Hi guys

Have visited the main place residence at Usj recently. The place looks nice especially the common area. Most of it. The
Common area under block D doesn't look complete tho. Anyone got any idea why that's the case? I mean they built everything nicely but that area. Even the car park looks better. Does anyone know if they will ever fix that part up. Cuz interested to invest.

Also can the owners get vp when the common areas aren't complete?

Any info to share is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

overprice due to abandon project..

juz my own opinion.. no offence

No offence taken. Appreciate ur opinion.

I only have structural issue with the project. it has been abandon for more than 10 years, totally expose.
since even the most ugly person can be made pretty with proper makeup ! so you be the judge.

Shop are good and there is a nearby LRT soon. i can see the nearby shop lot getting their life back. i think is a good bet, but i don't have the "spare" money to bet.

but its quite nice place, if price lower might get more ppl to look out... as still sum ppl still concern it as wat i mention earlier.

iinm they asking for more thn 600psf rite?

yeah ur rite about tht, their main attraction is nearby amenities.

btw nearly 20 years it abandon...

What common area in block D that needs fixes? Was there last week to have a look

In front of the gym at block c or beside the children pool. That area is block d. The area is not tiled. The cement floor is not polished/smoothen (tripping hazard). If u go behind the lift there's a large rectangular pit of about 4 or 5 feet deep that I think would be a hazard to children.

And the ceiling is bare, no plaster or painting done.

Can they hand over keys like that?

the main point, is CF been issue?

Apparently cf issued. It's all over the news.

is CF issue within the whole development or block by block?

Well that's something that I wouldn't know. Didn't know u can give cf block by block. There's a shopping mall underneath. Can u give cf to certain floor and not to other floors? I dono.

Can u give cf for a block with a giant pit that is a safety hazard? That's what I wanna know.

Called the sales office to ask also can't get through.

they can give by block, they might issue for shopping lot thn later to residential unit, which iirc like tropican city mall, shopping mall thn later office block and residential block...

by right they cant give out the CF if the building is not safe to use... which my father in law encouter b4 in a condo at seri kembangan.... which the fire rating door is not safe and the gov. hold the CF untill all the fire rated door change to a better wan...

better check with them with detail explanation.

Thanks r3apers for the info. Quite helpful. Been trying to call the sales office but can't get anyone. Dono who else to check with. Asked estate agents in iprop also they dono or don't wanna tell.

Am hoping someone here would have checked and can share.

mostly the developer hand over the keys and rush for CCC/CF as they dont wan to held penalty for late charges to the owner. As long the main structure or other necessary thing are in place, they can issue the CCC (Certificate of Completion & Compliance) as like the temporarily CF for the building, later all completed the proper CF will be issued iinm.

might need other to confirm tht.

thts juz wat i heard & know frm contractor & architect.

There should be no structural issues. It is a reinforced concrete structure and it gets stronger the longer the curing process meaning expose to air and water. The one that we need to worry about is the exposed steel bars at the highest floor but i'm sure that is properly replaced....

my concern is the internal structure, the main pillar should be no problem...

Do you mind to further explain regarding this matter? Internal structure such as?

TQ

internal brick pillar... as i know the internal structure is halfway done and due to abandon long time with those malaysia weather, dunno is still good or not as we cannot c frm outside. as cement with water been puddle in the area long time it will sip into the cement iinm.

The best option is to clarify with the developer. The required fixes if not remedy by the time of vacant possession, then it should falls under the defect liability period rectification. Unless, the developer has other plans to house something there in which the clean up work will be done later

U said u went there. U didn't notice? U investing in it? Or just taking a look?

I was there to check out the mall and went to the management office at level 8 to look see look see. Saw the common areas like the infinity pool, kids playground only but did not explore each block. Plan to make another trip there to check out the condo. At least the main place is so much better than the usj 19 IT mall. Location wise is ok, near to ldp and can exit to elite highway. They have a lrt station which is not far from walking. Plus point for me.

Thank you for your input.

I think not 20years abandoned but almost 20..last time i cud remember was around 98 i think... that whole area + flyover under construction..

ok I'm not too sure about that but they spend a good six months before I see a crane arriving at the site.

since reconstructing a long abandoned building is not new science, I'm sure they went through the proper checklist...

moist won't hurt internal pillars as long as it is not saltwater. and it is Binapuri whom have quite a reputation to protect...

moist can break a part within the cement itself if too long... but different ppl got different look out so cant judge by tht...

hope they really test & check everything b4 continue the works... scared later not within few year, a lot of hairline crack here, crack there.. been saw few condo which happend like tht.

yah i know binapuri has a quite reputation, but reputation in my own thinking are no important, important is the works tht construct the building.

yes, but if it is proven to be weak structurally and no known remedy can be done to it... don't you think Binapuri would gladly demolished it, void all previous owners and just redesigned one from scratch?

if they wan to demolished and reconstruct with a better design, tht will cost more, and i assume the price wont be in the range of 600-700psf already...

btw hope tht they go redo wat ever defect within the structure and not juz dig and fill...

This post has been edited by r3apers: Apr 21 2014, 04:31 PM

of course. demolition needs a lot of work. and money but it is not something they cannot do. besides the benefits are obvious, with fatter margins. though it won't really change the mall perimeter other than the fact that it can goes higher up which may turn out worst but if it is safe, it is good.

i just hope it will spill over the shops. besides MCT is starting work on the other side too...with their own mall, hotels, offices, etc

USJ 21 is gonna shine for sure...

yeap, thts wat we hope.

but will be crowded will cars and ppl thn jam jam jam...

When are u going there? Please ask them what they are doing with the area and if and when they will fix it and share with us. That's the only concern I have before investing in it.

This post has been edited by gapkhakis98: Apr 21 2014, 09:07 PM

There seem to be a lot of concern about concrete being exposed to the elements. Good or bad I dono. But wat about the lrt track and pillars. They are also reinforced concrete exposed to rain and sun.

there are different way the cement is be done, LRT those are frm batch by batch frm a cement factory which all is in a same mixture... while for high-rise building, mostly those pillar and floor slab are frm cement factory but however those wall and other internal part wall are by human (mostly).. so thts wat i concern will the wall get crack or hairline crack within few year or just a year? since the building been abandon for so long and i dont think the cement mixture will be the same...

So what happens if the hairline cracks appear after a year or years from now?

thn u need to prepared money to plaster it back the normal way but mostly will reappear..... or proper way is dig about 1-2 cm wide of the hairline thn cement back.. to reduce the hairline crack reappear...

btw juz my own opinion, might got other sifu had better experience with hairline crack..

Most developments usually have it pre-mix with the cement mixer truck bringing in from elsewhere. But most of them should be from nearby. Icon City from Mah Sing have their own internal mixer from the looks of it. But it is reasonable as they have the space and their development is huge.

This post has been edited by lilzany: Apr 22 2014, 05:25 PM

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The developer is planning to bring in a fitness operator and it to be sited at block D. Currently, as per sales agent, they are at nego stage. So, I reckon that that area will be tied up once the fitness operatior is confirmed

Thanks lonewolf8. I also went on Thursday and got the same story. Which sales agent u spoke to? U managed to see the show unit? Was told only like 14 big units available left. Block b sold out.

So what u think of the place? U think u will be investing in it?

I met with the gentlement called Steven and he told me that there is only 11 units left. I stayed at putra heights for almost 10 years and have see how this project progressed from an abandon status to a completed one. So below are my personal point of view
Plus points
a) It's freehold and LRT is walking distance away. Easy to access to LDP and Elite highway
b) The shoplots around the vicinity areas have improved i.e. more F&B outlets and some of the units are renovating.
c) Around the vicinity there are not many other condominium arounds for rental competition though there are lots of units within Main Place. The nearest condo is Rhythm avenue usj 19 ( I guessed) unlike in USJ 1, Cyberjaya, Old Klang Road where there are several condos (old and new) within each of other
d) Main Place has managed to attract some good retail outlets. Convenient for whoever stayed there.

Cons
1) Previously it was an abandoned project and may have some stigma attached to it
2) Car park is limited but if you have $$$, can purchase additional unit
3) The design is just ok and can't really compare to some of the better and newer design of other condo i.e. psf of these are higher though

Since the main place condo is completed, you have the opportunity to view the potential unit as it condition. From there, u can have a feel of the unit and can make a better judgement call.

Cheers