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post May 6 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 04:09 PM)
1. they bought a plant in indon.

2. tendency to rebounce from hitting a new low

3. going for new project soon

okay it went back down doh.gif
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On point 2....

There was a gap down last month... Why?
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post May 6 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 04:48 PM)
iinm, the management failed to report something which is important... and they actually sold off some shares too
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I see.

That's not very good development. wink.gif
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post May 6 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 6 2014, 05:40 PM)
dbhd want to have some lots and lots of kfc. interesting show for tomorrow
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Interesting..... tongue.gif

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...c-takeover.html

KUALA LUMPUR (May 6): Damansara Realty Bhd (DBHD) rose as much as 13% on speculation that the firm, which has close links with the Johor royalty, will take over KFC Holdings (Malaysia) Bhd from Johor Corporation (JCorp), dealers said today.

DBHD officials could not be reached for comment.

At 2.57 pm, DBHD jumped 14 sen or 10.6% to RM1.46. The fourth top gainer saw some 9.7 million shares changed hands. It had earlier hit a high of RM1.49.

According to a dealer, DBHD might take over the ‘golden egg’ assets held by JCorp, such as KFC.

Johor businessman Datuk Daing A Malek Daing A Rahaman, who is well connected to the state royalty, has assumed control of DBHD via Seaview Holdings Sdn Bhd.

“We hear market talk that the Sultan of Johor views favourably on DBHD and is willing to inject KFC into the firm,” the dealer told theedgemalaysia.com.


On April 30, DBHD announced to Bursa Malaysia that Seaview had completed its acquisition of 51% of equity in DBHD from JCorp via a share sales agreement.

Daing A Malek is one the shareholders of Seaview.

Meanwhile, another dealer told theedgemalaysia.com that DBHD’s rise among the top gainers today could be due to a technical rebound.

“We think it is a technical rebound, although we have heard JCorp may inject assets into DBHD,” said the dealer over the telephone.


From a technical perspective, Kenanga Research in a note today said DBHD’s immediate support and resistance levels hover at RM1.32 and RM1.58 respectively.

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Wayang kulit time.... laugh.gif

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...ara-realty.html

KUALA LUMPUR (May 6): Johor Corporation Bhd (JCorp) has denied speculations that Damansara Realty Bhd (DBHD) will take over its subsidiary, KFC Holdings (Malaysia) Bhd.

“JCorp is not aware of such proposal and has not solicited any proposal in relation to the mentioned companies,” said the state corporation in an email statement to theedgemalaysia.com.

Earlier today, theedgemalaysia.com reported that DBHD, which has close links with the Johor royalty, rose 13% after the firm was rumoured to take over KFC.

DBHD official could not be reached for comment.

DBHD attracted market attention after Johor businessman Datuk Daing A Malek Daing A Rahaman, who is well connected to the state royalty, assumed control of DBHD via Seaview Holdings Sdn Bhd.
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post May 6 2014, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 05:25 PM)
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post May 6 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 6 2014, 08:05 PM)
this counter like goreng since like 10 years ago... now suddenly given new lease of life
Goreng like 10 years ago meh?

Not 10 years la...

back then was 2007 and now is 2014

So far, then 2007 and now 2014..... very much same..... so far. !!!! sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post May 7 2014, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ May 6 2014, 10:45 AM)
brows.gif hmm.gif Simpson got downtrend line wo. Break downtrend enter, CL below 0.75 boleh? biggrin.gif
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current 'downtrend'..... tongue.gif

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sometimes they say patterns exist....

do they?

this current downtrend happened AFTER Homeriz announced their profits results on 28/4/14

Previous profits was announced on 24/1/14

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.... and yes, a similar downtrend was also noticeable.

Only difference, I would say for the current downtrend, there was already a slight weakness of the stock before the profits were announced.

But betting on patterns is not a sure win strategy.

Sometimes patterns do happen, sometimes they don't. tongue.gif

This is the much bigger picture.

the previous profits were announced on end Oct 2013.

Homeriz went gap up instead. tongue.gif

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So where's my tip? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post May 7 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 7 2014, 11:01 AM)
thomas cup and world cup coming, so coma also trying to beg attention tongue.gif
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what has thomas cup got to do with stock market?

Yeah, you might as well state that puasa month happens during mid of the world cup.


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post May 7 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 7 2014, 11:23 AM)
lol, puasa somemore... everyone coma.. business also coma time  sweat.gif


Yeah and then many are just playing candy crush in the office too!

What market?

LOL!




So funny.
Why don't one just prove conclusively that SELL before the World Cup is one fail proof strategy. whistling.gif
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post May 7 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 11:37 AM)
Not necessarily saying that one should buy or sell. It's just that market may be flat and unexciting because no one is paying much attention to it. cksoon could try to prove it by comparing market transaction volumes with past incidences of major sporting events.
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Point is we ALWAYS hear so many super market advices/theories.

SELL la in May and go holiday....
BUY for CNY rally....
SELL la before World Cup....
BUY la for Raya rally....
BUY la for Santa rally....

LOL!

So many theories.....

my point is?
Has anyone conclusively prove that these theories even work?

Sell in May theory?

I think I posted the 2013 and 2012, KLCI chart.
I even posted one random stock, PBBank.
Did the theory even work? rolleyes.gif

World Cup theory?
I have posted not too long ago the CI charts for the last 3 World Cups.
Did the theory even work?

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Yeah, I think it is better if market players do their own homework, check their own data, before simply listening to advices.


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post May 7 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ May 7 2014, 11:41 AM)
yup, it's just everyone seems to be candy crushing instead. well, I'm dreading as in the past, my business always suffer when it comes to this events and time... puasa... zzzz... business also puasa together.
Thanks for sharing your business experiences.
Yes, sometimes it can be a good indicator.... but .... remember there are always exceptions.

How many people, you know, have complained that business in general has been poor for the Dec-Feb period recently?

I heard many, from different businesses.

But strangely, if you recall the good/lousy profits trend list I posted recently, most companies that reported for that period, actually performed much better than last year. wink.gif

Well..... how would you explain that?


You know, sometimes, observations are just observations.

Sometimes we can see a shop with booming business.
We walk in and we usually see loads of people in the shop.

But can we safely conclude 100% that this is a great profitable business?

We cannot because we do not know the financial standing of the company.
If the company is heavily leveraged, then whatever good business from appearance would be reduced greatly by financial costs.
Or perhaps, the owners have other huge hidden costs from our eyes?
For example, the owners could pay themselves with obscene salaries or the owners simply pass all sort of bills as company expenses.
When that happens, all the profits would be diminished!

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post May 7 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 11:49 AM)

But sometimes people just like to post to talk cock. Otherwise the thread is dull and quiet, like the market is right now. And anyway not all posts must necessarily be advice. It may just be random observations and anecdotes.
Ok. Point noted. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 7 2014, 12:13 PM

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Just to share once again the 2010 KLCI chart. tongue.gif

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Notes....

1. The index dropped a lot in May itself.

2. The market however, rebounded strongly by end May itself.

3. 2010 World Cup started in June. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup

Conclusion?
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post May 7 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 7 2014, 12:16 PM)
Just out of curiosity, do you have to pay for a copy of the ChartNexus software to create those charts? Does it come with full historical data?
I am a cheapskate.
I try to use everything the free way. laugh.gif

My copy is from the trading software provided by my brokerage house, and in this instance, KenMoney.

Jupiter charting is the same, and yes most stocks have full historical data, except for CI.

Yeah... the CI .... doh.gif

I cannot go back to say 2002. doh.gif

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post May 7 2014, 12:21 PM

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Correction... my free cheapo software only provides me to see 10 year data.

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post May 7 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 7 2014, 11:05 PM)
rock this thread abit

homework from boon3. hehe now only free

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macam normal jer hmm.gif

the only thing not normal is last year same quarter result

if you ask me will there be an impressive result this year, i would say so-so
Meh stock ah? tongue.gif

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post May 7 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 7 2014, 11:39 PM)
P/E 16.xx

dividend payout close to 100% last year

dividend yield 6%, based on the current 'trend' capital gain should be slow to moderate. to further analyze this really need this coming report

can justify your thought of skeptical of my 'meh' rating of this counter?
What the stock name? tongue.gif

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post May 7 2014, 11:53 PM

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Jinter ah?
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post May 7 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 7 2014, 11:55 PM)
abo? i thought you quite familiarize already? tongue.gif
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Almost midnight and you think I remember numbers meh? doh.gif

So what is the question, actually?

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Lazy to think la
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post May 8 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 8 2014, 12:01 AM)
the question was about seeing seasonal cycle in business growth... you asked to take a look at this company
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forgot. tongue.gif

well you can see the Q4 results is always much lower, right?

that page, where you took the screen shot, scroll up...
look at the last 5 years profits.
what trend do you see?
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post May 8 2014, 12:08 AM

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Or you can see Carlsberg.
Their Q2 is always much lower than Q1 every year.

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