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djhenry91
post Apr 29 2014, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(dps404 @ Apr 29 2014, 01:07 AM)
people who did tactical pause should rot with pudge!
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normal la..
but mine different abit..is one my of teammate dc and hard to recon.
so we pause the game since abit long opponent got one player keep unpause..
so end up we gv up to wait him become 4v5
during 20 minit tht guy keep recon and dc again..we not even care and cont ply..
end up we win the game lol..no tanker in my team sweat.gif

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post Apr 29 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 29 2014, 08:45 AM)
normal la..
but mine different abit..is one my of teammate dc and hard to recon.
so we pause the game since abit long opponent got one player keep unpause..
so end up we gv up to wait him become 4v5
during 20 minit tht guy keep recon and dc again..we not even care and cont ply..
end up we win the game lol..no tanker in my team  sweat.gif
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If the opponent kept unpause without even waiting for at least 5-10 mins then Ill rage. If pass that time and your friend cant even get on then i think its not fair to keep pause and ask your opponent to wait for him to reconnect.

Ill do the same thing for my opponent as well.
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:51 AM

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post Apr 29 2014, 10:16 AM

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this morning wake up early due to medicine i took , so play 1 round and the game 1 side down in early because necro + radiance BS (below 30 minutes mark) and invoker mana burn really PITA to play with.

but keep dragging and they keep make mistake in team and we got come back and won tongue.gif

dang....
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Apr 29 2014, 09:50 AM)
If the opponent kept unpause without even waiting for at least 5-10 mins then Ill rage. If pass that time and your friend cant even get on then i think its not fair to keep pause and ask your opponent to wait for him to reconnect. 

Ill do the same thing for my opponent as well.
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i already report tht guy i not sure my teammate la..but my teammate ask opponent report tht leaver eventhough we win...i use jakiro only can help them ice path and damage them only
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM

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What some guys do not KNOW is that MMR is still a flawed system? I think I blasted some crooked forumers with so called 4K MMR and now they're gone!

Lose 10 games still get 4.6K close enough? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 04:21 PM

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Celldweller @ Apr 29 2014, 09:51 AM)
Doll > courier  nod.gif
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Apr 29 2014, 09:50 AM)
If the opponent kept unpause without even waiting for at least 5-10 mins then Ill rage. If pass that time and your friend cant even get on then i think its not fair to keep pause and ask your opponent to wait for him to reconnect. 

Ill do the same thing for my opponent as well.
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Usually, the unwritten rule or guideline is no pausing in middle of fights.
Its just poor taste and lots of split decision making can be made, even if someone dc-ed.

Just pause after the end of the match, despite losing or winning, don't matter.
Its only proper etiquette, but who am I to wish for this in SEA...

Those who keep unpausing when reconnecting should die in a ball of fire.
I know how crappy Steam can be, suddenly crash or dc for no reason.
But recently, most people have been pausing when i or others crash or dc so I think this habit has become common edi, fortunately.
And when I even have to pause for an enemy who dc, while their team is like okay with it... doh.gif

QUOTE(sniperz @ Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM)
http://imgur.com/r/DotA2/cdpelmu

What some guys do not KNOW is that MMR is still a flawed system? I think I blasted some crooked forumers with so called 4K MMR and now they're gone!

Lose 10 games still get 4.6K close enough? biggrin.gif
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If you just got that from another source, please read the reddit comments and discussion there explaining how its possible.
MMR is not that flawed. Has its bad points in providing mean distribution of MMR but otherwise, ranks up the average mean value of points than median.
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Yoshii-kun @ Apr 29 2014, 06:09 PM)

Usually, the unwritten rule or guideline is no pausing in middle of fights.
This is definitely the way to go IMO but unfortunately some teams really do abuse this 'pause for rc' privilege by pausing during team fights, only to turn the table against the initiating team since they are no longer caught off guard and are able to pre-planned their subsequent moves.

It's even more frustrating when your team is on the losing end and had to rely on these hit and run turtle strategy.

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(dps404 @ Apr 29 2014, 06:14 PM)
This is definitely the way to go IMO but unfortunately some teams really do abuse this 'pause for rc' privilege by pausing during team fights, only to turn the table against the initiating team since they are no longer caught off guard and are able to pre-planned their subsequent moves.

It's even more frustrating when your team is on the losing end and had to rely on these hit and run turtle strategy.
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Its just luck and infrastructure in the end.
If you know you have shit ping or connection, why bother connecting and give other users and yourself a bad time...
Better go fap or play that void farming app game if you really wanna smack creeps
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Yoshii-kun @ Apr 29 2014, 06:19 PM)
Its just luck and infrastructure in the end.
If you know you have shit ping or connection, why bother connecting and give other users and yourself a bad time...
Better go fap or play that void farming app game if you really wanna smack creeps
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that's where the abuse part comes in.
since the dc is intentional.
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(dps404 @ Apr 29 2014, 06:25 PM)
that's where the abuse part comes in.
since the dc is intentional.
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lol cant do anything about that.
Pause system is still a system, and humans exist to bend, abuse and ultimately break them.

thats just how the dice rolls laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Yoshii-kun @ Apr 29 2014, 06:38 PM)
lol cant do anything about that.
Pause system is still a system, and humans exist to bend, abuse and ultimately break them.

thats just how the dice rolls  laugh.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Yoshii-kun @ Apr 29 2014, 06:09 PM)
cheers.gif
Usually, the unwritten rule or guideline is no pausing in middle of fights.
Its just poor taste and lots of split decision making can be made, even if someone dc-ed.

Just pause after the end of the match, despite losing or winning, don't matter.
Its only proper etiquette, but who am I to wish for this in SEA...

Those who keep unpausing when reconnecting should die in a ball of fire.
I know how crappy Steam can be, suddenly crash or dc for no reason.
But recently, most people have been pausing when i or others crash or dc so I think this habit has become common edi, fortunately.
And when I even have to pause for an enemy who dc, while their team is like okay with it...  doh.gif
If you just got that from another source, please read the reddit comments and discussion there explaining how its possible.
MMR is not that flawed. Has its bad points in providing mean distribution of MMR but otherwise, ranks up the average mean value of points than median.
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I never condemn the fact since I'm close to 4K MMR and my account trolled a lot of games with Pinoy before MMR was implemented.

I beat a few 5K MMR's with my 4K MMR competitive friends. Just to see that the level is fragile if they don't have tournament experiences. Vice versa.

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See players with 7K MMR? I think they'll still be lack of form in LAN tournaments because? They lack real face-to-face competitive FEELS / AURA.

It ranks but as you see from the photo. It clearly shows there are FLAWS. I don't see many 4K MMR succeed too.

Lots of PINOYS had 4K MMR and they are disrupting the gameplay. You have to understand it is a system but the FLAWS is huge if you blend in SEA players , the regions , demographic and vice versa. The unlucky pros will keep dropping their MMRs.

Trust me. I saw my friend with Party MMR 5K and keep droping until 4.7K and up to 4.9K and again dropping around. Why? When they have no full teams, they gonna play with publics they don't know.

I won't say much since I know our best teams in Malaysia namely Orange or Titan etc. Their MMR is lower than many here. So why the fuss? They won't recruit people who don't have RAW MATERIALS (RAW PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE) is what most high MMR players (4K or 5K) lack.


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post Apr 29 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(sniperz @ Apr 29 2014, 07:04 PM)
I never condemn the fact since I'm close to 4K MMR and my account trolled a lot of games with Pinoy before MMR was implemented.

I beat a few 5K MMR's with my 4K MMR competitive friends. Just to see that the level is fragile if they don't have tournament experiences. Vice versa.

brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

See players with 7K MMR? I think they'll still be lack of form in LAN tournaments because? They lack real face-to-face competitive FEELS / AURA.

It ranks but as you see from the photo. It clearly shows there are FLAWS. I don't see many 4K MMR succeed too.

Lots of PINOYS had 4K MMR and they are disrupting the gameplay. You have to understand it is a system but the FLAWS is huge if you blend in SEA players , the regions , demographic and vice versa. The unlucky pros will keep dropping their MMRs.

Trust me. I saw my friend with Party MMR 5K and keep droping until 4.7K and up to 4.9K and again dropping around. Why? When they have no full teams, they gonna play with publics they don't know.

I won't say much since I know our best teams in Malaysia namely Orange or Titan etc. Their MMR is lower than many here. So why the fuss? They won't recruit people who don't have RAW MATERIALS (RAW PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE) is what most high MMR players (4K or 5K) lack.
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Bro sniperz, you cerita lebat. From my experience lar one 6k player can carry the whole team and those pro (orange,titan,arrow) can change the game flow even paired with bad players.

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QUOTE(Yoshii-kun @ Apr 29 2014, 08:26 PM)
Perasannya. I never talked about you but so fast cerita kat I your life story lol.
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:57 PM

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Tak habis2 tell mmr broken la, mmr 4k beat 5k mmr la. Haihh..
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post Apr 29 2014, 11:00 PM

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tak habis habis dengan mmr pulak..
u tak bosan we all listen till bosan la
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Ok chill guys... Dont need to feed more fire starters...

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