' , not a bloody fei kei target...

but when it's translated it means a bloody 63.5% increase in profits!!!!


Now put it a much better context when you relate to current prices...

price of Hovid this morning is 41 sen.
RHB says fair value is 46 sen or a 12.2% upside potential....

BUT to achieve this 12.2% upside, HOVID profits must increase 63.5% over the next 2 years!!!

face palm!

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Hovid's current numbers?

2011 - lose money
2012 - 15.6 million profit
2013 - 20.3 million profit
ttm - 19.4 million profit -- huh? decrease wor! (current 9 months profit only 13.7 million - decrease 5%!)

come 2016 - can reach 32 million???

LOL!!!

come 2015 -- do you even remember what RHB wrote about Hovid today???


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Above was taken from post #1513

Hovid's profits came in at 4.64 million. (declined.... sweat.gif )

which means full year profit only 19.464 million.

very the far, far away from RHB numbers.......................... tongue.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 08:37 PM

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Mudajaya..... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

First the bad news.....


http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...284m-in-1h.html

only dropped 68%....

ps: 8 consecutive quarters of declining profits. tongue.gif

no worry be happy cos kaki lang company... decided to lend helping hand..... yeh yeh... left hand help right hand, right hand help left leg, left leg help right leg. laugh.gif

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-associate.html

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post Aug 27 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 26 2014, 09:43 AM)
Ah Ben now 0.925 only ......................... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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shit, plan does not work out sad.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ Aug 26 2014, 07:20 PM)
you got any? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

ok la this stock, i jump in at 1.6X, should be able to cover some loss in ah ben with a few couple of hundred extra for my car insurance and road tax + a cup of coffee bean with friends if it able to hit RM2

soon in my list: YSPsah, after missing out CCMDbio

i hope some guys here will kind enough help me analyze this

Year rev profit eps
TTM 193,476 17,208 12.93
2013-12-31 190,827 16,191 12.17
2012-12-31 180,610 13,628 10.24
2011-12-31 156,773 15,380 13.24
2010-12-31 138,483 12,157 12.16

current PE = 12~14

new accounting which improve sales up to 20+%, this year overall profit should be increase minimum 20% too

Drawback: the price has increased after last quarter report is released

Positive side: health/medical stocks, and growing company with factory are setting up in SEA

This post has been edited by spring onion: Aug 27 2014, 12:28 AM
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post Aug 27 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ Aug 26 2014, 07:20 PM)
Home kuda really, really underperforming now... tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 05:13 PM

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The one chart that says it all................


user posted image



No oil no wok
No wok no cook
No cook no money
No money no honey

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post Aug 27 2014, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 27 2014, 05:13 PM)
The one chart that says it all................
user posted image
No oil no wok
No wok no cook
No cook no money
No money no honey

tongue.gif
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Lai lai some one please cook ah home.

Your Hevea reli power la...

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