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 Monk Discussion V7, RoS:The perfection of Seven Sided Strike

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post Sep 11 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(yjeen @ Sep 11 2014, 03:27 PM)
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1.2k-2k AR. but vit too low. hehehe
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:57 AM

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After days of testing skills and gears. I finally found a way to counter RD, frozen pulse, lightning, electric and firechain @ T6.
It was hurt shiat for my monk initially, even in solo game, especially the electric. Now I'm good to run ignoring most of the elemental damage with 1K AR and 17K Armor (buffed).

Found my below par Flying Dragon daibo. But it still delivers decent damage (100-140m against elites).
Yeap, it's fun to play monk again. Blizz has fixed monk's defence and offencee. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 12 2014, 12:37 PM
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post Sep 12 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 12 2014, 11:57 AM)
After days of testing skills and gears. I finally found a way to counter RD, frozen pulse, lightning, electric and firechain @ T6.
It was hurt shiat for my monk initially, even in solo game, especially the electric.  Now I'm good to run ignoring most of the elemental damage with 1K AR and 17K Armor (buffed).

Found my below par Flying Dragon daibo. But it still delivers decent damage (100-140m against elites).
Yeap, it's fun to play monk again.  Blizz has fixed monk's defence and offencee. thumbup.gif
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care to share?
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post Sep 12 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(bewd85 @ Sep 12 2014, 02:08 PM)
care to share?
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For my build, I tried all mantra and passive/active skills with reduce damage.
Electric and fire chain were still hurt shiat @ T6 solo.

Cyclone strike/soothing breeze solves my problem.
Spamming cyclone strike combo with strongarm bracers.
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post Sep 12 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 12 2014, 03:12 PM)
For my build, I tried all mantra and passive/active skills with reduce damage.
Electric and fire chain were still hurt shiat @ T6 solo.

Cyclone strike/soothing breeze solves my problem.
Spamming cyclone strike combo with strongarm bracers.
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bro you can try mantra of healing (need of time)can solve your both problem.
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post Sep 12 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Sep 12 2014, 02:24 PM)
bro you can try mantra of healing (need of time)can solve your both problem.
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Healing is higher with Mantra of healing.

I found it not as good because I lose AR and armor if I use mantra of healing.
I keep my AR and armor (with Mantra of Salvation/Hard Target) and generate life through cyclone strike/soothing breeze.
It works better for me.

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My skill setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...bXWU!Zbbcba

I use deadly reach to have range attack.
Some monster like Mallet is damn hurt if I use other primary skills (FoT/CW/WotHF).
And mantra of salvation, either hard target or perseverance is good.
Can drop mystic ally for Epiphany (will swap Crudest Boots for Iceclimbers if I use Epiphany).

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post Sep 12 2014, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 12 2014, 02:28 PM)
Healing (on paper) is higher with Mantra of healing.

I found it not as good because I lose AR and armor if I use mantra of healing.
I keep my AR and armor (with Mantra of Salvation/Hard Target) and generate life through cyclone strike/soothing breeze.
It works better for me.

P/S
My skill setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...bXWU!Zbbcba

I use deadly reach to have range attack.
Some monster like Mallet is damn hurt if I use other primary skills (FoT/CW/WotHF).
And mantra of salvation, either hard target or perseverance is good.
Can drop mystic ally for Epiphany (will swap Crudest Boots for Iceclimbers if I use Epiphany).
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fire monk....mind share your eq?
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post Sep 12 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(bewd85 @ Sep 12 2014, 02:49 PM)
fire monk....mind share your eq?
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My gear is so-so. Just re-geared last week.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ALeUNe-6127/hero/20184013
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 12 2014, 02:28 PM)
Healing is higher with Mantra of healing.

I found it not as good because I lose AR and armor if I use mantra of healing.
I keep my AR and armor (with Mantra of Salvation/Hard Target) and generate life through cyclone strike/soothing breeze.
It works better for me.

P/S
My skill setup
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...bXWU!Zbbcba

I use deadly reach to have range attack.
Some monster like Mallet is damn hurt if I use other primary skills (FoT/CW/WotHF).
And mantra of salvation, either hard target or perseverance is good.
Can drop mystic ally for Epiphany (will swap Crudest Boots for Iceclimbers if I use Epiphany).
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If you use IC/Epiphany, your spamming of MoS:HT is not as useful as spamming MoH:ToN as MoH heals you AND give you damage reduction.

If you use crudest boot, you'll be spamming Mystic ally instead.

But then the high fire% you had on gears is not optimized as there's no firespender in your skills beside deathly reach which had low damage compare to spirit spender..

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post Sep 12 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 12 2014, 03:12 PM)
If you use IC/Epiphany, your spamming of MoS:HT is not as useful as spamming MoH:ToN as MoH heals you AND give you damage reduction.

If you use crudest boot, you'll be spamming Mystic ally instead.

But then the high fire% you had on gears is not optimized as there's no firespender in your skills beside deathly reach which had low damage compare to spirit spender..
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I spam cyclone strike. I do not want to use fire cyclone strike because I want to spend higher spirit to spawn a decoy.
Cyclone strike/soothing breeze allows me to put in electric or fire chain elites without being killed in 1-2 seconds.
For monster like Mallet, I spam sweeping wind.

I used to use fire bell, which has higher damage on paper.
But it is not as effective as fire sweeping wind. Bell's killing time is almost the same sweeping wind.
Sweeping wind can deliver consistent damage. And the main damage comes from the decoy (100-140m against elites).

With fire bell, i need to spam cyclone strike + bell, which is not very good.
With limited spirit, it is better to spam cyclone strike, which you get life in return.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 12 2014, 03:20 PM)
I spam cyclone strike. I do not want to use fire cyclone strike because I want to spend higher spirit to spawn a decoy.
Cyclone strike/soothing breeze allows me to put in electric or fire chain elites without being killed in 1-2 seconds.
For monster like Mallet, I spam sweeping wind.

I used to use fire bell, which has higher damage on paper.
But it is not as effective as fire sweeping wind. Bell's killing time is almost the same sweeping wind.
Sweeping wind can deliver consistent damage. And the main damage comes from the decoy (100-140m against elites).

With fire bell, i need to spam cyclone strike + bell, which is not very good.
With limited spirit, it is better to spam cyclone strike, which you get life in return.
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which makes your stacking of fire% kinda redundant. Maybe looking for gear upgrade?
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post Sep 12 2014, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 12 2014, 03:26 PM)
which makes your stacking of fire% kinda redundant. Maybe looking for gear upgrade?
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With +74% fire damage, the fire sweeping wind (315%) and deadly reach (260%+100% with Depth diggers) give decent damage.
(p.s. +28% damage from strongarm bracers, combo with cyclone strike)

Yes, for sure I'm looking for gear upgrade.

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post Sep 12 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 11 2014, 04:46 PM)
can run grift 35 with less than 1k RA smile.gif

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i find out from this video the damage is sort of clunky , even the attacks seems a bit slower , altho i haven try this type monks but sort like not my style hmm.gif
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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Sep 12 2014, 06:53 PM)
i find out from this video the damage is sort of clunky , even the attacks seems a bit slower , altho i haven try this type monks but sort like not my style  hmm.gif
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now ...mostly monk players almost the same build and same style not much option can compare holy build :sunwuko set+flying dragon

like mine monk no sunwuko set build mee rubus laugh.gif i can play mee rubus style laugh.gif
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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Sep 12 2014, 05:53 PM)
i find out from this video the damage is sort of clunky , even the attacks seems a bit slower , altho i haven try this type monks but sort like not my style  hmm.gif
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Can't be as clunky as storm-breaker. In fact, you need quick finger in this build, so, i will not use clunky to describe it.

About the attack speed, you may think it's slow because it's 2H, but with Alacrity (15% IAS), STI (30% IAS), Gogok (15% IAS) and proc from The Flying Dragon, I can get 3.8 attack speed. It's feel a lot faster than before 2.1 even when I was dual wield. Just compare the video when I DW back then.



I can't tell you if this build is your type of style, my point is, this 2H build does not feel slow. In fact, as someone who love fast attack speed, and has been a DW user for a long time, I find this build quite fun to play with.


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I just noticed (I'm slow) but not 100% confirm..

that SWK Decoy will not reflect damage on Reflect affixes.
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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Sep 13 2014, 07:56 PM)
I just noticed (I'm slow) but not 100% confirm..

that SWK Decoy will not reflect damage on Reflect affixes.
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how bout the chances of reflect by smite from marinae?
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post Sep 14 2014, 02:30 PM

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Not sure about Mirinae's smite.
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i finally bust through greater rift 27....so far highest for me....just recently got the crudest boots...now left witching hour....

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