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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V6.1, Please Read Post #1

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post Apr 22 2014, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(sylille @ Apr 21 2014, 11:56 PM)
Was told by Maybank that they have FD promo - 3mths @ 3.40 pa. Min Deposit RM25K. Promo ends 30 April 2014 or until fully subscribed. Forgotten to ask if it is Islamic or Conventional FD or what is the size of the fund.
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Hi sylille, long time no post.. smile.gif I can still remember your ocbc 5% FD 2 years back.
Thought you have moved on beyond FD and no longer playing musical chair game.
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post Apr 22 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Apr 22 2014, 10:33 PM)
Top Goat,

I think you are not aware of this:
Recently I discovered that BR pays monthly interest to my
BR saving account after 4.00am or later than 4.00am, which
they used to pay monthly interest right after 12.01am
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laugh.gif 4am. notworthy.gif Normally I checked at 7-8am, and it is in my SA.
4am must be by the system, it also mean BR has automated your monthly interest crediting? Congrats! thumbup.gif

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post Apr 22 2014, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Apr 22 2014, 11:26 PM)
What do you mean..?
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I read that you have to fax to remind BR to do monthly interest posting into your SA.
For those postings should be immediate and should be within office hour (9am-5pm) as it is done by the staff.
(Maybe my understanding is wrong, for BR case that also got posted at mid-night as you mentioned.)
So now it is 4-9am (non-working hours) should be automated posting.
Do you still remind them every month?
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post Apr 24 2014, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(safilo @ Apr 23 2014, 11:05 PM)
As I know, FD interest calculated daily for the tenure of the placement.
Interest is given on the date of placement/deposit to the date before the maturity date, i.e. to say does not include the date of maturity.

On the maturity date, customer is free to use the fund for whatever purpose, eg. reinvested in another Fd placement, put into saving or pay loan etc. If bank will to give FD interest for maturity date, it will deem that the same fund enjoy 2 times interest for 1 day. Bank will lose out paying interest twice for the same fund and customer gain. I have verified a couple of previous placement in OCBC and the interest paid does not include the maturity date.
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Apr 24 2014, 07:51 AM)
Interesting, I have learned something which I have ignored for the past so many years from you guys about this last day interest !  nod.gif  notworthy.gif  Believe there are others also don't even think about this.
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Yes, my understanding is also the same that no interest for the maturity date.
Take the simple example for those who has tried monthly auto-renewal eFD..
(1) 1st placement @ 5th Jan and matured @ 5th Feb (earliest to uplift w/o scarifying interest is on 5th Feb, i.e. fund must stay on until 5th Feb, interest counted is based on 31 days : from 5th Jan to 4th Feb, inclusive of both dates)
(2) Auto renewal @ 5th Feb and matured @ 5th Mar (interest for 5th Feb is part of this placement, i.e. 28 days from 5th Feb to 4th Mar, inclusive of both dates)
(3) Auto renewal @ 5th Mar and matured @ 5th Apr
(4) and so on...
If interest is given to maturity date, then depositor will gain additional one day of interest for each renewal due to double counting. icon_rolleyes.gif

I found an easier way to comprehend this is that if my fund stay through the night then I get the interest for that day. laugh.gif That is how I compute those daily interest or ADB (Average Daily Balance) type of schemes, and verify to what the banks have given me. So far my calculation matches to the actual interest I get from the banks. nod.gif

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post Apr 24 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 24 2014, 10:00 AM)
Your method of interest calculation is absolutely right.
That's what Interbank Bank Overnight Rate calculate too.

For easy understanding, today bank in > overnight > tomorrow withdraw, that's is one day interest. Only count the overnight day and omit the day of withdrawal.
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Thanks for the confirmation. thumbup.gif
So far I only learn through experiences and share my findings here. tongue.gif

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post Apr 24 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Apr 24 2014, 10:57 AM)
To calculate the days you need to use spreadsheet so it will be less confusing, manually count is ancient ways during our grandfather time can consider ok... tongue.gif
367 days is correct calc.
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Apr 24 2014, 11:09 AM)
Ha ha, for simple calculation, exercise the brain lah.  tongue.gif 

I am not a computer junkie (not good with Excel formula). Just do 365 days (unless it is a leap year) then add the 2 days. Keep my mind active.  biggrin.gif
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Yes, I use Excel too, especially those FD promo with ADB interest calculation. sweat.gif
And I use Excel to calculate daily interest for my MBB m2u Saver acct (with fund moving in and out) that give 2.1%p.a. on daily balances. So far matches the monthly credited interests. nod.gif
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post Apr 28 2014, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Apr 28 2014, 05:39 PM)
I don't know. That's why I'm asking laugh.gif

I only did e-FD in the past so all these FD with certs is a whole new concept to me  sweat.gif
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As far as I know, for BR, we need to go and request for new FD certs, as the printed maturity date has passed.
I used to see other banks' certs (smaller than half A4 size) can be "updated" by printing a line at the back of the certs, but BR one (full A4 size) just looks different. sweat.gif
I requested for new certs post maturity for mine, main reason was to re-nego for better rate and get a fresh certs for peace of mind. drool.gif
You may want to call their CS to confirm.
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post May 2 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ May 2 2014, 01:52 PM)
The ABM of the bank was too suspicious... sweat.gif
No joking...Please check your iRakyat account, FD interest has been paid on 1 May..
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Ooo...I received that too. Thanks for reminding... laugh.gif



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post May 2 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ May 2 2014, 02:22 PM)
You just IBG the fund?
Yours is 5 years FD?
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No lah...my FD did not start on 1st of month...
I always IBG on the day of interest...this month not yet harvesting day...
Mine 2-years.

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post May 2 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ May 2 2014, 02:29 PM)
Oh..I see

This is quite strange.. I received monthly interest on 1 May but the interest was calculated
based on the remaining days after my FD maturity date in April..  hmm.gif
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I think what you get is the SA interest. So your previous FD matured and all goes into your SA?
If you expect it to be auto renew as new FD, better call them to check.
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post May 2 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ May 2 2014, 03:43 PM)
Wow ! You are right !  notworthy.gif I thought you were joking earlier !  rclxub.gif

I checked my accounts there. Both of my accounts have the below:

S20 009 INTER-A/C TRANSFER

though one of the acct has only one, another one has 3 of the above with different amt deposited !

Funny, would need to enquire more on that!
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Nope, mine due on 7th, no FD interest posted for these 2 days. hmm.gif
What are your FD monthly due days that get the interests?.

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post May 2 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ May 2 2014, 03:59 PM)
I have >10 certs. But the earliest due date is 4th. There is no way that can tell from the online account which FD interest is paid!  rclxub.gif

Too general:
S20 009 INTER-A/C TRANSFER
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Okay...if you have several FDs with same amount then can't tell.
Err, wait, I think you can still find out by calculating based on daily interest. Time to exercise the brain a bit. tongue.gif laugh.gif
I guess, if the new interest policy is true, there might be some rules they apply.

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post May 2 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ May 2 2014, 04:20 PM)
Friend, I have been using my brain, maybe a bit too much. How dare you ................... hmm.gif  brows.gif

The acct that have the bigger FD amount has only one smaller amt credited as compared to the other one having 3 bigger amt deposited.  hmm.gif
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laugh.gif Sorry.... What I actually mean was put them into Excel lah...I won't be able to calculate daily interest with my brain alone either. tongue.gif
Small amount mean lesser days (near April end), bigger amount mean more days (early April).
Only you can work out that calculation, unless you tell us all the numbers and dates. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 7 2014, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ May 5 2014, 09:02 PM)
I do tend to agree there is some glitch somewhere for BR. As the month progress, those FD due one can proof to that effect. 2 of my FD due this month received normal FD for the last 30 days (April 30 days only). Some more FD due 2, 3 days later.

Not sure of other BR regulars.  hmm.gif
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Mine seems not impacted...still credited on the dot as before. Just IBG out as usual. thumbup.gif
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post May 23 2014, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ May 22 2014, 07:49 PM)
Already put in the max amt to EPF. Wish me luck !  tongue.gif  I am quite sure it will turns out to be O ..........K ................  tongue.gif
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Wow, another year max out? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
One shot one form or multiple forms/visits?
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post Jun 7 2014, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jun 5 2014, 11:28 PM)
Almost forgotten about the BR 1st of month interest credit issue. Just checked and for those Mubeen FD, they still credit the interest on 1/6.

BCC, please check yours. So only Mubeen FD is doing this.
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Certificate No.xxxxxxxxxxx
Account No.xxxxxxxxxxx
Account Holder Namexxxxxxxxxxx
Product NameAKAUN DEPOSIT-I BERJANGKA
DescriptionMy Shares

My cert with product name as above is not affected by this "1st of month interest crediting" change.
Can you share the product name and description of your Mubeen FDs that were affected?
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post Aug 3 2014, 09:15 AM

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I remember reading here that some forumers think/expect the MBSB FD will automatically become PIDM protected once MBSB merged with CIMB.
My thinking is... it may not necessarily be the case.
A financial institution whom is a member of PIDM does not mean all their products are PIDM protected.
They can likely left MBSB FD stay as-is, i.e. non-PIDM protected post-merger.
I have seen (based on my experience) banks that have non-PIDM protected products though they are a member of PIDM. For example this MBB investment acct is not PIDM protected.
Just my 2 cents. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 3 2014, 09:26 AM

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Quite excited to see so many FD promo lately...
Most of my "long-range missiles" have been deployed, can't take anything > 6-mth. tongue.gif

Due to conveniences, I have tried the MBB 3+3 merdeka promo with effective rate of 3.73%.
I visited the counter and transferred fund from my other mbb acct.

At first was happy that the form has the option to indicate transfer to mbb acct upon maturity. So no need to re-visit the branch to uplift the FD upon maturity. But it was a short-lived joy as the teller say NO, I have to select auto renewal and need to come back to same branch to uplift. Reason was it is a 3+3 FD and not 6-mth FD. mad.gif Tricky MBB...

The back of the cert did printed the interest rates for the first 3-mth, the next 3-mth will need to be printed 3 month later.
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post Aug 8 2014, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(michaelho @ Aug 7 2014, 07:04 PM)
Still available . Direct 6 months @ 3.73% effective rate, No option to withdraw after 3months. Rates like below :
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Another new FD promo by MBB? But seems slightly lower than the 3+3 promo.

(3+3+3.25+3.25+3.5+6)/6=3.67%

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