Friend, two of the links you posted are related to the DSG 7 DQ200 gearbox issues.. The DSG6 wet clutch is well known to be more robust with less issues.. Perhaps you wanna read what Mavik wrote for clarification.

The problematic one are the dry clutch DSG and not the wet ones. TSi has dry clutch, the same with DSG7. I almost got myself a Passat before, so I do read up a bit instead of just pasting links.

Opps, someone above me already correcting the misconception.

This post has been edited by wiraone: Apr 17 2014, 09:49 PM

bmw classy premium!

prestigious > E90
performance > GTI

so TS its up to u to choose..

agreed.

I respect your views but I think that's typical Ah Beng thinking that the only function of a RWD car is to drift.

It's not all about straight line speed. It's the drive that's important. I find it hard that a 50:50 weighted RWD car is so under appreciated.

@Mavik have described his experience and opinion on RWD "driving pleasure"
Perhaps you guys might wanna share yours?

I think the argument on either RWD or FWD is better than one another is subjective and a long talk over coffee subject.

it seems like TS is a troll

No worries mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts. To me I just would like to share more because I have driven in both situations, normal day driving, B road driving as well as driving on the track.

1) The drive - When you drive with a RWD car, on normal roads or B roads or trunk roads. Highly likely you will have your traction control on (DSC/DTC/ESC, etc..). In these situations, the only difference you will feel is that you will tend to have less understeer when going into corners. Please note that although you may have a RWD, if you go into a corner too hot, no matter what, you will understeer. I can bring you for a ride to show that to you. Otherwise in all honesty, the drive is the same. Yes you can cut corners faster but to me all that says is a different line that you take through the various B roads. I have driven my E90 320d through Ulu Yam as well as the Golf GTI through Ulu Yam, personally I prefer the Golf because it has a bit more power delivery and the car is lighter.

2) 50:50 weighted balance - Honestly, ask any laymen on the street if they can tell the difference if the car is 50:50 weight distributed and 55:45 weight distributed. Even when I bring my so called 50:50 weight distributed car on the track, there are a lot of other factors to consider and only in those situations will you appreciate the balance of the car. And by those situations I mean the ability to balance the car through difficult corners by tapping the brakes and shifting the weight through acceleration.

In the scenario of the Golf GTI vs E90 325i, you are comparing a 1400kg car vs a 1600kg car. That is 200kg more and the E90 325i has less power. The E90 M-Sport suspension is very crashy and doesn't feel comfortable at all (I have a lot of rear seated passengers who complained to me during long distance driving). The Golf GTI however comes with DCC adjustable suspension which is useful if you want to cruise nicely and relaxingly or want a stiffer ride.

Just my 2 cents here.

Well, I'm driving a RWD car now without any traction control or VSC features at all, and I'm happy with my decision. The reason I choose to buy RWD car because I'm just totally bored already with FWD cars where it always understeers on the throttle, that's all. With the RWD car, now it handles more neutral. Of course not necessarily faster and surely not safer, but I just like the driving feel better and won't go back to FWD, at least for now. If I were to change again, I'd only go for AWD.

Golf gti mk6 anytime TS. One of the best cars I have ever driven. The BMW 325i is absolutely crap. Pay so much for roadtax yet slower than a GTI. Besides, interior is old and maintainence is higher than a golf.

The mk6 GTI is a legendary car and rightly so

Gti mk6, is this even a question?

hi ts i also have the same dilemma as you
e92 vs mk6 gti 2010
in terms of parts and servicing which is more economical?

Actually that is my thoughts as well! Looking around for a 4WD or AWD car to play around as well.

How about golf gti mk5? Its more or less the same althought the mk6 uses a different engine.

Yes gti anytime. Mavik has basically explained what all we need to know. Hope u had fun at the recent vw track day

On the dsg reliability, this is dsg 6 speed my friend, not the dsg7 on the tsi. The dsg6 is much more reliable, but i wont say its 100% problem free tho

And yes the e90 is a car from 2005, the equivalent gti at the time is the mk5, and even to the mk5gti the e90 325 will trail behind...

And oh, who doesnt love the dsg quick shifting and pop sound from the exhaust during shifting, i can barely hear the 325i even at redline..

But to be fair its not quite an apple to apple comparison

Hey me three!!
Haha just being a busybody.
My first car was a KE70 with transplated 1.5L engine. Manual and very crude RWD without any three letter words system assist. Being very young at the time, often underestimate risks. It was very easy to reach its limits of oversteer. At the crosspoint between being in control and losing control was quite heart stopping indeed. Yet maybe too dangerous for me now. A good AWD seems like a good compromise and worthwhile experience to pursue.
So yeah, an AWD

For me, my next target is Lancer Evo V-IX.

this mudah ad is a tsi so 7spd right. which version is the 6spd dsg ah? how to know. or as long as the spec says 6spd dsg, then it's the more reliable wet clutch d is it. thanks.

edit: http://www.mudah.my/Volkswagen+Golf+MK6+TS...2811.htm?last=1

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Apr 20 2014, 02:49 AM