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Technical 3 Blinking Red Lights Of Death..Is it the END?, Can it be fixed or is it the end of it..

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post Sep 12 2007, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Taman Linkin @ Sep 11 2007, 03:05 PM)
Aluminium foil is too thin lol. I use aluminium that people use to attach the windows frame when building a house. My father say can get it at hardware shop selling those batu-bata and those construction thingies. Forgot the name already... I'll ask him later.
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I like you use the word "ubat gigi" laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Sep 11 2007, 08:30 PM)
looks like my xbox error code is 4442 lights . 0002 i think . is this network problem or power supply problem . any cure for this problem cry.gif
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Wow... looks like ur xbox is dead sad.gif sorry man... network prob caused by dead network chip inside... and no way to fix it ourselves...
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post Sep 12 2007, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Sep 11 2007, 08:30 PM)
looks like my xbox error code is 4442 lights . 0002 i think . is this network problem or power supply problem . any cure for this problem cry.gif
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This what happens if you blindly trying to repair on your own. The biggest mistake was, you were using hairdryer. Using hairdryer/heatgun/hotgun is the only last resort and make sure you really know what you're doing with it.

You also posted saying you saw sparks came from your mainboard. If that is the case, your X360 is totally dead. Get a new one. My condolences to you.

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post Sep 12 2007, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(tot31 @ Sep 12 2007, 08:29 AM)
This what happens if you blindly trying to repair on your own. The biggest mistake was, you were using hairdryer. Using hairdryer/heatgun/hotgun is the only last resort and make sure you really know what you're doing with it.

You also posted saying you saw sparks came from your mainboard. If that is the case, your X360 is totally dead. Get a new one. My condolences to you.
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actually the xclamp was a success 2 weeks ago . but it 3rol . then i fix it back but using the cheap thermal paste then it when smooth . 3 times it didn't 3rol . but something is problem that is . it goes 2rol after 2 minutes ( roughly i cannot go to stage 3 with Dead Or Alive 4 story mode ) . then i put it again . then it goes 3rol forever .. now the error code is 4421 / 4420 .. rclxm9.gif

do i need to check the error code before doing the xclamp .

if i seeing 3rol i cannot do the xclamp or i need to check the right error for the xclamp fix ? .. hmm.gif
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post Sep 12 2007, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Sep 12 2007, 11:41 AM)
actually the xclamp was a success 2 weeks ago . but it 3rol . then i fix it back but using the cheap thermal paste then it when smooth . 3 times it didn't 3rol . but something is problem that is . it goes 2rol after 2 minutes ( roughly i cannot go to stage 3 with Dead Or Alive 4 story mode ) . then i put it again . then it goes 3rol forever .. now the error code is 4421 / 4420 ..  rclxm9.gif

do i need to check the error code before doing the xclamp .

if i seeing 3rol i cannot do the xclamp or i need to check the right error for the xclamp fix ? ..  hmm.gif
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which means the thermal paste heat transfer cacat~. laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2007, 03:34 PM

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maybe u missed something
ur last action determind wherether it will be sucseed or not
how bout pm person know bout that

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post Sep 12 2007, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Sep 11 2007, 01:52 PM)
Well i think my 3rod story kinda like this at first i do the xclamp it was a success at first . it will stay for 2 till 3 days . then it 3rod . then the next day i apply the cheap thermal paste and then it fix . but i try one game that is the DOA 4, i will go 2rol after 2 match battle. i try the XBL game also it will overheat for 2 minutes ( this is because i apply the cheap 6 ringgit thermal paste )

then the next day i bought the Arctic COoling MX2 ( the 48 ringgit thermal paste ) . ok i put it on the thermal paste ( of coz i clean the cheap thermal paste with alcohol before applying the expensive thermal paste ) do the xclamp ( bought the screws and washers from Djinn ) . i turn it up . it flash 3rol and 4 or 5 minutes it go 2 ROl ..so i open the console again and tighten the screws ( not that to tight , i follow all the youtube videos, metacafe, the lowyat videos, the all google xclamp guide etc ) it was a failure . no green lights

then the next day . i try the towel trick . i put all the towels, i let it out ( i watch the bleach movie for 1 hour 30 minutes ) i open the towels etc it shows 2rol but actually it was 3rol flashing all the time .  hmm.gif still was a failure .

then i try the rubber , eraser fix . ( brazilian fix ka apa ni .  doh.gif ) it didn't work . the rubbers crush flawlessly into the metal case . waste 1.80 sen .

i try the penis fix  laugh.gif . i don't know if the 1 sen syiling is copper or not .  laugh.gif  ok i try it with double tape . 3 sen on each 4 ram . it didn't work also .

lastly i use the hair dryer . i hair dryer all the motherboard, till it sparks . wow the motherboard can make fire . ha ha ha  laugh.gif

ok now i want to check the reset plus the eject 4 times ( now i know this from tailgunner , thanks man .  laugh.gif  ) . i will check the failures .

i don't know whether this will be the key for fixing my xbox or not . cause all i know that my box flash the 3 lights and therefore i got 3rod ftw . doh.gif  thumbup.gif  vmad.gif  laugh.gif
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WHAT? you did it till it sparking? I think you better check every component or stop trying to revive your console. You didn't cover every plastic parts or components with aluminium foil? Lucky you only did it with hairdryer, not a real heatgun that use to melting paint. Now can you imagine what will happen then?

You said you get your washer and skrew from Djinn right? In that case you only need 1 on top and 1 at bottom of mainboard. That is enough. There are two different size (thickness) of washer we're talking here. Me and Tot31 using M5 (1,2 - 0,8mm) and Djinn using M10 (2,3 - 1,7mm) or M12 (2,8 - 2,2mm). So thats mean we are using 2 washer equal to 1 that Djinn are using. So don't get confuse with some opinion on what numbers are ideal for it.

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QUOTE(metalgrindsolid @ Sep 12 2007, 03:54 PM)
WHAT? you did it till it sparking? I think you better check every component or stop trying to revive your console. You didn't cover every plastic parts or components with aluminium foil? Lucky you only did it with hairdryer, not a real heatgun that use to melting paint. Now can you imagine what will happen then?

You said you get your washer and skrew from Djinn right? In that case you only need 1 on top and 1 at  bottom of mainboard. That is enough. There are two different size (thickness) of washer we're talking here. Me and Tot31 using M5 (1,2 - 0,8mm) and Djinn using M10 (2,3 - 1,7mm) or M12 (2,8 - 2,2mm). So thats mean we are using 2 washer equal to 1 that Djinn are using. So don't get confuse with some opinion on what numbers are ideal for it.
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I think rhoyo see too much guides until he got confuse already.
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post Sep 12 2007, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Sep 12 2007, 03:58 PM)
I think rhoyo see too much guides until he got confuse already.
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Seperti tikus yg cuba membaiki labu.... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2007, 04:18 PM

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He learn so many things now and he's already one foot step to the world of modding biggrin.gif .
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QUOTE(metalgrindsolid @ Sep 12 2007, 04:18 PM)
He learn so many things now and he's already one foot step to the world of modding  biggrin.gif .
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and a very expensive experience biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2007, 05:30 PM

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need dr.virgils help...

mine every week kena 3rod..then every week have to tighten and loosen the screw...

is there anything else to do..

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post Sep 12 2007, 05:35 PM

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water cooling anyone? tongue.gif

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post Sep 12 2007, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(grandhiz @ Sep 12 2007, 05:30 PM)
need dr.virgils help...

mine every week kena 3rod..then every week have to tighten and loosen the screw...

is there anything else to do..

haih
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Used to have that prob. Use the shim method. It will fix it.
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post Sep 12 2007, 08:23 PM

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i have received a 3rod 360 and is fix before at KL.... well 1st i was shocked when i try to turn on to check error code..then the fan like blowing damn noisy even noisy than my extenal fan. sweat.gif

after 20min off ripping off the cover and heatsink i saw they have solder some point near the cpu and powercord. blink.gif when i cleaning the gpu i saw some glue? or something ? on the mobo near the gpu. blink.gif wow what kind of fix is this??!!

bro tot31 or virgil may know, right? tongue.gif pls advice... biggrin.gif notworthy.gif

djinn, sorry just now called u and ask some confusing question tongue.gif my streamyx account is stuck just now. doh.gif

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have u done 12v fan modd + air duct tunnel by rbjtech?? if not yet, do that...it will bring a lot of difference....x-clamp only improve heat transfer from cpu to heatsink...
without proper air ventilation, sooner or later will get 3rod again.

i've done mine today....the result is unbelieveble.....before modd i measure the temperature at the lower case directly under gpu,
it was 46 celcius...after modded 29 celcius...hard to believe. but maybe it was due to the room temperature, i set my room a-cond(in office)
to the max and the temperature sensor i used read 19 degree celcius.





QUOTE(grandhiz @ Sep 12 2007, 05:30 PM)
need dr.virgils help...

mine every week kena 3rod..then every week have to tighten and loosen the screw...

is there anything else to do..

haih
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post Sep 13 2007, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(wunan @ Sep 12 2007, 10:09 PM)
have u done 12v fan modd + air duct tunnel by rbjtech?? if not yet, do that...it will bring a lot of difference....x-clamp only improve heat transfer from cpu to heatsink...
without proper air ventilation, sooner or later will get 3rod again.

  i've done mine today....the result is unbelieveble.....before modd i measure the temperature at the lower case directly under gpu,
it was 46 celcius...after modded 29 celcius...hard to believe. but maybe it was due to the room temperature, i set my room a-cond(in office)
to the max and the temperature sensor i used read 19 degree celcius.
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of course by doing the 12v bypass and air duct will confirm bring down heat.

but I scare "some " unit need heats then cold air~ laugh.gif

I got one machine very funny syptom ... must be at precise 30 celcius or so ... too hot~ 2 red... too cold... 3 ring.. laugh.gif apap la.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Sep 13 2007, 02:54 PM)
of course by doing the 12v bypass and air duct will confirm bring down heat.

but I scare "some " unit need heats then cold air~ laugh.gif

I got one machine very funny syptom ... must be at precise 30 celcius or so ... too hot~ 2 red... too cold... 3 ring.. laugh.gif apap la.... doh.gif
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but in the end.. I think it could be a cold joint somewhere around my GPU... hmm.gif

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post Sep 13 2007, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Sep 13 2007, 02:55 PM)
but in the end.. I think it could be a cold joint somewhere around my GPU... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tailgunner @ Sep 13 2007, 10:40 PM)
i liked to lern the 12 bypass mod... teach me teach me tongue.gif
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you want the non soldering or soldering want ? laugh.gif

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