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Bursa Trader V4
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 Apr 3 2014, 09:31 AM
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Apr 3 2014, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:27 AM) Good morning.. LOL! LOL! LOL!I think see ahboon here says it all... nothing interesting in the market to fish... You trying to fish something of me? The market is pretty much lively. There's plenty of opportunity around. It depends on what type of fisherman you are. Some every day want to fish.... Some every week want to fish... Some every month want to fish.... Some just wait.....  |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 3 2014, 09:31 AM) this inari really no logic la. its intrinsic value got so high or not? Inari EPS is looking good which is why it was flying. Strange though because I read an article about tightening margin but they still reported better profit. |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 3 2014, 09:29 AM) i think he got play abit of 'punter and trader style' although he is mainly a investor, right?  I am not a gal .... I no wear mini skirt..... See me for what?  Market more interesting la....  |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 3 2014, 09:31 AM) this inari really no logic la. its intrinsic value got so high or not? I told hehe86 before.  You need to know fundamentals. If not you are trading/punting/speculating blindly. You need to know some numbers la. Some of the really best traders around... They know their fundamentals well... They know WHY a stock moves... and WHY it doesn't.....  |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 06:26 AM) Know your fundamentals well and when you do, you know what type of chicken can be chased and what can't. Sounds interesting  Make less than to lose a lot more .... sounds good and conservative .... but it never really works out in the market. Take 10 trades. Try this simple chincai count... Lose more than win.  You lose 6 times. Win 4 time. Sounds sure lose? Not necessary. If you keep your losses small... 5% or so.... assuming each bet is 10 dollars... 5% = 5 sen. 6 losses = 30 sen. now if you keep your winnings bigger than losses... maybe 20%.... each win... will see you make 20 sen. 4 wins = 80 sen. Tada... 80 sen - 30 sen = 50 sen profit. Play around with different scenarios... whatever you choose... winning % must be more than losing %. Conclusion: When you win, you must win BIG. win small.... you can win 70%... but if every win is 5%... all it takes is a couple of big losses (20%) to wipe out all your winnings.................  Might try that out when my paycheck comes in |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:46 AM
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Wah lau... EPF tanking Tenaga...
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Apr 3 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 3 2014, 09:42 AM) Sounds interesting Might try that out when my paycheck comes in One of surest way to win money is to trade LESS!!!!! It's so simple. BUY la.. INVEST la... TRADE la... PUNT la... BET la... GAMBLE la... whatever you want t calll it.... buy only when you are very sure of winning BIG ...... stay away from those Mickey Mouse trades la..... those 5% win trades... those nonsense KFC trades ...... stay away from those trades la.... Why bet thousand of dollars to win KFC ? Can bet thousands but cannot spend money on KFC? Got logic meh? |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:47 AM) One of surest way to win money is to trade LESS!!!!! It's so simple. BUY la.. INVEST la... TRADE la... PUNT la... BET la... GAMBLE la... whatever you want t calll it.... buy only when you are very sure of winning BIG ...... stay away from those Mickey Mouse trades la..... those 5% win trades... those nonsense KFC trades ...... stay away from those trades la.... Why bet thousand of dollars to win KFC ? Can bet thousands but cannot spend money on KFC? Got logic meh? |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:36 AM) Inari EPS is looking good which is why it was flying. Strange though because I read an article about tightening margin but they still reported better profit. QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:39 AM) I told hehe86 before. the way i see it is that inari really no sellers but insas many are waiting to dumpYou need to know fundamentals. If not you are trading/punting/speculating blindly. You need to know some numbers la. Some of the really best traders around... They know their fundamentals well... They know WHY a stock moves... and WHY it doesn't..... |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:47 AM) One of surest way to win money is to trade LESS!!!!! It's so simple. BUY la.. INVEST la... TRADE la... PUNT la... BET la... GAMBLE la... whatever you want t calll it.... buy only when you are very sure of winning BIG ...... stay away from those Mickey Mouse trades la..... those 5% win trades... those nonsense KFC trades ...... stay away from those trades la.... Why bet thousand of dollars to win KFC ? Can bet thousands but cannot spend money on KFC? Got logic meh?  |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 3 2014, 09:49 AM) Well, problem is, I cannot be VERY SURE of anything This problem difficult to solve meh?See when you go into the market... you are going to WAR ... correct? |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:51 AM) This problem difficult to solve meh? Right, I agree See when you go into the market... you are going to WAR ... correct?  |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 3 2014, 09:52 AM) Right, I agree  How do you fight a war? You need your army... You need your ammo... In stock market terms you need to have MONEY.... *** Where does people go wrong? They go to market... They hope to build their war chest ! This is terbalik thinking right? the stock market is not an ATM machine.... *** When you have your army... and your amno.... What do you need to do? You need to train them to fight the battles... How do you fight the battles? You need to learn. you need to learn your TA... you need to learn your FA.... There is no short cut. Some people think they can win the stock market by the piggy back method. They win by following tips! Can you fight a battle like this?  |
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Apr 3 2014, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 08:33 AM) So yesterday the chart of Gayety. Also they buy <5% for what? It is all immaterial.. they are basically stripping the company and mving asets elsewhere...  Today's papers: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...y-buy-to-Bursa/ Why no say EPS how much? According to Bloomberg, Gayety ttm EPS is 0.0075 EPS. LOL! http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/8179:HK TTM PER based on 37 sen is 49.3333!!!!! MEGB buys stake in it for 40 sen! KNS! Damn water fish!!!! Malaysia stock exchange flowing out so much cashie that it can afford to let these bloody Chinaman to come and gasak the money away meh????? Mati la! |
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Apr 3 2014, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 3 2014, 09:31 AM) this inari really no logic la. its intrinsic value got so high or not? Actually got woh... if you see the financials.. This is not goreng biasa, this is goreng berempah fundamentals.. |
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Apr 3 2014, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:36 AM) Inari EPS is looking good which is why it was flying. Strange though because I read an article about tightening margin but they still reported better profit. Lower margin.. but revenue increase more than reducing margin (due to amerton) = more profit. But I got gut feeling the play going to be coming to an end soon depending on the next Q report, so dont jump in now. |
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Apr 3 2014, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 09:59 AM) Also they buy <5% for what? It is all immaterial.. they are basically stripping the company and mving asets elsewhere... Exactly!If you look at MEGB... although there are loans ... but there is outright money.... 43 million I think.... Right now, this stupiakkkkk dim sum deal... will chiak 20 million away....! then they can sell mpre campus/land away... and then .... think of another corporate exercise .... and chiak away for money!!!! 20 million deal at a pe more than 50x.... just to be a minority shareholder! KNS!!! Malaysia money so easy to telan meh.....  |
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Apr 3 2014, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:02 AM) Lower margin.. but revenue increase more than reducing margin (due to amerton) = more profit. Totally agree.... But I got gut feeling the play going to be coming to an end soon depending on the next Q report, so dont jump in now. Ah Gark itching to sell jor...... heeeehehe |
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Apr 3 2014, 10:04 AM
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12,534 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Penang, KL, China, Indonesia....
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:47 AM) buy only when you are very sure of winning BIG ...... stay away from those Mickey Mouse trades la..... those 5% win trades... those nonsense KFC trades ...... stay away from those trades la.... Why bet thousand of dollars to win KFC ? Can bet thousands but cannot spend money on KFC? Got logic meh? |
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