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TSah kuang
post Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM, updated 12y ago

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skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:08 PM

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Insaflah. Utar/ktar and private uni all got exam tips here there.
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:09 PM

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:10 PM

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public unis are always the best except you know who
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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why so butthurt? if you refer to the recent case, is tarc, not utar
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:14 PM

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Think they are quite Ok. A few of then published their FYP work in high impact factor journals.

Overall, I think Malaysian standards have dropped dramatically plus massive spoon feeding. But if you want to talk about leaking questions, some public uni lecturers used to leak questions to specific groups of students even 15 years ago.

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:14 PM

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ppl are testing scientific experiment regarding the gravity and flying high speed knot la... just it too bad their experiment failed

u suspect what leh? what kind of quality u wanna suspect?

if u suspect, u should go utar and do the experiment...so u will know how the quality of utar student thumbup.gif

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:15 PM

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maybe they have their own problems.. jump building doesnt mean his/her death ada kaitan dgn study.. or the U..
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:16 PM

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maybe it has to do with the expensive fees? lel
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:17 PM

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UITM still the best.
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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i tell u what. mmu is tough bro....superrrrr tough. so tough that fizzardo study 8 years cannot grad

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(finger_waverz @ Apr 15 2014, 11:10 PM)
public unis are always the best except you know who
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My results too shitty to even get into UiTM eventhough I bumi lelelelel
TSah kuang
post Apr 15 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Apr 15 2014, 11:16 PM)
maybe it has to do with the expensive fees? lel
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lmao la, utar the cheapest uni in MY
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:25 PM

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in my experience of working in my line , UTAR student's English are horrible
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(sgt goebellx @ Apr 15 2014, 11:25 PM)
in my experience of working in my line , UTAR student's English are horrible
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(sgt goebellx @ Apr 15 2014, 11:25 PM)
in my experience of working in my line , UTAR student's English are horrible
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How's UiTM?
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:34 PM

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Well TS u study which uni? Still employed or employing?

Open a thread and bash dont make yrself better thou
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:35 PM

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Haiz why compare when we all so different
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Apr 15 2014, 11:34 PM)
Well TS u study which uni? Still employed or employing?

Open a thread and bash dont make yrself better thou
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:36 PM

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lalabeng kenot take stress wan
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:36 PM

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NUS pun xbising korang dh bising...
Utar pun satu....
Sikit skit...xreti....

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 16 2014, 12:34 AM)
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:38 PM

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sikit sikit bunuh diri, is not the quality problem, ts, u know what is quality means?
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:38 PM

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9/10 people who says there's a quota in CLP are usually repeat failures. the 1/10 is the one that repeated one time and pass.
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:38 PM

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Utar shld have a 14 storey building. Easier for their atudents that hv problem
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:39 PM

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MMU no 14th floor, how to jump?
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:40 PM

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"Difficulty" is something very subjective la.

Honestly speaking, I tried to 'carry' a friend before through uni, and came to realized the intellectual difference between individuals.

The society these day forces everyone to go through university, but not everyone are born to be able to conceptualize or memorize materials. Hence the stress and pressure.
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:41 PM

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UM or other U also have shitty students. why focused to utar? all i know is entering utar is not difficult but to get good result is hard.
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 15 2014, 11:18 PM)
My results too shitty to even get into UiTM eventhough I bumi lelelelel
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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UTAR is a mirror of UITM.. whistling.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:46 PM

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TS u are hiring manager or what?

if no then stfu la ...
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(aaaeye @ Apr 15 2014, 11:45 PM)
UTAR is a mirror of UITM..  whistling.gif
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they both have problem communicating in english rclxms.gif

but then... compare smart and hardworking wise... different story bro... china boss damn like utar grads
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:49 PM

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UTAR hard?

I must be sleepwalk during my time there, lol
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:49 PM

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aiyo, y u so butt hurt utar n tar brave ppl go 14th floor?

u no balls say u no balls lar, y talk cock

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(SKY233 @ Apr 15 2014, 11:35 PM)

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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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So as compare us to NUS what are we?
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:52 PM

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They jump building because of pussey laaaa
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:53 PM

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lol if only it's uitm
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QUOTE(hirano @ Apr 15 2014, 11:08 PM)
Insaflah. Utar/ktar and private uni all got exam tips here there.
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lel good joke.

and to people out there please know the diff between UTAR and TARUC la bengong.
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QUOTE(tesh94 @ Apr 15 2014, 11:53 PM)
lel good joke.

and to people out there please know the diff between UTAR and TARUC la bengong.
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the acronym use the most of the same letter is quite similar it's confusing lol
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QUOTE(sgt goebellx @ Apr 15 2014, 11:25 PM)
in my experience of working in my line , UTAR student's English are horrible
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Not want to vroomm, but just one particular race only. Lel. Even the malays there good english.
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post Apr 16 2014, 12:27 AM

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Yes I am from UTAR.
Please differentiate between UTAR and TARUC.
Utar students' English is horrible? Say who?
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Say anything also useless, gomen dare not to remove race base learning institution, protect UiTM lar, protect tat lah. Last-last own self die, its graduates not marketable, got stereotype and people all no respect. doh.gif

Worst still, those good one also become victim of this policy. Those good one, very innocent, need to do more to convince employer they not the typical type from those institution. rclxub.gif
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post Apr 16 2014, 12:56 AM

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different ppl different feeling

just some lala which complains doesn't mean utar quality bad
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post Apr 16 2014, 01:41 AM

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like this oso can butthurt. even more pathetic than those who u 'despise'
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QUOTE(mclseuxp @ Apr 16 2014, 12:37 AM)
Say anything also useless, gomen dare not to remove race base learning institution, protect UiTM lar, protect tat lah. Last-last own self die, its graduates not marketable, got stereotype and people all no respect.  doh.gif 

Worst still, those good one also become victim of this policy. Those good one, very innocent, need to do more to convince employer they not the typical type from those institution.  rclxub.gif
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UTAR as far as I know isn't race based, as there are other races that studied there, which also includes Malay.
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1 student jump down 14th floor does not reflects the overall quality of the institution.

There's good student and bad students, some excels in what they're doing, some don't. Only those weakling jumps off, the strong one lives.
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jump harvard/mit boleh. janganlah terjun utar walaoweh sweat.gif
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utar n taruc both same lalabeng unis. lel
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No matter how hard, I still think that there's more than just studies that caused his emotional distress.
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too many leng lui there make hard for guy to concentration of studies..pls dont compare to to mostly boy homo nerd uni that full of banana
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utar full with lalacai and lalamui. their england is way way gooding
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I grad from UTAR yet turn out fine.Is a matter of a person mentality and attitude.
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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becoz even 4.0 in stpm
cant get ur desire course

when u're not master race
welcome to malaysia
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QUOTE(vin39 @ Apr 16 2014, 12:23 AM)
Not want to vroomm, but just one particular race only. Lel. Even the malays there good english.
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Every race got good English speaking once if they study in proper medium

QUOTE(Tyler__Durden @ Apr 16 2014, 01:43 AM)
UTAR as far as I know isn't race based, as there are other races that studied there, which also includes Malay.
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My time there, rarely but yes. Even African.

QUOTE(anti@ @ Apr 16 2014, 03:05 AM)
utar full with lalacai and lalamui. their england is way way gooding
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Ignore that but, some are gooding brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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That guy is from Ktar.. Ktar is damn easy actually??

Btw, I got a friend switch from Notts to Utar, and he say Utar is damn stress compare to Notts.. icon_idea.gif
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let say you graduated from monash university but english is still ciplak also fail.

i have seen some people very good in typing/writing but when comes to speaking, very different person.
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It's not only utar students, all Malaysian local students are performing not up to their potentials. It's been systemic in the education blueprint.
The smart ones already been groomed since primary in special schools and sent out to overseas to further their studies.
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UTAR Ppl are lala bengs
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QUOTE(TheSecRet @ Apr 16 2014, 12:27 AM)
Yes I am from UTAR.
Please differentiate between UTAR and TARUC.
Utar students' English is horrible? Say who?
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Says you. Three sentences, 3 grammatical mistakes.
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want to know what universities are tough?

those very strict with attendance o0o

QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Apr 16 2014, 10:23 AM)
Says you. Three sentences, 3 grammatical mistakes.
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His punctuation also doh.gif

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utar student are famous for their hardwork..but not english proficiency...ask any HR they will knoe

better other gov uni student...english x boleh & also malas like shiat..lul
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Apr 15 2014, 11:18 PM)
i tell u what. mmu is tough bro....superrrrr tough. so tough that fizzardo study 8 years cannot grad
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Some said the english levelis too low. Exam all in english n tak paham soalan walupun pandai. But i dunno how far its true.
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:31 AM)
utar student are famous for their hardwork..but not english proficiency...ask any HR they will knoe

better other gov uni student...english x boleh & also malas like shiat..lul
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Judging english proficiency from uni I can understand.

Hardwork? Lay off the entire HR department pls.
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why are they there in the first place?

coz they are stupid....cannot enter other uni
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Dulu 4th year at UM, pernah part time job jaga exam at UTAR PJ section 13, ade paper Bahasa Malaysia.......lol at their kertas jawapan, bahasa mengalahkan budak sekolah rendah. Some even ask my help to construct a proper ayat doh.gif
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its like uitm, they only churn out hardcore right wing dumbf***s
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The reason why they complain?

Some of them have poor SPM results, but since they got money, they can go into private uni/college..that is why they suffer in uni as some of them did not deserve to be there in the first place


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The main problems is our education system. We don't teach students to think. Only spoon-feed and concentrate of passing exams. No problem solving skills. When they encounter problems, the don't know what to do.

My nephews in Australia was taught to go cinema and buy movie tickets as class trip to watch Harry Potter during school hours when they are in Standard 1 age. The teacher will only accompany them and they have to do everything themselves. If they want to buy food, they have to do themselves. Its an enjoyable learning experience and they become more independant. In Malaysia, most kids in Standard 1 still cling to their parents like babies.
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:31 AM)
utar student are famous for their hardwork..but not english proficiency...ask any HR they will knoe

better other gov uni student...english x boleh & also malas like shiat..lul
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Hardwork is no use if you can't solve basic problems. I cannot tolerate them when they cannot solve simple problems. They are totally lost when they encounter something new. They don't think logically when they do work. No common sense. Its OK if the job is routine but when something extraordinary happen, they panicked and don't know how to look for answer.
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UTAR is the best
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Sorry to say mostly kaki fail STPM study there....
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its a chinese ghetto uni
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Grad from utar but now work in MNC. Problem?
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Lel.. Shutup UTAR/UITM/Monash/UM/USM...plebs. Lim kok wing has more class.

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In UTAR you can't resit a paper when you failed the examination. Need to retake the whole subject again the next semester and the subject might not be offered in your next semester. So if you're graduating next semester and the subject nt being offered then u wait lar. They have a period for you to complete your study too, if you can't complete by that time then bye bye lar or you change course and start from bottom again.

And yes UTAR students do not know what is study break, cause the longest break is only 2 weeks plus, sometimes so little till you feel no gap like another semester started right after the exam. If you really kira they learn more than any U for a standard 3 years degree course.

Talk about assignments and presentations plus examinations, I could say I knew many could not even survive through their foundation year. If you really STUDY and not there to enjoy life and do other shit, there is not much free time for you to lepak around. Those who says they graduate with little effort must have graduate terribly lar. Try to ask how's their CGPA.

But have to admit lar, the current standard of UTAR students really drop already compared to few years back. But not only in UTAR, have to say all the undergraduates nowadays like to complain, want high salary but do ntg much.
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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QUOTE(jumpermist @ Apr 16 2014, 11:30 AM)
In UTAR you can't resit a paper when you failed the examination. Need to retake the whole subject again the next semester and the subject might not be offered in your next semester.  So if you're graduating next semester and the subject nt being offered then u wait lar. They have a period for you to complete your study too, if you can't complete by that time then bye bye lar or you change course and start from bottom again.

And yes UTAR students do not know what is study break, cause the longest break is only 2 weeks plus, sometimes so little till you feel no gap like another semester started right after the exam. If you really kira they learn more than any U for a standard 3 years degree course.

Talk about assignments and presentations plus examinations, I could say I knew many could not even survive through their foundation year. If you really STUDY and not there to enjoy life and do other shit, there is not much free time for you to lepak around. Those who says they graduate with little effort must have graduate terribly lar. Try to ask how's their CGPA.

But have to admit lar, the current standard of UTAR students really drop already compared to few years back. But not only in UTAR, have to say all the undergraduates nowadays like to complain, want high salary but do ntg much.
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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If u r good y end up in utar. I just wanna tell u, it's bcoz we r not that lucky enuf to get the course we want from the government. We r oso not lucky enuf to born in a rich family. So, we left no choice. Maybe u wud say what about full scholarship, but honestly the places are really limited n I don't think the places r enuf for all straight A students.

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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Apr 16 2014, 11:23 AM)
Says you. Three sentences, 3 grammatical mistakes.
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I see only two, can list out all 3?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(TheSecRet @ Apr 16 2014, 12:27 AM)
Yes, I am from UTAR.
Please differentiate between UTAR and TARUC. (WTF is this? Throw out the whole thing. It should be "UTAR and TARC are not the same.")
Utar students' English is horrible? Says who?
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Apr 16 2014, 11:04 AM)
Hardwork is no use if you can't solve basic problems. I cannot tolerate them when they cannot solve simple problems. They are totally lost when they encounter something new. They don't think logically when they do work. No common sense. Its OK if the job is routine but when something extraordinary happen, they panicked and don't know how to look for answer.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Apr 16 2014, 11:04 AM)
Hardwork is no use if you can't solve basic problems. I cannot tolerate them when they cannot solve simple problems. They are totally lost when they encounter something new. They don't think logically when they do work. No common sense. Its OK if the job is routine but when something extraordinary happen, they panicked and don't know how to look for answer.
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Nerdy UTAR jump off the building, go to class, play DOTA at cc no money to buy PC or lappy yet , eat at BRJ nasi lemak without ayam cut cost mah no money , meanwhile in MMU. Douchebag student with lalabeng car, with girls around even your face looks like banana since ada wang ada ahmoi. They can stay survived. That's all. The end

my engrand come from you /k

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QUOTE(jumpermist @ Apr 16 2014, 11:30 AM)
In UTAR you can't resit a paper when you failed the examination. Need to retake the whole subject again the next semester and the subject might not be offered in your next semester.  So if you're graduating next semester and the subject nt being offered then u wait lar. They have a period for you to complete your study too, if you can't complete by that time then bye bye lar or you change course and start from bottom again.

And yes UTAR students do not know what is study break, cause the longest break is only 2 weeks plus, sometimes so little till you feel no gap like another semester started right after the exam. If you really kira they learn more than any U for a standard 3 years degree course.

Talk about assignments and presentations plus examinations, I could say I knew many could not even survive through their foundation year. If you really STUDY and not there to enjoy life and do other shit, there is not much free time for you to lepak around. Those who says they graduate with little effort must have graduate terribly lar. Try to ask how's their CGPA.

But have to admit lar, the current standard of UTAR students really drop already compared to few years back. But not only in UTAR, have to say all the undergraduates nowadays like to complain, want high salary but do ntg much.
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And do you think that UTAR is the only uni in Malaysia where you can't resit for the exam again if you failed?

Nope.

Those who failed the foundation, can go saupei la. People can go on "reading" (yes, reading) the whole textbook, but still get an E grade. They do not know the technique of studying (which may differ from person to person).

You said that sem break is only 2 weeks? Study more than other uni? Haha. Bet they only take like what... 4 subjects per semester? Meh. You want to compare, please compare the subjects number and credit hours.

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QUOTE(suguss @ Apr 16 2014, 12:38 AM)
Utar shld have a 14 storey building. Easier for their atudents that hv problem
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TAR NO 14 STOREy building also laugh.gif but still they jump laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bastaixos @ Apr 16 2014, 03:33 AM)
utar n taruc both same lalabeng unis. lel
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QUOTE(kamfoo @ Apr 16 2014, 04:05 AM)
too many leng lui there make hard for guy to concentration of studies..pls dont compare to to mostly boy homo nerd uni that full of banana
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Apr 16 2014, 04:13 AM)
i had to admit they have the best chicks around...
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lol what's with the hurt. that much of jelly i starting to think utar actually not bad.



btw, this ts cant even finish his own fyp, ada hati kutuk orang. pathetic.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3191511&hl=

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QUOTE(kakakkiwi @ Apr 16 2014, 09:01 PM)
lol what's with the hurt. that much of jelly i starting to think utar actually not bad.
btw, this ts cant even finish his own fyp, ada hati kutuk orang. pathetic.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3191511&hl=
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vroom vroom

start your engine
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QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Apr 16 2014, 09:03 PM)
vroom vroom

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wat vroom?
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QUOTE(kakakkiwi @ Apr 16 2014, 09:03 PM)
wat vroom?
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u kantoi ts of coz gonna rage war soon
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u don understand the meaning of vroom, dont u -.-
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I have a group of Utarian friends who claimed that, Utar is high quality compare to public U.

Evidence? Utar fail rate is higher. 10 ppl go in, 4 ppl graduate. Whereas, in public U, 10 ppl go in, almost 10 ppl graduate.




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QUOTE(kakakkiwi @ Apr 16 2014, 09:06 PM)
u don understand the meaning of vroom, dont u -.-
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i know ler... blush.gif racing ma. tongue.gif


anyway, i kesian those students who studied really hard and got bash like no tomorrow.


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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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r u retarded ?

jump or no jump building is that one person's EQ issue, why die die wanna relate it to UTAR or where he/she study ?
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Apr 16 2014, 09:10 PM)
r u retarded ?

jump or no jump building is that one person's EQ issue, why die die wanna relate it to UTAR or where he/she study ?
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stop feeding this retarded ts, he cant finish his own fyp.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3191511&hl=



i bet he don even dare tell peoples which 'u' he's from.
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Apr 16 2014, 09:10 PM)
r u retarded ?

jump or no jump building is that one person's EQ issue, why die die wanna relate it to UTAR or where he/she study ?
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Somebody finally point it out.


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QUOTE(kakakkiwi @ Apr 16 2014, 09:12 PM)
stop feeding this retarded ts, he cant finish his own fyp.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3191511&hl=
i bet he don even dare tell peoples which 'u' he's from.
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lol, kecian...
well, at least he rant at /k instead of 14 floor....

QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Apr 16 2014, 09:12 PM)
Somebody finally point it out.
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i just cant believe this topic reach 6 page ....
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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Apr 16 2014, 09:15 PM)
lol, kecian...
well, at least he rant at /k instead of 14 floor....
i just cant believe this topic reach 6 page ....
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all they want to bash is the quality of uni/college

enough said

follow trend, heard about that?
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QUOTE(kakakkiwi @ Apr 16 2014, 09:12 PM)
stop feeding this retarded ts, he cant finish his own fyp.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3191511&hl=
i bet he don even dare tell peoples which 'u' he's from.
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 12 2014, 11:10 PM)
retake almost 10k include living cost.. outsource 3k confirm get A  icon_idea.gif
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That is how he earned his grade. inb4 Ts is someone who grad with high quality by just slacking around.

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QUOTE(staind @ Apr 16 2014, 09:08 PM)
I have a group of Utarian friends who claimed that, Utar is high quality compare to public U.

Evidence? Utar fail rate is higher. 10 ppl go in, 4 ppl graduate. Whereas, in public U, 10 ppl go in, almost 10 ppl graduate.
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By that logic, safe to say your UTARian friends are stupid.
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UTAR =/= KTAR. Learn the difference.
I have to agree that the level of English proficiency here in UTAR is downright terrible.
I disagree with the fact that the examination here is easy though. Tips are non-existent unlike some of the other private universities. There is no such thing as a study break either. It's 15 weeks of lecture, tutorials and practicals followed by finals without any breaks.
Keep in mind that I'm only speaking for those who aims to score. Passing is fairly easy here in UTAR, but scoring is a whole different story.
And I think the stress only comes during mid semester when all of the assignments start simultaneously. Did I mention that we cannot resit for an exam? Retaking the whole unit is the only option if you've failed.

I've been exposed to a fair number of tests questions ( and past year finals) by many other private universities with the help of friends, and I have to say, UTAR rides in the top tier in terms of difficulty and complexity. I've used Foundation in Science papers ( and similar subjects from other courses )to compare, so as to be fair.
If you're curious, those universities ( and 1 college ) are Sunway, Monash(MUFY), KTAR, Taylors, UTP, MMU, and INTI.
So it's a bit unfair to judge UTAR without even catching a glimpse of what the top scorers here are going through. Period.
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QUOTE(staind @ Apr 16 2014, 09:08 PM)
I have a group of Utarian friends who claimed that, Utar is high quality compare to public U.

Evidence? Utar fail rate is higher. 10 ppl go in, 4 ppl graduate. Whereas, in public U, 10 ppl go in, almost 10 ppl graduate.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Apr 16 2014, 09:40 PM)
By that logic, safe to say your UTARian friends are stupid.
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Ain't that too harsh, hirano.
The higher fail rate in UTAR is mostly due to the presence of many students that shouldn't be here in the first place. UTAR accepts any Tom, d*** and Harry.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 16 2014, 09:46 PM)
Ain't that too harsh, hirano.
The higher fail rate in UTAR is mostly due to the presence of many students that shouldn't be here in the first place. UTAR accepts any Tom, d*** and Harry.
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Then raise the bar for entrance. Accepting anyone with crappy academic result aint helping. Then go suicide, blame bn, blame lge, blame fader mader, blame whoever else.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 16 2014, 09:42 PM)
UTAR =/= KTAR. Learn the difference.
I have to agree that the level of English proficiency here in UTAR is downright terrible.
I disagree with the fact that the examination here is easy though. Tips are non-existent unlike some of the other private universities. There is no such thing as a study break either. It's 15 weeks of lecture, tutorials and practicals followed by finals without any breaks.
Keep in mind that I'm only speaking for those who aims to score. Passing is fairly easy here in UTAR, but scoring is a whole different story.
And I think the stress only comes during mid semester when all of the assignments start simultaneously. Did I mention that we cannot resit for an exam? Retaking the whole unit is the only option if you've failed.

I've been exposed to a fair number of tests questions ( and past year finals) by many other private universities with the help of friends, and I have to say, UTAR rides in the top tier in terms of difficulty and complexity. I've used Foundation in Science papers ( and similar subjects from other courses )to compare, so as to be fair.
If you're curious, those universities ( and 1 college ) are Sunway, Monash(MUFY), KTAR, Taylors, UTP, MMU, and INTI.
So it's a bit unfair to judge UTAR without even catching a glimpse of what the top scorers here are going through. Period.
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Read my reply to jumpermist on the 5th page.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 16 2014, 09:42 PM)
UTAR =/= KTAR. Learn the difference.
I have to agree that the level of English proficiency here in UTAR is downright terrible.
I disagree with the fact that the examination here is easy though. Tips are non-existent unlike some of the other private universities. There is no such thing as a study break either. It's 15 weeks of lecture, tutorials and practicals followed by finals without any breaks.
Keep in mind that I'm only speaking for those who aims to score. Passing is fairly easy here in UTAR, but scoring is a whole different story.
And I think the stress only comes during mid semester when all of the assignments start simultaneously. Did I mention that we cannot resit for an exam? Retaking the whole unit is the only option if you've failed.

I've been exposed to a fair number of tests questions ( and past year finals) by many other private universities with the help of friends, and I have to say, UTAR rides in the top tier in terms of difficulty and complexity. I've used Foundation in Science papers ( and similar subjects from other courses )to compare, so as to be fair.
If you're curious, those universities ( and 1 college ) are Sunway, Monash(MUFY), KTAR, Taylors, UTP, MMU, and INTI.
So it's a bit unfair to judge UTAR without even catching a glimpse of what the top scorers here are going through. Period.
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 06:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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lately I see those fresh grad ppl more weak in physical or mental. hmm.gif
need to blame on their parents who make them what right now?
too much caring and protective?
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QUOTE(staind @ Apr 16 2014, 09:08 PM)
I have a group of Utarian friends who claimed that, Utar is high quality compare to public U.

Evidence? Utar fail rate is higher. 10 ppl go in, 4 ppl graduate. Whereas, in public U, 10 ppl go in, almost 10 ppl graduate.
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really a poor judgment, fail rate do not prove anything about the quality doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

do really people know what does quality means or not? doh.gif doh.gif
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ITT, kebodohan yang teramat.

You don't go to local universities to get "tough education", "grind through classes". You go there for the high quality communities.

You get connections, learn from domain experts/peers and so on. You grind domain skills that you cannot get from going to classes. Classes are just basic supplements. If you need to "grind" through it and feel that it is difficult, you're doing it wrong.


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QUOTE(hirano @ Apr 16 2014, 08:52 PM)
And do you think that UTAR is the only uni in Malaysia where you can't resit for the exam again if you failed?

Nope.

Those who failed the foundation, can go saupei la. People can go on "reading" (yes, reading) the whole textbook, but still get an E grade. They do not know the technique of studying (which may differ from person to person).

You said that sem break is only 2 weeks? Study more than other uni? Haha. Bet they only take like what... 4 subjects per semester? Meh. You want to compare, please compare the subjects number and credit hours.
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Yes, studying techniques are important and good grades cannot be justified by merely hard work as opposed to what is taught in SJKC's.
I don't think we study more than other universities though our sem breaks are short. Personally, I think my lecturers don't cover enough to equip us properly for the finals. shakehead.gif Touch N Go is the best way I could describe it. That's why students are often in for a surprise during their finals.
For Foundation, we take 5 subjects for 3 trimester. Meaning 15 subjects in a year. As for degree, my course dictates that we take 5-7 subjects during long semesters and 1-4 during short ones.
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That degree/diploma is just a passport,like SPM.You will need it to go places,but you still need your wits,attitude and social skills to carry you around comfortably.Getting a degree/diploma does not mean the world owes you something,it's just a 'coolie'fication.
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Apr 16 2014, 10:10 PM)
ITT, kebodohan yang teramat.

You don't go to local universities to get "tough education", "grind through classes". You go there for the high quality communities.

You get connections, learn from domain experts/peers and so on. You grind domain skills that you cannot get from going to classes. Classes are just basic supplements. If you need to "grind" through it and feel that it is difficult, you're doing it wrong.
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This. It's not about the tough education. It's about all the people you meet and the experiences you get during the journey. Sadly, UTAR focuses on the former.
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Apr 16 2014, 10:10 PM)
ITT, kebodohan yang teramat.

You don't go to local universities to get "tough education", "grind through classes". You go there for the high quality communities.

You get connections, learn from domain experts/peers and so on. You grind domain skills that you cannot get from going to classes. Classes are just basic supplements. If you need to "grind" through it and feel that it is difficult, you're doing it wrong.
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One thing you should know, ppl tend to perceive on brand itself.

For example, ppl would prefer someone like ts who grad from University Malaya but he got through by cheating in his fyi, compared to other brand that being perceived as inferior like Tarc,Utar,Uitm, and etc.

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post Apr 16 2014, 10:28 PM

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i dont giv a f* during in class but i pass all , never fail in my life and holding 1st class bachelor now. what so hard? stop complain and just do it la. Complain complain no use.

There is always student studying so hard but fail and student who sleep in class but pass with flying colours. smile.gif

study is only a stepping stone to start better in career la, why so serious. too serious and be a loser . This is to all student who is in ktar and utar.

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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:28 PM)
i dont giv a f* during in class but i pass all , never fail in my life and holding 1st class bachelor now. what so hard? stop complain and just do it la. Complain complain no use.

There is always student studying so hard but fail and student who sleep in class but pass with flying colours.  smile.gif

study is only a stepping stone to start better in career la, why so serious. too serious and be a loser . This is to all student who is in ktar and utar.
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It's a nice sentiment but lu ktar ke utar. tongue.gif
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utar ez get in, hard get out.
those cannot speak england is from cina sch, so dun blame utar.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 16 2014, 10:38 PM)
It's a nice sentiment but lu ktar ke utar.  tongue.gif
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i ktar bro, i believe what school also same. be smart. lol
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 16 2014, 10:15 PM)
This. It's not about the tough education. It's about all the people you meet and the experiences you get during the journey. Sadly, UTAR focuses on the former.
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cough cough, is it really the case? tongue.gif

Birds of the same feather flock together.

QUOTE(YKayz @ Apr 16 2014, 10:20 PM)
One thing you should know, ppl tend to perceive on brand itself.

For example, ppl would prefer someone like ts who grad from University Malaya but he got through by cheating in his fyi, compared to other brand that being perceived as inferior like Tarc,Utar,Uitm, and etc.
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Meh, the brand is established by the quality of the students. If the students are shite, the brand is going to be crap.

On the industrial level, this is an open secret. Everyone nitpicks based on branding. Saves a bloody lot of time. This is mere game of statistics.

What's so difficult about that?

Besides, if that particular individual cheated and got through his life successfully with this tactic, can you really fault his logic? Most people are cunts anyway. If you aren't competent, you'd get squashed anyway.




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In China even lecturers compete for the same jobs which their fresh grads are applying and similar pay asking.

You say?

Education overrated. Too common nowadays, too many drones aiming at a valueless paper.
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QUOTE(sgt goebellx @ Apr 15 2014, 11:25 PM)
in my experience of working in my line , UTAR student's English are horrible
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100% agree

really f***ed up doh.gif
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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Apr 16 2014, 09:08 PM)
Here:
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owh punctuation also considered lol, just say can't diff. A from B.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Apr 16 2014, 08:52 PM)
And do you think that UTAR is the only uni in Malaysia where you can't resit for the exam again if you failed?

Nope.

Those who failed the foundation, can go saupei la. People can go on "reading" (yes, reading) the whole textbook, but still get an E grade. They do not know the technique of studying (which may differ from person to person).

You said that sem break is only 2 weeks? Study more than other uni? Haha. Bet they only take like what... 4 subjects per semester? Meh. You want to compare, please compare the subjects number and credit hours.
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Oh so I really don't know if any U in Malaysia is like that can't resit the paper but generally speaking most can right ?

Erm who told you about 4 subjects a semester ? That only happen to short semesters which is only 1 time in a year, 2/3 subjects for 7 lecture-week, max 12 credit hours. Normal trimester mostly 5/6 subjects, 14 lecture-week, max 21 credit hours.

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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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QUOTE(xtylish @ Apr 16 2014, 10:41 PM)
utar ez get in, hard get out.
those cannot speak england is from cina sch, so dun blame utar.
kthxbai
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easy get in lagi easy get out lar bro.
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I gained an ability on how to trash talk the moment I graduated.

Although I never learned mandarin during the process. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TheSecRet @ Apr 16 2014, 12:27 AM)
Yes I am from UTAR.
Please differentiate between UTAR and TARUC.
Utar students' English is horrible? Say who?
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lol.. u butthurt??
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QUOTE(jumpermist @ Apr 17 2014, 02:00 PM)
easy get in lagi easy get out lar bro.
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nope. easy get in, hard to get out with good grades.

many ppl cannot survive throughout the semesters, aka failed, repeat, fail, repeat until no money to repeat or give up. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:41 PM)
i ktar bro, i believe what school also same. be smart. lol
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dun simply assume all school r the same, they r not, they r unlike ur ktar; try to apply NUS.. no need la, UM enough..

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QUOTE(jumpermist @ Apr 17 2014, 01:59 PM)
Oh so I really don't know if any U in Malaysia is like that can't resit the paper but generally speaking most can right ?

Erm who told you about 4 subjects a semester ? That only happen to short semesters which is only 1 time in a year, 2/3 subjects for 7 lecture-week, max 12 credit hours. Normal trimester mostly 5/6 subjects, 14 lecture-week, max 21 credit hours.
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My uni cant resit exam if fail, retake whole subject next sem. This is public uni. Im sure that some other public uni use this system, too.

What i mean is the whole total credit hours and number of subjects accumulated for all sem. That is the amount that you should compare.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Apr 16 2014, 09:40 PM)
By that logic, safe to say your UTARian friends are stupid.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 16 2014, 09:46 PM)
Ain't that too harsh, hirano.
The higher fail rate in UTAR is mostly due to the presence of many students that shouldn't be here in the first place. UTAR accepts any Tom, d*** and Harry.
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QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Apr 16 2014, 10:10 PM)
really a poor judgment, fail rate do not prove anything about the quality doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

do really people know what does quality means or not? doh.gif  doh.gif
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Exactly, so there goes the quality. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ah kuang @ Apr 15 2014, 11:06 PM)
skit2 dah nak jump building..

and I really x tahan seeing comments by many utarian, claiming hw farking hard it is to survive in utar.

padahal ppl in uni like nothingham, monash and mmu xde pun bising..

try to inspect these 2 saying :
1. one who always fail in exam in utar claims utar is farking hard
2. mmu first class who dont claim mmu is hard

who will u believe in? oh wai utar ppl ayam disappointed, go study more and stop complaints!

(one more thing, if u r good why end up in utar? lol)
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