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yehlai	Oct 24 2006, 10:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #21
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE QUOTE(ddww @ Oct 24 2006, 05:57 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE quote=yehlai,Oct 24 2006, 02:56 PM Hi.. wanna ask overclockers sifu here. my E6300 stock (266x7) idle = 50-51C but when i oc to 2.3Ghz the temp reach 58C-59C idle; 2.8Ghz reach 61-62C idle, load temp is 64-65C. Question: # Aft OC idle temp between 2.3GHz and 2.8GHz are almost the same.. is tht normal?? --> almost the same? its like 10degree different wor. # When 2.8GHz load temp is 65C.. is tht acceptable?? (i worry when it go over 60C) --> my 2.8GHz idling at 55 degree and 65 load from TAT. (closed case + non aircon) did u increase your vcore? # How much vCore should i adding to go beyond 400FSB?? (normal vCore setting for my mobo is 1.32?) --> normal vcore mine can reach 440x7 stable. # How to check my default vCore,vDimm and vMCH?? --> vCore for C2D = 1.325v, DDR2 vDimm = 1.8v, vMCH = 1.3v # I tried to oc my RAM.. i tune [FSB =266]@stock; [RAM multiplier =3] but my pc cant reboot... why this happen?? Even i tried [FSB =300]; [RAM multiplier = 2.5] still cant reboot.. --> did u feed voltage your ram? using intel stock HSF only. using Intel TAT to monitor temp. using 965P-S3 mobo THanks above is just for your reference. does not mean im right and urs got problem. btw, u got on your aircon? @ddww. Thanks for ur reply can help me again...* QUOTE --> almost the same? its like 10degree different wor. But OC to 2.3GHz = 59C; and 2.8GHz = 61C (both idle). Its almost same... I hope can get 2.5GHz at 56C idle so i can running OC 2.5GHz 24/7 QUOTE --> my 2.8GHz idling at 55 degree and 65 load from TAT. (closed case + non aircon) did u increase your vcore? My 2.8GHz idle= 60C and 65C load. from TAT. No aircond, open case and default (normal) vCore. QUOTE --> normal vcore mine can reach 440x7 stable. Wao.. 440 thts nice ler ; me only can reach 405.. i din't adding vCore. (or MCH, vDimm) QUOTE --> vCore for C2D = 1.325v, DDR2 vDimm = 1.8v, vMCH = 1.3v for E6300 also?? Thanks thts help a lot QUOTE --> did u feed voltage your ram? i heavent increase vDimm b4.. i dunno the limit of vCore/vDimm/MCH for E6300. Can u gimme some hint please ddww.. my 2.8GHz idle is 60C.. its higher than your idle 55C.. this is not good.. my proc dissapoint me oh ya.. my house no aircon de. Im using PS-3 mobo, can i show u the OC Bios.. maybe its different from your DS-3 maybe. This is my Bios.. izzit same with DS-3?? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « vDimm have 6 increasement to choose. PCI-E only have +0.1V.. FSB +0.1V to +0.3V i never touch this b4.. Dunno wht is MCH for.. dont dare to touch it Is CPU voltage control = vCore tht u guys mean?? the default is 1.325V ?? so vCore u guys mean is adjust in CPU voltage control?? I need to increase vCore from 1.325V to 1.425V?? My FBS can go until 405x7 only(@stock voltage).. above tht cant reboot. How much vCore should i increase?? How much is the limit?? Thanks This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 25 2006, 12:43 PM
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yehlai	Oct 25 2006, 05:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #22
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE i'll not advise u regarding voltage limit of your hardware because later it burst u'll kill me. S3 and DS3 is somehow the same and i ever read a review saying tat S3 can do better than DS3 in OCing. Thanks ddww .. i think my prob almost solved now.. last nite i flash Bios to F6 vers. Previously i was using F5.. when oc to 2.8GHz idle is 60C.. oc to 2.1GHz idle also 60C .. so disssapointed with the hi temp. But after flash to F6.. things change. Supprised me.. oc to 2.7Ghz idle temp 53-54C only.. but the prob is cant reach 2.8GHz. So i tried +0.1 vDimm. And i found tht +0.1 vDimm can help me reach 29.4GHz(420x7). But still +0.1 vDimm cant go beyond 430x7.. so finnaly i increase to +0.2 vDimm.. Now reach 3.01GHz. Idle 55C.. While doing prime; temp is 65C. (all temp measured under close case, non aircond, stock cooling.) #Dont dare to increase vDimm anymore.. now maximum is +0.2 vDimm. Can go further to +0.3v?? #Should i set vCore, vDimm, vMcH and vFSB manually?? So far i only leave it Auto(Normal) # How much is default vFSB? vCore= 1.325v, vDimm = 1.8v, vMCH = 1.3v rite?? This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 25 2006, 09:21 PM
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yehlai	Oct 25 2006, 09:36 PM Return to original view \| Post #23
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	Overclockers sifu.. > Can anyone tell me the default voltage for vCore, vDimm, vFSB and vMCH for E6300 please?? > When OC do you guys set vCore, vDimm, vFSB, vMCH manually?? or only set vCore Manually (leave vDimm,vFSB, vMCH auto)? > Can i set vCore at 1.3v (lower than default) in order to reduce core temp when oc to 2.8GHz or higher? THANKS This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 25 2006, 09:41 PM
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yehlai	Oct 25 2006, 10:08 PM Return to original view \| Post #24
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Oct 25 2006, 10:00 PM) when i load cpuz while watching movie the movie will lag also ler.... =\ if u can get 2.8GHz at 1.3v stable... why not well when OC it prefably to set all the setting manually.... if u r unsure i suggest u to play with vcore 1st.... U mean +vCore; and set other by mannual default?? Can share with me how u know the limit of vCore can feed? This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 25 2006, 10:08 PM
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 12:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #25
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	Well for non watercooler and w/o 3rd party cooler user like me i will try to adjust the vCore to lowest as possible.. for 2.8Ghz 24/7 my vCore is running 1.275v. Tried 1.25v and 1.20v b4 but double prime failed. I found tht with every 0.025v lower, the temp will decrease 1-2C at idle, and 3-4C lower at load (monitor with TAT). This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 28 2006, 12:45 PM
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 12:52 PM Return to original view \| Post #26
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(blaxez @ Oct 28 2006, 12:50 PM) Even with LN2, giving vCore >1.6V will kill your processor sooner or later, or maybe instantly. Wht u mean??
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:00 PM Return to original view \| Post #27
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(blaxez @ Oct 28 2006, 12:58 PM) In other words, even with the best cooling solution in the world, giving too much vcore will shorten your processor's lifespan or even killing it instantly. But wit i do is decreasing vCore to get lower temp here...
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #28
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(gengstapo @ Oct 28 2006, 01:00 PM) 2.8Ghz only? izzit enuff ka fRend? Can go 3.01GHz so far.. but for 24/7 i running 2.8GHz and vCore 1.275 for low temp.. coz not using 3rd pt. cooling. Only running single HSF for now.
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:15 PM Return to original view \| Post #29
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(Bliz @ Oct 28 2006, 01:12 PM) Well i tried 420x7 earlier this morning, after a while system won't boot . When i set the vdimm to +0.3v, it won't boot at all. The 420x7 was done everything at stock, with only vdimm +0.2v. Lazy to try higher again lar, satisfied with 2.8ghz . Anyway my system temperature is damn high, always around 45c, took out that thing applied AS5 already + put a small fan on top, still high temperature . u wont satisfy one.. bet u will try higher soon invested good cooling u should go higher ler..
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #30
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(Bliz @ Oct 28 2006, 01:18 PM) Wanted to try higher but my ram won't take +0.3vdimm, everytime i apply +0.3vdimm sure won't boot . Currently @ F6 bios, see when i feel like OCing higher i will update to F7 bios. My cpu temperature @ET5 always lower than my system temperature lol, kinda pathetic i would say Same happen to me.. my RAM prob cant take +0.3vDimm.. dont think corsair is good for OC. crap RAM will upgrade to Mushkin or KVR soon.
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:34 PM Return to original view \| Post #31
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(tAmp0i @ Oct 28 2006, 01:32 PM) Corsair VS? Care to snap a picture of the chips? wont care if dont need to peel off the warranty sticker
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #32
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(siauann @ Oct 28 2006, 01:37 PM) corsair no good? well u cant mention ram brand lar...its the chipset more important in oc...corsair oso have high performance ram ler...u dare to say corsair h/p ram no good in oc? i mean Corsair VS.. can c in my signature using VS
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 01:45 PM Return to original view \| Post #33
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 28 2006, 01:42 PM) Value select also come with diff chip....mine using Power Chip but can run 820MHz@ 4-4-4-12 on +0.3Vdimm with ease. Like other OCer said...is ALL LUCK... mine CVS 860Mhz running 5-7-7-20... max can take +0.2vDimm only.. no respond to +0.3vDimm. This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 28 2006, 01:57 PM
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 02:02 PM Return to original view \| Post #34
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(Bliz @ Oct 28 2006, 01:51 PM) Just did some tweaking, still can't go pass 410FSB, the ram limiting me for sure, can't take more than 0.2vdimm, tried adding VFSB VMch all the same, can't go pass 410 while maintaining stability. 430 can boot though, but not stable enough to load window same thing happen to me.. when try 440FSB... U sure this is RAM prob?? my CVR can go 430FSB though.. ya with loose lanterncy la.. my only prob is cant reboot.. im quite sure this is cause by my lazy CVR This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 28 2006, 03:22 PM
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 02:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #35
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(Bliz @ Oct 28 2006, 02:10 PM) Lazy to try again, very damn sure it's ram problem, cpu can do with low voltage but ram cannot accept +0.3vdimm . Everytime i went pass 400 sure won't stay stable for more than 30mins @bliz mind to take a snap of ur RAM chip also?? QUOTE(tAmp0i Posted Today @ 02:09 PM ) I mean you don't have to peel off the seal right? You can see the marking on the chips there... Just wanted to know which chips are good and which are not Sure.. i'll take a snap and post it. This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 28 2006, 02:15 PM
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 02:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #36
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(blaxez @ Oct 28 2006, 02:17 PM) Same here, mine was not stable even at +0.3 vDimm and 5-5-5-15. Damn crappy CVS mind to tell me not stable at wht FSB?? mine is 440FSB x7 cant reboot..
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yehlai	Oct 28 2006, 03:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #37
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(blaxez @ Oct 28 2006, 02:17 PM) Same here, mine was not stable even at +0.3 vDimm and 5-5-5-15. Damn crappy CVS my CVS also cant take +0.3vDimm.. cant reboot.. tried +0.5vDimm also same. So now im stuck at 3.01GHz.. I think this wont happen to hynnix chips. QUOTE(siauann Today @ 02:18 PM) perhaps lowering vdimm? btw how need to run orthos to really show stability??? so far my 430x7 had run for 12hr++ U running double orthos?? wht is ur load temp?? i tot DS-3 can go beyond 450FSBx7 like Evogenix.. maybe hes using 800MHz RAM though QUOTE( edited by mikelanding: Today @ 01:59 PM) Maybe U can change multiplier to X6 and bump up yr FSB...see how far U can push yr ram... BTW, did u burn in yr ram? If not, try use memtest86+ and let it run overnight....might help a little bit... how to run memtest86+ please can anyone gimme some hint.. This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 28 2006, 04:09 PM
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yehlai	Oct 29 2006, 02:08 AM Return to original view \| Post #38
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE ddww,Oct 28 2006, 05:38 @yehlai, had u snap shot your RAM chip? you don have to post it up, just let us know wat is the chip used. im finding new RAMs so hope to compare. Sure sure.. but i tried ledi.. cant get clear focus with my 1.0MP hp camera.. i copy down the chips code ledi.. will post it ASAP. BUt Corsair chips all relabled one.. dont think anyone can recognize them... They say micron chip got green Dot at the corner of chip.. my chip also have.. maximum can go 870Mhz.. im not satisfy with it. QUOTE Sanko,Oct 28 2006, 06:11 PM walao... your ram can clock so high still want to change? sell me your ram then, lol. just kidding. i might consider to sell it.. after my final exam and try higher OC. Bought this RAM less than 2 months.. QUOTE coolice Yesterday, 08:31 PM orthos is designed for dual core priming..single orthos is enough liao may be is v2 can make 2 diff list for benchmark and stable Are u sure?? when u open Orthos u can see the instruction tht say " Sys. is running more than one core. Please run another Orthos " something like this will show. BTW coolice wht vers. r u using?? This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 29 2006, 02:52 AM
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yehlai	Oct 29 2006, 02:21 AM Return to original view \| Post #39
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 29 2006, 02:16 AM) ya http://sp2004.fre3.com/ Yes im using same vers. oso i think.. state there need to run 2 Prime simutaneously... When u open tht progeamme oledi state there.... This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 29 2006, 02:22 AM
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yehlai	Oct 29 2006, 02:30 AM Return to original view \| Post #40
tree lover Senior Member 4,539 posts Joined: Feb 2006 From: LocOmoT\|oN.L0co\|oti0N	@Gengstapo Are u using KVR 533 with hynix chips?? this RAM outperform my CVS 667 when OC.. Now i found a new KVS 533 with price quite cheap.. about RM 160 for 512MB. Izzit worth to downgrade my CVS 667MHz to KVR 533Mhz since KVR doing really good for OC.. gimme some advice pls. I saw tht chips lable 'Hynix XXX-C4 'also. izzit good? I might get 2 stick of em' only cost RM 320... hehe. This post has been edited by yehlai: Oct 29 2006, 02:32 AM
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