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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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post May 12 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(KruteX @ May 12 2014, 08:15 PM)
YEah 2 falling sword seem like powerful.. but actually it is not. Lol. But maybe nice for transmog..

Im getting pissed with the drop rate of item and sometime drop but stat sucks. Now i think its time to do "the move"
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same prob here... Blizzard's server seems can read our mind through our monitor. The very item you hope for won't drop...

Can teach us more about "the move"?
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post May 13 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(stevie @ May 13 2014, 12:59 PM)
Huge nerf to AC incoming according to datamined patch @ diablofans

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do you means This Page ?

Sorry what's AC, I see only buff for curzz...
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post May 13 2014, 01:10 PM

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See my current falcon, got it from Kadala, kinda unhappy with the base damage:

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Somemore it's fire damage, not holy sad.gif

My next target is hunt for jekang, then another better falcon.

p/s: Currently doing 2.5-3.8 mil crit to mob in T3.

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post May 13 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(stevie @ May 13 2014, 01:12 PM)
Rally : Each time you deal damage, there is up to a 50% chance to reduce the cooldown of your skills by 1 second. / Does not affectUsing Akarat's Champion reduces the remaining cooldown of your other abilities by 12 seconds.
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oooooh ok. Me only have 1 piece of Akkhan armor, so never use akarat champion b4... tongue.gif
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post May 14 2014, 10:11 AM

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wow... after the patch my WIP Falcon crusader 'suddenly' became a 700k dps dude :yay:

Anyway I see the shattering throw bounce dmg had been nerfed a lot, but it's still quite alright since I can crit 5-6m to first target, around 1.5 mil to other targets. Still quite ok to survive in T2 solo, or T3 group.
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post May 14 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 10:16 AM)
no longer T6 viable. Sheet dps is crap and a lie
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I knew lar, that's why I keep boosting atk speed (needed for BS build) and holy damage. And I think sheet dps still can serve as reference, but of course not something to be proud with.

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post May 14 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 10:46 AM)
well maybe combust is good. now tryng to stack up on +Fire gear
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u know what... I just swtiched from fire build to holy build doh.gif (am wearing cindercoat now)

so... reroll all holy dmg back to fire? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif But the damage is slightly lower than shattering throw, and I need the healing from holy damage. hmm.gif (Holy Cause passive) I sacrificed a lot of my Vit for Crit hit chance and +% Holy dmg.
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post May 14 2014, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ May 14 2014, 11:38 AM)
If you are still going to use BS, then shattering throw is still arguably the better rune.

Combust can only bounce 1 target and cannot bounce back, it only has a chance to cause more damage.

Let's say there is 4-5 mobs, combust clears is faster.

10+ mobs? Shattering throw still uncontested.

Full set akkhan's defeats the purpose of Gyrfalcon's as well. I tried a 0 builder BS build with Akkhan's and it's basically a 2handed Gyrfalcon's.

I'd stick to holy if I were you. No matter how viable Fire build is now, I still think holy wins hands down.
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hm... issit because Akkhan set give no bonus/ help to BS build?

My cindercoat still there and still looking for a chest which can help my BS build sad.gif
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post May 14 2014, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(KruteX @ May 14 2014, 12:20 PM)
Hehe my initial damage to normal mob is 10m (crit) and bounce damage about 4m. To elite. The initial damage is 20m. Gg smile.gif
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u must have a much better weapon then? I wonder why the Falcon flail I got got very low weapon dmg. (19XX base dmg)
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post May 14 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 01:15 PM)
Is it necessary for weapons to have holy damage? Since the new passive "holy cause" now does not need the wep to be holy dmg to enjoy that 10% dmg buff... And I've done some searching that ... Whatever elemental dmg on your wep will be converted to the type of elemental your skill is... I hope I've made the right choice enchanting the Vit on my gyrfalcon to attack speed rather than arcane dmg to holy... It came with a natural socket...

Any ideas??
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tot you re-rolled for the atkspd edi?

Anyway do not touch the base damage, if you reroll it to something else u'll see the base damage all gone.

Anyway nice falcon you had there, how I wish I can get a better one...

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post May 14 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ May 14 2014, 01:33 PM)
No, I was saying, with full Akkhan's you don't even need Gyr's because your wrath regen faster than you spend as long as AC is active. And still benefit from passives like wrathful too.

Only thing gyr's still has is prolly ASPD and a bit more CD (with fervor). But with movement speed reduction reduced, and AC reworked (much better wrath regen), I cannot see 1hander contesting 2hander at all.
No worries. Holy cause buffs all dmg now. I rerolled my fotf to holy dmg but after patch last night the first thing I do is try to get higher dmg, disregarding what element I get.
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haha ok, unfortunately, getting full set of akkhan is a big challenge... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 01:38 PM)
Thanks bro... Yes... I rerolled the 700ish Vit to 7% attk speed... And just did summore research about elemental damage on weapons... It used to be important because alot of skills did not mention elemental type... So the skill will be purely based on the wep's elemental dmg... But now it's different... Anyways...  Anyone may look into this thread for more info : http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12412661361

Posted not long ago...
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Read the post you linked, so the damage is depends on your skill, no more weapon.

In this case I shall go bang my head against wall till dead. Reason:

I got another falcon not too long after the first one, 2.2k base damage but POISON type. I salvaged it because I though poison will not help and my +% holy dmg will not help.

*bang bang bang*
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post May 14 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 01:48 PM)
Don't worry ! 2hd seems to be the direction now... I / we prolly have given up 100k-150k dps just to use 1hd flails... And since now heavenly strength does not reduce your MS by 15% and the nerf to blessed shield shattering throw.. It is worth to consider going back to 2hd.... Now all I need is a FateOfFell ! lol

back to square 1
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really... but I still think the +15% increase speed is comparable... but since I got BOP, I might as well give it a try. (But I have only 1 piece of Akkhan set...)

Anyway I got Golden Flence yesterday... don't think I will use it.
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post May 14 2014, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ May 14 2014, 03:04 PM)
As predicted they have nerf the blessed shield,😅😨 well kinda.

I do not understand the nerf on BOP+Condemn skills before and fare the patch ? Can anyone kindly explain?

Shotgun is seems more viable now, but it work wonder if we got FotF.

Nerf in Judgement - Resolved does blew off those Crusader with CDR build (which I'm using it)
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Not a bad nerfed as you hoping for, still very strong consider the buff on initial hit. I still crit 5-6 mil on first hit, 1+ mil on shattering dmg.

What blizzard do is buff up other skills so players has more choices to go.
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post May 14 2014, 06:11 PM

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woo hoo just now tried run bounties in T2, clear all 5 bounties under 15 minutes... yes using shattering throw.

Tonight will tried using BS without any rune and see how. (or may be piercing shield)

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post May 14 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 06:22 PM)
without rune, all your bounces including from jekang will get dmg bonuses form blockchance and 20% bonus from Towering shield. With shattering throw only 1 of your throw the 1st one will get bonus the rest is 170% constant.
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Thanks Bush, OOPS I means Frostlance Bro, gotta spend all my BS for Jekang and then run naked blessed shield~~~

B4 that, lemme try if piercing shield will do. (Since it still go through multiple targets)

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post May 15 2014, 12:56 AM

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Ok tried BS for 10 minutes before maintenance start:

No Rune:
- Strongest at the moment, great at melting down large number of mob. Work best with Jekang. (Even better THAN shattering throw!)

Piercing Shield:
- Noticeable lower dps for unknown reason. My crit was like 1 mil less when using this rune.
- Direct attack, need to aim, and need to find where the mob crowd for best effect.
- Knock back proc rate are high on white mob, sometime can keep certain tougher white mob in the air. (like executioner) However noticeable lower proc rate on elite.

I still don't have jekang, not sure how shattering throw perform if with jekang. In case it still perform high crit on first hit when paired with Jekang, I'll say shattering throw is completely worthless now.

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Big typo

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post May 15 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ May 15 2014, 01:46 AM)
Not a bug.

1. Original BS only bounces on 1 target and will not bounce back.

2. Shattering throw does not have the bounce but rather, is split into 3 BUT has the tendency to bounce back.
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yah I notice shattering throw will bounce back and hit the same target more than twice. But after the nerf, even it hit back the same target 3 times still can't make up the same dps sad.gif

Take myself for example, initial hit crit 6mil, the rest hit 1.2mil... bounce back also not powerful enough sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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post May 15 2014, 10:33 AM

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I see that's a big time improvement for whoever using Slash, hee hee that's my previous build brows.gif
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post May 15 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 15 2014, 11:58 AM)
thus im going the Fire Crusader Combust BS way.. now to change all Holy gear to fire  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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But wont get the healing bonus from Holy Cause :S

Aiks spent so much material for holy % dmg. Good that I still keep my Cindercoat.

Also I notice the overall DMG for combust is lower than naked BS? (320% vs 430%)

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