Hi Msians.... may I know why Yindian in your country have to put A/L and A/P in between their name?

e.g Kali A/L Muthu
Why can't they just put Kali Muthu?

As for Meles, I think modern Meles will not put Najib Bin Razak and put Najib Razak instead right? They minus out the Bin.
Correct me if ayam wrong.

Tenkiu.... in advance as I confuse some times in this matter...

so u bangala

Its our identity. U want exclude bin,binti, a/l, a/p u keluar.

IC and official name =/= glamor/fb id/etc

Dey... not me la... I saw many job applicants they exclude it and I wonder why and do they hv right to exclude it?

nope
still use bin

Dulu, zaman Lord of the rings, Dwarfs, Human dengan Elf pon guna something similar jugak. Macam Gimli son of Gloin dan Aragon son of Arathon. Kalau ade meeting atau teleconference diorang akan address dwarf tu Gimli son of Gloin tapi dia tak panggil 'Gimli Gloin'. Silap panggil kene kapak nanti.

nope

still use bin

Most of my friends have taken out the bin and binti out of their kids names these days.

I'd probably do the same if I had kids.

Why some Indians have a/l and a/p while some Indians have their dad's name (I think) as an initial before their name e.g. N. Surendran or something like that and others have names like erm.... got family name at the back... e.g. xxxx Kumar or xxxx Raj something like that

Mohon pencerahan

This post has been edited by 8sg9ft: Apr 21 2014, 04:58 PM

I wonder... should gomen add...

N/H for NooooookHarooom...

the bin/binti al/ap thingy is a only malaysian thing, or it applies at india or arabs as well?

so its not by law have to have that? then who started it?

osama bin laden

that should answer your question

oh ya that 1

just like Near Lee ****** ***** in IC cannot remove Lee

the bin represents what actually? similar to A/L, A/P?

i remember someone complain when govt officer go and add a/l or a/p to an indian's birth cert/ic.

A lot Sarawakian Malays don't have it.

My friends wanted to register their kid in Canberra, of course gov servant gip shit face say "Tak muslim ke?" but they went ahead with it. TBH they're extremely religious, but didn't find the need to add bin or binti.

bin - son of

binti - daughter of

erika aryna binti mohamad zulkifli - erika aryna daughter of mohamad zulkifli

like in midevil. demangos son of krytos

Thats true...at one point in time, if I'm not mistaken around 2003, the a/p and a/l was made optional, but its being put in place now. Not sure whats the reason.

iinm, not putting 'bin' in ic, the boys/girls considered as foster child.. haha

when lotr use aragorn son of arathorn, gimli son of gloin, punya main supportive everyone..

but switch to a/l, a/p, feel outdated pula..

ptui hypocrites

Correct me if I'm wrong, i thought children with no "bin/binti" now being implemented by gov so that they did'nt have to use "bin/binti Abdullah" as they are anak luar nikah. Can anyone explain this?

is a/l and a/p a british colonial thing?

also bin/binti -> isn't that because most malays don't have a surname so bin/binti was needed to differentiate siti A from siti B

i vaguely remember marina mahathir using surname and not bin/binti though

Not sure. I figured you should be able to name your kid anything as long as it wasn't anything nasty, under the prohibited name list or insulting.

This post has been edited by kimora90: Apr 21 2014, 05:30 PM

anyway to ts, this oso u mau kecoh ka

why u no kecoh roman and greek ages before us

or other names all around the globe;

da, de, le, mc, o', dos, van, etc

lol

up to you ler wan put or not...
if parents put for u long time ago...go JPN and change urself lar...

I am quite curious about his name. Osama's father is not Laden but Mohammed. Osama's full name is Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden but Laden is also not his great grandfather. According to Wiki,



Osama's son, Omar bin Laden also use Laden instead of Osama. So, that means that their family is using bin Laden as some sort of pseudo surname. Yet, the wiki also states



So, what's up with this? Any reason behind this style of naming? And how does surname come into play in Arabic name since they didn't even register it?

Any Malaysian Muslim that follow this style of naming?

initially, it is from arabic word, 'ibn' pronounce as 'ibnu'
in malay, it is 'bin' which means 'anak kepada'

cmiiw

silly OP, of all the things you could ask/complain you ask about irrelevant crap...

Why not ask about surnames? Why use the father's name instead of family name/surname?

basically its the lack of surnames in msian indians and malays

yeah, its true.. anak luar nikah must not have 'bin/binti' if that man piap2 and lari..

but

if someone marry that anak's mom, then, that anak will get 'bin/binti'

cmiiw

This post has been edited by harizdesu: Apr 21 2014, 05:57 PM

Because some people have very long name, so it's hard to tell where it ends and their parent name. Although, personally I find short names without the a/l, a/p, bin, binti etcetc much more elegant.

Family name: stark, sigil: direwolf, motto: winter is coming

Previously met one yindian guy in labor room, his waifu deliver that time and my waifu next room, few days later meet him again
in JPN and he told me he got some issue removing A/L for his son's name and need to get someone political influence ppl to help
to do so, i ask him why? and i got shocked when he answered me they remove A/L or A/P because their son or doter will dun have difficulties
going oversea to further study in future. Please correct me if i am wrong.

This. My friend actually having trouble entering USA due to his A/L. He told me they read it as AL.. as in AL Jabbar. He kena tahan for few hours for checking before been allow enter. For my case mine is S/O on my birth certificate and sister is D/O instead of A/L & A/P

is it possible for cainis name to put A/L as well?
Lim A/L Kit Eng

Bodoh tu simpan sikit...

arabs, especially the sauds, are very tribal in nature. they're proud of their tribal heritage.

in this case, someone long time ago by the name of Laden started a legacy for his kin to follow.....

certain Chinese communities also got, like over here you see Persatuan Lee, Yap, etc.

Lim itu surname la bangang...Kalo Cina nak letak A/L = Lim Kit Eng A/L Lim Ah Sai

Don Daniyal bin Don Biyajid. Don Daniyal A/L Don Biyajid. Don Daniyal Biyajid.

During the 19th century, when the British went around to recruit Tamils of India to work in many parts of their empire, they have a problem recording down the names of the workers because all of them have only one given name. For example, from just one village, they may get 30 Arumugam which would very difficult to keep track. So what they did was they added the S/O followed by their father's names and from then onwards, the descendants of the imported labourers from India have followed the convention when naming their children. With the emphasis on BM, the S/O changed to A/L.

Sos?

If my memory is correct, it's somewhere in this documentary:

aragorn son of arathorn...

Rajinnya.....

even thor is named thor son of odin....

korang ni kenapa mau drop itu A/L, A/P, Bin???? jelly sebab cainis name cannot put a?

Cinis jelly? LOL...