
Look at that. Pure man driving manual
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V60, Y U NO READ FIRST PAGE!!?!?!
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Apr 17 2014, 10:15 PM
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![]() Look at that. Pure man driving manual |
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Apr 17 2014, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Apr 17 2014, 06:31 PM) Hey guys, been using XM1 n now using XM2. the sidewall tend to become 'gemuk' like insuffice air only after few months installed.I've allocated some money for my car and I have these options: 1) Change both front 13" tyres from the m3's to Michelin XM2 + do 4 doors soundproofing 2) Change all 13" tyres to Michelin xm2 3) Find used 14" saga rims + Michelin xm2 tyres Suggestions? I don't want to compromise on comfort but I want the additional grip from the tyres. Will the change from silverstone to michelin give better tyre grip although they're of the same width? Thanks enibodi observe dis? Isit normal? grip quite good, even in wet road/rain. but i feel tarmac noise quite high...need find Mahihi for dat 😝 |
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Apr 17 2014, 11:23 PM
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Discovered a 'secret' in reduce NVH of Saga.
I installed 4 spring buffers last Saturday. Immediately my car low frequency road roar -50% when ride on those worn tarmac road, heard by my ear, and can feel from my steering feedback, those micro vibration of the steering wheel just gone. This answered my own speculation that Saga bad NVH is mainly contributed by suspension. The suspension can't absorb those tiny particles on the worn tarmac road, the micro vibration when the tyre ride on those surface is transmitted to car body to become a large resonant object through spring and absorber. I'm not sure is there any bush in between suspension topmount and car body or not, but by adding rubber coil spring buffer is just effectively deadening the vibration transmitted through spring to the body, hence stop the low frequency road roar. Just share my experience, hope it helps those who want their ride quieter. This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 17 2014, 11:33 PM |
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Apr 17 2014, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(aredill @ Apr 17 2014, 11:00 PM) been using XM1 n now using XM2. the sidewall tend to become 'gemuk' like insuffice air only after few months installed. I switch from Continental CC5 to XM2 for almost 10 months now.enibodi observe dis? Isit normal? grip quite good, even in wet road/rain. but i feel tarmac noise quite high...need find Mahihi for dat 😝 XM2 is never a silent tyre, its comfort level is overrated by forumer especially in Malaysia forum. A bit regret to change to this tyre in terms of comfort. My cousin who using XM2 also same opinion as me. But the thread wear is very good, now almost 26k, the tyre thread still have 70%, in other words i have to bare with this noisy tyre for long long time before change it. This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 17 2014, 11:34 PM |
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Apr 17 2014, 11:32 PM
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Apr 17 2014, 11:43 PM
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oi later post dyno result can ah? wit list of mod u guys do on ur car, just for reference can? hehe
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Apr 17 2014, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 17 2014, 11:23 PM) Discovered a 'secret' in reduce NVH of Saga. nice trick...mybe worth trying. Btw...what is NVH stand for?? Sori ayam noob.I installed 4 spring buffers last Saturday. Immediately my car low frequency road roar -50% when ride on those worn tarmac road, heard by my ear, and can feel from my steering feedback, those micro vibration of the steering wheel just gone. This answered my own speculation that Saga bad NVH is mainly contributed by suspension. The suspension can't absorb those tiny particles on the worn tarmac road, the micro vibration when the tyre ride on those surface is transmitted to car body to become a large resonant object through spring and absorber. I'm not sure is there any bush in between suspension topmount and car body or not, but by adding rubber coil spring buffer is just effectively deadening the vibration transmitted through spring to the body, hence stop the low frequency road roar. Just share my experience, hope it helps those who want their ride quieter. mind to share what type/brand spring buffer? or mybe u kind enuf donate me one set. oso wut size gaga use eh....noob again 😅 |
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Apr 17 2014, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 17 2014, 11:29 PM) I switch from Continental CC5 to XM2 for almost 10 months now. no regret for me...its grip giv me moar cnfidence.XM2 is never a silent tyre, its comfort level is overrated by forumer especially in Malaysia forum. A bit regret to change to this tyre in terms of comfort. My cousin who using XM2 also same opinion as me. But the thread wear is very good, now almost 26k, the tyre thread still have 70%, in other words i have to bare with this noisy tyre for long long time before change it. michelin designed it for long lasting...till forgot to rotate. |
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Apr 18 2014, 12:17 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:21 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:24 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 17 2014, 11:23 PM) Discovered a 'secret' in reduce NVH of Saga. Oteh! Next week, 8x spling barfer will be on I installed 4 spring buffers last Saturday. Immediately my car low frequency road roar -50% when ride on those worn tarmac road, heard by my ear, and can feel from my steering feedback, those micro vibration of the steering wheel just gone. This answered my own speculation that Saga bad NVH is mainly contributed by suspension. The suspension can't absorb those tiny particles on the worn tarmac road, the micro vibration when the tyre ride on those surface is transmitted to car body to become a large resonant object through spring and absorber. I'm not sure is there any bush in between suspension topmount and car body or not, but by adding rubber coil spring buffer is just effectively deadening the vibration transmitted through spring to the body, hence stop the low frequency road roar. Just share my experience, hope it helps those who want their ride quieter. |
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Apr 18 2014, 12:35 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 18 2014, 12:35 AM) i used to have spring buffers, but they get crushed so hard by the time i sold the front springs off they look damn bad lol U wil be surprised the recent few weeks my top speed not even hit 140kph |
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Apr 18 2014, 12:38 AM
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is a nightmare for me those buffer,installed less than 1 month,then buang,lols...with the buffer on,the car will just bounce basically everywhere...
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Apr 18 2014, 12:46 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Apr 18 2014, 12:38 AM) is a nightmare for me those buffer,installed less than 1 month,then buang,lols...with the buffer on,the car will just bounce basically everywhere... It makes no different for me the last time I used them when I'm on stock spring. The only thing I got was less sagat, and seldom hear the spring get fully compressed and emit the loud knocking sound when I go rally. |
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Apr 18 2014, 12:47 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:49 AM
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Apr 18 2014, 12:54 AM
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