Guys, lets keep the thread discussions mature and informative. No point flaming each other. We're all old enough to discuss like adults.

How is the pickup and acceleration of the SYlphy compared to the City? I havent tested the Sylphy yet but the City's CVT is very sluggish.

I remember when i test drove the Teana 2.0L before and found that the Xtronic CVT was actually quite alright. And the new Sylphy uses an upgraded version of the Xtronic CVT so it should be much better than the crappy City's CVT.

Anyway, the Sylphy is clearly a few steps ahead of the City 1.5V in terms of design, specs, interior space, handling, driving dynamics, etc. In fact, the only criteria which the City beats the Sylphy is its price.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Apr 24 2014, 11:10 AM

I think you need to balance your posts with some logic and maturity if you want people to take your comments seriously. Even though i own a Korean but i will never just blindly bash a Jap car for the sake of bashing. I think you should follow the same. You need to back up your points with facts and not just emotion. Saying that the Sylphy is the worst and never practical car thats a big waste of money is clearly incorrect and flawed in every aspect. Im not even bothered with resale value since it will still be better than the Koreans.

My 5 key positive points of the new Sylphy (and these are FACTS):

1) Redesigned exterior and interior which maintains its maturity and yet makes it youthful enough compared to the outgoing model
2) Better designed dashboard
3) Very good interior space for a C segment
4) Top safety specs with stability control and 6 airbags
5) Smooth shifting refined Xtronic CVT which is more powerful than even Toyota or Honda's CVT
6) Better tyres: R17 Continental ContiPremiumContact 2E
7) Max torque of 174Nm is available at lower RPM of 3,600 (previous was 191Nm at 4,400)

I really dunno what ure saying.

I am refering to the new 2014 Sylphy thats currently in some selected showrooms which is due to be officially launched this week.

And the Sylphy is C segment ok!

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Apr 28 2014, 02:12 PM

If im not mistaken, the Forte was the first non European C segment car in Malaysia to offer the full range of safety features and 5 years warranty. Plus it was very affordable and very well priced which is why it became the best selling Korean car in Malaysia. Imagine getting a 2.0L full spec C segment car for only 97K. For the first 3 months of 2012 for instance, the Forte sold double the number of Sylphy's. Even the Altis couldnt match the sales of the Forte.

So lets give credit where it is due.

Anyway, now there's a new contender in the market. The VW Jetta 1.4TSI twincharger. 160PS, 240Nm torque Euro 5 engine with 7 speed DSG. Comes with 5 years unlimited mileage warranty also and full range of safety features.

RM 135K (OTR with insurance).

I would think that buyers should seriously consider the 1.8VL for 125K+. For 10K more you get:

1) Auto levelling xenon projector headlamps with washers
2) LED positioning lamps
3) front fog lamps,
4) 205/50 R17 alloys with ContiPremiumContact 2 tyres
5) auto-folding wing mirrors
6) boot spoiler with integrated LED third brake lamp.
7) keyless entry and push start ignition,
8) leather steering wheel and gear lever
9) chrome-surrounded instrument dials
10) silver patterned interior trim
11) auto dual-zone air-con with rear vents
12) leather seats
13) 4.3-inch central display with CD, MP3, USB, AUX, Bluetooth, iPod
14) reverse camera

Both models come standard with 6 airbags, stability control, traction control, ABS, EBD,BA, 6 airbags and all round disk brakes.

But the cheapest C segment title still goes to the Kia Cerato (2.0L is RM 118,888 OTR).

Civic launched July 2012 so a facelift should be next year. But if u keep waiting for facelifts, then ull end up waiting forever. My rule of thumb is waiting for a facelift only makes sense if its due within the next 6months. Honda, Toyota and Nissan facelifts are always very minor but with hefty price increases.

Was refering to international brands not local.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3208777


This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Apr 30 2014, 09:09 AM

Seems that Hyundai is offering up to 7K discount for some of their cars. Elantra 1.8L Premium (full spec) 150PS, 178Nm, 6 speed auto with sunroof, navigation, reverse camera, Nappa leather seats, electric driver seat, cruise control, push start ignition, keyless entry. 2014 manufactured CKD model for RM 108K (OTR).

Yes. 108K for the 1.8L Premium full spec (with 2 airbags) is quite a good offer actually. 115K for Kia Cerato 2.0L.

This is incorrect for sure and you know it. Sylphy is 131PS, 174Nm while Cerato 2.0 is 161PS, 194Nm which is big difference not 'similar' plus Sylphy is CVT which isnt designed for raw power. Plus the Cerato comes with better specs and a better design. Its still sportier than the Sylphy despite the odd rear. Resale value for Sylphy isnt great either and surely no where compared to Toyota and Honda. Plus Cerato 2.0 now going for 115K (OTR) with 3 years free servicing (parts and labor).

Lets give credit where its due.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 6 2014, 12:03 PM

Bro, if u knew me well enough u would know that i love test driving cars. I do it quite regularly on weekends when im bored. So yes i have tested both the Sylphy and the Cerato. Both are no where close to Conti handling so its pointless even comparing to Contis in the first place. But the Cerato handles much better then the previous Forte and its a step above the Sylphy handling which is more tuned for comfort.

And to rebut your comment above on the high speed cruising, this is what Paultan had to say about the Cerato:

'at higher speeds it feels solid and certain (provided you’re not being silly), staying flat-ish and mostly neutral on the quick stuff'

Could be but the Cerato clearly has better acceleration. But thats expected.

No problem with your comments. Just that we should share facts which are true and not mislead.

Anyway, the review from Driven on Paultan is quite comprehensive:

http://paultan.org/2013/07/04/driven-kia-c...alaysian-roads/

Key positive points raised for the Cerato was build quality, ergonomics, impressive acceleration, engine does not lose out to its rivals both in performance or refinement, 7.0L/100km combined cycle FC consumption for the 2.0L, car feels solid and stable at higher speeds.

So Paultan is wrong eh?

Why your SA driving the car?

When i test drive i make sure i sit in all the seats. And i always bring between 1 to 3 ppl to test so that you get variation. Also test at different showrooms to get a better feel of the car under different driving conditions.

Nobody said he's God but Ill take his word over 95% of the LYN forumers here and that includes ALL of us here on this thread.

(P/S: He aint just any run of the mill automotive blogger. Go check out his team's credentials)

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 6 2014, 03:18 PM

Yes i trust him and yes he speaks the truth because he has bashed and promoted models when required which is a far cry from what the bloggers at CBT are doing. Ure more than welcome to prove him wrong...if u can.

Anyway, 7L/100km is advertised figures so real world figures would be higher for sure. Same with many other makes.