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jonchai
post Apr 3 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:58 AM)
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How do you fight a war?

You need your army...
You need your ammo...

In stock market terms you need to have MONEY....
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Where does people go wrong?
They go to market...
They hope to build their war chest !

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This is terbalik thinking right?

the stock market is not an ATM machine....
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When you have your army...
and your amno....

What do you need to do?

You need to train them to fight the battles...

How do you fight the battles?

You need to learn.
you need to learn your TA...
you need to learn your FA....

There is no short cut.

Some people think  they can win the stock market by the piggy back method.
They win by following tips!

Can you fight a battle like this?

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Still learning and learning brows.gif

Grateful to have people like you and gark, willing to share thumbup.gif

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:04 AM)
So Ah Boon.. will not trade for KFC but will trade for abalone dinner yah?  whistling.gif
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Maybe fresh sushi on a beautiful naked japanese girl laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:06 AM

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homeriz lag behind latitude again...I guess popularity problem?
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:07 AM

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:04 AM)
So Ah Boon.. will not trade for KFC but will trade for abalone dinner yah?  whistling.gif
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If no chance to fight for at least a 50% win margin, fight for what? rolleyes.gif

Target must be at least 50% lor....
But sometimes cannot get one...
So cannot be kayu...
and die die no sell just cause want to get 50%.....
if have to settle for 30%....
must settle lor.... tongue.gif
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 3 2014, 09:49 AM)
Well, problem is, I cannot be VERY SURE of anything   laugh.gif
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In investment you cannot be sure one, sometimes trades you are very confident with goes the other way due to many reasons... but like any bet we try to put the odds in our favor.

You must have conviction on why you go into the trade in the first place. Conviction can be news, calculations, research, financial, technical analysis, whatever float your boat to ensure that FUTURE earning will be much much higher than now. If you cannot get a number or you dont know how much the earning is expected to go up, you have NO conviction and firing blind.

Just make sure your conviction on potential gain is big enough, and the numbers you calculated backs you up, and the price you buy is reasonable, sooner or later the market will recognize the potential.

With good REASON to buy, SUBSTANTIAL potential gains, and at RIGHT price, your trades are more or less in your favor, just a matter of TIME only... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:07 AM)
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I like how they announce it...

EPS 0.83cents but increase 2704%... Yes, 2704%
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:08 AM)
In investment you cannot be sure one, sometimes trades you are very confident with goes the other way due to many reasons... but like any bet we try to put the odds in our favor.

You must have conviction on why you go into the trade in the first place. Conviction can be news, calculations, research, financial, technical analysis, whatever float your boat to ensure that FUTURE earning will be much much higher than now. If you cannot get a number or you dont know how much the earning is expected to go up, you have NO conviction and firing blind.

Just make sure your conviction on potential gain is big enough, and the numbers you calculated backs you up, and the price you buy is reasonable, sooner or later the market will recognize the potential.

With good REASON to buy, SUBSTANTIAL potential gains, and at RIGHT price, your trades are more or less in your favor, just a matter of TIME only...  laugh.gif
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Apr 3 2014, 10:11 AM)
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Fast hand fast leg know how to do la.....

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Sometimes some needs to draw picture out of wall one. tongue.gif
Go mountain....
Climb mountain....
Look for Gark....
Then pour tea.......

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:08 AM)
In investment you cannot be sure one, sometimes trades you are very confident with goes the other way due to many reasons... but like any bet we try to put the odds in our favor.

You must have conviction on why you go into the trade in the first place. Conviction can be news, calculations, research, financial, technical analysis, whatever float your boat to ensure that FUTURE earning will be much much higher than now. If you cannot get a number or you dont know how much the earning is expected to go up, you have NO conviction and firing blind.

Just make sure your conviction on potential gain is big enough, and the numbers you calculated backs you up, and the price you buy is reasonable, sooner or later the market will recognize the potential.

With good REASON to buy, SUBSTANTIAL potential gains, and at RIGHT price, your trades are more or less in your favor, just a matter of TIME only...  laugh.gif
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Yup... those good fundamental stocks always have a trading range. You wont lose until pokai one.

Its those goreng without fundamental that will kill you.

No pain no gain...

No risk no profit...


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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 3 2014, 10:06 AM)
homeriz lag behind latitude again...I guess popularity problem?
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:19 AM)
Fast hand fast leg know how to do la.....

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Sometimes some needs to draw picture out of wall one. tongue.gif
Go mountain....
Climb mountain....
Look for Gark....
Then pour tea.......

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Then climb even higher ...
Look for boon3 ....
Then pour kopi...

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:19 AM)
Yup... those good fundamental stocks always have a trading range. You wont lose until pokai one.

Its those goreng without fundamental that will kill you.

No pain no gain...

No risk no profit...
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Then again hor.. i never touch those goreng without fundamanetals one...

No guts, also i cannot see the future profit...

why take risk with no good odds on your side? tongue.gif

Maybe other people's cup of tea...
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someone mentioned homeritz?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:19 AM)
Fast hand fast leg know how to do la.....

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Sometimes some needs to draw picture out of wall one. tongue.gif
Go mountain....
Climb mountain....
Look for Gark....
Then pour tea.......

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:24 AM)
someone mentioned homeritz?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:19 AM)
Yup... those good fundamental stocks always have a trading range. You wont lose until pokai one.

Its those goreng without fundamental that will kill you.

No pain no gain...

No risk no profit...
Fundamental stock bought at the wrong time and at the wrong price also can die one!



Many years ago...
Tech stocks or seminconductor stocks very geng.

MPI was the star.
Hong Leong group wor....

Don't play laughter hor....

At the peak MPI was close to 60 ringgit leh....

Balance sheet sui sui sui...
growth sui sui sui...
Owner sui sui sui...
Coverage sui sui sui....

Everything also sui.....

Then semiconductor sector die....

MPI today how much?



Recent one?

Carlsberg.
Recent high how much?
Today how much?

Conclusion?
Even got fundamental, you cannot simply buy one!!!

Datasonic now also got fundamental what.
business good what...
but the share price today.... rolleyes.gif
try buy and hold Datasonic now....
see can win or not.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:21 AM)
Then climb even higher ...
Look for boon3 ....
Then pour kopi...

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 10:21 AM)
Then climb even higher ...
Look for boon3 ....
Then pour kopi...

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LOL!

Nothing original.
Follow what I post one.

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 3 2014, 10:27 AM)


Nothing original.
Follow what I post one.

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'Kopi' you mah... tongue.gif

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