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Gasy
post Aug 15 2006, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Snake'eyes @ Aug 15 2006, 01:49 PM)
Jiraiya is not strong too, if u compare with the other 2 Sanin he is the weakest among the 3 but compare to shinobi nowdays he is one of the stongest...Jounin's getting weaker by years pass ever since peace restore..=_=

so my POV u compare Brains and Jutsus Naruto's not even one of the TOp 10 list but he his GUTS and Determination that Sasuke doesnt have...
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Sorry but Jiraya is very strong. Maybe stronger than the 2 other. Remember how Itachi and kisame didn't dare to face him and Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru. And don't forget that Jiraya was the teacher of the best ninja of all time: Yondaime
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post Aug 15 2006, 04:06 PM

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Yeah Jiraiya is pretty strong. I still remember that part Gasy smile.gif.

Btw, Naruto's chakra could be unique since its to specifically counter the Kyuubi's chakra but you still can't deny that at this stage, Naruto has more chakra storage than the other characters his lvl (even surpassing kakashi). Not anyone can do tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu easily as Naruto.
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post Aug 15 2006, 04:11 PM

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IMO, out of those 3 sannin, Orochimaru is the strongest. Inmortality is the main reason I think so. but then again, there is no solid "battle" between them that comfirm this

Jiraiya maybe can defeat Itachi, and Itachi could defeat Orochimaru, its doesnt mean that Jiraiya is stronger then Orochimaru.

Example :

Orochimaru > Jiraiya
Tsunade > Orochimaru
Jiraiya > Tsunade

etc etc.
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post Aug 15 2006, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Koross @ Aug 15 2006, 04:06 PM)
Yeah Jiraiya is pretty strong. I still remember that part Gasy smile.gif.

Btw, Naruto's chakra could be unique since its to specifically counter the Kyuubi's chakra but you still can't deny that at this stage, Naruto has more chakra storage than the other characters his lvl (even surpassing kakashi). Not anyone can do tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu easily as Naruto.
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There is one people which posses a chakra more the Naruto. Kisame.
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post Aug 15 2006, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gxen @ Aug 15 2006, 04:11 PM)
IMO, out of those 3 sannin, Orochimaru is the strongest. Inmortality is the main reason I think so. but then again, there is no solid "battle" between them that comfirm this

Jiraiya maybe can defeat Itachi, and Itachi could defeat Orochimaru, its doesnt mean that Jiraiya is stronger then Orochimaru.

Example :

Orochimaru > Jiraiya
Tsunade > Orochimaru
Jiraiya > Tsunade

etc etc.
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i'm supporting this statement. if you did read the internet, those 3 Sanin's summoned animals and their names are equivalent to Snake, Toad and Snail.
While the Snake eats the Toad, the Snake will never be able to catch the Snail.
something like rock paper scissors.

and i think in this Naruto series.. the strongest would be Itachi. cuz he would most probably be the final boss.... that is.. if naruto will ever end.... but Orochimaru might find some crazy illogical ninja jutsu that makes him better than Itachi, but that will probably lead to Itachi being on Naruto's side for them to end it. but i'm putting my bet on Itachi being the last boss to make the story more interesting.
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post Aug 15 2006, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gxen @ Aug 15 2006, 04:11 PM)
IMO, out of those 3 sannin, Orochimaru is the strongest. Inmortality is the main reason I think so. but then again, there is no solid "battle" between them that comfirm this

Jiraiya maybe can defeat Itachi, and Itachi could defeat Orochimaru, its doesnt mean that Jiraiya is stronger then Orochimaru.

Example :

Orochimaru > Jiraiya
Tsunade > Orochimaru
Jiraiya > Tsunade

etc etc.
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ya that's what I think of when I siad Jiraya isnt that strong becoz if Itachi can beat Orochimaru, why cant he beat Jiraiya too?

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Sorry but Jiraya is very strong. Maybe stronger than the 2 other. Remember how Itachi and kisame didn't dare to face him and Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru. And don't forget that Jiraya was the teacher of the best ninja of all time: Yondaime

reason why Itachi and Kisame retreat is coz not they are afraid of Jiraya but coz due to unexpected situation from Jiraye's presence it would be difficult to capture Naruto while encouter Jiraya plus maybe they are not sure what abilities a Sanin posses and could be difficult to handle Jiraya alone without knowing his abilities.

I think Jiraya's Fire element's Jutsu are very Powerfull that's why its like taking a risk to kidnapped a kid from the Sun. U might burn urself to get what u want.

plus there are other reasons too like its the Sanin who taught Yondaime since Yondaime's name its quite popular within the shinobi world.
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and i think in this Naruto series.. the strongest would be Itachi. cuz he would most probably be the final boss.... that is.. if naruto will ever end.... but Orochimaru might find some crazy illogical ninja jutsu that makes him better than Itachi, but that will probably lead to Itachi being on Naruto's side for them to end it. but i'm putting my bet on Itachi being the last boss to make the story more interesting.

nah for now I think the stongest guy is he who can persude itachi into Akatsuki team and handle Itachi as his pawn now is probarly Akatsuki's Captain. since before I thought it was Itachi but nah Itachi still has his weakness despite how powerfull he is ...Sasuke haha tongue.gif

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post Aug 15 2006, 06:18 PM

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based on rumors the leader of akatsuki is yodaime himself...
the 4th hokage...
the shadow looks alot like him too...
and only he can beat itachi in my view...that's y itachi is udner him....
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post Aug 15 2006, 06:42 PM

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there's a lot of fake rumors flying around and I woulndt give a damn about it since none of any rumors I heard from naruto came true since chapter 1 till now execpt the Sanin rumor...heard it when first appearence of orchimaru...

but the best rumor i heard was fake was Kakashi's Sharigan eye...bunch of narutards keep debating that the one who gave Kakashi's sharigan eye was a girl and Kakashi's gf stuff like that.... sweat.gif

another fake Rumor about Itachi saying Itachi was the chosen heir of his clan and in oder to keep the clan safe, He must eliminate his brother Sasuke by order of thier very own DAD.... whistling.gif therefore Itachi refuses to kill his beloved brother Sasuke who was going to be hunt down by his very own Uchiha clan and Itachi wipe out the entire clan to keep his brother Sasuke safe.... what a load of crap.... rclxub.gif

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post Aug 15 2006, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Koross @ Aug 15 2006, 04:06 PM)
Yeah Jiraiya is pretty strong. I still remember that part Gasy smile.gif.

Btw, Naruto's chakra could be unique since its to specifically counter the Kyuubi's chakra but you still can't deny that at this stage, Naruto has more chakra storage than the other characters his lvl (even surpassing kakashi). Not anyone can do tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu easily as Naruto.
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part of the reason he has a huge amount of chakra is because of the kyuubi and its influence on him. he doesn't need to activate his "super saiyan" mode to be able to use the kyuubi's chakra. but when he goes into that mode he'll have almost limitless chakra thanks to the kyuubi.

no Naruto's isn't as strong/stronger than the kyuubi. if he was, he'd have decimated everything around him. remember when the kyuubi attacked konoha, the whole village fought against it unsuccessfully. yondaime (who is the strongest person in konoha) was only able to seal the kyuubi, not destroy it. thats how powerful the kyuubi is. its a chakra based demon.
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Naruto alone have atleast twice as much chakra then Kakashi. If captain yamamoto didnt control the kyubi's chakra, it will be 100fold more.

Kakashi got his eye from his old teamate, which he was a Uchiha person.
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post Aug 15 2006, 10:35 PM

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uchiha obito

and when sasuke invaded naruto's mind when kyuubi about to go out (dun remember what ep but its when they're fighting with yamato n sai in orochimaru's base)

kyuubi mention something like sasuke's sharingan is somewhat the same like some uchiha named uchiha mandara

any1 knows em?
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post Aug 15 2006, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(gaijin_otoko @ Aug 15 2006, 10:35 PM)
uchiha obito

and when sasuke invaded naruto's mind when kyuubi about to go out (dun remember what ep but its when they're fighting with yamato n sai in orochimaru's base)

kyuubi mention something like sasuke's sharingan is somewhat the same like some uchiha named uchiha mandara

any1 knows em?
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his father?
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post Aug 16 2006, 12:38 AM

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Might be the leader of Akatsuki...
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post Aug 16 2006, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Gxen @ Aug 16 2006, 12:38 AM)
Might be the leader of Akatsuki...
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i oso think like that... rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 16 2006, 09:47 AM

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leader of akatsuki...yeah

dont like the 'yondaime leader of akatsuki' rumor though

i dont think its his father


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post Aug 16 2006, 10:20 AM

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actually... the leader of akatsuki is Gary from Palate rclxs0.gif
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post Aug 16 2006, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Aug 14 2006, 02:08 AM)
I still think it's going to be transforming the rasengan into a Kame Hame Ha

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The Kyuubi's chakra does damagae Naruto's body too. That's why Jiraiya has already warned that Naruto will have an unnaturally short life if he continues using the Kyuubi's chakra like that.
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and next level will become boyougen!! (correct my spelling if necessary) thumbup.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(gaijin_otoko @ Aug 14 2006, 11:51 PM)
if only naruto's rasengan is heat-seeking...

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no needlah, just make it radio controlled. better still, learn jutsu to call upon a battalion of army! complete with F-16 and tanks! tongue.gif opponent dies in shock and fear... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Koross @ Aug 15 2006, 04:48 AM)
Naruto can withstand the Kyuubi's chakra simply because he is as strong or stronger than the Kyuubi that is imprisoned in him. If you read the manga later, Captain Yamato even said that. In order to imprison the Kyuubi, an opposite chakra has to be as strong or stronger to properly imprison it. So in essence, Naruto is pretty strong. He just lacks the brains and techniques.
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i think naruto has a lot of chakra, strong internally, can learn fast but he's not so quick in the mind. don't think he's really stupid, he just doesn't like to use his brain most of the time.

QUOTE(Gxen @ Aug 15 2006, 04:11 PM)
IMO, out of those 3 sannin, Orochimaru is the strongest. Inmortality is the main reason I think so. but then again, there is no solid "battle" between them that comfirm this

Jiraiya maybe can defeat Itachi, and Itachi could defeat Orochimaru, its doesnt mean that Jiraiya is stronger then Orochimaru.

Example :

Orochimaru > Jiraiya
Tsunade > Orochimaru
Jiraiya > Tsunade

etc etc.
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even battle also cannot determine winner sometimes. as you know, the weaker opponent will find a way to counter the stronger opponent's best move, shield his weakness, fight in place that gives him advantage etc.
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QUOTE(gaijin_otoko @ Aug 15 2006, 10:35 PM)
uchiha obito

and when sasuke invaded naruto's mind when kyuubi about to go out (dun remember what ep but its when they're fighting with yamato n sai in orochimaru's base)

kyuubi mention something like sasuke's sharingan is somewhat the same like some uchiha named uchiha mandara

any1 knows em?
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i know. he's some random dude from Uchiha clan!!111oneone11!

QUOTE(eXyzt @ Aug 16 2006, 04:45 PM)

even battle also cannot determine winner sometimes. as you know, the weaker opponent will find a way to counter the stronger opponent's best move, shield his weakness, fight in place that gives him advantage etc.
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well put.
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post Aug 17 2006, 04:17 PM

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dun think mandara is some random dude lolz

kyuubi said that his chakra is evil so he must has his name somewhere inside

the bingo book

evil ppl always get credit for what they do...popularity it seems tongue.gif
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naruto himself without the nine tails have loads of cakra...
rememeber he mass clone against garaa?
the cakra is blue (naruto's not the fox)

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